2014-12-27 14:44:41	Shard1	A game with Link and Mario would be cool
2014-12-27 14:44:52	Yoshi2	hmm, you do have a point
2014-12-27 14:45:12	Yoshi2	I can't think of too many Nintendo cross overs
2014-12-27 14:45:37	Yoshi2	though theoretically you could think of Mario & Donkey Kong as a cross over
2014-12-27 14:45:59	Shard1	I mean, wouldn't it be cool to have a 3D action game with RPG elements and a whole bunch of Nintendo characters who team up to beat all of the villains?
2014-12-27 14:47:38	Yoshi2	it would probably be cool, but that sounds very similar to Brawl's story mode
2014-12-27 14:48:02	Shard1	yeah, I know, but this would be no side-scroller
2014-12-27 14:49:26	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Dusk Pustules by Pokepal052 (0 /* Brittany's Notes */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Dusk_Pustules&curid=9668&diff=143734&oldid=141009
2014-12-27 14:49:44	Yoshi2	all the effort they would have to put into making the story good, they could put into making completely new characters so that they aren't limited in what characters they can use
2014-12-27 14:49:55	Shard1	true
2014-12-27 14:52:43	Shard1	Wait, is Shulk British?
2014-12-27 14:59:33	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> either characters, or bytes
2014-12-27 14:59:36	@Espyo	it's probably characters
2014-12-27 14:59:56	@Espyo	Shulk's VA is British
2014-12-27 15:00:14	Shard1	that's really what I meant
2014-12-27 15:03:32	Yoshi2	Espyo: I think it makes more sense for the number to be the change in bytes because the history page shows the amount of data for each version in bytes
2014-12-27 15:03:44	@Espyo	oh
2014-12-27 15:03:47	@Espyo	good point
2014-12-27 15:05:33	Shard1	A Pro Smash player got robbed.. What is going on in this world!!??!!??
2014-12-27 15:07:00	Yoshi2	Shard1: sadly, being a professional smash player does not make you immune to being robbed
2014-12-27 15:07:12	Shard1	yeah, but this world is crazy!
2014-12-27 15:07:32	@Espyo	Yoshi2: it's bytes http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikipedia:Sandbox&action=history
2014-12-27 15:08:46	Yoshi2	yep, that is proof enough
2014-12-27 15:09:28	Yoshi2	making the number represent the amount of characters would be a lot of work because that depends heavily on the encoding
2014-12-27 15:09:34	Shard1	Maybe Pikipedia should make a Smash tournament.
2014-12-27 15:10:59	@Espyo	mhm
2014-12-27 15:11:08	@Espyo	one of these months, we should
2014-12-27 15:11:35	Shard1	Not sure how well I would do'
2014-12-27 15:11:44	Shard1	I can beat level 6 cpus
2014-12-27 15:12:23	Yoshi2	I can beat specific characters on level 8 or 9
2014-12-27 15:12:31	Shard1	same here
2014-12-27 15:12:45	Shard1	But Pikachu is just insanely OP
2014-12-27 15:13:02	Yoshi2	and on specific levels, e.g. all final destination levels
2014-12-27 15:13:35	Yoshi2	some characters that have an automatic counterattack are horrible to fight against on high cpu levels
2014-12-27 15:14:34	Shard1	Link and Too Link's Shield that block projectiles is pretty cool though
2014-12-27 15:15:15	Yoshi2	indeed
2014-12-27 15:16:07	Shard1	Since my friend is a new-comer to smash, beating him online should be easy
2014-12-27 15:18:39	Shard1	I heard that Ganondorf is a pretty bad character
2014-12-27 15:20:51	Shard1	Do any of you have a lot of Pikmin trophies in smash?
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2014-12-27 23:35:24	@PikFan	hi
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2014-12-28 12:36:53	Testyo	Hey everyone!
2014-12-28 12:56:43	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2014-12-28 12:56:44	Testyo	one on each page would be very small compared to the ogg file
2014-12-28 13:03:36	@Espyo	hi
2014-12-28 15:12:45	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Sunny created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Sunny
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2014-12-28 15:42:53	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Burrow-nit family by LuisYKW2 (+1141 /* Members */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Burrow-nit_family&curid=17340&diff=143751&oldid=140523
2014-12-28 15:42:53	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Burrow-nit family by LuisYKW2 (+140 N Created page with "==Joustmite==  I believe the same Joustmites are the Burrow-n...) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Burrow-nit_family&curid=17998&diff=143752&oldid=0
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2014-12-28 17:10:45	Yoshi2	hm, I haven't used my free time to work on the BMS stuff at all
2014-12-28 17:10:56	Yoshi2	I should change that by doing a bit of work on it
2014-12-28 17:13:16	@Espyo	mhm
2014-12-28 17:15:03	Yoshi2	I've had some ideas I want to put into it
2014-12-28 17:17:26	Yoshi2	I will do away with the live bms playing so that I can focus on the bms -> midi file conversion
2014-12-28 17:19:59	@Espyo	yeah, probably for the best
2014-12-28 17:38:30	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Jellyfloat family by LuisYKW2 (-2 /* Lesser Spotted Jellyfloat */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Jellyfloat_family&curid=970&diff=143755&oldid=140545
2014-12-28 17:43:31	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Jellyfloat family by LuisYKW2 (+1 /* Greater Spotted Jellyfloat */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Jellyfloat_family&curid=970&diff=143756&oldid=143755
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2014-12-28 17:58:42	Shard1	Hello
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2014-12-28 19:02:30	Testyo	? right
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2014-12-28 19:44:09	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikmin family by LuisYKW2 (+13 /* References */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_family&curid=1253&diff=143757&oldid=143728
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2014-12-28 22:19:08	Testyo	oooo, hi
2014-12-28 22:19:13	UltraMario	...hi
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2014-12-28 22:31:31	@Espyo	lol
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2014-12-29 17:43:24	Mariostar	Testyo,i've finally saved up enough for the game & watch.
2014-12-29 17:43:33	Mariostar	l orderd it on the 23rd.
2014-12-29 17:43:45	Mariostar	*Espyo
2014-12-29 17:43:57	Mariostar	I'm stupid,arn't I?
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2014-12-29 19:03:25	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2014-12-29 19:04:40	UltraMario	hi
2014-12-29 19:08:10	@Espyo	hi
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2014-12-29 19:40:08	Yoshi2	hey Testyo 
2014-12-29 19:40:09	Testyo	yeah, you could run something like, 'remove all the pixels further than x standard deviations from the mean', then compute the standard deviation again
2014-12-29 19:40:33	Yoshi2	that makes a suprising amount of sense
2014-12-29 19:41:41	@Espyo	because most of it are actually J's words
2014-12-29 19:43:56	Yoshi2	it appears so
2014-12-29 19:45:21	Yoshi2	it does seem like cheating because "yeah, [...]" goes with everything
2014-12-29 19:46:11	@Espyo	hehe
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2014-12-29 22:36:11	Testyo	Good evening everyone!
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2014-12-29 22:43:25	Yoshi2	welcome back, Testyo 
2014-12-29 22:43:26	Testyo	but you could do the indentation and it has FUSE support, doesn't say if this supports writes
2014-12-29 22:44:47	@Espyo	power went out everywhere
2014-12-29 22:45:25	Yoshi2	that does not sound very pleasant
2014-12-29 22:48:38	@Espyo	HOLY SHIT
2014-12-29 22:48:39	Testyo	You're using quite the colorful words, aren't you?
2014-12-29 22:48:40	@Espyo	THAT 3RD CLIP
2014-12-29 22:50:01	Yoshi2	huh?
2014-12-29 22:50:22	Yoshi2	what clip?
2014-12-29 22:50:27	@Espyo	uhm
2014-12-29 22:50:32	@Espyo	if the copy-paste worked...
2014-12-29 22:50:33	@Espyo	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBsiL1ALNOI
2014-12-29 22:50:50	@Espyo	wait, WHAT
2014-12-29 22:50:56	@Espyo	it pasted on another network, on another channel?
2014-12-29 22:50:59	@Espyo	I...
2014-12-29 22:51:06	@Espyo	I seriously won't try to understand what just happened
2014-12-29 22:51:11	@Espyo	my mind's already blown with the video
2014-12-29 22:54:37	Yoshi2	I am not quite sure what is happening
2014-12-29 22:54:46	@Espyo	that was two phantom hits in a row
2014-12-29 22:54:56	@Espyo	a phantom hit is when the hitboxes just overlap at the edge
2014-12-29 22:55:05	@Espyo	it's... almost impossible to get a phantom hit
2014-12-29 22:55:13	@Espyo	like, the hitboxes are circles
2014-12-29 22:55:18	@Espyo	and they need to just scrape each other
2014-12-29 22:55:31	@Espyo	it happens like once a month, for people who play the game a lot
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2014-12-29 22:55:48	@Espyo	and there, it just happened twice in a row with one of the strongest attacks in the game, on a Jigglypuff that was a sitting duck of a target
2014-12-29 22:55:51	@Espyo	it's... incredible
2014-12-29 22:56:09	Yoshi2_	I've never really understood jigglypuff's sleeping move
2014-12-29 22:56:58	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] 3DS by AeroBlaze777 (-80 m /* Other */ Adding new ref.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=3DS&curid=8235&diff=143769&oldid=143767
2014-12-29 22:57:12	Yoshi2_	in the video clips it seems as if the player uses that move and then his punch becomes insanely powerful?
2014-12-29 22:57:31	@Espyo	it has nothing to do with the move in the Pokémon games
2014-12-29 22:57:39	@Espyo	but basically, when you do the move, you fall asleep
2014-12-29 22:58:00	@Espyo	except if you're touching somebody when you do it, it's a huge attack
2014-12-29 22:58:12	@Espyo	high risk, high reward
2014-12-29 22:58:23	Yoshi2_	that's what I thought
2014-12-29 22:58:40	@Espyo	I'm already pretty amazed to see this happen in tournaments as it is
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2014-12-29 22:58:54	@Espyo	if you fail, like they did several times in that video, you are going to get punished
2014-12-29 22:58:59	@Espyo	(as didn't happen in that video)
2014-12-29 22:59:00	Yoshi2_	but in some of the clips it didn't seem that anything happened right after the move was used, only when the player used an attack shortly after that
2014-12-29 22:59:09	@Espyo	yeah, on some, it was a phantom hit
2014-12-29 22:59:14	@Espyo	again, when the hitboxes just scrape each other
2014-12-29 22:59:23	@Espyo	the attack causes half the damage, and no knockback
2014-12-29 23:00:01	@Espyo	Testyo: are you acting up?
2014-12-29 23:00:02	Testyo	presumably on my computer that are ready to be imported to pikipedia
2014-12-29 23:00:04	@Espyo	no, he's fine
2014-12-29 23:00:09	@Espyo	well, as fine as he CAN be
2014-12-29 23:00:26	Yoshi2_	silly testyo, you cannot import computers to pikipedia
2014-12-29 23:00:27	Testyo	is Inkscape before the personal interviews
2014-12-29 23:02:36	@Espyo	hmmmm... you can do the opposite though
2014-12-29 23:02:37	@Espyo	kinda
2014-12-29 23:04:46	Yoshi2_	copy pikipedia's database and run a local instance of some wiki software?
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2014-12-29 23:06:49	@Espyo	mhm
2014-12-29 23:06:50	@PikFan	hi
2014-12-29 23:06:51	@Espyo	hey PikFan
2014-12-29 23:07:02	@PikFan	hmm, what did I walk into todat?
2014-12-29 23:07:04	@PikFan	*today
2014-12-29 23:07:14	@Espyo	Testyo: lm 2
2014-12-29 23:07:14	Testyo	I said presumably on my computer that are ready to be imported to pikipedia because Espyo mentioned my name. This random message came from the messages presumably on fanon and get and transform place things on my computer that are ready to be imported to pikipedia. They were joined by the common word on.
2014-12-29 23:07:31	@PikFan	oh, hm
2014-12-29 23:07:36	@PikFan	silly Testyo
2014-12-29 23:07:37	Testyo	you mean the longest of time, it did work
2014-12-29 23:08:23	Yoshi2_	g'day PikFan 
2014-12-29 23:08:36	@PikFan	hi
2014-12-29 23:09:57	Yoshi2_	we have also been talking a bit about this collection of clips involving Jigglypuff in SSB Melee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBsiL1ALNOI
2014-12-29 23:10:11	@PikFan	hm
2014-12-29 23:11:31	@PikFan	oh, right, I've been meaning to ask you about something, Espyo
2014-12-29 23:11:37	@Espyo	hmm?
2014-12-29 23:11:42	@PikFan	okay so
2014-12-29 23:12:17	@PikFan	I tried adding a conditional to {{f:PCW}} so that, if you gave it a value, the template wouldn't categorize
2014-12-29 23:12:17	Testyo	"PCW" template = http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Template:PCW
2014-12-29 23:12:23	@PikFan	but I failed
2014-12-29 23:12:48	@PikFan	(that's what it's called, right? conditional?)
2014-12-29 23:13:05	@PikFan	http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Template:PCW&diff=prev&oldid=47553
2014-12-29 23:14:05	@Espyo	doesn't really have a name, but sure
2014-12-29 23:14:18	@Espyo	uh, fanon's having digestive problems
2014-12-29 23:14:21	@Espyo	what happened to the style?
2014-12-29 23:14:30	@PikFan	yeah, that's another thing...
2014-12-29 23:14:37	@Espyo	simple mistake
2014-12-29 23:14:41	@Espyo	{{if:
2014-12-29 23:14:42	@Espyo	should be
2014-12-29 23:14:43	@Espyo	{{#if:
2014-12-29 23:14:49	@PikFan	...oh
2014-12-29 23:14:54	@PikFan	bleh
2014-12-29 23:14:57	@Espyo	hehe
2014-12-29 23:15:01	@Espyo	it's a bitch to discover
2014-12-29 23:15:03	@PikFan	well, I'm officially an idiot
2014-12-29 23:15:04	@Espyo	happens to me sometimes too
2014-12-29 23:15:11	@Espyo	for some reason, that # is VERY easy to forget
2014-12-29 23:15:14	@Espyo	anyway, as for the style...
2014-12-29 23:15:17	@Espyo	we'll have to talk to Porple
2014-12-29 23:15:36	@PikFan	yeah, sometimes shows up as monaco, other times as printable version
2014-12-29 23:15:38	@Espyo	oh, the style is back
2014-12-29 23:15:43	@PikFan	and I don't know why
2014-12-29 23:15:57	@Espyo	after you get Monaco back, do you ever get the printable version?
2014-12-29 23:16:01	@Espyo	until you close your browser, that is
2014-12-29 23:16:08	@PikFan	it's random, but for me, it seems to happen most often on the recent changes
2014-12-29 23:16:29	@PikFan	alright, closed both fanon tabs, now opening RC...
2014-12-29 23:16:44	@PikFan	alright, it's fine
2014-12-29 23:16:52	@PikFan	random page
2014-12-29 23:16:52	@Espyo	hmm
2014-12-29 23:17:01	@Espyo	the way I think this is happening
2014-12-29 23:17:10	@Espyo	is that the connection to fanon is pretty poor
2014-12-29 23:17:17	@Espyo	so when it tries to load, it loads the page but not the style
2014-12-29 23:17:23	@Espyo	(the thing that tells what should go where, in what colors)
2014-12-29 23:17:29	@PikFan	yeah, this happens when I first open it after the browser has opened
2014-12-29 23:17:33	@Espyo	but when you finally get the style to load, it stays in cache
2014-12-29 23:17:42	@Espyo	and it should stay in cache...
2014-12-29 23:17:46	@Espyo	well, either forever, or for a long time
2014-12-29 23:17:56	@Espyo	it shouldn't just "forget" after a the browser's reopened
2014-12-29 23:18:04	@Espyo	if this keeps happening, we'll have to take it to Porple
2014-12-29 23:18:22	@PikFan	this has been happening for a couple weeks
2014-12-29 23:18:36	@PikFan	at this point I ignore it
2014-12-29 23:19:49	@Espyo	...
2014-12-29 23:20:04	@PikFan	?
2014-12-29 23:23:18	@Espyo	it just sucks that it's happening
2014-12-29 23:23:21	@Espyo	makes no sense
2014-12-29 23:23:47	@Espyo	but it's a server problem
2014-12-29 23:23:56	@Espyo	Testyo has constant problems trying to read the recent changes
2014-12-29 23:23:56	Testyo	for templates where the argument only removes game icons, it's called 'noicons'; for some reason
2014-12-29 23:24:26	@Espyo	...I'd guess Porple partitioned the server connection loadout so that Fanon doesn't get much bandwidth
2014-12-29 23:24:31	@Espyo	it is very likely the least used wiki
2014-12-29 23:27:13	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Template:PCW by PikFan23 (+42 m hm) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Template:PCW&curid=4218&diff=47570&oldid=47556
2014-12-29 23:27:13	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Category:Pikmin: Connecti... by PikFan23 (-9 m hmmm) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Category:Pikmin:_Connection_of_the_Worlds&curid=4293&diff=47571&oldid=21997
2014-12-29 23:28:33	@PikFan	yep, it works
2014-12-29 23:28:39	@PikFan	gotta remember the #...
2014-12-29 23:32:27	@PikFan	fatal error
2014-12-29 23:33:10	@PikFan	quick, Espyo, go onto fanon, see if it says that a fatal error happened
2014-12-29 23:33:31	@Espyo	hm
2014-12-29 23:33:43	@Espyo	nope, everything is fine
2014-12-29 23:33:46	@Espyo	any particular page?
2014-12-29 23:33:50	@PikFan	RC
2014-12-29 23:34:03	@PikFan	wait, hold on
2014-12-29 23:34:16	@PikFan	just went to the main page, and it appeared, but it's Monaco
2014-12-29 23:34:56	@PikFan	tried a random page, and everything is fine again
2014-12-29 23:36:44	@Espyo	...
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2014-12-30 19:41:11	Testyo	Good evening everyone!
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2014-12-30 20:04:48	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2014-12-30 20:04:49	Testyo	always trying to work out I can make it less dark by turning the light on
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2014-12-30 20:06:48	BetqMaster	tespyo
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2014-12-30 20:10:00	Miles	Guess I should mention that AGDQ is next week
2014-12-30 20:10:07	Miles	I'm doing Prime on Friday
2014-12-30 20:11:52	@Espyo	wait what
2014-12-30 20:11:54	@Espyo	when did this happen
2014-12-30 20:12:07	@Espyo	how did time just fly like that?
2014-12-30 20:12:16	@Espyo	anyway, I'd wish you luck, but let's face it, you don't need it
2014-12-30 20:12:20	@Espyo	Prime is your thing
2014-12-30 20:12:24	@Espyo	you've transcended beyond luck
2014-12-30 20:12:27	@Espyo	still, good luck out there
2014-12-30 20:12:40	@Espyo	...crud, now that I work, it's gonna be impossible to watch anything
2014-12-30 20:12:46	@Espyo	plus chances are you'll run Prime when I'm asleep
2014-12-30 20:14:47	Miles	It's 10 AM here
2014-12-30 20:14:52	Miles	EST
2014-12-30 20:18:38	Miles	Actually just https://gamesdonequick.com/schedule
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2014-12-30 20:34:07	@Espyo	thanks
2014-12-30 20:34:12	@Espyo	let's see...
2014-12-30 20:35:30	@Espyo	uhm
2014-12-30 20:35:35	@Espyo	if this is AWESOME Games Done Quick
2014-12-30 20:35:39	@Espyo	what is Sonic Heroes doing there
2014-12-30 20:36:38	@Espyo	well, I'll be awake when you run it
2014-12-30 20:36:40	@Espyo	but I'll be at work
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2014-12-30 21:41:03	Shard1	Hey guys!
2014-12-30 21:41:31	Shard1	Check out what I made http://miburl.com/ITuQc7 
2014-12-30 21:42:12	Shard1	Here's a full link http://miburl.com/woCRmh 
2014-12-30 21:42:28	@Espyo	both links 404
2014-12-30 21:42:33	Shard1	What?
2014-12-30 21:42:35	@Espyo	...they take me to homeimprovement.com
2014-12-30 21:42:43	@Espyo	http://www.homeimprovement.com/miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHiAQv_5NA is the full URL it takes me to
2014-12-30 21:42:57	Shard1	-_-
2014-12-30 21:43:02	Shard1	This is crazy
2014-12-30 21:43:08	@Espyo	simple, don't use miburl
2014-12-30 21:43:11	@Espyo	or mibpaste
2014-12-30 21:43:14	Shard1	https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHiAQv_5NA
2014-12-30 21:43:16	Shard1	there
2014-12-30 21:43:16	@Espyo	they're both broken to hell and back
2014-12-30 21:43:29	@Espyo	that looks neat, but the texture on the Plasm Wraith is somehow REALLY wrong
2014-12-30 21:43:39	@Espyo	it looks fine on the actual trophy view mode
2014-12-30 21:43:42	Shard1	That was Smash Bros, not me
2014-12-30 21:43:46	@Espyo	must just act up on the diorama
2014-12-30 21:43:53	@Espyo	yeah, I know
2014-12-30 21:44:18	Shard1	I have almost all of the indigenous like trophies
2014-12-30 21:44:50	@Espyo	I still have a bit to go
2014-12-30 21:45:03	@Espyo	and I really want them, because I want to see how the Portuguese translators messed up the names and descriptions
2014-12-30 21:45:03	Shard1	Otherwise, I beat all-star mode
2014-12-30 21:45:05	@Espyo	which they already did
2014-12-30 21:45:11	Shard1	lol
2014-12-30 21:45:23	@Espyo	the Iridescent Glint Beetle is just called Iridescent Beetle
2014-12-30 21:45:27	@Espyo	they decided to drop the Glint in Smash 3DS
2014-12-30 21:45:33	Shard1	they do that a lot with Polish Translations
2014-12-30 21:45:37	@Espyo	and then the Smash Wii U Iridescent FLINT Beetle trophy came along...
2014-12-30 21:45:42	@Espyo	and they had to come up with a new name
2014-12-30 21:45:46	@Espyo	Iridescent SCARAB
2014-12-30 21:45:48	@Espyo	good grief
2014-12-30 21:46:26	Shard1	Do they have an Alph trophy?
2014-12-30 21:47:35	@Espyo	yep
2014-12-30 21:47:45	@Espyo	they have one for each P3 leader
2014-12-30 21:48:13	Shard1	Do they have an armored mawdad trophy?
2014-12-30 21:49:07	@Espyo	pretty sure they don't have that one, though
2014-12-30 21:49:09	Miles	Well, Alph is playable so they have to have a trophy...
2014-12-30 21:49:14	@Espyo	yeah
2014-12-30 21:49:23	@Espyo	oh yeah, they have one for each Koopaling too, right?
2014-12-30 21:49:26	Miles	Yes
2014-12-30 21:49:28	@Espyo	so... yep, makes the most sense
2014-12-30 21:49:43	Shard1	Oh, well that makes sense.
2014-12-30 21:50:34	Shard1	Still strange that they didn't give him something like rock pikmin
2014-12-30 21:50:49	@Espyo	they couldn't really find a place for it
2014-12-30 21:51:53	Shard1	They also didn't give much music to the Garden of Hope stage. New music
2014-12-30 21:52:33	@Espyo	yeah...
2014-12-30 21:53:08	Miles	That Mission Mode remix is so weird
2014-12-30 21:53:33	Shard1	The Mission Mode Remix? I don't believe I heard that one
2014-12-30 21:53:40	Miles	It's unlockable
2014-12-30 21:54:31	@Espyo	it's weird, but I like it
2014-12-30 21:54:51	Shard1	Can I get a link to the music?
2014-12-30 21:55:18	@Espyo	should be right there on youtube
2014-12-30 21:55:28	@Espyo	just search smash wii u mission mode remix
2014-12-30 21:56:18	Shard1	All they did was basically make it for guitar
2014-12-30 21:56:45	@Espyo	they remixed the tempo and composition a bit
2014-12-30 21:56:49	@Espyo	the notes are still the same,
2014-12-30 21:56:51	@Espyo	*-,
2014-12-30 21:56:59	Shard1	How can I unlock it?
2014-12-30 21:57:23	@Espyo	hm, not sure
2014-12-30 21:57:57	Shard1	what was google invented for, huh?
2014-12-30 21:59:18	@Espyo	heh
2014-12-30 21:59:24	@Espyo	nah, but it should say on SmashWiki
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2014-12-30 21:59:42	Shard1	But where in it? I am currently looking
2014-12-30 21:59:51	@Espyo	I can't find it either
2014-12-30 21:59:55	@Espyo	they're a bit behind schedule
2014-12-30 22:00:00	@Espyo	...like we were when Pikmin 3 came out
2014-12-30 22:00:09	@Espyo	anyway, it's either in a challenge, or a random unlock
2014-12-30 22:02:26	Shard1	Ok, you have to clear classic in 20 minutes with Olimar
2014-12-30 22:02:54	@Espyo	oh
2014-12-30 22:02:57	@Espyo	easy
2014-12-30 22:03:09	Shard1	But, I already did that
2014-12-30 22:03:56	@Espyo	then you should have it
2014-12-30 22:04:02	@Espyo	you just haven't heard it yet
2014-12-30 22:04:09	Shard1	Hmm, I'll have to check that
2014-12-30 22:04:29	Shard1	Now, how to unlock Forest of hope
2014-12-30 22:06:46	Shard1	wait, it's default
2014-12-30 22:06:51	Shard1	<facepalm>
2014-12-30 22:11:23	Shard1	So, what do you think of Mega Man?
2014-12-30 22:15:35	Shard1	This music has some tough requirments
2014-12-30 22:19:44	@Espyo	I find Mega Man hard to play as
2014-12-30 22:19:47	@Espyo	but so much fun to play as
2014-12-30 22:20:18	Shard1	I love shouting out his moves as I do them "Metal Man's Metal Blade!!"
2014-12-30 22:21:31	Shard1	What about the Mega Man 2 Medley?
2014-12-30 22:21:40	Shard1	I think that it's pretty cool
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2014-12-30 22:23:32	@Espyo	all of the Mega Man music kicks ass
2014-12-30 22:24:21	Shard1	I only personally like the Mega Man 2 medley
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2014-12-30 23:00:55	@Espyo	and then suddenly the Pikmin Wiki folk lay out the obscure trivia
2014-12-30 23:01:19	@Espyo	a) in Pikmin 2, if the only Pikmin are stuck behind a paper bag or something, the Onion spills out new seeds
2014-12-30 23:01:35	@Espyo	b) if you hold a direction on the D-pad while a 2-Player Battle level is loading, it influences the layout
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2014-12-30 23:28:27	Testyo	oh trying to PROVE it
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2014-12-30 23:35:58	@Espyo	actually, Testyo... we ARE trying to prove the 2nd one
2014-12-30 23:35:58	Testyo	ok. am i the only one who has a lot of adds pop up wile on an existing sig
2014-12-30 23:36:03	@Espyo	because I can't get it to happen
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2014-12-30 23:36:09	@Espyo	might be Wii US only
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2014-12-30 23:54:45	@Espyo	hey PikFan
2014-12-30 23:54:45	@Espyo	news
2014-12-30 23:54:50	@PikFan	hmm?
2014-12-30 23:54:51	@Espyo	the wikians knew something they never told before
2014-12-30 23:54:55	@Espyo	two fun facts
2014-12-30 23:55:00	@Espyo	 1) in Pikmin 2, if the only Pikmin are stuck behind a paper bag or something, the Onion spills out new seeds
2014-12-30 23:55:01	UltraMario	hey guys
2014-12-30 23:55:06	@Espyo	 2) if you hold a direction on the D-pad while a 2-Player Battle level is loading, it influences the layout
2014-12-30 23:55:11	UltraMario	ugh i really hate my windows 8 right now
2014-12-30 23:55:15	@Espyo	we're currently trying to double-check if 2) is right
2014-12-30 23:55:16	UltraMario	fucking mouse keeps stopping
2014-12-30 23:55:17	@Espyo	it doesn't seem right
2014-12-30 23:55:20	@Espyo	hey UltraMario
2014-12-30 23:55:22	@Espyo	windows 8 a shit
2014-12-30 23:55:22	Testyo	Weren't you told not to swear? That's rude!
2014-12-30 23:55:27	@Espyo	Testyo, please
2014-12-30 23:55:28	Testyo	and when you write the entire thing to a file, it goes collisions are perfectly fine
2014-12-30 23:55:30	UltraMario	lol
2014-12-30 23:55:36	UltraMario	I like windows 8 tho :(
2014-12-30 23:55:46	@Espyo	loads of things about windows 8 are just a bother to me
2014-12-30 23:55:46	UltraMario	it's just this mouse is really annoying
2014-12-30 23:55:49	@Espyo	half of them I don't even use
2014-12-30 23:55:59	@Espyo	but check if it's not the USB plug's problem
2014-12-30 23:56:01	@Espyo	or the mouse's
2014-12-30 23:56:08	UltraMario	well it's a laptop, so
2014-12-30 23:56:14	UltraMario	i mean the touchpad\
2014-12-30 23:56:16	UltraMario	:P
2014-12-30 23:56:43	@PikFan	okay so this guy is an idiot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HDb9Ijynfo
2014-12-30 23:57:04	@PikFan	he claims that the Earth is "expanding", but there is no way that that could happen
2014-12-30 23:57:27	@PikFan	he says that the extra mass is made by pair-production
2014-12-30 23:57:46	@PikFan	yes, pair-production does exist, but only near black holes
2014-12-30 23:58:04	@PikFan	and there aren't any black holes inside the Earth
2014-12-30 23:58:51	@PikFan	then he is bashing users for calling it expansion, and says that it is "growing", but they're the same thing :|
2014-12-31 00:01:18	@Espyo	woah, 10 minutes
2014-12-31 00:01:33	@Espyo	hm, I guess that is pretty much the same thing
2014-12-31 00:01:36	@Espyo	probably needs more context
2014-12-31 00:01:40	@Espyo	anyway, gotta hurry to bed
2014-12-31 00:02:47	@PikFan	fair enough
2014-12-31 00:02:54	@PikFan	night
2014-12-31 00:03:17	@Espyo	night
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2014-12-31 00:03:51	@PikFan	...
2014-12-31 00:03:57	@PikFan	stupid sound is stupid
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2014-12-31 14:06:55	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2014-12-31 14:09:08	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2014-12-31 14:09:09	Testyo	but very
2014-12-31 14:15:24	@Espyo	hi
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2014-12-31 16:06:40	Mariostar	Espyo,do you want a free code for Kirby triple deluxe?
2014-12-31 16:06:52	@Espyo	where'd you get it from?
2014-12-31 16:07:06	Mariostar	Club Nintendo promotion
2014-12-31 16:07:13	@Espyo	oh, nice
2014-12-31 16:07:15	@Espyo	why don't you want it?
2014-12-31 16:07:39	Mariostar	I don't know.
2014-12-31 16:08:03	@Espyo	well, yeah, I guess I do
2014-12-31 16:08:09	@Espyo	if you're sure you don't
2014-12-31 16:08:23	Mariostar	Ok,when the email comes i'll give it you.
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2014-12-31 16:08:52	Mariostar	I just thought i'd get you something for Christmas. :P
2014-12-31 16:09:10	@Espyo	heh, thanks
2014-12-31 16:09:16	@Espyo	but don't feel obliged to give me anything
2014-12-31 16:09:20	@Espyo	also if it's still not too late
2014-12-31 16:09:25	@Espyo	you're probably better off picking Zelda instead
2014-12-31 16:09:28	@Espyo	it's a pretty good game
2014-12-31 16:09:33	@Espyo	get it and play it
2014-12-31 16:09:41	Mariostar	It's too late.
2014-12-31 16:09:51	Mariostar	You can't change,l set it.
2014-12-31 16:10:12	@Espyo	ah
2014-12-31 16:10:22	Mariostar	I'm playing for fun on SSB4
2014-12-31 16:10:30	Mariostar	Found z taunt oarty. -_-
2014-12-31 16:11:06	Mariostar	brb
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2014-12-31 16:23:15	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Nintendo Land by AeroBlaze777 (+300) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Nintendo_Land&curid=18006&diff=143786&oldid=143785
2014-12-31 16:43:52	Yoshi2_	kirby is quite a fun game, definitely not a bad choice if Zelda is not an option
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2014-12-31 16:44:47	Yoshi2	I do wonder why mariostar doesn't want the game himself
2014-12-31 16:46:45	@Espyo	I do wonder how we went from being insane to suddenly handing out free games
2014-12-31 16:48:02	Yoshi2	it does seem a bit odd
2014-12-31 16:50:38	@Espyo	he's just odd all around, really
2014-12-31 16:53:58	Yoshi2	usually I'd say that it is an attempt to gain favours by giving away something neat for free, but I'm not sure about it in this case
2014-12-31 16:54:21	@Espyo	yeah, I thought that too
2014-12-31 17:29:06	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Puffy Blowhog by E (+74) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Puffy_Blowhog&curid=1122&diff=143794&oldid=140667
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2014-12-31 19:11:44	@Espyo	http://imgur.com/a/WIAbd wow
2014-12-31 19:14:10	Yoshi2	I'm ready for the Pikmin 1 Super Ultra HD Remake
2014-12-31 19:15:34	Yoshi2	that is definitely some good work the person did there
2014-12-31 19:19:24	@Espyo	mhm
2014-12-31 19:19:42	Yoshi2	I do love such reimaginations
2014-12-31 19:19:59	Yoshi2	Black Mesa looks pretty damn great compared to the original Half Life 1
2014-12-31 19:26:21	@Espyo	I don't know much about Black Mesa, but yeah, I think it really does
2014-12-31 19:41:00	@Espyo	I post on reddit once
2014-12-31 19:41:05	@Espyo	I get over 150 upvotes
2014-12-31 19:41:06	@Espyo	http://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/2qwnus/how_to_add_two_numbers_in_javascript/cna8mhi I am a god
2014-12-31 19:41:10	@Espyo	J, you there?
2014-12-31 19:41:14	@Espyo	haven't even heard from you in ages
2014-12-31 19:45:13	Yoshi2	something similar happened to me too
2014-12-31 19:45:44	@Espyo	I honestly don't get why reddit gets so much flak
2014-12-31 19:45:47	@Espyo	I mean, I do get one thing
2014-12-31 19:45:51	@Espyo	the "le this" and "le that"
2014-12-31 19:46:04	@Espyo	but honestly? I've been using reddit for a month, on several different types of subreddits
2014-12-31 19:46:12	@Espyo	and not once have I seen people being obnoxious and using "le"
2014-12-31 19:46:53	Yoshi2	my top three posts by karma: 1) I posted an image of what the text in a game actually says
2014-12-31 19:47:19	Yoshi2	2) I translated some text in a gif file
2014-12-31 19:48:00	Yoshi2	3) In a submission about a project I'm involved in, I announce that I am one of the people who work on the project
2014-12-31 19:48:32	@Espyo	nice
2014-12-31 19:48:33	Yoshi2	1) and 2) were barely any effort, and yet I have the most upvotes from them
2014-12-31 19:48:48	@Espyo	I love when that happens
2014-12-31 19:49:33	Yoshi2	I have tons of high effort posts with less than 10 upvotes
2014-12-31 19:50:46	@Espyo	and I hate when THAT happens
2014-12-31 19:51:34	Yoshi2	I've been on reddit for 2 years now, and only 500-600 upvotes 
2014-12-31 19:52:17	Yoshi2	you could post some lame image in one of the default subreddits and get more upvotes from a single submission
2014-12-31 19:53:11	@Espyo	yeah...
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2014-12-31 20:16:01	Yoshi2	but I like to think that when I am replying to somebody and receive a few upvotes, that's a few people who have read my text
2014-12-31 20:16:17	Yoshi2	which means that I passed on my knowledge in that text to a few other people
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2014-12-31 20:24:39	Testyo	Good evening everyone!
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2014-12-31 20:25:18	@Espyo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMLvzUz-Ubg hm, ORKAL's been replacing models for years
2014-12-31 20:28:33	Yoshi2	<Yoshi2> but I like to think that when I am replying to somebody and receive a few upvotes, that's a few people who have read my text
2014-12-31 20:28:33	Yoshi2	<Yoshi2> which means that I passed on my knowledge in that text to a few other people
2014-12-31 20:29:35	@Espyo	oh, yeah
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2014-12-31 21:49:28	@PikFan	okay so
2014-12-31 21:49:43	@PikFan	last night I took apart my 3DS
2014-12-31 21:50:12	@PikFan	I managed to reveal the backside of the upper screen
2014-12-31 21:50:33	@PikFan	now I don't know which ribbons I need to check
2014-12-31 21:51:19	@PikFan	there was a discussion I was reading, and someone said that it's probably caused by ribbon tear or some ribbons getting loose
2014-12-31 21:51:30	@PikFan	hopefully it's the latter
2014-12-31 21:51:52	@PikFan	but the post never specified WHICH ribbons
2014-12-31 21:56:01	@PikFan	https://www.consolezombie.com/Images/3DS/toplcd/3ds-top-screen-parts.jpg
2014-12-31 21:56:40	@PikFan	oh, by the way, is it 2015 for anyone yet?
2014-12-31 21:58:35	@PikFan	,,,oh
2014-12-31 21:58:42	@PikFan	*...
2014-12-31 21:59:21	@PikFan	apparently it's the speaker and camera cables, but I don't know where those are
2014-12-31 22:12:52	@Espyo	hi PikFan
2014-12-31 22:12:57	@Espyo	woah, you went crazy
2014-12-31 22:13:05	@Espyo	had nothing to lose, though
2014-12-31 22:13:05	Yoshi2	you are planning to repair the 3DS?
2014-12-31 22:20:16	@PikFan	Yoshi2: yes
2014-12-31 22:22:26	@PikFan	I think the hardest part will be putting everything back together
2014-12-31 22:23:15	@PikFan	figuring out which screws go where will be hard
2014-12-31 22:23:22	@PikFan	hopefully it won't be
2014-12-31 22:24:01	@PikFan	anyway, going now
2014-12-31 22:24:13	@PikFan	you guys have a good New Year's
2014-12-31 22:24:19	@PikFan	see you in 2015
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2015-01-01 12:14:21	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-01 12:17:19	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-01-01 12:17:19	Testyo	ok, you see at the top of the boom
2015-01-01 12:18:02	Yoshi2	by now, I'm sure the new year has already started everywhere in the world
2015-01-01 12:18:14	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-01 12:18:20	@Espyo	not something I particularly think about
2015-01-01 12:18:25	@Espyo	but yeah, I guess it makes sense
2015-01-01 12:19:45	Yoshi2	it's fun to have people you know in Australia
2015-01-01 12:20:00	@Espyo	hehe, nice
2015-01-01 12:20:07	@Espyo	also apparently, it's J's birthday
2015-01-01 12:20:15	@Espyo	or maybe the default birth date on skype is 1/1
2015-01-01 12:20:16	Yoshi2	their new year starts ~10 hours before it starts in Europe
2015-01-01 12:20:38	@Espyo	oh, I'm guessing they're the firsts
2015-01-01 12:20:50	Yoshi2	one of the first, definitely
2015-01-01 12:21:36	UltraMaudiosurf	hi
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2015-01-01 12:23:30	Yoshi2	hey UltraMario 
2015-01-01 12:23:57	UltraMario	do you have smash wii u
2015-01-01 12:25:28	Yoshi2	I do not have Smash on the Wii U
2015-01-01 12:25:31	Yoshi2	(yet)
2015-01-01 12:25:47	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-01 12:27:59	UltraMario	ok
2015-01-01 12:30:19	Yoshi2	I'm ready to throw money at the game once I finally find a GC adapter for a normal price again
2015-01-01 12:31:54	UltraMario	you could always just get one of those mayflash adapters :P
2015-01-01 12:34:17	UltraMario	wtf why is itunes taking so long to sign into the itunes store >_<
2015-01-01 12:36:06	Yoshi2	the mayflash one is only for PC though
2015-01-01 12:36:51	Yoshi2	can't really play Smash 4 Wii U with it, I would imagine
2015-01-01 12:37:05	UltraMario	no it's not
2015-01-01 12:37:09	UltraMario	:|
2015-01-01 12:37:43	UltraMario	gimme a sec yoshi2
2015-01-01 12:37:49	Yoshi2	hm, unless they also made something for Wii U
2015-01-01 12:38:18	UltraMario	yeah they did
2015-01-01 12:38:36	UltraMario	http://www.amazon.com/Mayflash-Nintendo-GameCube-Controller-Adapter-Wii/dp/B00BS520SG
2015-01-01 12:38:57	UltraMario	it functions like a classic controller, so you can also use it with any game
2015-01-01 12:39:01	UltraMario	unlike the official adapter
2015-01-01 12:39:06	Yoshi2	hmmmm
2015-01-01 12:39:43	UltraMario	the only thing that's a little annoying (not sure if this happes to anyone else) is that you have to give it about 30 seconds to properly start up
2015-01-01 12:39:52	UltraMario	cuz like there's this blinking red light on the adapter
2015-01-01 12:40:08	UltraMario	and for some reason the home button is pressed when it's not
2015-01-01 12:40:17	UltraMario	you just gotta leave it alone for a bit and it should work
2015-01-01 12:43:25	Yoshi2	the downside is that I'd have to buy one such thing for every GC controller I want to use
2015-01-01 12:44:14	UltraMario	wait huh
2015-01-01 12:44:24	UltraMario	oh so you want 4 of them for more than one person then
2015-01-01 12:44:53	Yoshi2	I have siblings who would love to play the game too
2015-01-01 12:45:02	UltraMario	oh okay
2015-01-01 12:45:05	Yoshi2	and I have two GC controllers
2015-01-01 12:45:07	UltraMario	well I think it's only like 10 bucks
2015-01-01 12:45:17	UltraMario	so it's 20 for 2
2015-01-01 12:46:25	UltraMario	not bad if i do say so myself
2015-01-01 12:46:55	Yoshi2	hm, I'd have to look around for it a bit
2015-01-01 12:47:05	UltraMario	for what?
2015-01-01 12:47:46	Yoshi2	for the adapter
2015-01-01 12:48:09	UltraMario	oh well it's on amazon :P
2015-01-01 12:48:16	UltraMario	idk if they have it in stores
2015-01-01 12:49:08	Yoshi2	in your link it is 25 bucks
2015-01-01 12:49:41	UltraMario	oh
2015-01-01 12:49:43	UltraMario	huh
2015-01-01 12:49:47	UltraMario	woops :P
2015-01-01 12:50:05	Yoshi2	that makes it rather expensive
2015-01-01 12:50:11	UltraMario	well it has different sellers that sell it for different prices so idk
2015-01-01 12:50:16	Yoshi2	yeah
2015-01-01 12:50:17	UltraMario	you only want 2, right?
2015-01-01 12:51:17	Yoshi2	even if I only wanted 2, that would be 50 USD
2015-01-01 12:51:17	Testyo	50 USD = 36.86 € / £ 31.525 
2015-01-01 12:51:43	UltraMario	well that's 10 bucks more than the adapter would've costed alone normally
2015-01-01 12:51:56	UltraMario	still better than 100+ dollars I suppose
2015-01-01 12:51:57	UltraMario	:P
2015-01-01 12:52:19	Yoshi2	probably, but I think I will wait a bit more
2015-01-01 12:52:38	Yoshi2	university starts soon again, so I can say bye-bye to my free time
2015-01-01 12:52:59	Yoshi2	in addition, shipping from the USA to here could probably add a bit to the price
2015-01-01 12:53:24	UltraMario	oh i didn't know you weren't from US, sorry
2015-01-01 12:53:25	UltraMario	:P
2015-01-01 12:53:33	Yoshi2	unless I find a local store that sells it
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2015-01-01 12:56:11	@Espyo	I'm just bewildered at how I could even find an adapter in Portugal
2015-01-01 12:56:21	@Espyo	specially one in a bundle, and one alone
2015-01-01 12:56:27	@Espyo	(one = one product, not one instance)
2015-01-01 12:56:44	Yoshi2	indeed, you were very lucky
2015-01-01 12:57:35	UltraMario	hey Edspyo what's your NNID?
2015-01-01 12:58:38	Yoshi2	there are two months or so until my semester ends and I'm done with the exams, so Nintendo will have plenty of time to bring the adapter back into stock
2015-01-01 12:59:56	@Espyo	I'll get it when I turn the console on
2015-01-01 13:00:00	@Espyo	I should really save it somewhere handy
2015-01-01 13:00:38	UltraMario	Espyo what's your nnid
2015-01-01 13:00:54	@Espyo	I'll get it when I turn the console on
2015-01-01 13:00:55	@Espyo	I should really save it somewhere handy
2015-01-01 13:00:55	UltraMario	ugh sorry
2015-01-01 13:00:57	UltraMario	im lagging
2015-01-01 13:00:57	@Espyo	lol
2015-01-01 13:01:09	UltraMario	darn connection
2015-01-01 13:12:49	UltraMario	btw guys I stayed up all night...
2015-01-01 13:13:53	Miles	Smash is fun
2015-01-01 13:14:33	Yoshi2	I wasn't able to stay up all night, went to bed around midnight
2015-01-01 13:23:07	@Espyo	Yoshi2: same here
2015-01-01 13:23:09	@Espyo	Miles: same here
2015-01-01 13:23:41	UltraMario	:P
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2015-01-01 16:07:29	Testyo	no, that's for merges between pages in where you have to steal clouds
2015-01-01 16:08:18	UltraMario	lolwutr
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2015-01-01 16:14:35	Yoshi2_	that is a good one
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2015-01-01 16:16:06	Yoshi2	Testyo: lm
2015-01-01 16:16:07	Testyo	I said no, that's for merges between pages in where you have to steal clouds because it was a timed random message. This random message came from the messages no, that's for merges between pages in the wiki, and has existed for some times and my friend, this is the part where you have to steal clouds.
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2015-01-01 17:42:44	@Espyo	welp, there goes that
2015-01-01 17:42:54	@Espyo	I tried to see if I could find the field on the Pikmin 2 saves that controls the current sublevel
2015-01-01 17:43:04	@Espyo	one save on EC1, the other on the 2nd sublevel
2015-01-01 17:43:10	@Espyo	the two files are ALMOST fully different
2015-01-01 17:43:18	@Espyo	and there are a LOT of strings
2015-01-01 17:43:41	@Espyo	wait, why is it even saving data about the frog enemies, if Emergence Cave has none
2015-01-01 17:43:48	@Espyo	oh, might be the location of the enemies in the overworld
2015-01-01 17:44:13	@Espyo	...Valley of Repose has none, either
2015-01-01 17:44:26	@Espyo	oh, uh, save data for defeated enemies that respawn after some days
2015-01-01 17:44:53	@Espyo	./data/Frog/model.szs./enemy/data/Frog/anim.szs./enemy/data/FireOtakara/otakara_red_s3tc.bti./enemy/data/FireOtakara/model.szs./enemy/data/FireOtakara/anim.szs./enemy/data/FireChappy/yakichappy.btk./enemy/data/FireChappy/yakichappy.brk./enemy/data/FireChappy/model.szs./enemy/data/FireChappy/anim.szs./enemy/data/Fart/babakogane_s3tc.bti./enemy/data/ElecOtakara/otakara_yellow_s3tc.bti./enemy/data/ElecHiba/model.szs(...)
2015-01-01 17:45:00	@Espyo	that... doesn't really look like anything
2015-01-01 17:45:27	Yoshi2	file paths to the data on the CD?
2015-01-01 17:45:47	Yoshi2	that's not in the save data, is it?
2015-01-01 17:52:54	@Espyo	it's in the save data
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2015-01-01 20:28:54	@PikFan	happy new year
2015-01-01 20:28:56	@PikFan	/late
2015-01-01 20:29:07	Yoshi2	never too late
2015-01-01 20:29:08	@PikFan	also my computer is being dumb
2015-01-01 20:32:13	@PikFan	http://www.pikminwiki.com/User_talk:Espyo/2014
2015-01-01 20:32:22	@PikFan	me: "Pikipedia will be prosperous and split-free until the end of time! ...Probably."
2015-01-01 20:32:25	@PikFan	who gets it?
2015-01-01 20:33:12	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-01 20:33:14	@Espyo	I got it now
2015-01-01 20:33:15	@Espyo	hehehe
2015-01-01 20:33:55	@PikFan	yay for Pikmin 2-induced humor
2015-01-01 20:34:31	@PikFan	I wasn't sure if I was allowed to comment, but I went ahead anyway
2015-01-01 20:34:35	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-01 20:34:40	@Espyo	I was going to post on my user page
2015-01-01 20:34:49	@Espyo	but then that would uh... not-allow commenting
2015-01-01 20:34:52	@Espyo	so that's why it's on the talk page
2015-01-01 20:34:57	@PikFan	yeah
2015-01-01 20:34:59	@Espyo	so yeah, comments are fine
2015-01-01 20:35:20	@Espyo	anyway, I'm researching the D-Pad 2-Player Battle trick
2015-01-01 20:35:22	@Espyo	this thing's crazy
2015-01-01 20:37:20	@PikFan	heh, why?
2015-01-01 20:37:49	@Espyo	up picks the first layout
2015-01-01 20:37:53	@Espyo	right picks the second, down, the third
2015-01-01 20:37:58	@Espyo	it's pretty useful to get specific layouts
2015-01-01 20:38:05	@Espyo	which is why I think this was a debugging tool
2015-01-01 20:38:06	@Espyo	BUT
2015-01-01 20:38:12	@Espyo	holding left just messes things up
2015-01-01 20:38:15	@Espyo	it...
2015-01-01 20:38:20	@Espyo	I don't even know, I'm still trying to find out
2015-01-01 20:38:26	@Espyo	but it looks like it just creates a random cave
2015-01-01 20:38:34	@Espyo	using cave units either from the normal game, or from some unused files
2015-01-01 20:38:56	@PikFan	maybe it generates the layouts in a pattern?
2015-01-01 20:39:11	@Espyo	doesn't quite look like it
2015-01-01 20:39:34	@Espyo	because these layouts are nowhere to be found, are pretty much purely random, are not symmetrical, and stuff like Onion positioning is insane
2015-01-01 20:39:44	@PikFan	wait, what
2015-01-01 20:40:05	@PikFan	these layouts aren't one of the main layouts...?!
2015-01-01 20:40:24	@Espyo	nope
2015-01-01 20:40:31	@Espyo	the layouts created by holding left are just crazy-land
2015-01-01 20:40:36	@PikFan	o.o
2015-01-01 20:40:43	@PikFan	I HAVE GOT TO TRY THIS
2015-01-01 20:40:43	@Espyo	not THAT crazy, but still pretty non-sensical
2015-01-01 20:40:47	@Espyo	go for it
2015-01-01 20:40:48	@Espyo	easy to do
2015-01-01 20:40:50	@Espyo	works on PAL and NTSC
2015-01-01 20:40:57	@PikFan	hold left, yeah?
2015-01-01 20:40:58	@Espyo	just make sure you have 2 Wii Remotes with Nunchuks
2015-01-01 20:41:08	@Espyo	when you pick the stage, and the little Onions fly into the preview
2015-01-01 20:41:10	@Espyo	hold left then
2015-01-01 20:41:15	@PikFan	...oh, this is on Wii
2015-01-01 20:41:16	@Espyo	you can let go when on the loading screen
2015-01-01 20:41:22	@Espyo	yeah, Wii only, I'm afraid...
2015-01-01 20:41:22	@PikFan	I thought you meant GCN
2015-01-01 20:41:26	@PikFan	damn
2015-01-01 20:41:29	@Espyo	so did I, when Ryen told me
2015-01-01 20:41:31	@Espyo	but I thought you had NPC
2015-01-01 20:41:59	@PikFan	I have both GCN and NPC Pikmin 2
2015-01-01 20:42:19	@Espyo	well there you go
2015-01-01 20:42:24	@PikFan	hmm, I'll try this later, once I find my other Nunchuk
2015-01-01 20:42:33	@PikFan	I have no idea where it is
2015-01-01 20:42:48	@PikFan	but I'll definitely keep this in mind
2015-01-01 20:42:58	@Espyo	I'll add it to the wiki, anyway
2015-01-01 20:43:01	@Espyo	probably TCRF too
2015-01-01 20:43:06	@Espyo	it's not unused, but it IS a debugging tool
2015-01-01 20:43:17	@Espyo	which pretty much looks like it makes use of unused files
2015-01-01 20:43:18	@PikFan	hold on, sound died
2015-01-01 20:43:20	@Espyo	so it basically counts
2015-01-01 20:43:25	@PikFan	have to restart Firefox... sigh
2015-01-01 20:43:28	@Espyo	:|
2015-01-01 20:43:30	@PikFan	brb
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2015-01-01 20:44:02	@PikFan	sound's back
2015-01-01 20:44:14	@PikFan	I don't know why my sound keeps dying
2015-01-01 20:44:17	@PikFan	it's so bizzare
2015-01-01 20:45:25	Yoshi2	ah, it only works on the Wii version of the game?
2015-01-01 20:46:01	Yoshi2	I've always assumed that the GCN and Wii version were the same for the most part, but I guess that is not the case
2015-01-01 20:46:26	@Espyo	they're pretty different
2015-01-01 20:46:32	@Espyo	they're only the same in resources, pretty much
2015-01-01 20:46:39	@Espyo	sound, textures, text, areas
2015-01-01 20:46:48	@Espyo	besides some strings, of course
2015-01-01 20:46:54	@Espyo	like press X to dismiss -> press C to dismiss
2015-01-01 20:47:07	@Espyo	but code-wise, a) they'd HAVE to be a bit different, because of the control scheme
2015-01-01 20:47:11	@Espyo	b) a lot of tiny things change
2015-01-01 20:47:19	@Espyo	and then we get stuff like the D-pad trick
2015-01-01 20:47:26	Yoshi2	hmmm
2015-01-01 20:47:39	@Espyo	also, somebody on NPC!'s team messed up something that was right on the GCN
2015-01-01 20:47:55	@Espyo	[[Credits]]
2015-01-01 20:47:56	Testyo	"Credits" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Credits
2015-01-01 20:48:01	@Espyo	check the bottom
2015-01-01 20:51:10	Yoshi2	oh joy
2015-01-01 20:51:19	Yoshi2	I wonder how they messed that up
2015-01-01 20:51:52	@Espyo	you might think it's the other way around
2015-01-01 20:52:00	@Espyo	GCN had it wrong, and Wii fixed it
2015-01-01 20:52:22	@Espyo	I tried Googling "Andy Beaucraft" and "Andrew Beaucraft"
2015-01-01 20:52:24	@Espyo	exactly 0 results
2015-01-01 20:52:33	@Espyo	for "Becraft", I got obvious results pretty quickly
2015-01-01 20:54:44	Yoshi2	must be pretty heartbreaking to see your own name be misspelled like that
2015-01-01 20:54:58	Yoshi2	and the American version, nonetheless
2015-01-01 20:55:19	Yoshi2	on the other hand, it's only the NPC version
2015-01-01 20:57:07	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-01 20:57:13	@Espyo	I'm not sure if European NPC does it
2015-01-01 20:57:25	@Espyo	apparently 100% of the people playing the game on youtube have the US version
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2015-01-01 21:03:22	@Espyo	for Battle Field, it gives me 2 circular rooms and 2 Y-shaped rooms
2015-01-01 21:03:23	@Espyo	every time
2015-01-01 21:04:20	@Espyo	I can't tell if it's using pattern #3, a combination of all patterns, or if it's using the unused vs_1_tsuchi.txt 
2015-01-01 21:07:43	Yoshi2	vs_1_tsuchi is unused?
2015-01-01 21:09:32	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-01 21:09:45	@Espyo	as are all similar files
2015-01-01 21:09:52	@Espyo	except the one used on Dim Labyrinth
2015-01-01 21:10:01	@Espyo	that's the only level that actually uses the file instead of a fixed layout
2015-01-01 21:11:36	Yoshi2	all those files starting with vs_ are unused?
2015-01-01 21:12:23	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-01 21:12:25	@Espyo	again, except DL
2015-01-01 21:12:36	@Espyo	all right, there's a folder on Abe/vs
2015-01-01 21:12:46	@Espyo	I mean, the folder is /user/Abe/vs
2015-01-01 21:12:52	@Espyo	it has the files the game actually uses
2015-01-01 21:13:00	@Espyo	these files are unique, they're a list of units, and the places they go in
2015-01-01 21:13:16	@Espyo	challenge mode and story mode caves use a different type of file
2015-01-01 21:13:25	@Espyo	that just lists the possible cave units and some control points or something
2015-01-01 21:13:32	@Espyo	the 2-P Battle stages have those files too
2015-01-01 21:13:46	@Espyo	but it's clear that they use the static layouts from /user/Abe/vs instead
2015-01-01 21:13:54	@Espyo	they're not random like in-game caves, they're always the same from 1 of 3 layouts
2015-01-01 21:14:07	@Espyo	Dim Labyrinth is the exception, because it's meant to be a crazy maze
2015-01-01 21:14:10	@Espyo	so that one really is random
2015-01-01 21:14:16	@Espyo	but anyway, the files go unused
2015-01-01 21:14:23	@Espyo	...unless this left-d-pad thing uses them
2015-01-01 21:14:32	@Espyo	I can prove it MIGHT use them, but I can't prove it doesn't
2015-01-01 21:14:47	Yoshi2	would some kind of visualization of the files help?
2015-01-01 21:14:59	@Espyo	like, the unused file might list "circle room, room with 6 exits, Y-shaped room" as the list of cave units that can be used
2015-01-01 21:15:08	@Espyo	and in-game, the left function uses 2 circle rooms and 1 Y-shaped room
2015-01-01 21:15:12	@Espyo	but no room with 6 exits
2015-01-01 21:15:20	@Espyo	that doesn't necessarily mean it's NOT using the file
2015-01-01 21:15:34	@Espyo	it could use it, and leave out the 6-exit room because it has a limit of 4 rooms at once
2015-01-01 21:15:47	@Espyo	it would help, but research would help the most
2015-01-01 21:15:48	@Espyo	like
2015-01-01 21:15:53	@Espyo	trying several 2-P Battle levels
2015-01-01 21:15:59	@Espyo	and checking what makes sense and what doesn't
2015-01-01 21:16:07	@Espyo	problem is that some have clearly different cave units
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2015-01-01 21:16:14	@Espyo	others make them all look the exact same
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2015-01-01 21:20:34	@Espyo	all right, so I'm making an article about misconceptions
2015-01-01 21:20:39	@Espyo	and myths, and rumors
2015-01-01 21:20:50	@Espyo	but I'm not sure if it'll ever be anything good, like the mistakes article
2015-01-01 21:21:02	@Espyo	this article is about stuff the fandom believed or believes in, that is wrong
2015-01-01 21:21:09	@Espyo	like how the Pikmin 2 save file is deleted after 300 days
2015-01-01 21:21:39	@Espyo	for one thing, some of it is hard to prove
2015-01-01 21:21:55	@Espyo	like, I can't find an origin for people believing the 300 day limit
2015-01-01 21:22:03	@Espyo	and then, what counts as noteworthy?
2015-01-01 21:22:30	@Espyo	is people calling Wollywogs "frogs" (unknowingly) a misconception?
2015-01-01 21:22:37	@Espyo	how widespread is it?
2015-01-01 21:22:43	@Espyo	plus, I don't have THAT many to begin wtih
2015-01-01 21:22:44	@Espyo	*with
2015-01-01 21:22:53	@Espyo	I didn't have loads to start with on the mistakes article either, but it eventually grew
2015-01-01 21:22:55	@Espyo	but this...
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2015-01-01 21:23:51	@Espyo	http://pastebin.com/VLTdu1fX
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2015-01-01 21:24:00	@Espyo	(top is todos)
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2015-01-01 21:49:01	Miles	DO OTHER SOURCES BESIDES WIKIA CLAIM THAT THERE IS AN IVORY CANDYPOP BUD ON SUBLEVEL 2 OF THE SUBMERGED CASTLE?
2015-01-01 21:49:17	Miles	We have access to the game files, it shouldn't be hard to find out...?
2015-01-01 21:49:39	Yoshi2	in which game?
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2015-01-01 21:51:36	Miles	Oh, I guess you're asking if that's a misconception not if there is one there
2015-01-01 21:51:38	Miles	Never mind
2015-01-01 21:52:02	Miles	Doesn't really seem that important
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2015-01-01 21:56:53	Yoshi2	I haven't played either of the two GC Pikmin games to the end to be able to say which one has a submerged castle
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2015-01-01 22:17:32	Miles	"* In ''[[Pikmin 2]]'', [[ultra-spicy spray]] does not increase the Pikmin's attack ''speed'', only their ''movement'' speed and attack ''[[Health|power]]''."
2015-01-01 22:17:33	Testyo	"Pikmin_2" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_2
2015-01-01 22:17:35	Miles	...What?
2015-01-01 22:17:42	Miles	Thanks Testyo
2015-01-01 22:17:43	Testyo	I'm a fan of global variables
2015-01-01 22:20:13	Miles	So after looking at the Spicy Spray page
2015-01-01 22:20:22	Miles	It lasts 40 seconds. < No, 30
2015-01-01 22:20:47	Miles	They keep carrying fast if the effect wears off while carrying. < This happens because it makes their carrying speed equivalent to flowers, and in Pikmin 3 it outright flowers them
2015-01-01 22:21:21	Miles	In Pikmin 3, however, both the attack speed and damage are increased. < It's exactly the same as Pikmin 2 and sets their attack to 10 (though, that's higher than Winged's 5)
2015-01-01 22:23:05	@Espyo	yeah, it's not that important
2015-01-01 22:23:11	@Espyo	but the article /needs/ content...
2015-01-01 22:23:17	@Espyo	see, this is why I needed some feedback
2015-01-01 22:23:23	@Espyo	a few of the things in there are pretty stretched
2015-01-01 22:23:57	@Espyo	all right, the spray
2015-01-01 22:24:06	Miles	The "The" thing is less a misconception and more that no one cares >_>
2015-01-01 22:24:10	@Espyo	people thought in Pikmin 2 that the spray increased the frequency at which the Pikmin attacked
2015-01-01 22:24:15	@Espyo	true
2015-01-01 22:24:29	@Espyo	anyway, 30 seconds? I could swear I counted
2015-01-01 22:24:35	@Espyo	or maybe just blindly trusted somebody
2015-01-01 22:24:36	@Espyo	wait, which game
2015-01-01 22:24:38	Miles	3
2015-01-01 22:24:48	@Espyo	oh, because I think it's 40 in Pikmin 2
2015-01-01 22:24:56	@Espyo	I'll re-count
2015-01-01 22:24:58	Miles	It's at the top of the page saying "CHECK IF THIS IS THE SAME IN PIKMIN 3"
2015-01-01 22:25:02	Miles	So I'm saying it's not
2015-01-01 22:25:03	@Espyo	OH
2015-01-01 22:25:46	@Espyo	all right then
2015-01-01 22:27:09	@Espyo	>in ''Pikmin 2'', the Pikmin's attack power is not increased &ndash; they deal just as much damage as before, except they do so faster.
2015-01-01 22:27:11	@Espyo	spray article
2015-01-01 22:27:14	@Espyo	great, now I'm confused
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2015-01-01 22:27:52	Miles	It sets attack to 10
2015-01-01 22:27:56	Miles	Roughly doubles the speed
2015-01-01 22:28:06	@Espyo	all right
2015-01-01 22:28:13	@Espyo	what's the normal attack power, again?
2015-01-01 22:28:34	Miles	10 Yellows Blues Whites Bulbmin, 15 Reds, 20 Purples
2015-01-01 22:28:45	@Espyo	oh, purples DO cause more damage in 3
2015-01-01 22:28:46	Miles	In Pikmin 2
2015-01-01 22:28:51	Miles	>_>
2015-01-01 22:28:52	@Espyo	...oh, that's P2
2015-01-01 22:28:55	Miles	In 3 it's
2015-01-01 22:29:30	Miles	5 Whites Wingeds, 10 Yellows Blues, 15 Reds Purples, 20 Rocks (though for most things they don't attack traditionally)
2015-01-01 22:29:41	@Espyo	right
2015-01-01 22:29:46	@Espyo	<Miles> It sets attack to 10
2015-01-01 22:29:46	@Espyo	<Miles> Roughly doubles the speed
2015-01-01 22:29:50	@Espyo	what's that apply to then? P2 or P3?
2015-01-01 22:29:54	Miles	Both
2015-01-01 22:29:58	@Espyo	welp
2015-01-01 22:30:02	@Espyo	that's simple enough
2015-01-01 22:30:34	Miles	Which is why it turns Wingeds into killing machines
2015-01-01 22:30:46	@Espyo	yeah, makes sense...
2015-01-01 22:31:13	@Espyo	yeah, I just made a P2 purple hit a wall, alongside a spicy purple
2015-01-01 22:31:34	@Espyo	that's pretty much how I'd describe it, "roughly doubles"
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2015-01-01 22:35:09	@Espyo	so the current spray article is pretty much a mess, and has some lies
2015-01-01 22:35:11	@Espyo	youch
2015-01-01 22:35:14	@Espyo	thanks for clearing it up, Miles
2015-01-01 22:35:33	@Espyo	I'll take the chance to just add the attack value for every Pikmin type right away, instead of delaying
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2015-01-01 22:39:04	@Espyo	oh pffffftt
2015-01-01 22:39:15	@Espyo	the preview images on the Pikmin 3 area selection screen
2015-01-01 22:39:24	@Espyo	some of them are photos you took on that region
2015-01-01 22:39:59	@Espyo	I was wondering why the area selection screen was showing this https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAACaVCdUBHz8jA
2015-01-01 22:43:03	Miles	http://i.imgur.com/hPMExne.png This is my desktop background
2015-01-01 22:43:42	@Espyo	hah
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2015-01-01 22:52:31	@Espyo	hmmmm
2015-01-01 22:52:33	@Espyo	so I just checked
2015-01-01 22:52:37	@Espyo	spicies drown faster
2015-01-01 22:52:43	@Espyo	but they don't burn up any faster than non-spicies
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2015-01-01 23:42:00	@Espyo	oh wow
2015-01-01 23:42:01	@Espyo	nice
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2015-01-01 23:59:50	@Espyo	there are few things better at raising your morale than somebody giving support
2015-01-01 23:59:54	@Espyo	I instantly felt like working on the engine
2015-01-02 00:00:00	@Espyo	...but it's midnight, so I have to go sleep
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2015-01-02 00:06:54	@Espyo	Miles: before I go, just answer me this real qiuck
2015-01-02 00:06:56	@Espyo	*quick
2015-01-02 00:07:01	@Espyo	Wingeds have an attack of 5
2015-01-02 00:07:08	@Espyo	is this airborne, groundborne, or both?
2015-01-02 00:07:16	@Espyo	I mean, for airborne or groundborne enemies
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2015-01-02 19:40:53	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-02 19:42:04	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-02 19:42:05	Testyo	I should write a bot to play the only case afaik
2015-01-02 19:57:39	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-02 19:57:40	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-02 20:06:15	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Dead Den by Wraith (+2 /* Floor Maps */ ) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Dead_Den&curid=6672&diff=47590&oldid=39234
2015-01-02 20:06:15	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Dead Den by Wraith (0 /* Floor 3 (FINAL FLOOR) */ ) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Dead_Den&curid=6672&diff=47591&oldid=47590
2015-01-02 20:11:37	@Espyo	dead den redemption
2015-01-02 20:26:29	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Topic:Pikmin Engine by Es... by Espyo (+1952) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Topic:Pikmin_Engine_by_Espyo&curid=7853&diff=47592&oldid=47589
2015-01-02 20:33:09	Yoshi2	it suprises me sometimes how difficult programming can be
2015-01-02 20:37:55	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-02 20:38:54	Yoshi2	implementing permutations in Haskell is a lot of fun
2015-01-02 20:39:04	Yoshi2	and I'm not allowed to use built-in functions
2015-01-02 20:41:15	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-02 20:43:58	Miles	Always 5
2015-01-02 20:46:38	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Physicberry created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Physicberry
2015-01-02 20:47:35	@Espyo	so are the enemies just hardcoded to be taken down more easily by wingeds?
2015-01-02 20:47:44	@Espyo	or is it just people's impressions that wingeds are stronger against flying enemies?
2015-01-02 21:04:42	@J	.
2015-01-02 21:04:48	@J	Haskell is fun in general
2015-01-02 21:11:55	@Espyo	oh, there you are
2015-01-02 21:11:59	@Espyo	were you away for christmas and new year?
2015-01-02 21:12:04	@Espyo	also, hi
2015-01-02 21:12:18	@J	yep, I was away
2015-01-02 21:12:43	@J	could've come here sometimes really, but taking a break from everything is good
2015-01-02 21:13:04	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-02 21:20:32	@J	say something so I can screenshot a thing
2015-01-02 21:20:44	Yoshi2	haskell is actually quite fun to use in some cases
2015-01-02 21:22:43	@J	http://i.imgur.com/J7BYoG0.png
2015-01-02 21:22:58	@J	I finally got around to setting up a panel to match my window manager
2015-01-02 21:23:06	@J	I think it's quite nice
2015-01-02 21:23:40	@J	it only shows 'urgent' windows, even if they're on another desktop
2015-01-02 21:23:55	@J	since with a tiling window manager, you can see all the windows on the current desktop, so there's no need for a list
2015-01-02 21:28:35	@J	http://i.imgur.com/NIZYy2g.png
2015-01-02 21:28:42	@J	I also started a batch file renamer
2015-01-02 21:28:49	@J	since all the ones out there are poor and inflexible
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2015-01-02 21:34:50	Miles	I've never seen anyone who thought Wingeds were stronger on flying enemies...
2015-01-02 21:35:23	Miles	Just that Wingeds allow for swarming and more lenient aiming
2015-01-02 21:47:20	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pellet Posy by Physicberry (-2 m /* Pikmin 1 */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pellet_Posy&curid=1294&diff=143853&oldid=124239
2015-01-02 21:49:49	Yoshi2	I always assumed that winged Pikmin were more effective against flying enemies than other Pikmin, but I never thought about it in terms of damage
2015-01-02 21:54:40	@Espyo	I also never really FELT it
2015-01-02 21:54:44	@Espyo	but I've seen everybody say it
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2015-01-02 21:59:44	Wraith64	Good evening, testyo.
2015-01-02 21:59:45	Testyo	I like medicine
2015-01-02 22:00:07	Wraith64	Espyo, how do you do?
2015-01-02 22:00:14	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-02 22:00:22	@Espyo	hah, Testyo
2015-01-02 22:00:23	Testyo	I'd zoom in to find all the different files in that huge 1300-long conflict list
2015-01-02 22:00:56	@J	hey
2015-01-02 22:01:02	Wraith64	hello
2015-01-02 22:01:14	@Espyo	so, any luck with the area editor?
2015-01-02 22:01:28	Wraith64	Well, simply put, no. 
2015-01-02 22:01:43	@Espyo	darn
2015-01-02 22:01:55	@Espyo	I might as well just give you a fixed .exe that I know works — my current version
2015-01-02 22:01:59	Wraith64	But I haven't been focused on /that/ quite yet. I made a youtube video to 'spread the word'.
2015-01-02 22:02:32	@Espyo	ah, great
2015-01-02 22:02:37	@Espyo	thanks
2015-01-02 22:02:47	@Espyo	I'm not gonna lie, one of the biggest hurdles I have to face on the engine is motivation
2015-01-02 22:02:55	@Espyo	I feel like there's a lot of love for the project, but...
2015-01-02 22:03:02	@Espyo	it's only from around 4 or 5 Pikmin
2015-01-02 22:03:16	@Espyo	so every time some extra positive feedback comes, like yours, it fills me up with motivation
2015-01-02 22:03:59	Wraith64	no problem, and I completely understand. I cannot begin to list the veritable buttones of projects I have began and never finished, due to lack of motivation. 
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2015-01-02 22:04:32	@Espyo	it's really harsh, isn't it...
2015-01-02 22:04:34	@Espyo	ah, you found it, Ryen
2015-01-02 22:04:44	ryenlee	hehehe yep
2015-01-02 22:04:47	@Espyo	easy as that
2015-01-02 22:04:52	ryenlee	Pleasure to meet you Testyo
2015-01-02 22:04:52	Testyo	I think we could finally get the wiki to the standard that's been sought after for a long time now
2015-01-02 22:04:54	@Espyo	anybody can join, that's why it's so convenient
2015-01-02 22:04:56	ryenlee	very easy
2015-01-02 22:05:04	Wraith64	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJOtZ9QQ6-Q&feature=youtu.be
2015-01-02 22:05:08	Wraith64	here we go.
2015-01-02 22:05:33	@Espyo	too bad the gameplay is still a bit buggy...
2015-01-02 22:05:36	@Espyo	but it should raise interest
2015-01-02 22:05:38	@Espyo	thanks for doing this
2015-01-02 22:05:48	@Espyo	uhm, the leaders weren't meant to be tossed up there
2015-01-02 22:05:54	@Espyo	it was supposed to be taller than that...
2015-01-02 22:05:54	@Espyo	oops
2015-01-02 22:06:15	Wraith64	no problem, also, I was trying to use all things to my capabilities to complete the area before the timer 'ran' out
2015-01-02 22:06:21	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-02 22:06:27	@Espyo	you can press T to advance the time by 1 hour
2015-01-02 22:06:32	@Espyo	and it loops back to morning
2015-01-02 22:06:36	@Espyo	...but T also kills a Pikmin
2015-01-02 22:06:42	@Espyo	T is my general testing key, for debugging
2015-01-02 22:06:44	Wraith64	Holding it down produced horrid result.
2015-01-02 22:06:57	@Espyo	hehe, it should
2015-01-02 22:07:05	@Espyo	hmm... seeing the engine being played, with music...
2015-01-02 22:07:11	@Espyo	it really makes me feel the final product in my head
2015-01-02 22:07:14	@Espyo	imagining something good
2015-01-02 22:07:18	Yoshi2	ohh, the engine looks even better in motion
2015-01-02 22:07:36	@Espyo	anyway, the motivation thing?
2015-01-02 22:07:43	@Espyo	it got me to actually kind of do something about it today
2015-01-02 22:07:50	@Espyo	I won't continue work on it for a few more days
2015-01-02 22:07:58	@Espyo	I have to finish some things on Pikipedia before I can relax
2015-01-02 22:08:02	@Espyo	but today was a slow day at work
2015-01-02 22:08:09	@Espyo	so I took the time to try to re-think the enemy AI
2015-01-02 22:08:17	ryenlee	the game looks awesome^^
2015-01-02 22:08:31	@Espyo	thanks!
2015-01-02 22:08:50	@Espyo	technically, the old AI was using an event-system
2015-01-02 22:09:41	@Espyo	now I'm thinking of making it an event-driven state machine
2015-01-02 22:09:49	@Espyo	...let's see how that turns out
2015-01-02 22:10:01	@Espyo	never imagined the AI to be THAT complicated to implement
2015-01-02 22:10:35	Wraith64	so instead of walking straight towards you, it would update its tracking in ticks, like updates over time? (complete guess here)
2015-01-02 22:11:00	Yoshi2	well, there must be a reason why most games don't have a very intelligent AI
2015-01-02 22:11:01	@Espyo	that part wouldn't change much
2015-01-02 22:11:09	@Espyo	in fact, most things wouldn't change...
2015-01-02 22:11:13	@Espyo	ideally, the current system would work fine
2015-01-02 22:11:16	@Espyo	except... it just doesn't
2015-01-02 22:11:18	@Espyo	and I can't figure out why
2015-01-02 22:11:23	@Espyo	so the best idea is probably to re-write it
2015-01-02 22:11:29	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> well, there must be a reason why most games don't have a very intelligent AI
2015-01-02 22:11:34	@Espyo	mhm, that, and processing cost
2015-01-02 22:12:19	Wraith64	happy to report that my pc can handle the demo many many times over
2015-01-02 22:12:25	Wraith64	i
2015-01-02 22:12:32	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Iridescent Flint Beetle by Physicberry (+22 /* Pikmin 3 */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Iridescent_Flint_Beetle&curid=922&diff=143854&oldid=143800
2015-01-02 22:12:57	Wraith64	*will have to make a video showing just how many instances i can run without framelag
2015-01-02 22:13:58	Wraith64	Also, Espyo, I hope you accept the text at the end of my video, I intended for it to inform viewers about the project.
2015-01-02 22:14:06	@Espyo	I do, yeah
2015-01-02 22:14:08	@Espyo	oh, that reminds me
2015-01-02 22:14:14	@Espyo	Wraith64: try pressing F1 during the game
2015-01-02 22:14:18	@Espyo	to see if a framerate counter pops up
2015-01-02 22:14:25	@Espyo	although... I probably don't even need to check the framerate
2015-01-02 22:14:35	@Espyo	if you were able to record footage, and it ended that smoothly, then yes, it runs REALLY well
2015-01-02 22:14:41	@Espyo	I've been stressing out a lot over performance
2015-01-02 22:14:58	@Espyo	but I can't tell if the game runs smooth regardless, or if it's because I stressed out and went insane with optimizations
2015-01-02 22:15:08	Yoshi2	the footage being smooth is definitely a good sign
2015-01-02 22:15:13	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-02 22:15:35	Wraith64	I have a high-end gaming pc, however. A buddy of mine built it a couple years ago. 
2015-01-02 22:15:47	@Espyo	ah, that explains it
2015-01-02 22:15:56	@Espyo	still, mine isn't very high-end, and it can run the engine at ~120FPS
2015-01-02 22:16:45	Wraith64	Its got an NVIDIA GTX 570, which was released a few years ago, so its pretty outdated. But im happy to run the engine! I wish I could open the area editor (although that has nothing to do with the gpu)
2015-01-02 22:17:05	@Espyo	I'll compile the latest code I have and send you the .exe
2015-01-02 22:17:15	@Espyo	now we just wait 8 years for visual studio to load...
2015-01-02 22:17:22	Wraith64	appreciate it. haha
2015-01-02 22:17:24	@Espyo	speaking of things taking years to load...
2015-01-02 22:17:28	Yoshi2	I could try to run it too, I'm currently on a notebook that does not have a dedicated GPU
2015-01-02 22:17:42	@Espyo	J: GIMP, from a cold boot, takes about 6 seconds to open on my work laptop (Ubuntu)
2015-01-02 22:17:57	@Espyo	so it's either my PC that doesn't like GIMP, or the windows version of GIMP is just poorly optimized at boot-time
2015-01-02 22:18:01	Yoshi2	6 seconds sounds actually good
2015-01-02 22:18:06	@Espyo	all right, appreciate it, Yoshi2
2015-01-02 22:18:08	@Espyo	yeah, it is  very good
2015-01-02 22:18:15	@Espyo	considering that on this PC it takes around 30 seconds on a cold boot
2015-01-02 22:18:20	@Espyo	 15 or so warm
2015-01-02 22:18:21	Yoshi2	on my PC GIMP would take tons of time too
2015-01-02 22:18:57	Wraith64	yikes, 13 seconds, looks like I need a better processor.. I've been meaning to upgrade..
2015-01-02 22:19:15	Wraith64	but a warm boot, 3 seconds!
2015-01-02 22:19:18	@Espyo	nice
2015-01-02 22:19:22	Wraith64	I will not complain!
2015-01-02 22:19:38	@Espyo	Wraith, I can't remember if it was you, but were you the one that was reluctant about coming to the IRC because you were afraid people'd swear?
2015-01-02 22:19:43	@Espyo	I know somebody from fanon is like that
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2015-01-02 22:20:33	Wraith64	mmm, no, I don't mind that. I don't usually talk that way unless i am in the company of my close friends, but i personally am okay with it. 
2015-01-02 22:20:40	Wraith64	I think pikfan, perhaps?
2015-01-02 22:20:46	Yoshi2	my Windows starts up in less than 10 seconds, that's why I love SSDs
2015-01-02 22:21:05	Wraith64	I haven't been on Pikmin Fanon in a while, though, so I can't remember.
2015-01-02 22:21:15	Wraith64	Also SSD, nice! 
2015-01-02 22:21:45	Yoshi2	I specifically wanted a notebook with an SSD, it was a very long search
2015-01-02 22:21:46	@Espyo	no, PikFan comes around
2015-01-02 22:21:58	@Espyo	we don't usually swear here, but we have no real limits about it
2015-01-02 22:22:07	@Espyo	just the usual rules: don't be annoying, don't harass
2015-01-02 22:22:17	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> my Windows starts up in less than 10 seconds
2015-01-02 22:22:19	Wraith64	hm, perhaps the seemingly young users, like peach bulborb
2015-01-02 22:22:20	@Espyo	reading this makes me sad
2015-01-02 22:22:23	@Espyo	mine takes WAY over 5 minutes
2015-01-02 22:22:28	@Espyo	ah, I think it was PB, yeah
2015-01-02 22:22:45	Yoshi2	5 minutes? That's quite a lot
2015-01-02 22:22:52	@Espyo	to be ready, at least
2015-01-02 22:22:59	@Espyo	the desktop appears after around 2 minutes
2015-01-02 22:23:03	@Espyo	but only after 5 am I ready to use it
2015-01-02 22:23:09	@Espyo	granted, Dropbox takes a minute to sync
2015-01-02 22:23:12	@Espyo	which is ridiculous
2015-01-02 22:23:17	Wraith64	Understandable. I too had a time where certain words made me flinch. But now I realized that its arbitrary. Linguistics is linguistics. 
2015-01-02 22:23:21	Yoshi2	hmmm
2015-01-02 22:23:23	@Espyo	can't it just check if I made any change since yesterday, and if not, skip the synching? eesh
2015-01-02 22:23:37	Yoshi2	I've never timed how long it would take for the desktop to be ready
2015-01-02 22:23:39	@Espyo	yeah, to me, words are just words
2015-01-02 22:23:45	@Espyo	if they carry meaning, that's a different thing
2015-01-02 22:23:53	Yoshi2	but I think I'm already on the desktop after a minute
2015-01-02 22:23:53	@Espyo	but when people swear, they normally don't mean anything
2015-01-02 22:24:01	Wraith64	Yup.
2015-01-02 22:24:49	Wraith64	On an almost related note: I seem to be getting the default mediawiki skin a lot on Pikmin Fanon, does that happen to anyone else on Pikipedia?
2015-01-02 22:25:49	@Espyo	not on Pikipedia
2015-01-02 22:25:54	@Espyo	but it happens to me and PikFan, when we go on fanon
2015-01-02 22:26:00	@Espyo	we have to discuss this with Porple...
2015-01-02 22:27:39	@J	[22:17:57] @Espyo so it's either my PC that doesn't like GIMP, or the windows version of GIMP is just poorly optimized at boot-time
2015-01-02 22:27:42	@J	probably Windows itself
2015-01-02 22:27:45	@J	NTFS is slow
2015-01-02 22:27:56	@Espyo	hm, yeah
2015-01-02 22:29:56	Wraith64	I'm gonna post the video to reddit, /r/pikmin and possibly /r/nintendo. Hopefully getting the word out will not only generate buzz, but keep you invested.
2015-01-02 22:31:48	@Espyo	all right
2015-01-02 22:34:26	@Espyo	took it 4 minutes to build... how weird
2015-01-02 22:34:59	@Espyo	oh, might've been because Dropbox was being nosy and trying to synch while it was compiling
2015-01-02 22:35:31	@Espyo	Wraith64: here you go https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/crash%20fix.zip
2015-01-02 22:35:34	@Espyo	now, that SHOULD fix it
2015-01-02 22:35:39	@Espyo	if it doesn't, that means it's a new problem
2015-01-02 22:37:05	Wraith64	It worked!
2015-01-02 22:37:31	@Espyo	nice
2015-01-02 22:37:37	@Espyo	the editor should work
2015-01-02 22:37:48	Wraith64	also, you might want to add the batch files to your official build, just as a courtesy to those who test it. perhaps making it easier to access will make more people play it
2015-01-02 22:37:48	@Espyo	but I discovered another crash on it, when I tried to do something
2015-01-02 22:37:52	@Espyo	so it's probably not super safe right now
2015-01-02 22:37:57	@Espyo	yeah, you're absolutely right
2015-01-02 22:38:04	@Espyo	I have to remember to do so
2015-01-02 22:38:40	Wraith64	IF you have a reddit account, and you'd like to generate bug testers, posting the info here is a good help - http://www.reddit.com/r/playmygame
2015-01-02 22:38:43	@Espyo	although if everything goes right, there'll be menus to access these in just a few weeks
2015-01-02 22:38:50	@Espyo	hm, nice
2015-01-02 22:38:51	@Espyo	and yeah, I do
2015-01-02 22:38:58	@Espyo	I'll also post on /r/gamedev one of these days
2015-01-02 22:39:00	@Espyo	but to be honest
2015-01-02 22:39:05	@Espyo	I'd prefer if the project was a bit more mature
2015-01-02 22:39:14	@Espyo	you know some people like to judge alpha things as if they're final
2015-01-02 22:39:27	Wraith64	There are a decent enough people on there to make a few testers, they provide feedback on the bugs. And I understand, its still pretty early.
2015-01-02 22:39:59	Yoshi2	hmm, the game seems to run at no higher than 30 fps
2015-01-02 22:40:06	Wraith64	I can only agree, as I have judged DayZ on its alpha, and given up on it. Starbound im nearing giving that up too, although its in beta 
2015-01-02 22:40:11	Wraith64	Options.txt
2015-01-02 22:40:27	Wraith64	If you put the frame limit higher it can run higher i believe
2015-01-02 22:40:37	@Espyo	Yoshi2: there's an actual cap
2015-01-02 22:40:40	@Espyo	you can disable it--
2015-01-02 22:40:43	@Espyo	yeah, what Wraith said
2015-01-02 22:40:46	Wraith64	it says fps=30
2015-01-02 22:40:46	Yoshi2	I see
2015-01-02 22:43:02	Wraith64	also, i'd like to inquire, is the sun timer always starting at the 1/4 past postition?
2015-01-02 22:43:10	Wraith64	it seems that way to me
2015-01-02 22:43:21	@Espyo	uh...
2015-01-02 22:43:27	@Espyo	I think that's something I started testing months ago
2015-01-02 22:43:33	@Espyo	and forgot to put back to midday
2015-01-02 22:43:38	@Espyo	*to 7 AM
2015-01-02 22:43:38	@Espyo	my bad
2015-01-02 22:44:06	Yoshi2	the game does run fairly well at 60 fps here
2015-01-02 22:44:18	Yoshi2	I guess it does not need a particulary strong GPU
2015-01-02 22:45:16	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-02 22:45:26	@Espyo	one of the biggest jaw-dropping frights I had was with strings
2015-01-02 22:45:33	@Espyo	(text)
2015-01-02 22:45:35	Wraith64	well good, then, it seems that your stress over the performance has resulted in better optimization then you thought
2015-01-02 22:45:47	@Espyo	like, each mob (object) has a list of animations
2015-01-02 22:45:53	@Espyo	and they're named: idle, walk, etc.
2015-01-02 22:46:10	@Espyo	and every single game tick, the game was checking each animation of each mob, to know what to do
2015-01-02 22:46:16	@Espyo	and that's a lot of strings
2015-01-02 22:46:23	@Espyo	if a mob has 10 animations, that's 10 strings per mob
2015-01-02 22:46:32	@Espyo	and there can be way more than 100 mobs (100 Pikmin at least)
2015-01-02 22:46:36	@Espyo	so at least 1000 strings
2015-01-02 22:46:41	Wraith64	that would absolutely tank everything D:
2015-01-02 22:46:43	@Espyo	per tick, at 30FPS, would be 30000 strings
2015-01-02 22:46:50	@Espyo	and to top it all off... C++ HATES strings
2015-01-02 22:47:04	@Espyo	it decreased the framerate to around 20, max
2015-01-02 22:47:13	@Espyo	then I had to make some walk-around code so that it checked numbers instead
2015-01-02 22:47:27	@Espyo	now I'm a lot more relieved about performance
2015-01-02 22:47:37	@Espyo	specially after pretty much everybody who tested it reported 60+FPS no problem
2015-01-02 22:47:43	@Espyo	but I can't always stay relaxed
2015-01-02 22:47:47	@Espyo	the engine will grow and become more comple
2015-01-02 22:47:48	@Espyo	*x
2015-01-02 22:47:54	@Espyo	and in the future, I WILL want to have it optimized...
2015-01-02 22:47:58	@Espyo	and I'll thank myself now
2015-01-02 22:48:35	Yoshi2	it is definitely noticeable that the engine is still in development
2015-01-02 22:49:03	Wraith64	Yes, but with the stage editor, I already am considering this fantastic. I can see the potential. Please, reggie based god, don
2015-01-02 22:49:09	Wraith64	don't banhammer us
2015-01-02 22:49:15	@Espyo	lol
2015-01-02 22:49:20	@Espyo	yeah... I'm really terrified of that...
2015-01-02 22:49:21	Yoshi2	I've had pikmin stand in a single spot and not move, and one of the monsters would stop dead in its tracks and not do anything
2015-01-02 22:49:30	@Espyo	but then... I look back at so many other fan games that are just fine
2015-01-02 22:49:39	@Espyo	and then I look at how DOLPHIN is still alive and progressing
2015-01-02 22:49:43	@Espyo	and I'm like "nope, the engine is safe"
2015-01-02 22:49:52	@Espyo	Yoshi2: yeah... poor AI
2015-01-02 22:51:11	Wraith64	and there are hundreds of other fan projects for nintendo to target, for larger series no less. As long as we keep this thing private, non for profit, the engine will thrive, dolphin's success as a testament.
2015-01-02 22:53:11	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-02 22:53:29	Yoshi2	there is definitely an element of luck (or bad luck) involved in this
2015-01-02 22:53:41	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-02 22:53:46	@Espyo	at least it's not SEGA
2015-01-02 22:53:51	@Espyo	plus, there's still another ace in the sleeve
2015-01-02 22:53:58	@Espyo	if we get shut down, I'll just "accidentally" leak the game
2015-01-02 22:53:59	@Espyo	oooooops
2015-01-02 22:54:16	@Espyo	it's what Streets of Rage Remake
2015-01-02 22:54:16	Wraith64	heh
2015-01-02 22:54:27	@Espyo	uhm, it's what the devs of Streets of Rage Remake did
2015-01-02 22:54:41	@Espyo	I butchered the sentence
2015-01-02 22:54:53	Wraith64	if worst comes to worst, nothing like mailing around CDs
2015-01-02 22:54:56	Wraith64	:P
2015-01-02 22:55:20	@Espyo	hah
2015-01-02 22:55:42	Wraith64	lest nintendo and the US postal service coordinate, now that'd be something. I ordered a thing from nintendo and its sloow.
2015-01-02 22:57:51	@Espyo	hmmm
2015-01-02 22:57:54	@Espyo	Club Nintendo?
2015-01-02 22:58:18	Wraith64	Admittedly i am speaking of the Wii U gamecube controller adapters. also, I am about to go. It has been fun chatting, all. this engine has at least renewed my interest in my wiki, so that's good.
2015-01-02 22:59:12	Wraith64	they kinda screwed the manufacturing and the shipping and everything. I just want to play sm4sh efficiently.
2015-01-02 22:59:42	Wraith64	but it will come! Anyways, i'll talk to you later, espyo. Love the latest build.
2015-01-02 23:00:14	@Espyo	see ya
2015-01-02 23:00:16	@Espyo	thanks
2015-01-02 23:02:43	Yoshi2	see you
2015-01-02 23:16:18	@J	bye /late
2015-01-02 23:17:13	Yoshi2	well, I actually managed to implement permutations successfully
2015-01-02 23:17:22	Yoshi2	https://gist.github.com/RenolY2/835c7f515cebfad7b93d
2015-01-02 23:17:43	@Espyo	I understand nothing of that
2015-01-02 23:17:47	@Espyo	I probably could if I wanted to
2015-01-02 23:18:48	 *	RingtailedFox wishes he could afford wii u gamecube controllers >.>
2015-01-02 23:18:55	RingtailedFox	and a wii u ;p
2015-01-02 23:19:36	Yoshi2	Espyo: give me a week, and I will forget how I was able to write that piece of code
2015-01-02 23:20:58	Yoshi2	RingtailedFox: if you have a GC or a Wii, you could use the money you save by not buying a Wii U to buy GC controllers 
2015-01-02 23:21:11	Yoshi2	though that is probably not what you want to do, is it? :p
2015-01-02 23:29:24	RingtailedFox	well, i'd love to get smash bros. for wii u too :P
2015-01-02 23:30:53	Yoshi2	fair enough, I'm still waiting for the GC adapter to be back in stock, so I don't have SSB Wii U either 
2015-01-02 23:32:00	Testyo	you know there are no pre-requisites Brittany's European version of the notes
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2015-01-03 00:02:31	UltraMario	...
2015-01-03 00:07:31	@Espyo	not even a minute
2015-01-03 00:07:53	UltraMario	nope
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2015-01-03 11:10:29	UltraMario	:(
2015-01-03 11:10:33	UltraMario	sorry mariostar...
2015-01-03 11:11:05	UltraMario	hey Yoshi2, do you know how to contact him? I was afk and didn't see his message
2015-01-03 11:11:06	UltraMario	:(
2015-01-03 11:11:50	UltraMario	I don't think I'm a member here, so I go on his talkpage
2015-01-03 11:11:57	Yoshi2	UltraMario: besides IRC, I don't have any other way to contact him myself
2015-01-03 11:12:59	UltraMario	oh no
2015-01-03 11:13:04	UltraMario	is he not a member here even
2015-01-03 11:13:12	UltraMario	Idk if he'll come back. :/
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2015-01-03 11:13:56	Yoshi2	..
2015-01-03 11:14:09	Yoshi2	that is quite odd
2015-01-03 11:15:22	UltraMario	DAMNIT
2015-01-03 11:15:30	UltraMario	;-;
2015-01-03 11:15:44	Yoshi2	don't blame yourself
2015-01-03 11:16:04	Yoshi2	nobody could possibly react in those 12 seconds that mariostar was on
2015-01-03 11:16:18	UltraMario	heh
2015-01-03 11:41:33	UltraMario	yoshi2 if he comes back tell me
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2015-01-03 11:56:54	Testyo	Good morning everyone!
2015-01-03 11:57:31	Miles	Oh no it's Testyo
2015-01-03 11:57:32	Testyo	nice, enjoy the FA box always have a tooltip?
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2015-01-03 11:58:10	UltraMario	hi
2015-01-03 11:58:13	UltraMario	lol
2015-01-03 11:58:50	Miles	I'm leaving for AGDQ in 6 hours
2015-01-03 11:58:51	Miles	Yay
2015-01-03 12:03:41	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-03 12:03:46	@Espyo	all right, best of luck, Miles
2015-01-03 12:03:56	@Espyo	I'll try to follow... but I probably won't be able to
2015-01-03 12:21:29	Miles	It's a shame you've been so ill lately
2015-01-03 12:21:37	Miles	You may have to stay home sick next week
2015-01-03 12:27:18	@Espyo	but I haven't been-- I feel really sick right now
2015-01-03 12:27:28	@Espyo	it'll "ache" me, but I'll stay home
2015-01-03 12:27:39	@Espyo	I won't be able to move my mouse, so my only option is watching some sort of video...
2015-01-03 12:55:36	@Espyo	so I check my subscriptions
2015-01-03 12:55:44	@Espyo	notice something, and say to myself
2015-01-03 12:55:53	@Espyo	"why is everybody posting Metroid Prime videos late--"
2015-01-03 12:55:55	@Espyo	"oh, RIGHT"
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2015-01-03 13:17:34	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User account Lolli LP created http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User:Lolli_LP
2015-01-03 13:17:54	@J	Espyo: people needed Testyo for PMs while you were away
2015-01-03 13:17:55	Testyo	no wonder I confused you — this isn't what I fear that Fanon will turn to dust
2015-01-03 13:18:00	@J	when do we get persistent Testyo
2015-01-03 13:18:01	Testyo	I wonder what the 'only run stuff you're looking at' code
2015-01-03 13:19:25	@Espyo	probably never
2015-01-03 13:19:29	@Espyo	maybe when I have my own palce
2015-01-03 13:19:30	@Espyo	*place
2015-01-03 13:19:37	@Espyo	doesn't memoserv exist here?
2015-01-03 13:19:43	@Espyo	it does
2015-01-03 13:20:07	@J	but no-one knows it
2015-01-03 13:21:32	@Espyo	yeah...
2015-01-03 13:21:37	@Espyo	I think PikFan does, though
2015-01-03 13:21:43	@Espyo	anything for me that you can relay?
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2015-01-03 13:49:10	@J	no, just UltraMario trying to contact Mariostar
2015-01-03 13:49:22	UltraMario	hi
2015-01-03 13:49:25	@J	oh
2015-01-03 13:49:29	@J	hello
2015-01-03 13:49:33	UltraMario	guys I found the best Star Fox game
2015-01-03 13:49:34	UltraMario	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/StarFox2600box.jpg
2015-01-03 13:49:34	UltraMario	:3
2015-01-03 13:50:05	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-03 13:50:13	@Espyo	heh, nice
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2015-01-03 16:30:16	@Espyo	http://www.idinews.com/quasiClass.pdf all right, see, this guy gets it
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2015-01-03 16:40:03	Yoshi2	"March, 1998"
2015-01-03 16:40:33	Yoshi2	so everything that is wrong with the language was already known more than 15 years ago?
2015-01-03 16:41:22	@Espyo	apparently
2015-01-03 16:52:05	Yoshi2	I definitely find it silly to create getters/setters for every single variable in a class, and I prefer to avoid doing that unless absolutely necessary
2015-01-03 16:52:13	@Espyo	same here
2015-01-03 16:52:28	@Espyo	there is SOME merit to using a setter, for like when you want to limit the values to which it can be set
2015-01-03 16:52:34	@Espyo	but otherwise, it just makes the code look stupid
2015-01-03 16:52:41	Yoshi2	indeed
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2015-01-03 17:34:50	Miles_atAGDQ	Let's see if this actually stays connected for the next 8 days
2015-01-03 17:34:56	Miles_atAGDQ	(don't kick me please)
2015-01-03 17:36:32	@Espyo	let's hope
2015-01-03 17:41:13	@J	only when you least expect it
2015-01-03 17:42:40	Yoshi2	as long as there are no netsplits and your connection is stable, you should be fine
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2015-01-03 18:31:15	@Espyo	so I'm just browsing GameFaqs' Pikmin 2 board in hopes of finding some more rumors and such
2015-01-03 18:31:26	@Espyo	and... http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/589374-pikmin-2/43178444#3
2015-01-03 18:46:51	@J	what
2015-01-03 18:47:58	@J	that was many years ago
2015-01-03 18:53:24	@Espyo	yep
2015-01-03 18:53:26	@Espyo	but it still happened
2015-01-03 19:19:38	Yoshi2	good to know that somebody bought pikmin merchandise, and that others are jealous of that
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2015-01-03 19:34:23	@Espyo	no, I mean GP's post
2015-01-03 19:34:30	@Espyo	child GP
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2015-01-03 19:39:48	Yoshi2	ah, I don't know that person so I guess I missed that
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2015-01-03 19:41:20	Yoshi2	I know two forums that still house all the posts I made many years ago
2015-01-03 19:42:12	Yoshi2	I'm not sure if I would be able to look at them
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2015-01-03 19:47:49	WikiGuest	Hi I really like PIkmin
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2015-01-03 19:50:23	@Espyo	hi 1-minuter
2015-01-03 19:50:28	Yoshi2	good to know
2015-01-03 19:50:42	@Espyo	Yoshi2: yes you know that person
2015-01-03 19:50:47	@Espyo	Greenpickle = J
2015-01-03 19:50:53	Yoshi2	oh
2015-01-03 19:51:09	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-03 19:51:11	Yoshi2	good to know
2015-01-03 19:51:38	Yoshi2	in one of the first forums I was involved in, I liked Luigi very much
2015-01-03 19:51:42	@J	you didn't know?
2015-01-03 19:51:43	@J	shocking
2015-01-03 19:52:32	Yoshi2	you learn something new every day
2015-01-03 19:54:57	@Espyo	he's not much of a wiki-goer, remember
2015-01-03 19:55:01	@Espyo	so no wonder he doesn't know
2015-01-03 19:55:21	UltraMario	...
2015-01-03 19:55:31	UltraMario	lol i love 1-minuters
2015-01-03 19:55:40	UltraMario	always have nothing productive to say :P
2015-01-03 19:56:48	Yoshi2	close to 99% of those happen to use some form of webchat
2015-01-03 19:57:10	Yoshi2	at least in my experience
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2015-01-03 22:03:26	Testyo	also, Orteil said he's going these newfangled stereojacks
2015-01-03 22:04:58	UltraMario	lol
2015-01-03 22:07:11	Yoshi2	I almost wanted to ask "who is Orteil?" and "what newfangled stereojacks?"
2015-01-03 22:07:20	UltraMario	heh
2015-01-03 22:07:33	Yoshi2	didn't notice that it was Testyo who sent the message
2015-01-03 22:07:34	Testyo	*no, I think it happened on other websites
2015-01-03 22:07:51	UltraMario	lol
2015-01-03 22:07:56	Yoshi2	that might be a sign that I should probably take a nap
2015-01-03 22:08:18	UltraMario	aw, you don't have to :P
2015-01-03 22:16:52	@Espyo	hehe
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2015-01-04 02:00:46	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User account Bunniesbunnybunnies created http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User:Bunniesbunnybunnies
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2015-01-04 02:27:08	@Espyo	yep
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2015-01-04 03:24:32	Bunniesbunnybunnies	...
2015-01-04 03:24:34	Bunniesbunnybunnies	...
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2015-01-04 12:05:08	Testyo	Good afternoon everyone!
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2015-01-04 15:10:31	Testyo	yaaas hmm
2015-01-04 15:11:03	Yoshi2_	Testyo: lm
2015-01-04 15:11:04	Testyo	I said yaaas hmm because it was a timed random message. This random message came from the messages yaaas and hmm.
2015-01-04 15:11:18	Yoshi2_	hmm, yaaas indeed
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2015-01-04 17:18:33	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-04 17:19:10	Prezintenden	heyo
2015-01-04 17:19:25	Yoshi2_	good day
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2015-01-04 17:28:52	@J	I thought of a horrible pun name for my file renamer: farragone
2015-01-04 17:29:19	@J	where a farrago is a 'confused mass of objects or people; disordered mixture'
2015-01-04 17:31:34	@Espyo	hmmmmmmmmmm
2015-01-04 17:31:38	@Espyo	that is pretty horrible and apt
2015-01-04 17:32:23	@J	yes
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2015-01-04 17:48:59	Wraith64_Z	yo, test, my man!
2015-01-04 17:49:21	Wraith64_Z	Espyo, greetings.
2015-01-04 17:49:34	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-04 17:50:25	Wraith64_Z	so I did not expect the youtube video to get 1,056 views and 24 likes!
2015-01-04 17:50:35	@Espyo	wait, WHAt
2015-01-04 17:50:36	@Espyo	are you joking
2015-01-04 17:50:40	@Espyo	a thousand?!
2015-01-04 17:51:03	Wraith64_Z	not joking! haha
2015-01-04 17:51:07	@Espyo	...wow
2015-01-04 17:51:35	@Espyo	well, if that's not motivating, I don't know what is
2015-01-04 17:52:51	Wraith64_Z	I seem to know how to push publicity on Pikmin videos, when I was much younger, I made a crappy quality video of my screen playing Pikmin, I got 30,000 odd views
2015-01-04 17:53:36	@Espyo	that's...
2015-01-04 17:53:36	@Espyo	wow
2015-01-04 17:53:40	Wraith64_Z	I showed off a glitch, which is what made it probably so popular
2015-01-04 17:54:16	@Espyo	hmm, probably
2015-01-04 17:54:50	Wraith64_Z	In Pikmin 1 I lied down next to a pearly clamclamp, let the wollywog keep jumping on me, until I phased through the invisible barrier and got up inside the pearly clamclamp!
2015-01-04 17:55:08	@Espyo	I think I've seen that, yeah
2015-01-04 17:55:20	Yoshi2	my video with the most views is a recording of a character with bad voice acting from Skyrim
2015-01-04 17:56:43	Wraith64_Z	"Do YOU get to the cloud district very often?"
2015-01-04 17:57:05	Yoshi2	much worse than that
2015-01-04 17:57:18	Wraith64_Z	didn't know it was possible haha
2015-01-04 17:57:41	Yoshi2	it is
2015-01-04 17:57:45	Yoshi2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYulxF3Clao
2015-01-04 17:57:59	@Espyo	wha
2015-01-04 17:58:01	@Espyo	did... he even try?
2015-01-04 17:58:06	Yoshi2	I am not sure
2015-01-04 17:58:32	Wraith64_Z	.. heh, this.. is so wrong.
2015-01-04 17:59:13	Wraith64_Z	and apparently it is the ONLY thing that guy says.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zCXiZfsUx4
2015-01-04 18:00:20	Wraith64_Z	and I thought the guards were annoying, i guess I hadn't seen it all!
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2015-01-04 18:01:42	Wraith64_Z	So, I am making an area on PFE, its a cave like area with dark dirt textures
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2015-01-04 18:01:57	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-04 18:02:00	@Espyo	nice
2015-01-04 18:02:06	@Espyo	are you finding it all right to work with?
2015-01-04 18:02:25	Yoshi2	Wraith64_Z: he actually says more than that, but I guess in this particular event he doesn't say more than that
2015-01-04 18:02:35	 *	ArmoredMawdad charges
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2015-01-04 18:03:19	Yoshi2	oh no
2015-01-04 18:03:23	Yoshi2	I am being eaten
2015-01-04 18:04:00	Wraith64_Z	yes, it works well. The only issues I can't seem to hammer out is that some of the sector points overlap each other, and when they do that its impossible to grab the individual sectors
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2015-01-04 18:04:42	 *	ArmoredMawdad eats Wraith
2015-01-04 18:05:13	 *	Wraith64_Z is a trans-dimensional pool of water, it hurts ArmoredMawdad's stomach
2015-01-04 18:05:37	 *	ArmoredMawdad turns you into a spirit
2015-01-04 18:06:14	Wraith64_Z	That's not in the Mawdad's repertoire! cheater.
2015-01-04 18:06:31	@Espyo	they're meant to grab each other
2015-01-04 18:06:35	@Espyo	stuff would SERIOUSLY break if they didn't
2015-01-04 18:06:39	ArmoredMawdad	What happens to dead pikmin?)
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2015-01-04 18:06:59	@Espyo	if you want to "unstick", you'll have to make two points on the lines of the sector you want to split, and join those
2015-01-04 18:07:01	@Espyo	oh no
2015-01-04 18:07:13	@Espyo	wait, an Armored Mawdad can't be taller than 20cm
2015-01-04 18:07:13	Testyo	20 cm = 7.876 in / 0.656 ft / 10.5263 Olimar-heights
2015-01-04 18:07:16	@Espyo	and I'm a full adult male
2015-01-04 18:07:17	@Espyo	so...
2015-01-04 18:07:25	@Espyo	either that or that's a big Mawdad
2015-01-04 18:07:47	Wraith64_Z	I see, that's good. I wasn't sure if it was okay, because it highlights the sectors as red errors
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2015-01-04 18:08:13	Wraith64_Z	"Non simple sectors detected!" or something to that effect
2015-01-04 18:08:27	@Espyo	...that doesn't sound good
2015-01-04 18:08:37	@Espyo	though you can probably just grab one of the offending points and move it elsewhere
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2015-01-04 18:08:39	Testyo	hah, I remember when I used to take defeat
2015-01-04 18:08:41	@Espyo	I have NO idea why the problem exists
2015-01-04 18:08:44	@Espyo	but something as simple as that fixes it
2015-01-04 18:08:49	@Espyo	lol Testyo
2015-01-04 18:08:50	Testyo	bah up for 25 hours
2015-01-04 18:09:32	Wraith64_Z	By the way, test's answer to that meal was amazingly on point.. too bad he isn't sentient. Props, testyo.
2015-01-04 18:09:32	Testyo	we're from the ground
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2015-01-04 18:10:01	Yoshi2	very philosophical
2015-01-04 18:10:06	@Espyo	sometimes he pretends to be sentient like that
2015-01-04 18:10:08	Yoshi2	"We're from the ground."
2015-01-04 18:10:08	@Espyo	it's scary
2015-01-04 18:10:16	Yoshi2	sometimes he talks to espyo
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2015-01-04 18:10:33	Wraith64_Z	hahah, clever.
2015-01-04 18:11:23	Wraith64_Z	Also, i noted that there has so far been 0 times where the area editor has crashed for me
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2015-01-04 18:11:50	@Espyo	that's great
2015-01-04 18:12:05	 *	LargeAngryVehemothPhosbat eats Espyo
2015-01-04 18:12:06	@Espyo	the entire episode of development where I had to work on sectors and such was a nightmare
2015-01-04 18:12:08	Wraith64_Z	its just that when I play the area, and I walk in to the black void of nothingness, it freezes the game
2015-01-04 18:12:09	@Espyo	it was complicated, it was glitchy...
2015-01-04 18:12:14	@Espyo	I'm so glad everything just works now
2015-01-04 18:12:19	@Espyo	besides sectors randomly becoming red...
2015-01-04 18:12:27	@Espyo	hey, do this, please
2015-01-04 18:12:31	@Espyo	try going to the void from the top or the left
2015-01-04 18:12:35	@Espyo	to see if it also crashes
2015-01-04 18:12:39	Wraith64_Z	ok
2015-01-04 18:12:43	@Espyo	because apparently it only crashes from the bottom or the right
2015-01-04 18:12:48	@Espyo	and I haven't figured out why yet
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2015-01-04 18:13:27	@Espyo	not now, Phosbat
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2015-01-04 18:14:01	Wraith64_Z	I just went northwest, and it crashed still.
2015-01-04 18:14:08	@Espyo	hm, sucks
2015-01-04 18:14:21	@Espyo	well, I think I made it so that anything that touches the void dies
2015-01-04 18:14:27	@Espyo	so that's probably why it's crashing
2015-01-04 18:14:30	@Espyo	I must've done something wrong
2015-01-04 18:14:35	@Espyo	ideally, the maps have a wall around the void
2015-01-04 18:14:38	@Espyo	even if it's invisible
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2015-01-04 18:15:23	Wraith64_Z	One thing I noticed about directional input is that when I am walking holding down W and then press A to go northwest, I have to take all of the fingers off A and W before I can press W and D to go northeast.
2015-01-04 18:15:35	@Espyo	yeah, I have to rework
2015-01-04 18:16:08	Wraith64_Z	but its not too bad at all, I've already compensated with just walking differently
2015-01-04 18:16:17	@Espyo	heh, same
2015-01-04 18:16:22	@Espyo	it's more comfortable with a gamepad
2015-01-04 18:16:49	Wraith64_Z	Yeah, also I am adding the walls, I just wanted to see if you knew that the void kills
2015-01-04 18:17:25	Wraith64_Z	So, I could use a GC controller adapter for PC to play the engine?
2015-01-04 18:17:40	@Espyo	you DEFINITELY should
2015-01-04 18:17:46	@Espyo	they already came up with drivers
2015-01-04 18:18:01	@Espyo	so in theory you could just connect it, and configure Options.txt
2015-01-04 18:18:56	@Espyo	I need to document some time later how the controls work on Options.txt
2015-01-04 18:19:53	Wraith64_Z	well, I actually own a PC native GC controller adapter, not the one nintendo makes, and I've used it for dolphin. So on my side I am set, I just wanted to know the control documentation
2015-01-04 18:20:54	@Espyo	oh, nice
2015-01-04 18:21:10	@Espyo	well, in that case, it'll take a bit of trial and error for the axises, but the buttons are straight-forward
2015-01-04 18:21:15	@Espyo	if you know which number maps to what button
2015-01-04 18:21:24	Wraith64_Z	Also, when I was talking about nintendo being not very efficient with THEIR gc controller adapter, it now seems worse because I ordered it a week ago, and its gonna arrive on the 22 of january..
2015-01-04 18:21:36	@Espyo	ouch, that's ridiculous
2015-01-04 18:21:56	Wraith64_Z	Apparently it was shipped from Arizona.
2015-01-04 18:22:01	@Espyo	woah
2015-01-04 18:22:39	@Espyo	anyway, if you've seen Options.txt, you've noticed the controls at the start
2015-01-04 18:22:51	Wraith64_Z	I mean, I bought it through a user on amazon, but at the end of the day I wouldn't need to do that if nintendo had just manufactured the right amount.
2015-01-04 18:22:57	@Espyo	their values are like "k_123"
2015-01-04 18:23:04	@Espyo	except 123 = any number
2015-01-04 18:23:11	Wraith64_Z	Also, yes, I was meaning to decipher it.
2015-01-04 18:23:15	@Espyo	the k is for keyboard, the number is the number of the key
2015-01-04 18:23:23	@Espyo	for joystick buttons, it's jb_
2015-01-04 18:23:39	@Espyo	and then the number of the joystick, which should always be 0, unless you have multiple
2015-01-04 18:23:44	@Espyo	so jb_0_
2015-01-04 18:23:46	Wraith64_Z	right
2015-01-04 18:23:48	@Espyo	and then after that the number of the button
2015-01-04 18:23:50	@Espyo	that's all
2015-01-04 18:24:01	@Espyo	axises are a bit weirder, but I'll explain those after you add the buttons
2015-01-04 18:24:08	@Espyo	I'm not even sure if the buttons will work, but they should
2015-01-04 18:24:15	Wraith64_Z	That sounds interesting to set up, any ways! I like a little bit of grunt work
2015-01-04 18:24:53	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-04 18:27:37	Wraith64_Z	I own three GCN controllers for smash, and I just noticed my two purple ones have a melted smooth analog stick... too much smash
2015-01-04 18:27:53	@Espyo	hah
2015-01-04 18:34:19	Yoshi2	one of my controllers has a faulty analog stick, the other has a faulty right shoulder button
2015-01-04 18:43:29	Wraith64_Z	So I got all of the buttons to function.
2015-01-04 18:43:44	@Espyo	nice
2015-01-04 18:43:50	@Espyo	any problems?
2015-01-04 18:44:39	Wraith64_Z	But where my computer said B button was '2', I had to set it to that number x - 1. So every number needs to be one below it. Example: button 1 on joystick is actually jb_0_0
2015-01-04 18:45:07	Yoshi2	a classic 0-indexing vs 1-indexing problem
2015-01-04 18:45:22	@Espyo	yeah, that sucks
2015-01-04 18:45:35	@Espyo	I could alter it, but ideally, you change the controls with a menu, not the config file
2015-01-04 18:45:42	@Espyo	anyway, axises are as follows
2015-01-04 18:45:46	Wraith64_Z	so i hope that doesn't happen with the axises.
2015-01-04 18:46:30	@Espyo	ja*_*_*_*
2015-01-04 18:46:33	@Espyo	all right, so
2015-01-04 18:46:37	Wraith64_Z	actually *axes
2015-01-04 18:46:38	@Espyo	the first asterisk is either a p, or an n
2015-01-04 18:46:45	@Espyo	p for positive, and n for negative
2015-01-04 18:47:19	@Espyo	second asterisk is again, the joystick number
2015-01-04 18:47:20	@Espyo	so 0
2015-01-04 18:47:32	@Espyo	third is the axis, and fourth is the... something
2015-01-04 18:47:33	@Espyo	it's confusing
2015-01-04 18:47:59	@Espyo	basically, try jap_0_0_0, then jap_0_0_1, jap_0_0_2, jap_0_1_0, jap_0_1_1, jap_0_1_2, etc.
2015-01-04 18:48:05	@Espyo	and you should eventually learn what axis is what
2015-01-04 18:48:20	@Espyo	the L and R triggers should be considered analog sticks, as far as the game cares
2015-01-04 18:49:22	@J	hmm, weird that you'd need another number
2015-01-04 18:49:29	@Espyo	it's the way Allegro works
2015-01-04 18:49:33	@J	maybe positive/negative to map to and positive/negative to map from
2015-01-04 18:49:38	@J	but you went up to 2
2015-01-04 18:50:25	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-04 18:50:30	@Espyo	I've got it
2015-01-04 18:50:36	@Espyo	it's stick, axis
2015-01-04 18:50:52	@Espyo	Allegro doesn't really take much into consideration if something really IS a stick
2015-01-04 18:51:04	@Espyo	so like, stick 0, axis 0 could be the main analog, left/right
2015-01-04 18:51:09	@Espyo	stick 0, axis 1 could be up/down
2015-01-04 18:51:18	@Espyo	but stick 0, axis 2 could be the secondary analog stick, left/right
2015-01-04 18:51:23	@Espyo	and stick 1, axis 0 be up/down
2015-01-04 18:51:29	@Espyo	I'm pretty sure the axis goes from 0 to 2
2015-01-04 18:51:48	Wraith64_Z	jap_0_0_2 is C-stick down
2015-01-04 18:51:51	@J	I didn't think you got that information from the hardware
2015-01-04 18:51:59	@J	I thought it was just axis which goes from -1 to 1
2015-01-04 18:52:10	@Espyo	it might have to be that low-level, because Allegro has to work with windows, Linux and Mac
2015-01-04 18:52:21	Wraith64_Z	jap_0_0_0 is move right
2015-01-04 18:52:37	@Espyo	https://www.allegro.cc/manual/5/ALLEGRO_EVENT
2015-01-04 18:52:42	@J	I'm talking about the way SDL does it, I guess
2015-01-04 18:52:44	@J	which works everywhere
2015-01-04 18:52:49	Wraith64_Z	jap_0_0_1 is move down
2015-01-04 18:52:52	@Espyo	>The stick number, counting from zero. Axes on a joystick are grouped into "sticks".
2015-01-04 18:52:56	@Espyo	>The axis number on the stick, counting from zero.
2015-01-04 18:53:40	Wraith64_Z	so, would move up be jan_0_0_1?
2015-01-04 18:54:05	Wraith64_Z	O_o
2015-01-04 18:54:25	Wraith64_Z	So it is... I guess I understood what you guys were talking about, if not unconsiously.
2015-01-04 18:55:20	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-04 18:55:24	@Espyo	it's easy after you understand it
2015-01-04 18:55:29	@Espyo	other than that, it's just a blind guess to get the numbers
2015-01-04 19:00:41	Wraith64_Z	so i got the d-pad as point of view hat, and the axis is labeled 2
2015-01-04 19:01:09	Wraith64_Z	axis 0 is control stick, and axis 1 is l and r
2015-01-04 19:02:03	Wraith64_Z	so i'm really not sure what the Cstick could be
2015-01-04 19:02:26	Wraith64_Z	I wanna make the cursor move tied to the c-stick, but i can't figure that one out.
2015-01-04 19:04:55	@Espyo	keep trying
2015-01-04 19:05:04	@Espyo	maybe the final number goes from 0 to 3, not 0 to 2
2015-01-04 19:05:06	@Espyo	it would make more sense
2015-01-04 19:07:19	Wraith64_Z	the cstick is called Z axis and Z rotation in my gamepad config, maybe that helps? I tried using the 3 number but it did nothinh
2015-01-04 19:09:06	@Espyo	hmm...
2015-01-04 19:09:20	@Espyo	I know what I can do
2015-01-04 19:09:35	@Espyo	I can compile a version of the engine that says what the control is
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2015-01-04 19:13:09	Wraith64_Z	yes, that'd be really nice
2015-01-04 19:17:56	@Espyo	almost done
2015-01-04 19:25:01	@Espyo	geez, takes forever to compile, if you add one variable
2015-01-04 19:27:39	Wraith64_Z	I wonder if the program allegro utilizes maximum cpu and memory
2015-01-04 19:27:54	Wraith64_Z	usage, that is
2015-01-04 19:29:17	@Espyo	it uses whatever I tell it to use
2015-01-04 19:29:29	@Espyo	I tell it to only process the logic and drawing 30 times per second
2015-01-04 19:29:32	@Espyo	(or 60, or whatever)
2015-01-04 19:29:46	@Espyo	so when Allegro isn't needing it, something else is
2015-01-04 19:29:47	Wraith64_Z	well, I meant the compilation process
2015-01-04 19:29:49	@Espyo	so it shouldn't be 100%
2015-01-04 19:29:52	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-04 19:29:56	@Espyo	no, visual studio still sucks
2015-01-04 19:30:04	Wraith64_Z	oh i see
2015-01-04 19:30:14	@Espyo	I meant "just sucks"
2015-01-04 19:30:19	Wraith64_Z	hey, at least it does it at all
2015-01-04 19:30:22	@Espyo	all right, that worked, now to test
2015-01-04 19:31:10	@Espyo	...windows wants to install my gamepad
2015-01-04 19:31:17	@Espyo	this is like the 500th time I'm using it
2015-01-04 19:31:38	Wraith64_Z	Uhm, i hate it when memory fails
2015-01-04 19:32:02	Yoshi2	Wraith64_Z: VisualStudio probably wouldn't exist in its 2013rd iteration if it wasn't able to compile stuff
2015-01-04 19:32:51	Wraith64_Z	Well, I was being optimistic, not pragmatic. True, very true.
2015-01-04 19:34:41	@Espyo	somehow it says the joystick number is in the billions
2015-01-04 19:34:42	@Espyo	instead of 0
2015-01-04 19:34:49	Yoshi2	it is crazy how VS Ultimate is more than 8 GB big
2015-01-04 19:35:08	Yoshi2	Espyo: integer overflow? o.o
2015-01-04 19:35:15	@Espyo	...it's a pointer
2015-01-04 19:35:17	@Espyo	I'm an idiot
2015-01-04 19:35:23	Yoshi2	ah
2015-01-04 19:36:23	Wraith64_Z	hmm, but i was able to move it around just fine with the d-pad
2015-01-04 19:36:37	@Espyo	uh, I'll have to work around the joystick number to get it to shw
2015-01-04 19:36:39	@Espyo	*show
2015-01-04 19:36:42	@Espyo	but hey, that's the least important
2015-01-04 19:36:44	@Espyo	so I'll just remove it
2015-01-04 19:37:38	Wraith64_Z	is there a simple way just to snap the crosshair to directly in front of the captain, a la gamecube controls?
2015-01-04 19:37:50	@Espyo	done, compiling
2015-01-04 19:38:12	@Espyo	not quite sure what you mean
2015-01-04 19:38:46	Wraith64_Z	well, in Pikmin 1 & 2, the crosshair snaps to in front of olimar's face at all times, instead of the Wii pointer style
2015-01-04 19:39:16	Wraith64_Z	so you simultaneously walk and move the crosshair in front of you, that could be an alternate control style
2015-01-04 19:40:01	@Espyo	right
2015-01-04 19:40:05	Yoshi2	hmmm, it would be a nice idea
2015-01-04 19:40:14	@Espyo	just make both the cursor and the leader movement bound to the main analog stick
2015-01-04 19:40:14	@Espyo	it works
2015-01-04 19:40:21	Yoshi2	in case you want to play on the keyboard only, or on a gamepad
2015-01-04 19:42:25	@Espyo	there we go https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/axis.zip
2015-01-04 19:45:23	Wraith64_Z	so, what do i do, just put it to axis 3?
2015-01-04 19:46:39	@Espyo	oh, right, sorry
2015-01-04 19:46:46	@Espyo	press F2
2015-01-04 19:46:52	@Espyo	and it'll start logging all axis moves you make
2015-01-04 19:59:07	Wraith64_Z	Allllrighty then
2015-01-04 19:59:18	Wraith64_Z	so its fully functional now.
2015-01-04 19:59:31	Wraith64_Z	I have some notes for a possible control scheme.
2015-01-04 20:01:13	@Espyo	all right
2015-01-04 20:15:12	Wraith64_Z	alright, Espyo
2015-01-04 20:16:16	Wraith64_Z	I have a little bit of information, in a google drive folder, that'll help you out. One video demonstrating the Gamepad controller working, and then a little bit later it shows a glitch i found in my map
2015-01-04 20:16:22	Wraith64_Z	https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8qIiVbEgb2IeHNsOFF2dWJaTlE&usp=sharing
2015-01-04 20:16:34	@Espyo	hm, all right
2015-01-04 20:17:20	Wraith64_Z	the zip file has a README in it that details the possible default xinput controls
2015-01-04 20:18:05	Wraith64_Z	and has my options.txt called GCN_LR, it shows the settings i used for the control scheme LR
2015-01-04 20:18:54	@Espyo	uhm, I can't really do anything with them
2015-01-04 20:18:57	@Espyo	I click them, nothing happens
2015-01-04 20:19:25	Wraith64_Z	you can't download them?
2015-01-04 20:19:29	@Espyo	let me try on Chrome
2015-01-04 20:19:31	@Espyo	nope, can't
2015-01-04 20:20:12	@Espyo	nope, nothing at all
2015-01-04 20:20:54	Wraith64_Z	sigh
2015-01-04 20:20:56	Wraith64_Z	http://www.mediafire.com/download/cd0c1s2ddski0uw/Gamepad_documentation.zip
2015-01-04 20:21:09	Wraith64_Z	i like ya, google drive, but you suck sometimes
2015-01-04 20:24:16	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Crewjony created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Crewjony
2015-01-04 20:24:17	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User account Dezeelj2750 created http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User:Dezeelj2750
2015-01-04 20:27:31	Wraith64_Z	so you got it?
2015-01-04 20:27:42	@Espyo	sorry, was busy
2015-01-04 20:28:17	@Espyo	D-pad should control Pikmin type/maturity swap
2015-01-04 20:28:19	@Espyo	as well as sprays
2015-01-04 20:28:19	Wraith64_Z	thats alright, i am also about to finish uploading the video to media fire, so ill supply the link in a sec
2015-01-04 20:28:27	Wraith64_Z	good idea
2015-01-04 20:28:51	Wraith64_Z	i forgot about the swap
2015-01-04 20:34:19	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User talk:Crewjony by Crewjony (+7 N Created page with "Pumpkin") http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Crewjony&curid=18021&diff=143868&oldid=0
2015-01-04 20:43:38	Wraith64_Z	...
2015-01-04 20:43:54	Wraith64_Z	Pumpkin, apparently
2015-01-04 20:44:17	Wraith64_Z	Also, espyo, here is the video as a zipped archive. http://www.mediafire.com/download/tbsed7b08p1q3us/2015-01-04-1415-02.zip\
2015-01-04 20:44:37	@Espyo	thanks
2015-01-04 20:56:36	@Espyo	oh, right
2015-01-04 20:56:39	@Espyo	that glitch is still a thing
2015-01-04 20:56:42	@Espyo	everything appears black at first
2015-01-04 20:56:46	@Espyo	I still don't quite know why that is
2015-01-04 20:56:49	@Espyo	but I know I have to fix it asa
2015-01-04 20:56:50	@Espyo	*p
2015-01-04 20:57:37	@Espyo	uhm, that wall glitch looks messed up
2015-01-04 20:58:13	@Espyo	how very very bizarre
2015-01-04 20:58:18	@Espyo	can you send me the map?
2015-01-04 20:58:23	@Espyo	I won't look at it today, but probably tomorrow
2015-01-04 20:59:57	Wraith64_Z	ok, I'll send it to you in a bit, i just got an amazon package! Raspberry Pi here i come!
2015-01-04 21:00:12	@Espyo	nice!
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2015-01-04 23:18:24	UltraMario	hey
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2015-01-05 11:30:09	Prezintenden	miles on the couch is an experience
2015-01-05 11:31:38	Prezintenden	he actually hugged someone out if happiness
2015-01-05 11:32:07	Prezintenden	*of
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2015-01-05 18:57:23	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-05 19:12:31	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-05 19:12:32	Testyo	"A sum of money required to be night
2015-01-05 19:13:44	@Espyo	hi
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2015-01-05 19:52:46	--	Topic set by PikFan on Sat, 03 May 2014 19:36:58
2015-01-05 19:52:46	--	Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (2 ops, 0 voices, 7 normals)
2015-01-05 19:52:46	--	URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com
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2015-01-05 19:53:45	@J	hi
2015-01-05 19:55:05	Yoshi2	hey J 
2015-01-05 19:56:04	@Espyo	hi
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2015-01-05 22:24:57	Testyo	thought list for folders I visited?
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2015-01-06 15:57:06	Xtarhaven	h-hello?
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2015-01-06 16:03:01	Xtarhaven	Hello? Hello!
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2015-01-06 16:52:50	Xtarhaven	:v
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2015-01-06 18:55:03	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2015-01-06 19:35:25	Xtarhaven	hey
2015-01-06 19:35:47	Yoshi2	good day
2015-01-06 19:35:57	Xtarhaven	came by here a little earlier, everyone was idle :y
2015-01-06 19:37:19	Yoshi2	idle is the default state of an IRC user until you ping them by mentioning their name :>
2015-01-06 19:38:38	Xtarhaven	well anyways, I made a thread in the forums, it's not showing up on the forums page but i'll post a link of the thread itself
2015-01-06 19:38:40	Xtarhaven	http://www.pikminfanon.com/Topic:Hello!_Hello!
2015-01-06 19:38:48	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-06 19:39:08	@Espyo	hmm, I'm not quite sure how the fanon forums work
2015-01-06 19:39:11	@Espyo	you might have to do something else
2015-01-06 19:39:15	@Espyo	I'll ask PikFan later
2015-01-06 19:39:19	@Espyo	anyway, welcome to the fandom!
2015-01-06 19:39:20	Xtarhaven	ok
2015-01-06 19:40:26	Xtarhaven	i've been here, but i've been one of those dead accounts, a few Pikmin 3 playthroughs have sparked my intrest again :x
2015-01-06 19:40:46	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-06 19:40:50	@Espyo	it's fine
2015-01-06 19:42:17	Xtarhaven	I made "Pikmin 4: Curse of Astromountain", nothing special in terms of story but I think I had some good area names
2015-01-06 19:44:02	Yoshi2	hmm, if it involved some kind of curse, that would be an interesting way to connect the events of Pikmin 1-3
2015-01-06 19:44:54	Yoshi2	because in all of those games, the space ship miraculously crashed
2015-01-06 19:45:06	Yoshi2	and yet everybody who was on the ship survived
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2015-01-06 19:45:45	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Alder613 created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Alder613
2015-01-06 19:46:00	Xtarhaven	I don't think it was related to them, I think just the mountain had some magnetic field that disrupted the ship landing
2015-01-06 19:46:22	Xtarhaven	At least I remember that was the story
2015-01-06 19:46:46	UltraIsaac	anyone here have a steam
2015-01-06 19:47:02	Yoshi2	UltraIsaac: a steam what?
2015-01-06 19:48:04	Xtarhaven	steam, the thing with all the game
2015-01-06 19:48:06	Xtarhaven	s
2015-01-06 19:48:34	Xtarhaven	vlave made it
2015-01-06 19:48:39	Yoshi2	Xtarhaven: I am not sure if I understand
2015-01-06 19:48:41	UltraIsaac	...
2015-01-06 19:48:41	UltraIsaac	:|
2015-01-06 19:48:46	UltraIsaac	what
2015-01-06 19:48:52	UltraIsaac	how do you not know what steam is?
2015-01-06 19:48:52	UltraIsaac	xP
2015-01-06 19:49:08	Xtarhaven	http://store.steampowered.com/
2015-01-06 19:49:12	Xtarhaven	^that
2015-01-06 19:49:46	UltraIsaac	Yoshi2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_%28software%29
2015-01-06 19:49:57	UltraIsaac	this should be more informative then just a link to the store page
2015-01-06 19:49:58	UltraIsaac	:p
2015-01-06 19:50:26	@Espyo	UltraIsaac: EspyoPT
2015-01-06 19:50:52	UltraIsaac	okay
2015-01-06 19:51:08	Xtarhaven	Xtarhaven, same as everywhere
2015-01-06 19:51:09	UltraIsaac	btw my steam name is Belome, just in case you're like, "WHO THE HELL IS THIS?
2015-01-06 19:51:10	UltraIsaac	lol
2015-01-06 19:51:15	UltraIsaac	I change my steam name a lot xP
2015-01-06 19:51:28	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-06 19:51:33	@Espyo	all right, I'll add a static nickname
2015-01-06 19:51:35	@Espyo	good thing you can do that
2015-01-06 19:51:48	UltraIsaac	alright, sorry :p
2015-01-06 19:51:59	UltraIsaac	I just like changing my name to random video game characters mostly
2015-01-06 19:52:10	@Espyo	it's fine
2015-01-06 19:52:11	UltraIsaac	"There are no users that match your search"
2015-01-06 19:52:13	Yoshi2	I wanted to make a steam pun, but I can't come up with anything now
2015-01-06 19:52:19	Xtarhaven	Isaac as in the Binding of isaac?
2015-01-06 19:52:21	@Espyo	hm... I'll just link to the page, I guess
2015-01-06 19:52:25	UltraIsaac	yeah
2015-01-06 19:52:32	@Espyo	ah, I thought of Binding of Isaac too
2015-01-06 19:52:35	UltraIsaac	I'm playing that which is why my name is not UltraMario right now
2015-01-06 19:52:36	UltraIsaac	:P
2015-01-06 19:52:40	UltraIsaac	also it's Rebirth
2015-01-06 19:52:56	UltraIsaac	also did your name come from the paper mario location, xtarhaven? :o
2015-01-06 19:53:30	@Espyo	there we go http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198043929543/
2015-01-06 19:53:34	UltraIsaac	also xtarhaven you're the one with the porygon-z pic, right? :p
2015-01-06 19:53:37	UltraIsaac	making sure it's you
2015-01-06 19:53:37	@Espyo	WOAH boy how old is that profile description
2015-01-06 19:53:43	@Espyo	it still links to PK Rhythm, instead of the engine
2015-01-06 19:54:01	UltraIsaac	my profile description is just general stuff about me
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2015-01-06 19:54:17	UltraIsaac	like hey I'm UltraMario, but you may know me as X on this site
2015-01-06 19:54:19	UltraIsaac	and stuff
2015-01-06 19:54:22	Starhaven	what happened?
2015-01-06 19:54:33	Starhaven	my name still there
2015-01-06 19:54:34	UltraIsaac	lol that pic
2015-01-06 19:54:37	UltraIsaac	yeah
2015-01-06 19:54:43	UltraIsaac	so it DID come from paper mario
2015-01-06 19:54:44	UltraIsaac	:>
2015-01-06 19:55:01	UltraIsaac	is your name registered starhaven?
2015-01-06 19:55:05	UltraIsaac	i mean xtarhaven
2015-01-06 19:55:05	Starhaven	the chat just bugged out and I couldn't get back with the same name
2015-01-06 19:55:10	@Espyo	Starhaven: yeah, that sometimes happens
2015-01-06 19:55:13	@Espyo	probably a connection problem
2015-01-06 19:55:17	@Espyo	the IRC doesn't realize that you quit
2015-01-06 19:55:17	Starhaven	hm
2015-01-06 19:55:24	@Espyo	so technically, you're still there as far as it cares
2015-01-06 19:55:26	@Espyo	give it a few minutes
2015-01-06 19:55:30	Starhaven	k
2015-01-06 19:55:31	@Espyo	it'll realize that your old you is not responding
2015-01-06 19:55:35	@Espyo	and THEN it'll realize it should be gone
2015-01-06 19:55:38	@Espyo	and then you can change nicks
2015-01-06 19:55:42	UltraIsaac	14:53	UltraIsaac	also xtarhaven you're the one with the porygon-z pic, right? :p
2015-01-06 19:55:48	Starhaven	yep
2015-01-06 19:55:52	Starhaven	best pokemon
2015-01-06 19:55:58	UltraIsaac	so you like EarthBound Espyo?
2015-01-06 19:56:00	UltraIsaac	:o
2015-01-06 19:56:27	UltraIsaac	i sent a request btw
2015-01-06 19:56:55	@Espyo	yeah, I do
2015-01-06 19:57:04	@Espyo	though that pic is Ness because he's my main in the Smash games
2015-01-06 19:57:08	UltraIsaac	cool
2015-01-06 19:57:09	@Espyo	but I still love EarthBound
2015-01-06 19:57:15	Starhaven	you got smash? Wii u?
2015-01-06 19:57:15	@Espyo	oh, that reminds me, I've been meaning to check on how Mother 4 is doing
2015-01-06 19:57:18	UltraIsaac	Lucas is better IMO, but I like Ness too
2015-01-06 19:57:18	@Espyo	haven't heard news in ages
2015-01-06 19:57:23	@Espyo	yep, got it on 3DS and Wii U
2015-01-06 19:57:33	UltraIsaac	espyo what's your FC? :o
2015-01-06 19:57:37	Starhaven	cool me too, don't have a "main" persay
2015-01-06 19:57:47	@Espyo	I'll have to check when I next boot my Wii U
2015-01-06 19:57:49	Starhaven	but Mr. Game and Watch and Pit are close
2015-01-06 19:57:53	@Espyo	I didn't use to have a main either
2015-01-06 19:58:07	@Espyo	but I realized that sometimes you just need a character you're very good at, to do some task
2015-01-06 19:58:11	UltraIsaac	me neither starhaven, I actually like playing as everyone and seeing what strategies I can come up with
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2015-01-06 19:58:12	@Espyo	like complete Classic on 9.0...
2015-01-06 19:58:22	UltraIsaac	the only thing is that I favor some characters over others'
2015-01-06 19:58:24	@Espyo	that said, when I play with friends, it's almost always for fun, and I use everybody
2015-01-06 19:58:33	UltraIsaac	but I like how everyone plays, so ^_^
2015-01-06 19:58:41	UltraIsaac	all except pichu of course...
2015-01-06 19:58:43	Starhaven	oh man I used to spam Kirby's down B in brawl so much :s
2015-01-06 19:58:55	UltraIsaac	that isn't even a good spammy move :P
2015-01-06 19:59:06	UltraIsaac	you were a noob weren't you
2015-01-06 19:59:15	Starhaven	more like a casual
2015-01-06 19:59:18	Yoshi2	there are some characters that I dislike very much
2015-01-06 19:59:23	Starhaven	played melee before
2015-01-06 19:59:29	UltraIsaac	are you still a casual now?
2015-01-06 19:59:30	UltraIsaac	that's fine
2015-01-06 19:59:31	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> there are some characters that I dislike very much
2015-01-06 19:59:31	@Espyo	same
2015-01-06 19:59:37	@Espyo	can't work my head around Charizard whatsoever
2015-01-06 19:59:43	UltraIsaac	who espyo and Yoshi2?
2015-01-06 20:00:00	UltraIsaac	I mean the only character I truly hate in terms of playing as is just Pichu
2015-01-06 20:00:05	@Espyo	besides Charizard, I kinda suck with Meta Knight
2015-01-06 20:00:06	Starhaven	yep, but i'm trying to git gud with gaurding and dodgeing
2015-01-06 20:00:09	@Espyo	his hitboxes do not agree with me
2015-01-06 20:00:14	@Espyo	specially since they changed so much from Brawl
2015-01-06 20:00:22	UltraIsaac	everyone else is just fine, some better than others, but I never want to see I hate any character :(
2015-01-06 20:00:26	UltraIsaac	that's just mean
2015-01-06 20:00:34	@Espyo	I don't quite hate them
2015-01-06 20:00:34	UltraIsaac	unless of course it's pichu ;P
2015-01-06 20:00:36	@Espyo	I just can't use them
2015-01-06 20:00:39	Starhaven	Just don't use Charizard's Forward B in a Omega Stage
2015-01-06 20:00:40	@Espyo	and everybody else can :/
2015-01-06 20:00:43	UltraIsaac	git gud son
2015-01-06 20:00:45	@Espyo	yeah, heh
2015-01-06 20:00:52	Starhaven	get's me everytime
2015-01-06 20:01:01	UltraIsaac	espyo can you add my NNID? :o
2015-01-06 20:01:22	Starhaven	Ganon's really powerful in Smash 4, though I didn't play him in the others
2015-01-06 20:01:34	UltraIsaac	i lot of people hate new ganon
2015-01-06 20:01:38	Yoshi2	I dislike some characters that have very weak attacks
2015-01-06 20:01:41	UltraIsaac	in brawl and Smash 4 that is
2015-01-06 20:01:49	Yoshi2	I dislike some characters that have a very strong attack but are very slow
2015-01-06 20:01:55	UltraIsaac	but at least we can all admit he's not as terrible in brawl
2015-01-06 20:01:57	@Espyo	I can't now, because I'm not going to start the console just for it
2015-01-06 20:02:02	@Espyo	but let me have it, and I'll point it down
2015-01-06 20:02:07	UltraIsaac	what? I love characters like that Yoshi2. :(
2015-01-06 20:02:20	Starhaven	There's so many character with Counters ;_;
2015-01-06 20:02:22	Starhaven	I hate it
2015-01-06 20:02:23	Yoshi2	I can't really play well them
2015-01-06 20:02:44	UltraIsaac	the only characters I don't particularly like in that category are ganon and charizard
2015-01-06 20:02:46	Yoshi2	Starhaven: characters with counters are a pain to fight against when fighting the cpu 
2015-01-06 20:02:57	Starhaven	All the anime characters too
2015-01-06 20:03:04	UltraIsaac	but I love playing as Bowser, DK, Ike, and Dedede
2015-01-06 20:03:04	Starhaven	and Mac
2015-01-06 20:03:05	UltraIsaac	^_^
2015-01-06 20:03:28	Starhaven	The NPC challengers are really intelligent
2015-01-06 20:03:41	UltraIsaac	who?
2015-01-06 20:03:50	UltraIsaac	>anime
2015-01-06 20:03:59	UltraIsaac	u wat m8
2015-01-06 20:04:01	Starhaven	Fire emblem
2015-01-06 20:04:09	UltraIsaac	fire emblem is not an anime lol
2015-01-06 20:04:15	UltraIsaac	well it did have one, but
2015-01-06 20:04:15	Yoshi2	they have yet to make an anime out of FE 
2015-01-06 20:04:17	Starhaven	might as well be
2015-01-06 20:04:19	UltraIsaac	it came after the game
2015-01-06 20:04:22	Yoshi2	UltraIsaac: it did?
2015-01-06 20:04:22	UltraIsaac	Yoshi2 there was one
2015-01-06 20:04:30	UltraIsaac	japan only :P
2015-01-06 20:04:35	Yoshi2	duh
2015-01-06 20:04:35	UltraIsaac	also it was in the 90s, so
2015-01-06 20:04:36	Starhaven	FE?
2015-01-06 20:04:39	UltraIsaac	let me get a link
2015-01-06 20:04:52	UltraIsaac	do you hate fire emblem or something starhaven? :|
2015-01-06 20:05:18	Yoshi2	fight me irl if you hate fire emblem >:l
2015-01-06 20:05:20	Starhaven	no, just every Fire Emblem character has counters, I hate counters is all
2015-01-06 20:05:37	UltraIsaac	Nosferatu isn't a counter
2015-01-06 20:05:39	UltraIsaac	:p
2015-01-06 20:06:12	UltraIsaac	Yoshi2: here ya go: http://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Fire_Emblem:_Mystery_of_the_Emblem_(anime)
2015-01-06 20:06:15	Starhaven	Well I bet one of his customs is a counter
2015-01-06 20:06:25	UltraIsaac	I doubt it
2015-01-06 20:06:28	UltraIsaac	let me check
2015-01-06 20:06:49	UltraIsaac	also I added you on steam btw
2015-01-06 20:06:50	Starhaven	Please do
2015-01-06 20:07:16	Starhaven	Didn't show up :/
2015-01-06 20:07:29	UltraIsaac	http://www.ssbwiki.com/Nosferatu
2015-01-06 20:07:30	UltraIsaac	nope
2015-01-06 20:07:32	UltraIsaac	:3
2015-01-06 20:07:39	UltraIsaac	the trivia section even says so
2015-01-06 20:07:55	Yoshi2	http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Emblem_%28anime%29
2015-01-06 20:07:58	Starhaven	thank god
2015-01-06 20:07:58	Yoshi2	"Production ended after only two episodes were finished"
2015-01-06 20:08:16	UltraIsaac	was this anime made by valve? :p
2015-01-06 20:08:21	Starhaven	Trivia: Nosferatu is the first down special move to belong to a Fire Emblem representative that is not Counter.
2015-01-06 20:08:28	Starhaven	yus
2015-01-06 20:08:38	UltraIsaac	okay, so?
2015-01-06 20:08:48	UltraIsaac	a lot of characters in general in smash 4 have a damn counter
2015-01-06 20:08:55	UltraIsaac	that include non FE characters
2015-01-06 20:09:13	Starhaven	I know, but at least the mage doesn't, loves me some magic
2015-01-06 20:09:55	Starhaven	Even the god as a counter
2015-01-06 20:09:58	Starhaven	has*
2015-01-06 20:10:20	UltraIsaac	*goddess
2015-01-06 20:11:13	UltraIsaac	sent an invite starhaven
2015-01-06 20:11:17	Yoshi2	in an alternative universe, she could be male
2015-01-06 20:11:45	UltraIsaac	yoshi2 wanna add my nnid and play me? :o
2015-01-06 20:11:53	Starhaven	Kid Icarus: Downrising
2015-01-06 20:12:25	Yoshi2	UltraIsaac: don't have a lot of time to do much right now
2015-01-06 20:12:26	Starhaven	ah Belome as in Belome from Mario RPG, thought it was just some weird name for a second
2015-01-06 20:12:36	UltraIsaac	sorry
2015-01-06 20:12:40	UltraIsaac	:(
2015-01-06 20:12:42	UltraIsaac	yeah that's it
2015-01-06 20:15:31	Starhaven	so ultra, did you make anything here?  Never really checked who specificity made some things
2015-01-06 20:15:45	UltraIsaac	who
2015-01-06 20:15:53	UltraIsaac	*where
2015-01-06 20:16:18	Starhaven	like fangames
2015-01-06 20:16:23	UltraIsaac	no...
2015-01-06 20:16:28	UltraIsaac	can you add my NNID?
2015-01-06 20:16:37	Starhaven	NNID?
2015-01-06 20:16:39	UltraIsaac	:O
2015-01-06 20:16:44	UltraIsaac	nintendo network id
2015-01-06 20:16:49	Starhaven	ah
2015-01-06 20:17:00	Starhaven	let me get the Wii u
2015-01-06 20:17:05	UltraIsaac	okay
2015-01-06 20:18:22	Starhaven	ah sorry, the internet doesn't quite work right now sorry :c
2015-01-06 20:18:37	UltraIsaac	change your internet connection in system settings
2015-01-06 20:18:38	UltraIsaac	:p
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2015-01-06 20:22:25	Starhaven	We got a new internet cable so that's why the old connection isn't working, i'll fix it later
2015-01-06 20:22:40	UltraIsaac	ok
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2015-01-06 20:23:51	Starhaven	so uh, does isaac have internet co-op or is it just local
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2015-01-06 20:25:18	@Espyo	I think it's just local
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2015-01-06 20:25:40	Xtarhaven	damn
2015-01-06 20:25:49	UltraIsaac	what
2015-01-06 20:25:54	UltraIsaac	call me UltraMario btw :P
2015-01-06 20:26:00	Xtarhaven	nothing
2015-01-06 20:26:08	Xtarhaven	ok ultra
2015-01-06 20:26:10	Xtarhaven	mario
2015-01-06 20:26:12	UltraIsaac	I have internet co-op
2015-01-06 20:26:46	Xtarhaven	no I mean for the Binding of Isaac
2015-01-06 20:26:48	Xtarhaven	not you 
2015-01-06 20:26:53	UltraIsaac	oh
2015-01-06 20:27:02	UltraIsaac	idk I have the PC version
2015-01-06 20:27:06	Xtarhaven	me too
2015-01-06 20:27:10	UltraIsaac	how do you play co-op in that game
2015-01-06 20:27:39	UltraIsaac	?
2015-01-06 20:28:03	Xtarhaven	espyo said it's only local
2015-01-06 20:28:32	UltraIsaac	oh
2015-01-06 20:28:33	UltraIsaac	:(
2015-01-06 20:29:00	Xtarhaven	hey do you know ant secret seeds?
2015-01-06 20:29:27	UltraIsaac	you mean the special codes?
2015-01-06 20:29:46	Xtarhaven	yeah, but they'er called seeds
2015-01-06 20:29:56	UltraIsaac	yeah I know
2015-01-06 20:30:07	Xtarhaven	BASE MENT is a good one
2015-01-06 20:30:42	UltraIsaac	Xstarhaven: http://www.mariowiki.com/images/e/ef/ForemanSpikeSprite.PNG
2015-01-06 20:30:44	UltraIsaac	...
2015-01-06 20:30:44	UltraIsaac	woops
2015-01-06 20:30:47	UltraIsaac	wrong link
2015-01-06 20:31:11	UltraIsaac	Xtarhaven: http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Seeds#Special_Seeds
2015-01-06 20:31:18	UltraIsaac	there ya go, a buttload of them
2015-01-06 20:31:45	Xtarhaven	1337 HAXR amazing
2015-01-06 20:32:24	UltraIsaac	easy mode :p
2015-01-06 20:38:11	Xtarhaven	http://www.pikminfanon.com/Topic:Hello!_Hello!
2015-01-06 20:41:11	Xtarhaven	just some Bulborb Ideas
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2015-01-06 20:58:29	Pikminlover	hi
2015-01-06 20:58:38	Pikminlover	im kinda new so ya
2015-01-06 20:59:01	Pikminlover	and of course im talkin to a computer
2015-01-06 20:59:11	Pikminlover	wow im stoopid
2015-01-06 20:59:12	Xtarhaven	ay
2015-01-06 20:59:21	Pikminlover	finally
2015-01-06 20:59:31	Pikminlover	someone besides myself
2015-01-06 21:00:07	Pikminlover	:D
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2015-01-06 21:02:40	Xtarhaven	okay bye then
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2015-01-06 21:09:48	@Espyo	great idea
2015-01-06 21:10:03	@Espyo	I should probably make Testyo say hi to people, and tell them he's a bot, and that they should wait a while before quitting
2015-01-06 21:10:04	Testyo	so i'm really not sure what the Cstick could probably hack it and do like sys.argv[1][:-3] + ".rarc", right?
2015-01-06 21:11:23	Yoshi2	huh
2015-01-06 21:11:24	Yoshi2	Testyo: lm
2015-01-06 21:11:25	Testyo	I said so i'm really not sure what the Cstick could probably hack it and do like sys.argv[1][:-3] + ".rarc", right? because Espyo mentioned my name. This random message came from the messages I could probably hack it and do like sys.argv[1][:-3] + ".rarc", right? and so i'm really not sure what the Cstick could be. They were joined by the common word could.
2015-01-06 21:11:45	Yoshi2	rarc
2015-01-06 21:11:53	Yoshi2	seems like something I might be familiar with
2015-01-06 21:11:54	Xtarhaven	"great idea" you talking to me, or were to speaking to someone else?
2015-01-06 21:15:30	@Espyo	I just speaking to the air, really
2015-01-06 21:16:19	Xtarhaven	mh
2015-01-06 21:18:40	Xtarhaven	here's my old fangame what I "abandoned"  http://www.pikminfanon.com/Pikmin_4:_Curse_of_Astromountain
2015-01-06 21:19:10	Xtarhaven	nice area name eh?
2015-01-06 21:19:16	Xtarhaven	names*
2015-01-06 21:27:16	Xtarhaven	well I'm going to sleep, bye
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2015-01-06 22:03:50	Spark	psst espyo, youre supposed to put namespaces in header files, right? and then include them in any cpp file that uses the header?
2015-01-06 22:04:10	@Espyo	you can use namespaces if you want, but you don't have to
2015-01-06 22:04:13	@Espyo	but yeah, that's pretty much the idea
2015-01-06 22:04:28	@Espyo	the .h is like namespace my_thing{ int my_var; }
2015-01-06 22:04:39	@Espyo	and the .cpp #includes the .h, and then calls my_var like my_thing::my_var
2015-01-06 22:04:52	Spark	hmm
2015-01-06 22:05:15	Spark	that's strange; i'm getting a multiple definition error for all of the variables in the namespace except for the const ones
2015-01-06 22:05:39	@Espyo	how many files are #including the same .h
2015-01-06 22:05:40	@Espyo	*?
2015-01-06 22:07:11	Spark	three or four
2015-01-06 22:07:35	@Espyo	yep, there's the problem
2015-01-06 22:07:50	@Espyo	#includes are easy to understand
2015-01-06 22:08:15	@Espyo	pretend that in the place of the #include, you copy-paste the contents of the .h and paste it on the line of the #include
2015-01-06 22:08:19	@Espyo	that's what the compiler does
2015-01-06 22:08:38	@Espyo	meaning you said that my_thing has my_var three/four times
2015-01-06 22:09:04	Spark	then how am I supposed to use the namespace in multiple files?
2015-01-06 22:09:10	@Espyo	so what you have to do is tell the compiler to only include the file once
2015-01-06 22:09:13	@Espyo	on the first time it needs it
2015-01-06 22:09:21	@Espyo	the other times, it'll just not include them
2015-01-06 22:09:29	@Espyo	because it already knows about the existence of my_thing::my_var
2015-01-06 22:09:35	@Espyo	now, you either do this the right way, or the wrong way
2015-01-06 22:09:42	@Espyo	the wrong way is to remove all of your #includes until you only have one
2015-01-06 22:09:49	@Espyo	which is painful, error-prone, and wrong
2015-01-06 22:09:54	@Espyo	or you can use an include guard
2015-01-06 22:10:12	@Espyo	it's a way of saying "if you included the contents of this .h before, don't include them again"
2015-01-06 22:10:20	@Espyo	if you google "include guard c++", you'll get examples
2015-01-06 22:10:23	@Espyo	they're super-easy to implement
2015-01-06 22:10:27	@Espyo	so it shouldn't be a headache
2015-01-06 22:10:29	Spark	oh like the #ifndef
2015-01-06 22:10:31	Spark	#define
2015-01-06 22:10:35	@Espyo	that's exactly what it is
2015-01-06 22:10:40	Spark	i already have that
2015-01-06 22:10:45	@Espyo	hm, weird then
2015-01-06 22:10:52	@Espyo	you sure you have it right?
2015-01-06 22:10:57	@Espyo	it shouldn't complain about multiple definitions
2015-01-06 22:11:05	@Espyo	oh, wait, I think...
2015-01-06 22:11:09	@Espyo	I think you might need externs
2015-01-06 22:11:17	@Espyo	I don't mess around with namespaces much
2015-01-06 22:11:26	@Espyo	I just like plastering everything out on the open
2015-01-06 22:11:31	@Espyo	but I'm guessing that you'll need something like:
2015-01-06 22:11:33	@Espyo	.h:
2015-01-06 22:11:44	@Espyo	namespace my_thing{ extern int my_var; }
2015-01-06 22:11:57	@Espyo	a .cpp that has the same name as the .h:
2015-01-06 22:12:04	@Espyo	namespace my_thing{ int my_var; }
2015-01-06 22:12:11	@Espyo	a .cpp that actually uses my_var:
2015-01-06 22:12:28	@Espyo	#include the .h (...) my_thing::my_var = 40
2015-01-06 22:12:35	Spark	ohhh that makes sense
2015-01-06 22:12:36	@Espyo	that's what I do when I have variables on a .h
2015-01-06 22:12:41	@Espyo	I have to mark them as extern
2015-01-06 22:12:48	@Espyo	I honestly wish I could understand this a slightly bit more
2015-01-06 22:12:52	@Espyo	as well as give you the right terms and such
2015-01-06 22:12:55	@Espyo	but I honestly stopped caring
2015-01-06 22:12:57	@Espyo	too many headaches
2015-01-06 22:13:02	Spark	ha, understandable
2015-01-06 22:13:06	@Espyo	all I know is that when I do it right, it works, and I never have to worry about that again
2015-01-06 22:13:10	@Espyo	but try that, and it should work
2015-01-06 22:13:17	@Espyo	if not, try adding "extern" to before "namespace" as well
2015-01-06 22:13:29	@Espyo	if not... try "namespace in header file" on a google search
2015-01-06 22:14:15	Spark	alright, thanks
2015-01-06 22:14:27	@Espyo	no prob
2015-01-06 22:25:42	Spark	okay, another question - i googled this already and found nothing helpful - what about consts? i assume that works the same way but it's saying undefined reference
2015-01-06 22:26:43	Spark	it is defined in the cpp file, and in the hpp file i have extern const int variablename
2015-01-06 22:27:02	@Espyo	it should work
2015-01-06 22:27:17	@Espyo	then again, I don't use consts much, I use #define instead
2015-01-06 22:27:21	@Espyo	but I recently read you should use consts
2015-01-06 22:27:22	@Espyo	so... whoops
2015-01-06 22:27:25	Spark	lol
2015-01-06 22:27:38	@Espyo	but yeah, they should just work the same as any other variable
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2015-01-06 22:41:54	@J	namespaces are probably the best thing in programming
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2015-01-06 22:43:43	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-06 22:43:47	@Espyo	I don't hate them, mind
2015-01-06 22:43:52	@Espyo	unlike people who hate globals
2015-01-06 22:43:57	@Espyo	I just never got around to really using them a lot
2015-01-06 22:44:06	@Espyo	actually, I do use them for the area and animation editors
2015-01-06 22:44:19	@J	they are the absolute best thing
2015-01-06 22:44:30	@Espyo	better than classes, huh
2015-01-06 22:44:50	@J	lots of more modern languages have them built right in to the import/include system
2015-01-06 22:45:02	@J	import gives you a namespace instead of importing all the names
2015-01-06 22:45:24	@J	classes are completely different
2015-01-06 22:45:46	@J	you only have one of each namespace - they're just for making name collisions less likely
2015-01-06 22:46:08	@J	unless you're saying you use singleton classes as namespaces or something?
2015-01-06 22:46:11	@Espyo	yeah, except C++ doesn't care about your imports
2015-01-06 22:46:14	@J	or static classes
2015-01-06 22:46:14	@Espyo	namespaces or bust, really
2015-01-06 22:46:30	@Espyo	do not even begin to suggest that I use singletons
2015-01-06 22:46:34	@Espyo	I will shank you
2015-01-06 22:46:48	@Espyo	no, but some people pretty much do use singletons for namespaces
2015-01-06 22:46:54	@Espyo	Java programmers, mostly
2015-01-06 22:47:43	@J	but then Java is weird, so maybe that's actually the Java version of namespaces
2015-01-06 22:47:54	@J	it's crazy about making everything a class
2015-01-06 22:48:54	@Espyo	Java methodology is like that
2015-01-06 22:48:58	@Espyo	EVERYTHING is classes
2015-01-06 22:49:04	@Espyo	global variables? put them in a class, just because
2015-01-06 22:49:07	@Espyo	a function? class it goes
2015-01-06 22:49:26	@Espyo	makes no sense to have something in a class because you never instantiate it? just pull the "singleton" card as an excuse
2015-01-06 22:49:51	@Espyo	it goes under the premise that it makes your code more modular
2015-01-06 22:49:57	@Espyo	which really depends
2015-01-06 22:50:23	@Espyo	they also use that a lot because it eases potential extensibility
2015-01-06 22:50:31	@Espyo	except I've got a better code design methodology
2015-01-06 22:50:39	@Espyo	You Ain't Gonna Need It
2015-01-06 22:50:46	@Espyo	and who can forget good old Keep It Simple, Stupid?
2015-01-06 22:50:51	@Espyo	honestly, Java just annoys me
2015-01-06 22:51:02	Testyo	http://www.pikminwiki.com/Main_Page a lot of work
2015-01-06 22:51:16	@Espyo	err
2015-01-06 22:51:24	@Espyo	uhm... sure, Testyo?
2015-01-06 22:51:24	Testyo	I haven't done anything for about the energy saving was paid for by companies who produce these sockets that can be switched off
2015-01-06 22:51:43	Spark	lmfao
2015-01-06 22:53:35	@J	a lot of work indeed
2015-01-06 22:53:49	@Espyo	I do have some things that I need to do on it
2015-01-06 22:53:54	@Espyo	I'll do them one of these decades
2015-01-06 23:22:48	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Template:News by AeroBlaze777 (+178 Adding Pikcast.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:News&curid=17218&diff=143873&oldid=143479
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2015-01-07 00:02:25	@Espyo	I knew I had a perfect reason to use #define instead of const
2015-01-07 00:02:28	@Espyo	because #define works
2015-01-07 00:02:33	@Espyo	I tried changing stuff to const
2015-01-07 00:02:36	@Espyo	boom, instant hissy-fits
2015-01-07 00:02:40	@Espyo	it can't create a constant string?
2015-01-07 00:02:46	@Espyo	this is ridiculous, I'm going to bed
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2015-01-07 08:26:30	Xtarhaven	heyo
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2015-01-07 18:53:03	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-07 18:59:25	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-01-07 18:59:26	Testyo	no, "huh?" was at what I just the compression level
2015-01-07 18:59:41	@Espyo	hey
2015-01-07 18:59:46	Yoshi2	https://github.com/RenolY2/py-playBMS/commit/4ca10308469dfd2b22f6254f067af72570166d53 a bit of progress was made today!
2015-01-07 19:00:02	@Espyo	nice
2015-01-07 19:01:04	Yoshi2	but I'm at a point where I wish I had planned the structure a bit better
2015-01-07 19:05:42	@Espyo	hehe, that point
2015-01-07 19:05:52	Yoshi2	I'm putting code where I think it would make sense, but I really should have created a diagram of sorts
2015-01-07 19:07:33	Yoshi2	when I get the chance, I should turn my current program into a diagram and then see where code would make the most sense
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2015-01-07 19:09:11	Xtarhaven	heyo
2015-01-07 19:09:59	Yoshi2	hey Xtarhaven 
2015-01-07 19:13:36	Xtarhaven	sup
2015-01-07 19:14:05	@Espyo	hi
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2015-01-07 20:48:34	Xtarhaven	How many Green Pikmin are in this wiki
2015-01-07 20:54:04	Xtarhaven	21!
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2015-01-07 20:56:34	Xtarhaven	And a hand-full are Acid resistant, guess I wasn't original even before I found this site :v
2015-01-07 20:58:49	UltraMario	hi
2015-01-07 20:58:55	UltraMario	hey did you add me on miiverse
2015-01-07 20:59:59	Xtarhaven	oh, I didn't, i'm not really using the wii u much really, you'll know when I do it
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2015-01-07 21:27:12	UltraMario	aw ;_;
2015-01-07 21:27:19	UltraMario	i want more people to play smash with
2015-01-07 21:27:36	Xtarhaven	sorry
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2015-01-07 22:59:33	Testyo	Greetings everyone!
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2015-01-07 23:39:44	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account PikPikPk created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:PikPikPk
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2015-01-08 18:53:07	Testyo	Good evening everyone!
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2015-01-08 18:54:18	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-08 18:54:19	Testyo	I wonder what the incorrect capitalization: fixes
2015-01-08 18:55:41	@Espyo	hi
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2015-01-08 19:18:34	Xtarhaven	heyo
2015-01-08 19:19:49	Yoshi2	hey UltraMario & Xtarhaven 
2015-01-08 19:20:19	Xtarhaven	sup yoshi
2015-01-08 19:20:41	UltraMario	hi
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2015-01-08 19:24:54	UltraMario	:
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2015-01-08 19:33:55	Xtarhaven	back, had to do something
2015-01-08 19:34:38	@Espyo	wb
2015-01-08 19:39:14	Xtarhaven	So I got some Pikmin type ideas, 2 are...not so original, but the 3rd might of not be done by anyone else
2015-01-08 19:40:10	Yoshi2	I've seen a suggestion for rainbow pikmin
2015-01-08 19:41:41	Xtarhaven	well, that's the most obvious, but mine are the Acid and Ice resistant pikmin, green and cyan 
2015-01-08 19:42:20	Yoshi2	rainbow would not make a lot of sense from an evolutionary point of view
2015-01-08 19:42:29	Yoshi2	I'm also not sure what rainbow pikmin would do
2015-01-08 19:42:51	Xtarhaven	be Immune to every element
2015-01-08 19:43:02	Xtarhaven	basically bulbmin
2015-01-08 19:44:17	Xtarhaven	anyway the green one is called the Thorned Pikmin, as they have thorns all over them along with a rose for the flower
2015-01-08 19:45:39	Xtarhaven	But instead of the old green acid, it would just be any corrosive liquid, like stomach acid
2015-01-08 19:46:20	Xtarhaven	Because animals today don't use actual Acid
2015-01-08 19:51:03	Xtarhaven	The cyan one is the Yeti Pikmin, it's resistant to frost and can traverse ice, it can also hold onto enemies longer
2015-01-08 19:53:44	Yoshi2	mhm
2015-01-08 19:53:54	UltraMario	just got the starbomb album guys
2015-01-08 19:53:56	UltraMario	it's awesome
2015-01-08 19:53:56	Yoshi2	those pikmin sound like they require their own new environments
2015-01-08 19:53:58	UltraMario	^_^
2015-01-08 19:56:14	Xtarhaven	The Yeti's covered with the snow area
2015-01-08 20:03:23	Xtarhaven	The last and maybe the most original one is:
2015-01-08 20:03:29	Xtarhaven	The Phantom Pikmin
2015-01-08 20:05:00	Yoshi2	what would that Pikmin do?
2015-01-08 20:05:17	Xtarhaven	They're Immune to all physical damage, but elemental damage kills them instantly and they deal less damage, they also have a glowing mushroom for the flower which light's up dark areas
2015-01-08 20:05:55	Yoshi2	well, that might be kind of cool
2015-01-08 20:06:05	Yoshi2	the concept needs to be tested under real circumstances though
2015-01-08 20:06:08	Xtarhaven	Also they have no eyes
2015-01-08 20:06:23	Xtarhaven	to add to the "phantom" look
2015-01-08 20:06:40	Yoshi2	it might be a bit too spooky considering that Pikmin are usually bright and cute
2015-01-08 20:07:34	Xtarhaven	2spooky
2015-01-08 20:07:40	Yoshi2	2spooky4me
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2015-01-08 20:10:16	Starhaven	did it again :v
2015-01-08 20:10:29	Starhaven	anyway, what do you think of them?
2015-01-08 20:11:21	Yoshi2	it might be a bit too spooky considering that Pikmin are usually bright and cute
2015-01-08 20:12:12	Yoshi2	would feel rather out of place unless the area had an appropriate theme
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2015-01-08 20:14:55	Starhaven	okay, what about the others?
2015-01-08 20:17:35	Yoshi2	sound like decent ideas, they just need a unique role in the game
2015-01-08 20:17:52	Yoshi2	so that their existence is justified
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2015-01-08 20:18:39	@PikFan	hi
2015-01-08 20:18:49	Starhaven	hello
2015-01-08 20:19:00	Yoshi2	I'd prefer not to fill up the game with more pikmin if the new pikmin don't differ very much from the old pikmin
2015-01-08 20:19:05	@PikFan	'kay so we got our iPads back
2015-01-08 20:19:06	Yoshi2	hey PikFan 
2015-01-08 20:19:27	@PikFan	wait what'd I walk into today?
2015-01-08 20:20:09	Starhaven	just some Pikmin ideas from me
2015-01-08 20:20:38	Yoshi2	<Xtarhaven> anyway the green one is called the Thorned Pikmin, as they have thorns all over them along with a rose for the flower
2015-01-08 20:20:38	Yoshi2	<Xtarhaven> But instead of the old green acid, it would just be any corrosive liquid, like stomach acid
2015-01-08 20:20:38	Yoshi2	<Xtarhaven> Because animals today don't use actual Acid
2015-01-08 20:20:38	Yoshi2	<Xtarhaven> The cyan one is the Yeti Pikmin, it's resistant to frost and can traverse ice, it can also hold onto enemies longer
2015-01-08 20:20:42	@PikFan	oh, I see
2015-01-08 20:21:07	Starhaven	don't forget the Phantom Pikmin
2015-01-08 20:21:09	Yoshi2	<Xtarhaven> The Phantom Pikmin
2015-01-08 20:21:11	Yoshi2	<Xtarhaven> They're Immune to all physical damage, but elemental damage kills them instantly and they deal less damage, they also have a glowing mushroom for the flower which light's up dark areas
2015-01-08 20:21:21	Starhaven	Yoshi thinks they're 2spooky
2015-01-08 20:21:28	Yoshi2	yes
2015-01-08 20:21:36	@PikFan	heh, my game goes a little overboard in terms of number of Pikmin species
2015-01-08 20:21:38	@PikFan	hehe
2015-01-08 20:22:00	Yoshi2	what happened to the KISS principle? D:
2015-01-08 20:22:08	@PikFan	at least I balanced it
2015-01-08 20:22:22	@PikFan	don't know when I'll update it
2015-01-08 20:22:53	Starhaven	hey Pikfan, how do you like the Phantom Pikmin, has anyone done that before?
2015-01-08 20:23:18	@PikFan	probably by Extember 32nd, 20XX
2015-01-08 20:23:47	@PikFan	hmm, it certainly is an interesting concept
2015-01-08 20:25:39	Yoshi2	though the idea of phantoms taking no damage is not new, I don't think anybody has applied it to Pikmin
2015-01-08 20:25:43	@PikFan	can't say I've seen it before
2015-01-08 20:26:04	Yoshi2	but I'm not an expert on what kind of Pikmin people have thought up so far :>
2015-01-08 20:26:19	@PikFan	(sorry for slow responses, being distracted by RL friends)
2015-01-08 20:26:33	@PikFan	oh, right
2015-01-08 20:26:45	@PikFan	I remembered what I wanted to say
2015-01-08 20:27:19	Yoshi2	for somebody who is being distracted by RL friends, you are replying very quickly
2015-01-08 20:27:52	@PikFan	okay so I'm going to be deleting {{f:Pikipedia}}, because it isn't used as much as {{f:Real}}
2015-01-08 20:27:53	Testyo	"Pikipedia}},_because_it_isn't_used_as_much_as_{{f:Real" template = http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Template:Pikipedia}},_because_it_isn't_used_as_much_as_{{f:Real
2015-01-08 20:28:09	@PikFan	...
2015-01-08 20:28:18	@PikFan	Testyo is broken
2015-01-08 20:28:19	Testyo	so I guess my work here is all dat l need
2015-01-08 20:28:32	@PikFan	yes, your work is finished
2015-01-08 20:28:45	@PikFan	anyway...
2015-01-08 20:29:31	@PikFan	T:Pikipedia will be deleted, and T:Canon will be made into a, uh...
2015-01-08 20:29:38	@PikFan	hmm
2015-01-08 20:29:43	Yoshi2	huh
2015-01-08 20:29:52	Yoshi2	that seems like a recursion fail
2015-01-08 20:30:00	@PikFan	well, a notification template
2015-01-08 20:30:07	Starhaven	I don't know what that is so i'm fine with it :y
2015-01-08 20:30:38	@PikFan	also: [[f:Piklopedia]]
2015-01-08 20:30:39	Testyo	"Piklopedia" article = http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Piklopedia
2015-01-08 20:31:03	@PikFan	should I make it a disambig, with a link to the canon article?
2015-01-08 20:31:35	Starhaven	hm, i'd say disambig
2015-01-08 20:32:20	@PikFan	yeah...
2015-01-08 20:32:34	 *	@PikFan waits for Espyo to respond
2015-01-08 20:32:41	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-08 20:32:48	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-08 20:32:57	@PikFan	...that was fast
2015-01-08 20:33:22	@Espyo	the hell, Testyo
2015-01-08 20:33:23	Testyo	windows things just call it a little better
2015-01-08 20:33:43	@Espyo	I get a sound notification when somebody mentions my name
2015-01-08 20:33:44	@J	.
2015-01-08 20:33:58	@Espyo	that article is filled with nothing, though
2015-01-08 20:33:59	@Espyo	hey J
2015-01-08 20:34:02	@PikFan	.
2015-01-08 20:34:38	@PikFan	but I was thinking it could be a disambig for all the fan made Piklopedias
2015-01-08 20:34:51	@Espyo	oh, those exist?
2015-01-08 20:34:52	@Espyo	then yeah
2015-01-08 20:35:32	@PikFan	there's TONS of them
2015-01-08 20:35:43	@PikFan	just search it
2015-01-08 20:36:11	@PikFan	maybe I shouldn't say tons, but still a lot
2015-01-08 20:40:09	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-08 20:40:37	@PikFan	oh, what was with the vandal earlier?
2015-01-08 20:40:45	@Espyo	he appeared before
2015-01-08 20:41:03	@Espyo	check the history on the pages that got vandalized today
2015-01-08 20:41:09	@Espyo	and you'll see other CAPS LOCK NICKNAMES
2015-01-08 20:42:21	@PikFan	were they hidden because the nicknames were that bad?
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2015-01-08 20:45:00	@PikFan	permissions error, can't view them
2015-01-08 20:45:06	@Espyo	one of the nicknames was, I think
2015-01-08 20:45:13	@Espyo	anyway, THESE ones didn't have the NICK hidden
2015-01-08 20:45:15	@Espyo	just the content
2015-01-08 20:45:21	@Espyo	could offend younger people who check the histoy
2015-01-08 20:45:23	@Espyo	*history
2015-01-08 20:45:26	@Espyo	...probably nobody
2015-01-08 20:45:37	@PikFan	so why hide it?
2015-01-08 20:47:57	@PikFan	ooh, I want to work on my fanfic
2015-01-08 20:48:03	@PikFan	going now
2015-01-08 20:48:07	@PikFan	bye
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2015-01-08 20:48:37	Starhaven	oh god, that can only turn out great
2015-01-08 20:50:11	@Espyo	I hid it because better safe than sorry
2015-01-08 20:50:20	@Espyo	the spam is better off just forgotten
2015-01-08 20:50:27	@Espyo	otherwise in a bit, Pikipedia is a spammer discussion forum
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2015-01-08 21:39:34	@Espyo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U5th801mwk
2015-01-08 21:39:36	@Espyo	well, that's a thing
2015-01-08 21:40:52	Yoshi2	a Pikmin TAS?
2015-01-08 21:43:09	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-08 21:43:13	@Espyo	a poorly-optimized one at that...
2015-01-08 21:43:21	@Espyo	it tries to reach the bad ending, with 0 ship parts
2015-01-08 21:43:29	@Espyo	it's entertaining (if you skip days 2 to 29)
2015-01-08 21:43:37	@Espyo	but it deserved to be better optimized
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2015-01-08 22:27:35	Starhaven	so does anyone have some enemy ideas?
2015-01-08 22:29:44	@Espyo	I have a few I'll add on my actual fangame
2015-01-08 22:29:48	@Espyo	but I'm not quite ready to share them yet
2015-01-08 22:30:40	Starhaven	understandable
2015-01-08 22:31:08	Starhaven	Just what ever pops into your head, like...
2015-01-08 22:31:56	Starhaven	Spitfire Beetle: it aims at your pikmin, shooting multiple small fireballs
2015-01-08 22:32:56	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-08 22:33:46	Starhaven	I actually have a stub article for that http://www.pikminfanon.com/Spitfire_beetle
2015-01-08 22:37:59	@Espyo	oh yeah
2015-01-08 22:38:11	Starhaven	Putrid Aristocrab: Has a smaller claw and shoots bubbles more often, they're poisonous too
2015-01-08 22:46:03	@Espyo	most of the enemy ideas I have are completely new creatures
2015-01-08 22:46:08	@Espyo	instead of alterations to existing ones
2015-01-08 22:46:16	@Espyo	I'm not saying that that's BAD, though
2015-01-08 22:49:06	Starhaven	yeah, there's like 5 different bulborbs
2015-01-08 22:49:51	Starhaven	I was thinking of a fox like enemy, for a nine-tailed fox boss
2015-01-08 22:50:49	@Espyo	crazy
2015-01-08 22:59:25	Starhaven	It's hard to come up with aliens that are in the pikmin game's style
2015-01-08 23:00:25	Starhaven	Like I was just thinking about some insect raindeer that would prance around
2015-01-08 23:03:22	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-08 23:04:11	Starhaven	but how would I design that?
2015-01-08 23:11:38	@Espyo	good question
2015-01-08 23:11:42	@Espyo	I really can't imagine it
2015-01-08 23:14:21	Starhaven	What about the Beebs in Nintendo Land, how would they look?
2015-01-08 23:14:48	@Espyo	I got Nintendo Land recenyl
2015-01-08 23:14:50	@Espyo	*recently
2015-01-08 23:14:54	@Espyo	and I played a bit of Pikmin Adventure
2015-01-08 23:14:59	@Espyo	but I can't really remember which ones are the Beebs
2015-01-08 23:16:17	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User account WOOOOOOOOOOOO created http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User:WOOOOOOOOOOOO
2015-01-08 23:16:22	Starhaven	the Purple orbs that roll sometime
2015-01-08 23:17:06	@Espyo	can't really remember that
2015-01-08 23:17:11	@Espyo	I didn't play that much
2015-01-08 23:17:16	@Espyo	I really oughta, though
2015-01-08 23:17:20	@Espyo	I'll try to play some more this weekend
2015-01-08 23:18:05	Starhaven	The Final boss is pretty hard if you don't know how to dodge properly
2015-01-08 23:25:30	Starhaven	how about some flying enemy who only appears in dark areas, and it's red eyes are the only visible thing as they circle around you
2015-01-08 23:25:58	Starhaven	and their eye spark to show they're going to charge at you
2015-01-08 23:29:36	@Espyo	creepy
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2015-01-08 23:40:48	Starhaven	so, do you have any ideas off the top of your head?
2015-01-08 23:44:54	@Espyo	bad time to ask
2015-01-08 23:44:58	@Espyo	I'm really tired, and heading off to bed now
2015-01-08 23:45:08	@Espyo	I can hardly visualize things in front of me, much less in my head
2015-01-08 23:45:11	@Espyo	so... tired...
2015-01-08 23:45:12	@Espyo	good night
2015-01-08 23:49:47	Starhaven	bye
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2015-01-09 00:03:05	WOOOOOOOOOOOO	YOU FUCK-ASS FAGGETS LOOK AT THE MOTHERFUCKING TIMELINE YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2015-01-09 02:03:12	Xtarhaven	hey the new user was a vandal
2015-01-09 02:04:37	Xtarhaven	look at the recent changes and chringe
2015-01-09 02:05:06	Xtarhaven	I'll at least change mine back by myself
2015-01-09 02:06:50	Xtarhaven	good luck with the rest
2015-01-09 02:10:51	Xtarhaven	nevermind, Pikfan took care of it
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2015-01-09 17:01:06	Beenish	Hi 
2015-01-09 17:02:11	Beenish	:)
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2015-01-09 18:31:02	@J	oh, it's Metroid Prime right now
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2015-01-09 18:51:29	@J	hey
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2015-01-09 18:51:39	@J	uh
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2015-01-09 19:04:28	@J	having fun?
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2015-01-09 19:34:12	Xtarhaven	yello
2015-01-09 19:34:16	UltraMario	hi
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2015-01-09 19:34:24	Testyo	Evening everyone!
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2015-01-09 19:39:11	Yoshi2_	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-01-09 19:39:11	Testyo	a pretty good estimate of when he's coming back
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2015-01-09 19:39:26	UltraMario	hi
2015-01-09 19:40:17	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-09 19:40:31	@Espyo	Testyo is a pretty good estimate of when I'm coming back
2015-01-09 19:40:32	Testyo	it would help if your 'advanced language' example was actually English
2015-01-09 19:40:39	@Espyo	woah
2015-01-09 19:40:40	@Espyo	woah
2015-01-09 19:42:59	Yoshi2	daaaaamn
2015-01-09 19:43:16	Yoshi2	Testyo: lm
2015-01-09 19:43:17	Testyo	I said it would help if your 'advanced language' example was actually English because Espyo mentioned my name. This random message came from the messages it would help if your 'advanced language' example was actually English and it just takes a lot of patience. They were joined by the common word it.
2015-01-09 19:43:34	Yoshi2	nevermind
2015-01-09 19:43:48	Yoshi2	testyo cheated again
2015-01-09 19:43:49	Testyo	all to nerf the last few buildings
2015-01-09 19:45:39	UltraMario	building too op plz nerg
2015-01-09 19:45:41	UltraMario	.
2015-01-09 19:45:44	UltraMario	*nerf
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2015-01-09 20:56:35	Xtarhaven	Phantai Family - Azure Katsune: A one eyed fox-like creature surrounded in a mysterious blue energy, can be touched by any pikmin but does several attacks with this energy that no pikmin is resistant too
2015-01-09 20:58:20	UltraMario	hi
2015-01-09 20:58:23	UltraMario	huh?
2015-01-09 20:58:23	Xtarhaven	Phantai Family - Vengeful Katsune: A one eyed fox-like creature surrounded by light purple fire, only red pikmin can touch it
2015-01-09 20:58:32	Xtarhaven	just ideas
2015-01-09 21:01:08	UltraMario	oh
2015-01-09 21:02:59	Yoshi2	why Phantai?
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2015-01-09 21:04:42	Xtarhaven	Phantom - Yokai
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2015-01-09 21:07:24	Yoshi2	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y%C5%8Dkai
2015-01-09 21:07:34	Yoshi2	Yōkai (妖怪?, ghost, phantom, strange apparition)
2015-01-09 21:08:02	Yoshi2	so you have merged Phantom and its Japanese equivalent into a single word
2015-01-09 21:08:21	Xtarhaven	Totally ORIGINAL right :^)
2015-01-09 21:08:40	Yoshi2	definitely
2015-01-09 21:09:00	Xtarhaven	at least it's not Grub-dog
2015-01-09 21:09:04	Yoshi2	well, coming up with good names is difficult
2015-01-09 21:09:50	Xtarhaven	yea
2015-01-09 21:11:57	Yoshi2	when coming up with names for my programming projects, I just take the first thing that comes into my mind and run with it
2015-01-09 21:13:20	Yoshi2	and because I program in Python, I often put "py" somewhere in the name
2015-01-09 21:16:31	Xtarhaven	Still don't know what to do with a gazelle type enemy\
2015-01-09 21:16:54	Xtarhaven	might have a Xerneas look, with the spike feet
2015-01-09 21:17:38	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-09 21:18:06	Xtarhaven	hey espyo
2015-01-09 21:18:45	Xtarhaven	just got the design down for my fox enemy
2015-01-09 21:19:35	Xtarhaven	Phantai Family - Azure Katsune: A one eyed fox-like creature surrounded in a mysterious blue energy, can be touched by any pikmin but does several attacks with this energy that no pikmin is resistant too
2015-01-09 21:24:26	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-09 21:24:32	@Espyo	I wonder if a small fox like that would look good
2015-01-09 21:24:36	@Espyo	it'd have to be like 10cm
2015-01-09 21:24:36	Testyo	10 cm = 3.938 in / 0.328 ft / 5.26316 Olimar-heights
2015-01-09 21:25:16	@Espyo	for the first time ever, the Olimar-heights conversion was actually useful
2015-01-09 21:26:16	Xtarhaven	Well it's not gonna be an actual fox
2015-01-09 21:26:37	Xtarhaven	are mammals even alive in the pikmin universe?
2015-01-09 21:27:01	Xtarhaven	wait, there's the rats in pikmin 3
2015-01-09 21:27:26	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-09 21:29:18	Xtarhaven	it'd probably be some weird insect mimicking the shape of a fox
2015-01-09 21:30:43	Xtarhaven	anyway, did you see the vandal last night?
2015-01-09 21:31:38	Xtarhaven	it was the new user
2015-01-09 21:39:28	@Espyo	yep
2015-01-09 21:39:31	@Espyo	banned him right away
2015-01-09 21:39:35	@Espyo	oh, you mean on fanon
2015-01-09 21:39:49	@Espyo	I actually did, because I accidentally opened the fanon recent changes instead of the Pikipedia ones lol
2015-01-09 21:39:52	@Espyo	but I see he's been taken care of
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2015-01-09 23:42:06	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User account Nigmin created http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User:Nigmin
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2015-01-10 12:01:39	Testyo	Hello everyone!
2015-01-10 12:02:12	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-10 12:02:13	Testyo	let's just one to reduce unnecessary creating and deleting.
2015-01-10 12:06:34	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-10 12:12:07	@J	hi
2015-01-10 12:13:10	Yoshi2	hey J 
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2015-01-10 12:48:28	@Espyo	hi
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2015-01-10 15:16:04	Xtarhaven	ay
2015-01-10 15:19:19	@Espyo	hey
2015-01-10 15:24:30	Yoshi2	hey Xtarhaven 
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2015-01-10 15:37:16	Testyo	k beating that game
2015-01-10 15:37:58	Yoshi2	Testyo: how far are you into the game?
2015-01-10 15:37:59	Testyo	that's not editing the Skype group today
2015-01-10 15:43:09	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Umibozu created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Umibozu
2015-01-10 15:43:10	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User account Djsparta created http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User:Djsparta
2015-01-10 15:51:13	Xtarhaven	so is Testyo like a bot?
2015-01-10 15:51:13	Testyo	CAN'T WE FANGAMES OUT THERE ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
2015-01-10 15:51:32	Yoshi2	ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ
2015-01-10 15:51:44	Yoshi2	I like the way you think, Testyo 
2015-01-10 15:51:44	Testyo	you know how, currently, our enemy infoboxes have the global seeds value, the P1-specific seeds value, the bus
2015-01-10 15:51:57	@Espyo	that he is
2015-01-10 15:52:07	@Espyo	he does more than just being stupid, though
2015-01-10 15:52:08	@Espyo	Testyo: hangman
2015-01-10 15:52:09	Testyo	Ladies and gentlemen, I've started a hangman game. You have 10 tries to guess this 4 letter word. Start guessing!
2015-01-10 15:52:11	@Espyo	e
2015-01-10 15:52:11	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 9/10   _ _ _ _, There is no e.
2015-01-10 15:52:13	@Espyo	r
2015-01-10 15:52:14	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 8/10   _ _ _ _, There is no r.
2015-01-10 15:52:15	@Espyo	t
2015-01-10 15:52:15	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 7/10   _ _ _ _, There is no t.
2015-01-10 15:52:16	@Espyo	s
2015-01-10 15:52:16	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 6/10   _ _ _ _, There is no s.
2015-01-10 15:52:20	@Espyo	...tough word
2015-01-10 15:52:20	@Espyo	i
2015-01-10 15:52:21	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 5/10   _ _ _ _, There is no i.
2015-01-10 15:52:22	@Espyo	o
2015-01-10 15:52:22	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 4/10   _ _ _ _, There is no o.
2015-01-10 15:52:24	Xtarhaven	s
2015-01-10 15:52:24	@Espyo	u
2015-01-10 15:52:24	Testyo	The letter s was already used.
2015-01-10 15:52:25	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 4/10   _ U _ _, There is 1 u.
2015-01-10 15:52:27	@Espyo	a
2015-01-10 15:52:27	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 3/10   _ U _ _, There is no a.
2015-01-10 15:52:31	Yoshi2	there is a channel just for playing around with test-yo
2015-01-10 15:52:32	Xtarhaven	f
2015-01-10 15:52:32	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 2/10   _ U _ _, There is no f.
2015-01-10 15:52:41	@Espyo	jump?
2015-01-10 15:52:47	Xtarhaven	j
2015-01-10 15:52:48	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 1/10   _ U _ _, There is no j.
2015-01-10 15:52:56	Yoshi2	#testyo
2015-01-10 15:52:57	Testyo	hmm way to remind people of the article
2015-01-10 15:53:16	Yoshi2	p
2015-01-10 15:53:17	Testyo	Game over! The word was dunk.
2015-01-10 15:53:20	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-10 15:53:23	Yoshi2	that is cheating
2015-01-10 15:53:26	Xtarhaven	pls
2015-01-10 15:53:31	Yoshi2	a word with only one vowel
2015-01-10 15:53:44	Xtarhaven	Testyo: hangman
2015-01-10 15:53:45	Testyo	Ladies and gentlemen, I've started a hangman game. You have 10 tries to guess this 7 letter word. Start guessing!
2015-01-10 15:53:52	Xtarhaven	p
2015-01-10 15:53:52	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 9/10   _ _ _ _ _ _ _, There is no p.
2015-01-10 15:53:54	Yoshi2	a
2015-01-10 15:53:54	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 9/10   _ A _ _ _ _ _, There is 1 a.
2015-01-10 15:53:56	Yoshi2	e
2015-01-10 15:53:57	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 9/10   _ A _ _ _ E _, There is 1 e.
2015-01-10 15:53:59	Yoshi2	i
2015-01-10 15:53:59	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 8/10   _ A _ _ _ E _, There is no i.
2015-01-10 15:54:01	Yoshi2	o
2015-01-10 15:54:01	Xtarhaven	s
2015-01-10 15:54:02	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 7/10   _ A _ _ _ E _, There is no o.
2015-01-10 15:54:02	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 7/10   _ A _ S _ E _, There is 1 s.
2015-01-10 15:54:06	Yoshi2	u
2015-01-10 15:54:06	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 6/10   _ A _ S _ E _, There is no u.
2015-01-10 15:54:14	Xtarhaven	t
2015-01-10 15:54:14	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 6/10   _ A _ S T E _, There is 1 t.
2015-01-10 15:54:18	Xtarhaven	d
2015-01-10 15:54:18	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 5/10   _ A _ S T E _, There is no d.
2015-01-10 15:54:30	Xtarhaven	y
2015-01-10 15:54:31	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 4/10   _ A _ S T E _, There is no y.
2015-01-10 15:54:34	Yoshi2	r
2015-01-10 15:54:35	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 4/10   _ A _ S T E R, There is 1 r.
2015-01-10 15:54:50	Xtarhaven	huh....
2015-01-10 15:55:22	Xtarhaven	k
2015-01-10 15:55:22	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 3/10   _ A _ S T E R, There is no k.
2015-01-10 15:55:29	Xtarhaven	uh...
2015-01-10 15:55:33	Yoshi2	c
2015-01-10 15:55:34	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 2/10   _ A _ S T E R, There is no c.
2015-01-10 15:55:39	Yoshi2	p
2015-01-10 15:55:39	Testyo	The letter p was already used.
2015-01-10 15:55:42	Xtarhaven	m
2015-01-10 15:55:42	Testyo	|---O-<-<    Tries: 2/10   _ A M S T E R, There is 1 m.
2015-01-10 15:55:47	Yoshi2	hamster
2015-01-10 15:55:47	Testyo	Yoshi2 wins! It took 8 tries to guess the word hamster. Yoshi2 has won 1 game so far.
2015-01-10 15:55:58	Xtarhaven	huzzah
2015-01-10 15:56:00	Yoshi2	Xtarhaven: for more games, go to #Testyo
2015-01-10 15:56:01	Testyo	yeah, I have no idea
2015-01-10 15:56:07	Yoshi2	me and Espyo are in that channel too
2015-01-10 15:56:19	Yoshi2	so that this channel won't be spammed so much
2015-01-10 15:56:30	Xtarhaven	ah ok
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2015-01-10 16:29:46	Xtarhaven	You guys got any ideas for enemy variants?
2015-01-10 16:29:58	@Espyo	not that I can remember
2015-01-10 16:30:03	@Espyo	I would if I thought about them
2015-01-10 16:33:03	Xtarhaven	hmm...how about a wollywog that releases poison when it lands, but that's probably been done before
2015-01-10 16:35:48	Xtarhaven	...a Dirigibug that throws boulders instead of bombrocks, but actually aims at the pikmin
2015-01-10 16:36:22	@Espyo	scary
2015-01-10 16:38:18	Xtarhaven	It will be vulnerable longer after it throws it than a Careening Dirigibug, and it will be weighed down while holding the rock
2015-01-10 16:45:02	Xtarhaven	maybe a Lithopod that lives in dark areas, they would shoot rock covered in bioluminescent (mold?) (bacteria?)
2015-01-10 16:45:40	Xtarhaven	really only an visual variant
2015-01-10 16:49:24	Xtarhaven	a passive Scarab Beetle that lives in the water, maybe a aggressive version too
2015-01-10 16:52:58	Xtarhaven	A moth version of the Spectralid that release poison while flying
2015-01-10 16:59:56	Xtarhaven	so?
2015-01-10 17:01:24	Yoshi2	I am unable to imagine how well those enemies would work 
2015-01-10 17:01:37	@Espyo	I thought you said "a flying version of the spectralid" at first lol
2015-01-10 17:02:22	Xtarhaven	how so yoshi?
2015-01-10 17:02:58	Yoshi2	needs some play testing to see if the enemy is a fun enemy
2015-01-10 17:04:48	Xtarhaven	well do you have any ideas smart guy?
2015-01-10 17:15:37	Yoshi2	alternatively, I suppose it should be possible to test enemy concepts on paper
2015-01-10 17:16:30	Xtarhaven	really?
2015-01-10 17:17:40	Yoshi2	no idea, I'm not a game designer :s
2015-01-10 17:18:57	@Espyo	you can judge if something's good in theory
2015-01-10 17:19:01	@Espyo	but that won't mean it's good in practice
2015-01-10 17:19:13	@Espyo	like, I'll just make up an example as I go
2015-01-10 17:19:17	@Espyo	your poison spectralid
2015-01-10 17:19:26	@Espyo	it could make sense, and you'd have to use whites and such
2015-01-10 17:19:42	@Espyo	but if the spectralids always appear in groups, and spontaneously
2015-01-10 17:19:55	@Espyo	the player might not have enough time to react, before they disappear
2015-01-10 17:20:09	@Espyo	by react I mean dismissing and putting the non-whites in a safe place, and then coming back with whites to attack
2015-01-10 17:20:18	@Espyo	instead of being a spectralid, but that needs whites
2015-01-10 17:20:28	@Espyo	it becomes just a spontaneous panic-creator
2015-01-10 17:20:35	@Espyo	that's why the enemies always have to be tested
2015-01-10 17:20:38	@Espyo	but ideas are just ideas, so...
2015-01-10 17:23:03	Yoshi2	game development can be suprisingly dynamic, things are cut from the final game all the time
2015-01-10 17:23:54	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-10 17:25:08	Xtarhaven	I mean the Spectralids in Pikmin 3 usually don't appear in groups, it would just be one big moth
2015-01-10 17:25:39	Xtarhaven	it'll act like those ones
2015-01-10 17:26:01	Xtarhaven	not instantly killed though
2015-01-10 17:26:13	@Espyo	right, but I was thinking of the Pikmin 2 ones
2015-01-10 17:26:17	Xtarhaven	yeah
2015-01-10 17:26:24	@Espyo	it could work
2015-01-10 17:27:15	Xtarhaven	Maybe it could land on a object above you can spread the poison that way instead of when it's flying
2015-01-10 17:27:46	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-10 17:36:36	Xtarhaven	In my "abandoned" fangame I had three extra areas, two of the caves had new enemy ideas, Clay Sanctuary had these clay soldiers that looked like gyroids, and Texgnome Complex had some tribe like enemy
2015-01-10 17:37:50	Xtarhaven	the Texgnomes would have different wood mask and "weapons"
2015-01-10 17:38:17	Xtarhaven	Like the "guard" would have a spiked club
2015-01-10 17:39:12	@Espyo	hmm
2015-01-10 17:39:16	@Espyo	sound really trippy
2015-01-10 17:40:14	Xtarhaven	and the "sniper" would have a poison blowdart, and the "Warrior" would have a make-shift sword
2015-01-10 17:42:55	Xtarhaven	One cave was called the Toxic Train Station, that would have some poisonous centipede boss, like the Pinchipede from Nintendo Land
2015-01-10 17:43:42	Xtarhaven	And there would be a Cave in a massive Eel called the Internal Maze
2015-01-10 17:45:29	Xtarhaven	here i'll post a the names of all of them, if you want
2015-01-10 17:46:23	Xtarhaven	better yet i'll just link it
2015-01-10 17:46:33	Xtarhaven	http://www.pikminfanon.com/Pikmin_4:_Curse_of_Astromountain
2015-01-10 17:47:54	Xtarhaven	see any that stand out to you?
2015-01-10 17:50:48	@Espyo	sorry, I'm a bit busy working on the engine
2015-01-10 17:50:50	@Espyo	so I can't really check
2015-01-10 17:51:41	Xtarhaven	engine?
2015-01-10 17:52:19	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-10 17:52:24	@Espyo	http://www.pikminfanon.com/Topic:Pikmin_Engine_by_Espyo
2015-01-10 17:53:04	Xtarhaven	oh man, how's it going then?
2015-01-10 17:53:21	@Espyo	so far so good
2015-01-10 17:53:26	@Espyo	I'm changing a lot of code now
2015-01-10 17:53:38	@Espyo	you know how enemies can't walk backwards or to the sides, in the games?
2015-01-10 17:53:46	@Espyo	they can in the engine, so I'm changing to match the games
2015-01-10 17:53:49	@Espyo	and I'm changing a lot of things
2015-01-10 17:53:54	@Espyo	chances are this thing's gonna crash
2015-01-10 17:54:15	Xtarhaven	hm
2015-01-10 17:54:56	Xtarhaven	neat
2015-01-10 17:55:58	Xtarhaven	well if you can't check the fangame i'll just tell you the names that I like the most
2015-01-10 17:56:50	@Espyo	all right
2015-01-10 17:57:26	Xtarhaven	Abyssal Stronghold, Spacial Spire, Lightshow Lake, Dusk Labyrinth, Spiteful Shore, Heart of Space, Spectrum Cave, Mirror Tunnels
2015-01-10 17:57:57	Xtarhaven	what about you yoshi, what do you think of them?
2015-01-10 17:59:19	@Espyo	they sound good
2015-01-10 18:00:29	Xtarhaven	thanks
2015-01-10 18:03:00	Xtarhaven	It's sort of hard to come up with names that don't have "of"
2015-01-10 18:03:09	@Espyo	hm, yeah, a bit
2015-01-10 18:05:29	Xtarhaven	oh two others that I love are: Toy Box of Terror and Jigsaw Meadows :3 
2015-01-10 18:05:38	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-10 18:17:44	Yoshi2	the names do sound quite decent
2015-01-10 18:19:02	Yoshi2	names with "of" can quite easily be converted into names that don't have "of"
2015-01-10 18:20:48	Xtarhaven	Terrible Toy Box, Cardial Space
2015-01-10 18:20:52	Xtarhaven	eh eh?
2015-01-10 18:22:02	Yoshi2	I didn't say they would still sound good :P
2015-01-10 18:22:14	Yoshi2	but yeah, you do have a point
2015-01-10 18:23:12	Xtarhaven	yeah, thanks
2015-01-10 18:24:01	Xtarhaven	I'm liking Cardial Space though :y
2015-01-10 18:24:49	Xtarhaven	but that sounds more like an area than a dungeon :L
2015-01-10 18:26:25	@Espyo	ah crap!
2015-01-10 18:26:27	@Espyo	it didn't crash
2015-01-10 18:26:32	@Espyo	but I forgot one important thing:
2015-01-10 18:26:39	Xtarhaven	and that's a bad thing?
2015-01-10 18:26:43	@Espyo	if they're too close to the target point and they go beyond...
2015-01-10 18:26:52	@Espyo	the only way they have to go back is to turn around and try again
2015-01-10 18:26:56	@Espyo	because they can't walk backwards
2015-01-10 18:27:06	@Espyo	and on the engine, Louie is super-fast because it's easier to go to places, for testing
2015-01-10 18:27:09	@Espyo	and I called Louie in...
2015-01-10 18:27:16	@Espyo	well, I'll just record a gif
2015-01-10 18:27:17	@Espyo	this is too good
2015-01-10 18:27:56	Xtarhaven	o, yeah tell me the details of the engine, does it have models?
2015-01-10 18:28:37	Xtarhaven	but I guess the gif will speak for it self, never mind
2015-01-10 18:29:47	@J	like the breadbugs all over again?
2015-01-10 18:30:14	@Espyo	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/Louie%20Cyclone.gif
2015-01-10 18:30:16	@Espyo	J: pretty much
2015-01-10 18:30:17	@Espyo	but smaller radius
2015-01-10 18:31:03	Xtarhaven	cool, it's a bird eye view
2015-01-10 18:31:14	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-10 18:31:19	@Espyo	I'm keeping a collection of all of these bloopers
2015-01-10 18:31:39	@Espyo	Xtarhaven: it wouldn't really work well with models, because people are meant to make their own enemies and levels
2015-01-10 18:31:47	@Espyo	and it's too hard to make good-looking 3D things
2015-01-10 18:31:51	Xtarhaven	yeah
2015-01-10 18:32:02	Xtarhaven	Pixel art "could" work
2015-01-10 18:32:34	Xtarhaven	not in 3d of course
2015-01-10 18:33:40	Xtarhaven	but I guess that looks better
2015-01-10 18:35:22	Xtarhaven	that reminds me, i'm trying to get into pixel art, i've made a little wizard character if you'd like to see
2015-01-10 18:35:57	@Espyo	sure thing
2015-01-10 18:36:13	Xtarhaven	just got to upload it to a image
2015-01-10 18:37:07	Xtarhaven	it will be really small though, you might have to zoom in
2015-01-10 18:37:43	@Espyo	okay
2015-01-10 18:38:26	Xtarhaven	http://40.media.tumblr.com/547909719c76aab74b40f79163a4c8db/tumblr_nhz532X2Ln1tkstino1_75sq.png
2015-01-10 18:39:00	Xtarhaven	oh wow that's really small
2015-01-10 18:40:03	Xtarhaven	I call him, Wiz
2015-01-10 18:41:06	@Espyo	it looks neat, but it needs more lighting IMO
2015-01-10 18:42:31	Xtarhaven	thanks, i'll work on that
2015-01-10 18:42:43	Xtarhaven	but for now I'll make the pixels 3x3
2015-01-10 18:49:01	@Espyo	got a crash for no reason, while trying to load a text file
2015-01-10 18:49:05	@Espyo	rebooted the game
2015-01-10 18:49:08	@Espyo	loaded perfectly
2015-01-10 18:49:10	@Espyo	thanks visual studio
2015-01-10 18:50:11	Yoshi2	thanks obama
2015-01-10 18:50:25	Yoshi2	or bill gates, would probably be more accurate
2015-01-10 18:50:59	@Espyo	I'm so confused
2015-01-10 18:51:05	@Espyo	I don't know what I did, but they're still moving in circles
2015-01-10 18:51:14	@Espyo	and for some reason, only like 5 of the 30+ Pikmin I called came to me
2015-01-10 18:51:20	@Espyo	and it looks like a floral dance around Olimar
2015-01-10 18:51:22	@Espyo	featuring the President
2015-01-10 18:51:37	@Espyo	all this while the Mother 3 OST's playing on Winamp, and the current song is Salsa's theme
2015-01-10 18:51:43	@Espyo	this is Nirvana, right here
2015-01-10 18:52:39	Xtarhaven	amazing
2015-01-10 18:53:25	@Espyo	they're still dancing around me, but at least they all came to me this time
2015-01-10 18:53:33	@Espyo	it's actually a pretty beautiful sight
2015-01-10 18:53:35	@Espyo	mesmerizing
2015-01-10 19:00:13	Xtarhaven	finished Wiz's head and hat
2015-01-10 19:07:28	@Espyo	giid
2015-01-10 19:07:29	@Espyo	*good
2015-01-10 19:07:34	@Espyo	I have to stop programming for the day
2015-01-10 19:07:41	@Espyo	visual studio decided it doesn't actually want to compile my changes
2015-01-10 19:07:48	@Espyo	it just spends 1 minute doing nothing; the program acts the same
2015-01-10 19:07:57	@Espyo	but if I force a recompile from scratch, it works then
2015-01-10 19:08:00	@Espyo	smg
2015-01-10 19:08:01	@Espyo	*smh
2015-01-10 19:31:13	Xtarhaven	okay I finished Wiz, but I forgot the wand halfway through, it's fine
2015-01-10 19:32:23	Xtarhaven	https://38.media.tumblr.com/28b58d2f15afc2b3c87d1ec761c473e8/tumblr_nhz7lmZh0s1tkstino1_100.png
2015-01-10 19:32:41	@Espyo	looks nicer now
2015-01-10 19:32:49	Xtarhaven	thanks
2015-01-10 19:33:11	Xtarhaven	added shade to the bottom of the hat and along the left side of the robe
2015-01-10 19:34:02	Xtarhaven	oh and a bit on his head
2015-01-10 19:54:40	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Bulborb by Jpmrocks (+1914) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Bulborb&curid=280&diff=143945&oldid=134323
2015-01-10 20:14:00	Xtarhaven	so, do you guys want to do anything/
2015-01-10 20:14:48	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Bulborb by AeroBlaze777 (-387 Getting rid of Wikia code.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Bulborb&curid=280&diff=143946&oldid=143945
2015-01-10 20:15:58	Yoshi2	I do want to sleep if that counts
2015-01-10 20:16:05	Yoshi2	but it is a bit too early to go to bed
2015-01-10 20:16:43	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-10 20:16:44	@Espyo	my
2015-01-10 20:16:44	@Espyo	god
2015-01-10 20:16:47	Xtarhaven	?
2015-01-10 20:16:49	@Espyo	I've created an atom simulation
2015-01-10 20:16:49	@Espyo	help
2015-01-10 20:17:23	Yoshi2	sounds awesome
2015-01-10 20:17:49	Xtarhaven	do you two happen to have Dark Souls 2?
2015-01-10 20:18:24	@Espyo	nope
2015-01-10 20:19:05	Xtarhaven	do you have it yoshi?
2015-01-10 20:19:50	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS... by AeroBlaze777 (-15 Think it's safe to remove the {{futuregame}} by now.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Super_Smash_Bros._for_3DS_and_Wii_U&curid=9716&diff=143947&oldid=142984
2015-01-10 20:20:23	@Espyo	https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/gravity.gif
2015-01-10 20:20:59	Xtarhaven	amazing
2015-01-10 20:24:51	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Iridescent Flint Beetle by AeroBlaze777 (+661 Merged... I guess? Doesn't seem like I'm forgetting anything.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Iridescent_Flint_Beetle&curid=922&diff=143948&oldid=143938
2015-01-10 20:29:52	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Iridescent Flint Beetle by AeroBlaze777 (+852 Ah yes, notes.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Iridescent_Flint_Beetle&curid=922&diff=143949&oldid=143948
2015-01-10 20:39:56	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Hermit Crawmad by Jpmrocks (+2458) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Hermit_Crawmad&curid=860&diff=143950&oldid=124484
2015-01-10 20:39:56	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Hermit Crawmad by Jpmrocks (-37) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Hermit_Crawmad&curid=860&diff=143951&oldid=143950
2015-01-10 20:39:57	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-01-10 20:40:40	@Espyo	crud
2015-01-10 20:40:47	@Espyo	Allegro is randomly telling me I have 0 or 1 joysticks
2015-01-10 20:40:50	@Espyo	it didn't use to do this
2015-01-10 20:40:53	@Espyo	and I could easily blame windows
2015-01-10 20:40:57	@Espyo	probably will, too
2015-01-10 20:41:10	@Espyo	anyway, the problem is that half of the time, the group move is all the way to the left
2015-01-10 20:41:14	@Espyo	as if I held the C-stick left
2015-01-10 20:45:47	Yoshi2	Xtarhaven: nope, don't have it
2015-01-10 20:47:13	@Espyo	...oh
2015-01-10 20:47:26	@Espyo	I installed some GameCube adapter drivers from the Smash community
2015-01-10 20:47:33	@Espyo	it didn't work, and installed some garbage
2015-01-10 20:47:38	@Espyo	that's probably what Allegro is reading
2015-01-10 20:47:42	@Espyo	still, doesn't explain why half the time, it's fine
2015-01-10 21:03:16	@J	what are they doing
2015-01-10 21:05:04	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Hermit Crawmad by AeroBlaze777 (+428 Policy.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Hermit_Crawmad&curid=860&diff=143954&oldid=143953
2015-01-10 21:08:16	@Espyo	very good question
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2015-01-10 21:32:31	Waterpikmin	hello?
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2015-01-10 21:33:46	Xtarhaven	hello
2015-01-10 21:35:14	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Waterpikmin created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Waterpikmin
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2015-01-10 21:36:10	Waterpikmin	anyone ther?
2015-01-10 21:36:15	Waterpikmin	lol there*
2015-01-10 21:36:28	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-10 21:36:34	Waterpikmin	hi there!
2015-01-10 21:36:38	@Espyo	oh, I see you've just created an account
2015-01-10 21:36:39	@Espyo	welcome!
2015-01-10 21:37:07	Waterpikmin	thanks! i cant wait to get interacting with the community!
2015-01-10 21:37:26	Waterpikmin	my first game ever was pikmin 2, so im a huge fan of the games
2015-01-10 21:37:27	@Espyo	half of the editing community is here, the other half is on a skype group
2015-01-10 21:37:30	@Espyo	nice
2015-01-10 21:37:36	@Espyo	any Pikmin game is a good one to start n
2015-01-10 21:37:37	@Espyo	*on
2015-01-10 21:37:49	Waterpikmin	ive played and completed all three
2015-01-10 21:38:02	@Espyo	what about no-death runs?
2015-01-10 21:38:24	Waterpikmin	you mean no dead captains correct?
2015-01-10 21:38:32	Waterpikmin	oh i get it
2015-01-10 21:38:38	Waterpikmin	you mean no dead pikmin lol
2015-01-10 21:38:44	Waterpikmin	ive never tried
2015-01-10 21:38:47	Xtarhaven	I could never do a no-death run :y
2015-01-10 21:39:00	Waterpikmin	i usually play casually
2015-01-10 21:39:04	Xtarhaven	yeah
2015-01-10 21:39:10	@Espyo	I meant no dead Pikmin, yeah
2015-01-10 21:39:13	@Espyo	it's a pretty fun challenge
2015-01-10 21:39:14	@Espyo	on any game
2015-01-10 21:39:17	@Espyo	but it's really hard
2015-01-10 21:39:20	@Espyo	oh, I've got dinner now, brb
2015-01-10 21:39:27	Waterpikmin	but i do want to try and get more content out of pikmin
2015-01-10 21:40:27	Waterpikmin	xtar want to hear a funny story
2015-01-10 21:40:31	Xtarhaven	I've heard that Miyamoto has a lot of ideas for another Pikmin, so there's a good chance for a 4th
2015-01-10 21:40:33	Xtarhaven	sure
2015-01-10 21:40:39	Waterpikmin	i know...
2015-01-10 21:40:42	Waterpikmin	i flipped
2015-01-10 21:40:56	Waterpikmin	i started to run around my house
2015-01-10 21:41:28	Waterpikmin	so when i completed pikmin 2 for the 1st time
2015-01-10 21:41:29	Testyo	1 st = 6.3503 kg / 14 lb / 224 oz
2015-01-10 21:41:41	Waterpikmin	first*
2015-01-10 21:41:46	Waterpikmin	lol
2015-01-10 21:42:33	Waterpikmin	i saw the plot twist and was legit excited
2015-01-10 21:43:20	Waterpikmin	pikmin as a series means so much to me on any level
2015-01-10 21:44:06	Yoshi2	how so?
2015-01-10 21:44:14	Xtarhaven	I remember when I first beat Pikmin 2, all my pikmin dead except 2 blue pikmin, luckily the monster pump was the last piece
2015-01-10 21:44:20	Waterpikmin	lol
2015-01-10 21:44:40	Waterpikmin	pikmin 2 was my very first game when i was younger
2015-01-10 21:45:17	Waterpikmin	ive played it for as long as i can remember
2015-01-10 21:46:26	Waterpikmin	can someone ask me some trivia questions? i want to see if i can get them right!
2015-01-10 21:46:55	Waterpikmin	im up to the challenge
2015-01-10 21:47:13	Xtarhaven	What's Pikmin can survive the basic attack of the plasmwraith
2015-01-10 21:47:37	Waterpikmin	bulbmin
2015-01-10 21:48:08	Waterpikmin	oh wait plasm wraith
2015-01-10 21:48:08	Xtarhaven	oh, uh, have you beaten the third game?
2015-01-10 21:48:13	Xtarhaven	yeah that
2015-01-10 21:48:14	Waterpikmin	not water wraith
2015-01-10 21:48:21	Waterpikmin	thats why i was confused
2015-01-10 21:48:38	Waterpikmin	i had a feeling i was wrong somewhere
2015-01-10 21:48:44	Waterpikmin	the answer is rock
2015-01-10 21:49:18	Waterpikmin	?
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2015-01-10 21:50:06	Starhaven	Ok, what is the name of the first treasure you find in Pikmin 2
2015-01-10 21:50:33	Waterpikmin	i know its a battery! its on the tip of my tounge
2015-01-10 21:50:39	Starhaven	sorry my internet kicked me out of the chat
2015-01-10 21:51:08	Waterpikmin	i got it!
2015-01-10 21:51:15	Waterpikmin	the courage reactor!
2015-01-10 21:51:47	Starhaven	correct
2015-01-10 21:51:53	Waterpikmin	yus!
2015-01-10 21:52:00	Waterpikmin	next question!
2015-01-10 21:52:25	Starhaven	What is the names of the golden fruit found in Pikmin 3's Challenge mode
2015-01-10 21:52:38	Starhaven	er, mission mode
2015-01-10 21:53:17	Waterpikmin	i know that they are a cherry and strawberry, and that they are full of piktamin u
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2015-01-10 21:53:31	Waterpikmin	i think the first one is cherry bomb?
2015-01-10 21:53:40	Waterpikmin	its been a while
2015-01-10 21:53:51	Waterpikmin	im not too sure
2015-01-10 21:53:53	Waterpikmin	lol
2015-01-10 21:53:54	Starhaven	wrong, Golden Grenade and Golden Berry
2015-01-10 21:54:04	Waterpikmin	oh lol
2015-01-10 21:54:29	Waterpikmin	idk where cherry bomb came from
2015-01-10 21:55:10	Starhaven	What was the color of the pikmin plushie shown by miyamoto in at E3
2015-01-10 21:55:20	Waterpikmin	red
2015-01-10 21:55:36	Waterpikmin	i have that kind of plushie actually
2015-01-10 21:55:57	Waterpikmin	i also have a blue pikmin hat my sister got for me at a convention
2015-01-10 21:56:22	Starhaven	correct
2015-01-10 21:56:26	Waterpikmin	yay!
2015-01-10 21:57:12	Starhaven	what day does the secret wistful wild bugs appear?
2015-01-10 21:57:50	Waterpikmin	they appear on odd numbered days after a day that im trying to remember
2015-01-10 21:58:04	Waterpikmin	at least that is what i think it is
2015-01-10 21:58:43	Waterpikmin	but i believe they do have an e card
2015-01-10 21:58:57	Starhaven	correct on the e-card part
2015-01-10 21:59:04	Starhaven	but It appears on day 31
2015-01-10 21:59:15	Waterpikmin	sweet!
2015-01-10 21:59:16	Starhaven	and every 30 days after that
2015-01-10 21:59:55	Waterpikmin	thats interesting... 
2015-01-10 22:00:21	Waterpikmin	any other questions?
2015-01-10 22:01:06	@Espyo	unlike popular belief, they don't disappear after day 300
2015-01-10 22:01:07	Starhaven	what does The Ship theorize when encountering the Waterwraith for the first time
2015-01-10 22:01:19	Starhaven	301*
2015-01-10 22:01:31	@Espyo	*301, yeah
2015-01-10 22:01:34	Waterpikmin	that the physical form is anchored in another dimension
2015-01-10 22:01:45	Starhaven	correct
2015-01-10 22:02:09	Waterpikmin	i have a strange fear of the waterwraith
2015-01-10 22:02:16	Waterpikmin	i just never liked him
2015-01-10 22:02:32	Waterpikmin	and i get a huge sense of accomplishment after beating him
2015-01-10 22:02:37	Starhaven	yeah, he legit scared me when i was younger
2015-01-10 22:02:51	Starhaven	and I was too scared to go back
2015-01-10 22:02:53	Waterpikmin	dont even get me started on the beady long legs
2015-01-10 22:03:19	Starhaven	Jump scares, man, the worst
2015-01-10 22:03:19	Waterpikmin	when that abomination appeared on my tv screen i ran out of the room
2015-01-10 22:03:49	Waterpikmin	have you ever had a hazard cutscene appear when you were on another captain
2015-01-10 22:04:04	Waterpikmin	the shaky screen with the music made me cry
2015-01-10 22:04:16	Waterpikmin	im not making that up
2015-01-10 22:04:38	Starhaven	man you sure were a wuss back then :^)
2015-01-10 22:04:46	Waterpikmin	i know
2015-01-10 22:05:03	Waterpikmin	well, it appeared out of nowhere
2015-01-10 22:05:47	Waterpikmin	which scared me badly
2015-01-10 22:06:03	Starhaven	in the first or second game?
2015-01-10 22:06:07	Waterpikmin	second
2015-01-10 22:06:14	Waterpikmin	the hazard music
2015-01-10 22:06:27	Waterpikmin	it made me panic
2015-01-10 22:07:04	Waterpikmin	anyways
2015-01-10 22:07:15	Waterpikmin	what do you want in the next pikmin gamr
2015-01-10 22:07:18	Waterpikmin	game*
2015-01-10 22:07:30	Starhaven	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWQII30z0BU&index=58&list=PL8270A5CCBAE70F4B
2015-01-10 22:07:47	Waterpikmin	lol
2015-01-10 22:08:15	Waterpikmin	good thing an advertisement saved the jumpscare
2015-01-10 22:08:22	Starhaven	more dark areas, like in Pikmin 3
2015-01-10 22:08:44	Waterpikmin	i want more general content
2015-01-10 22:08:53	Waterpikmin	the story was fine in pikmin three
2015-01-10 22:09:00	Starhaven	yeah, Pikmin 3 was a little short
2015-01-10 22:09:25	Waterpikmin	but after completing it it felt empty
2015-01-10 22:09:38	Waterpikmin	i have tried to get wr on tropical wilds
2015-01-10 22:09:57	Starhaven	wr?
2015-01-10 22:10:00	Waterpikmin	oh and do you know about the pikmin 3 patches
2015-01-10 22:10:04	Waterpikmin	world record
2015-01-10 22:10:08	Starhaven	yeah the DLCs
2015-01-10 22:10:20	Starhaven	Forest Navel Level
2015-01-10 22:10:31	Waterpikmin	like the actual real life product
2015-01-10 22:10:40	Waterpikmin	the sticky patches?
2015-01-10 22:10:52	Starhaven	never heard of them
2015-01-10 22:11:03	Waterpikmin	look them up
2015-01-10 22:11:09	Waterpikmin	pikmin patches
2015-01-10 22:11:56	Starhaven	hm, they look neat
2015-01-10 22:12:02	Waterpikmin	i have two
2015-01-10 22:12:19	Waterpikmin	they were distributed on demo day for pikmin 3
2015-01-10 22:12:27	Starhaven	oh nice
2015-01-10 22:12:30	Waterpikmin	i got the best score at the location
2015-01-10 22:13:33	Waterpikmin	i watched dazzreviews when pikmin 3 was in development a lot for news
2015-01-10 22:13:40	Waterpikmin	and dave
2015-01-10 22:13:57	Waterpikmin	im fond of their theories and rumors
2015-01-10 22:14:05	Waterpikmin	and videos
2015-01-10 22:14:13	Starhaven	yeah I've seen those
2015-01-10 22:14:17	Waterpikmin	rumors not really but you know
2015-01-10 22:14:45	Waterpikmin	my personal best on tropical wilds is 6220
2015-01-10 22:15:10	Starhaven	ymmot392
2015-01-10 22:15:21	Waterpikmin	ive seen him too
2015-01-10 22:15:22	Starhaven	was a good Pikmin youtuber
2015-01-10 22:15:43	Waterpikmin	was? as in, not anymore?
2015-01-10 22:16:23	Starhaven	I use "was" lightly, he still is, maybe, I haven't watch him lately 
2015-01-10 22:16:34	Waterpikmin	one sec
2015-01-10 22:17:05	@Espyo	tommy (ymmot) is on the skype group
2015-01-10 22:17:24	Waterpikmin	really?
2015-01-10 22:17:32	Waterpikmin	thats cool
2015-01-10 22:17:39	Starhaven	what? cool
2015-01-10 22:17:52	Starhaven	his name's Tommy?
2015-01-10 22:18:08	Waterpikmin	ive been recently watching pikcast
2015-01-10 22:18:13	Waterpikmin	and im enjoying it
2015-01-10 22:18:18	Starhaven	Pikcast?
2015-01-10 22:18:26	Waterpikmin	the podcast
2015-01-10 22:18:32	Waterpikmin	on the home page
2015-01-10 22:18:57	Starhaven	home page of this wiki? or?
2015-01-10 22:18:57	Waterpikmin	if you look at the news they just released ep 7
2015-01-10 22:19:18	Waterpikmin	if you look up pikcast its there
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2015-01-10 22:21:19	Xtarhaven	on the pikipedia, I thought you meant here
2015-01-10 22:21:39	Waterpikmin	ya
2015-01-10 22:22:44	Xtarhaven	So what be people do around the Pikipedia?
2015-01-10 22:23:04	Xtarhaven	it's "done" right?
2015-01-10 22:23:06	Waterpikmin	idk i just got here as well
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2015-01-10 22:25:31	Xtarhaven	so is this chatroom connected to the pikipedia chatroom?
2015-01-10 22:25:41	Waterpikmin	i guess
2015-01-10 22:26:11	Xtarhaven	I couldn't get in with my names to I expect it to
2015-01-10 22:26:48	Waterpikmin	what should we do?
2015-01-10 22:27:02	Waterpikmin	i wish we could play online on pikmin 3
2015-01-10 22:27:15	Waterpikmin	that needed to happen...
2015-01-10 22:27:33	Xtarhaven	yeah...
2015-01-10 22:27:49	Waterpikmin	do you have smash?
2015-01-10 22:28:43	Xtarhaven	yeah but my internet with the wii u isn't quite working
2015-01-10 22:28:51	Xtarhaven	do you have any steam games?
2015-01-10 22:29:00	Waterpikmin	i have dont starve 
2015-01-10 22:29:17	Xtarhaven	Dark souls 2?
2015-01-10 22:29:28	Waterpikmin	nope
2015-01-10 22:29:35	Xtarhaven	damn
2015-01-10 22:29:54	Xtarhaven	let's see here...
2015-01-10 22:30:08	Waterpikmin	what is your steam name?
2015-01-10 22:30:14	Xtarhaven	same as here
2015-01-10 22:30:17	Waterpikmin	ok
2015-01-10 22:31:02	Xtarhaven	Battleblock theatre, Magika, Awesomenauts, 100% orange juice
2015-01-10 22:31:19	Waterpikmin	none of them
2015-01-10 22:31:33	Xtarhaven	:/
2015-01-10 22:31:54	Xtarhaven	what multiplayer games, do you have?
2015-01-10 22:32:15	Waterpikmin	not many at all
2015-01-10 22:32:26	Waterpikmin	what games should i get?
2015-01-10 22:32:36	Xtarhaven	it depends
2015-01-10 22:32:51	Xtarhaven	Dark Souls 2 is my go to, but it might be too hard
2015-01-10 22:33:00	Xtarhaven	have you heard of the series?
2015-01-10 22:33:07	Waterpikmin	i have
2015-01-10 22:33:16	Waterpikmin	not really interested though
2015-01-10 22:33:58	Xtarhaven	hm... none of my other games I play often, too busy watching things
2015-01-10 22:34:28	Waterpikmin	do you want to theorize about pikmin
2015-01-10 22:34:32	Waterpikmin	?
2015-01-10 22:34:35	Xtarhaven	it 39.99, and it's getting a GOTY edition anway
2015-01-10 22:34:49	Xtarhaven	oh uh, hm...nah
2015-01-10 22:35:04	Waterpikmin	i know not really much to talk about
2015-01-10 22:35:07	Xtarhaven	maybe about how purple pikmin can hurt the waterwraith
2015-01-10 22:35:23	Waterpikmin	that is interesting
2015-01-10 22:35:37	Waterpikmin	i wonder where other ppl are?
2015-01-10 22:35:53	Xtarhaven	it could either be the color purple, or the sound pitch that the purple pikmin make when they land
2015-01-10 22:36:00	Xtarhaven	idk
2015-01-10 22:36:02	Waterpikmin	probably the sound
2015-01-10 22:36:39	Waterpikmin	sound waves could disturb the anchored form and transfer it to the real world
2015-01-10 22:38:40	Waterpikmin	hmm...
2015-01-10 22:39:12	Waterpikmin	seems legit
2015-01-10 22:40:56	Waterpikmin	so do you have a skype?
2015-01-10 22:42:56	Xtarhaven	yeah but I don't use it often, I was going to join the wiki group later
2015-01-10 22:43:05	Xtarhaven	I've got to go anyway
2015-01-10 22:43:12	Waterpikmin	ok see you later!
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2015-01-10 23:08:34	Waterpikmin	hello?
2015-01-10 23:08:52	Waterpikmin	i need someone to talk to
2015-01-10 23:08:58	Waterpikmin	im pretty bored 
2015-01-10 23:16:05	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikmin Short Movies by AeroBlaze777 (+37) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_Short_Movies&curid=8065&diff=143956&oldid=143877
2015-01-10 23:16:35	Waterpikmin	?
2015-01-10 23:16:53	@Espyo	Testyo reports changes to the wiki
2015-01-10 23:16:54	Testyo	and then put a warning saying all the pages so they print less
2015-01-10 23:17:17	Waterpikmin	thats nice!
2015-01-10 23:17:42	Waterpikmin	im sort of tied on my decision for what i should do first
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2015-01-10 23:21:07	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:MoviePurpleFlowers.jpg uploaded by AeroBlaze777 http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:MoviePurpleFlowers.jpg
2015-01-10 23:21:07	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikmin Short Movies by AeroBlaze777 (-7 m /* Trivia */ Better Image.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_Short_Movies&curid=8065&diff=143958&oldid=143956
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2015-01-10 23:27:55	Xtarhaven	ok i'm back
2015-01-10 23:31:58	Xtarhaven	hey Espyo, what's the name of the skype group?
2015-01-10 23:32:46	Xtarhaven	and how would I join it
2015-01-10 23:34:03	@Espyo	I'm actually not sure
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2015-01-10 23:36:13	JPMRocks	hullo
2015-01-10 23:36:29	Xtarhaven	hello
2015-01-10 23:36:57	JPMRocks	xtar, how can we assist ye
2015-01-10 23:37:41	Xtarhaven	I'd just like to join the skype group
2015-01-10 23:37:55	JPMRocks	well
2015-01-10 23:38:10	JPMRocks	how can ye benefit the Pikipedia as a whole?
2015-01-10 23:39:25	Xtarhaven	oh, I thought it just was a separate chatroom, not some...admin hangout
2015-01-10 23:39:57	Xtarhaven	Not many people are "here" so I thought
2015-01-10 23:40:10	Xtarhaven	the group would have more people
2015-01-10 23:42:59	Xtarhaven	but if you want to know what I would do, I was just gonna make a fangame, but not right now so you don't have to do it now
2015-01-10 23:45:53	Xtarhaven	So is the silence a no? I understand
2015-01-10 23:48:28	Yoshi2	Xtarhaven: let's ask Espyo and see what he can tell us
2015-01-10 23:48:41	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-10 23:48:54	@Espyo	like, I'm not familiar on how to get in the group
2015-01-10 23:48:56	@Espyo	even though I'm there
2015-01-10 23:49:04	@Espyo	it's like a remainder of the times where we were on wikia
2015-01-10 23:49:16	@Espyo	JPMRocks, he needs an answer
2015-01-10 23:51:58	Yoshi2	technically, all that is required is that somebody from the group invites you into the group
2015-01-10 23:52:26	Yoshi2	but it's been a while since I last used skype groups, so I don't remember the exact details anymore
2015-01-10 23:52:57	Xtarhaven	I saw in the comments of the first pikcast videa JPM called you "like, a myth" :y
2015-01-10 23:54:53	Xtarhaven	but if it's just the main wiki users, I don't know if i'm "that" intrested
2015-01-10 23:56:41	JPMRocks	what sorry
2015-01-10 23:56:46	JPMRocks	whatching punch out stuff
2015-01-10 23:56:52	JPMRocks	what i miss?
2015-01-10 23:57:09	JPMRocks	well, you can join the skype chat
2015-01-10 23:57:16	JPMRocks	and we can test ye i suppose
2015-01-10 23:57:25	JPMRocks	add "ShadowRaptor101" and he'll add ye
2015-01-10 23:57:56	Xtarhaven	"test"?
2015-01-10 23:59:25	JPMRocks	idk
2015-01-10 23:59:31	JPMRocks	add ShadowRaptor101
2015-01-10 23:59:39	JPMRocks	then he'll add you and we'll pass ye around
2015-01-10 23:59:48	Xtarhaven	alright
2015-01-11 00:00:33	Xtarhaven	hm, the only person who comes up is "Blue Swift" Is that him?
2015-01-11 00:00:45	JPMRocks	yep
2015-01-11 00:02:52	Xtarhaven	ok added him
2015-01-11 00:05:51	Xtarhaven	don't have a mic though so I don't know if that adds in
2015-01-11 00:06:20	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Gamingpikmin created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Gamingpikmin
2015-01-11 00:09:13	Xtarhaven	well I got to go, sorry JPMRocks, you can "test" me later, what ever that means
2015-01-11 00:09:39	Xtarhaven	nevermind
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2015-01-11 00:12:34	Yoshi2	how likely is it that there is no actual test besides maybe watching the behaviour of a user?
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2015-01-11 00:26:54	Waterpikmin	anyone there?
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2015-01-11 02:29:49	Waterpikmin	hello? anyone there?
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2015-01-11 12:18:11	Testyo	Greetings everyone!
2015-01-11 12:18:41	@J	http://ikn.org.uk/Farragone
2015-01-11 12:18:50	@J	made a release at last
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2015-01-11 12:19:17	@J	timing
2015-01-11 12:19:22	@J	[12:18:41] @J http://ikn.org.uk/Farragone
2015-01-11 12:19:24	@J	[12:18:50] @J made a release at last
2015-01-11 12:19:34	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-11 12:19:35	Testyo	is that case your ISP does suck
2015-01-11 12:20:03	@J	wow
2015-01-11 12:20:13	@J	standard Testyo greeting
2015-01-11 12:20:14	Testyo	what the game icons are still crapping out
2015-01-11 12:20:38	Yoshi2	"Farragone is a GUI batch file renamer for those who understand regular expressions, glob-style patterns and maybe a little scripting. "
2015-01-11 12:20:43	Yoshi2	regular expressions, awesome!
2015-01-11 12:27:33	Yoshi2	I do love Python for things like this: https://github.com/RenolY2/py-playBMS/blob/master/OptionsCollector.py
2015-01-11 12:27:59	Yoshi2	I can set up default values for options by creating an instance of that class with keyword arguments
2015-01-11 12:28:43	Yoshi2	and I can overload the getattr method to make it possible to use options.key to access a particular key in the dictionary inside that class
2015-01-11 12:29:50	@Espyo	hey
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2015-01-11 12:32:02	Yoshi2_	looks like my internet connection went into crap mode again
2015-01-11 12:32:11	@J	better is @property - lots of languages have __getattr__ equivalent, but @property is less common
2015-01-11 12:33:10	Yoshi2_	I have never looked into @property yet
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2015-01-11 12:37:11	Yoshi2_	hmm, that does look quite useful
2015-01-11 12:38:20	Yoshi2_	but if I understood it correctly, it requires particular variables on which I use the @property decorator
2015-01-11 12:39:36	Yoshi2_	in my case, I just want a container for all options I might need which I can pass around everywhere
2015-01-11 12:44:20	@J	yeah, I'm not saying you should use it here, I'm saying it's a more unique feature of the language
2015-01-11 12:44:31	@J	wait
2015-01-11 12:44:37	@J	or maybe it was the other way around...
2015-01-11 12:44:42	@J	probably just ignore me
2015-01-11 12:44:46	@J	@property is useful anyway
2015-01-11 12:47:15	Yoshi2_	it definitely looks useful
2015-01-11 12:48:01	Yoshi2_	that part of me that hates getters/setters is very happy about it
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2015-01-11 13:38:58	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Fowler63 created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Fowler63
2015-01-11 13:39:20	@Espyo	lots of new accounts, lately
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2015-01-11 14:52:02	Yoshi2	hm, so far nothing new from arookas 
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2015-01-11 15:09:41	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Formidable Oak by 71.1.57.234 (+4 /* Trivia */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Formidable_Oak&curid=9576&diff=143959&oldid=143340
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2015-01-11 15:18:09	Yoshi2	Espyo: https://plus.google.com/+arookas/posts
2015-01-11 15:18:35	Yoshi2	he actually wrote some posts recently concerning BMS :D
2015-01-11 15:19:19	@Espyo	oh sweet
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2015-01-11 15:20:10	Yoshi2_	"I have found the constructor for the subroutine class (zz_031cb44_). Time to get digging."
2015-01-11 15:20:33	Yoshi2_	seems like he is doing work on disassembling the subroutine code?
2015-01-11 15:20:44	@Espyo	yeah
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2015-01-11 15:43:44	Waterpikmin	hello?
2015-01-11 15:43:55	Waterpikmin	anyone there i can talk to?
2015-01-11 15:44:51	Yoshi2_	Waterpikmin: sure
2015-01-11 15:44:57	Yoshi2_	hello
2015-01-11 15:45:08	Waterpikmin	sweet! nice to meet you!
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2015-01-11 15:45:38	Yoshi2	nice to meet you too
2015-01-11 15:45:57	Waterpikmin	i joined pikipedia yesterday and im very excited to join the community
2015-01-11 15:46:39	Waterpikmin	pikmin 2 was the first game i ever played, so im very fond of everything pikmin
2015-01-11 15:46:59	Yoshi2	if you want to talk and it looks like nobody is saying anything, you can either wait a moment to see if somebody notices your messages, or you can try mentioning somebody's name
2015-01-11 15:47:23	Waterpikmin	ok! thanks!
2015-01-11 15:47:52	Yoshi2	e.g. if you wanted to talk to Espyo, who is one of the admins on the wiki, you can mention his name
2015-01-11 15:47:57	Waterpikmin	want to know something awesome that i may want to do for the merchandise section
2015-01-11 15:47:59	Waterpikmin	oh ok
2015-01-11 15:48:34	Waterpikmin	i got this new merchandise for pikmin yesterday and when i looked it up in merchandise it was not there
2015-01-11 15:48:47	Waterpikmin	i got it from nintendo world
2015-01-11 15:49:04	Waterpikmin	japanese tag and everything
2015-01-11 15:50:02	Waterpikmin	so i wanted to let you know
2015-01-11 15:50:04	Yoshi2	ah, cool
2015-01-11 15:50:15	Yoshi2	sounds like something you could add to the section
2015-01-11 15:50:36	Waterpikmin	that the merchandise may need to be updated with the stuff from nintendo world
2015-01-11 15:50:56	Waterpikmin	let me look it up so i could get pictures
2015-01-11 15:52:00	Yoshi2	http://www.nintendoworldstore.com/ this store?
2015-01-11 15:54:40	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-11 15:54:49	Waterpikmin	hi
2015-01-11 15:55:09	Waterpikmin	i just got merch from nintendo world and its not in the merchandise page
2015-01-11 15:55:19	Waterpikmin	so im going to try and work on that
2015-01-11 15:55:30	Waterpikmin	im not good with coding
2015-01-11 15:55:36	Waterpikmin	but ill try
2015-01-11 15:55:40	Waterpikmin	yes
2015-01-11 15:56:44	Waterpikmin	the nintendo world store
2015-01-11 15:57:03	Waterpikmin	should i give you the images?
2015-01-11 15:57:15	Testyo	Hello! I was dropping by to see if any of you guys have to make one w/out showing my face n' stuff
2015-01-11 15:57:47	Waterpikmin	lol
2015-01-11 15:58:42	Yoshi2	I am honestly not sure if that is an automated message from the bot or if somebody actually made the bot say it
2015-01-11 15:58:49	Waterpikmin	i know
2015-01-11 15:58:57	Waterpikmin	idk what to do
2015-01-11 15:58:58	Waterpikmin	lol
2015-01-11 16:00:17	Waterpikmin	ok i checked again and i can confirm that they are not there
2015-01-11 16:00:27	Waterpikmin	so yay!
2015-01-11 16:00:53	Yoshi2	pikmin merchandise is a bit harder to come by, so I'm not too suprised
2015-01-11 16:01:13	Waterpikmin	dont even get me stared on that
2015-01-11 16:01:21	Yoshi2	at least here, no stores sell Pikmin stuff
2015-01-11 16:01:55	Waterpikmin	nintendo world is great
2015-01-11 16:02:09	Waterpikmin	it sells a ton of stuff
2015-01-11 16:02:15	Yoshi2	it definitely looks great, I wish I had such a store nearby
2015-01-11 16:02:25	Waterpikmin	but i didnt think it would sell that merch
2015-01-11 16:02:40	Waterpikmin	its not often you get pikmin merch from there
2015-01-11 16:04:04	Waterpikmin	oh wait!
2015-01-11 16:04:19	Waterpikmin	with the merge it actually has the plush that i got!
2015-01-11 16:04:32	Waterpikmin	so it is there its just not finalized
2015-01-11 16:05:11	Waterpikmin	so i guess it is there after all!
2015-01-11 16:05:27	Waterpikmin	on the merchandise/merge page
2015-01-11 16:05:48	Yoshi2	oh
2015-01-11 16:06:39	Waterpikmin	if you go on the merchandise merge page you can see it on the plush section the plush cups
2015-01-11 16:08:37	Waterpikmin	but i did see a typo on the merchandise page
2015-01-11 16:09:47	Waterpikmin	you there?
2015-01-11 16:09:49	Yoshi2	yep
2015-01-11 16:10:16	Yoshi2	mhm, yes
2015-01-11 16:10:34	Yoshi2	the plushies are in the merge page, but not in the normal page
2015-01-11 16:11:18	Waterpikmin	the typo says on the clothing section says "introduces" not "introduced"
2015-01-11 16:12:11	Waterpikmin	should something be done?
2015-01-11 16:12:15	Yoshi2	I can imagine that there are more typos hidden in the wiki
2015-01-11 16:12:32	Waterpikmin	oh definetly
2015-01-11 16:12:49	Yoshi2	*definitely
2015-01-11 16:12:51	Yoshi2	;)
2015-01-11 16:13:02	Waterpikmin	would i be able to edit the typo and lol thx
2015-01-11 16:13:36	Waterpikmin	all im doing is replacing one word so
2015-01-11 16:14:13	Waterpikmin	would that be a possibility?
2015-01-11 16:14:42	Yoshi2	Espyo could probably say more about that
2015-01-11 16:14:52	Waterpikmin	good ides
2015-01-11 16:14:56	Waterpikmin	idea*
2015-01-11 16:15:12	Waterpikmin	so all i have to do is say his name?
2015-01-11 16:15:19	Yoshi2	it should be possible, but I'm not too familiar with how things are done on the wiki
2015-01-11 16:15:31	Waterpikmin	okay, Espyo
2015-01-11 16:15:50	Waterpikmin	we need some assistance
2015-01-11 16:16:03	Yoshi2	he might be a bit busy, so don't expect a response right away
2015-01-11 16:16:14	Waterpikmin	of course
2015-01-11 16:16:16	Yoshi2	but it should speed things up a bit
2015-01-11 16:16:29	Waterpikmin	thats neat
2015-01-11 16:16:45	Yoshi2	because most IRC clients make the window flash when the user's own name is mentioned
2015-01-11 16:17:04	Waterpikmin	ok
2015-01-11 16:22:11	Waterpikmin	so im gonna play pikmin 2 for now
2015-01-11 16:25:33	@Espyo	hm?
2015-01-11 16:25:35	@Espyo	about what, sorry?
2015-01-11 16:25:40	@Espyo	I was playing Smash 4
2015-01-11 16:25:59	Yoshi2	<Waterpikmin> would i be able to edit the typo and lol thx
2015-01-11 16:25:59	Yoshi2	<Waterpikmin> all im doing is replacing one word so
2015-01-11 16:25:59	Yoshi2	<Waterpikmin> would that be a possibility?
2015-01-11 16:26:08	Yoshi2	Waterpikmin wants to correct a typo on the merchandise page
2015-01-11 16:27:39	@Espyo	yeah, sure
2015-01-11 16:27:43	@Espyo	anybody can edit any page
2015-01-11 16:27:45	@Espyo	so please, go right ahead
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2015-01-11 16:31:04	Yoshi2	well, I guess I will ping him that he can go ahead with fixing the typo when he returns
2015-01-11 16:33:23	@Espyo	okay
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2015-01-11 16:33:46	Waterpikmin	omg i did it!
2015-01-11 16:33:53	Waterpikmin	i feel awesome now
2015-01-11 16:34:02	Yoshi2	Waterpikmin: what did you do?
2015-01-11 16:34:51	Waterpikmin	i fixed a typo
2015-01-11 16:34:59	Waterpikmin	it feels good to contribute
2015-01-11 16:35:09	Waterpikmin	that was my first edit actually
2015-01-11 16:35:10	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Merchandise by Waterpikmin (0 m Fixed a minor typo in the clothing section.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Merchandise&curid=833&diff=143960&oldid=138204
2015-01-11 16:35:22	Waterpikmin	:)
2015-01-11 16:35:41	Yoshi2	nice
2015-01-11 16:36:12	Waterpikmin	im going to go for a no death run on pikmin 2
2015-01-11 16:36:42	Yoshi2	that does sound very challenging
2015-01-11 16:36:51	Waterpikmin	it is
2015-01-11 16:37:12	Yoshi2	I think I lost close to all of my pikmins on my first fight with the first boss in the first cave
2015-01-11 16:37:20	Yoshi2	I ended up reloading the save to do it again
2015-01-11 16:37:40	Waterpikmin	lol
2015-01-11 16:37:49	Waterpikmin	its hard though
2015-01-11 16:38:09	Waterpikmin	if i fail ill just do a casual play through
2015-01-11 16:42:03	@Espyo	just remember you can always retry the floor you're on
2015-01-11 16:42:25	Waterpikmin	good point
2015-01-11 16:42:37	Waterpikmin	so ill slowly but surely complete the game
2015-01-11 16:43:28	Waterpikmin	its hard using the gamecube controls
2015-01-11 16:43:40	Waterpikmin	but i still love the original
2015-01-11 16:44:42	Yoshi2	I loved how in Pikmin 3 I could do lots of different things at once by telling each of my commanders to walk somewhere
2015-01-11 16:44:58	Yoshi2	I really miss that in Pikmin 2
2015-01-11 16:45:35	Waterpikmin	ya
2015-01-11 16:45:50	Waterpikmin	pikmin 2 always has a place in my heart
2015-01-11 16:55:11	Waterpikmin	i do think that pikmin 2 had the most exploration
2015-01-11 16:55:25	Waterpikmin	in size it was a large game
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2015-01-11 19:17:18	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Pikmin X by Sir V (-26 /* Pikmin Type L (AKA Xyul) */ ) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_X&curid=9485&diff=47659&oldid=47658
2015-01-11 19:17:18	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Pikmin X by Sir V (+69) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_X&curid=9485&diff=47660&oldid=47659
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2015-01-11 19:27:29	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Pikmin X by Sir V (+21 /* Areas */ ) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_X&curid=9485&diff=47661&oldid=47660
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2015-01-11 19:33:46	Yoshi2	people do have some quite extravagant ideas for a pikmin game
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2015-01-11 19:57:01	@Espyo	yep
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2015-01-11 20:56:41	UltraMario	hey espyo, uh
2015-01-11 20:56:45	UltraMario	do you have pikmin 3
2015-01-11 20:57:23	UltraMario	?
2015-01-11 20:58:09	@Espyo	I do
2015-01-11 20:58:20	UltraMario	does it support the classic controller?
2015-01-11 20:58:22	UltraMario	I forget
2015-01-11 20:58:24	UltraMario	I hope so
2015-01-11 20:58:35	UltraMario	or the classic controller pro
2015-01-11 21:08:56	@J	silly Espyo
2015-01-11 21:09:22	UltraMario	espyo? :P
2015-01-11 21:09:30	UltraMario	y u no answer my question
2015-01-11 21:09:34	UltraMario	jk take your time
2015-01-11 21:09:35	UltraMario	;)
2015-01-11 21:25:51	@Espyo	it does
2015-01-11 21:25:55	@Espyo	silly Espyo why
2015-01-11 21:28:19	UltraMario	yay
2015-01-11 21:28:30	UltraMario	I can play Pikmin 3 with a GC controller then
2015-01-11 21:28:32	UltraMario	<3
2015-01-11 21:28:39	UltraMario	cuz I have a mayflash adapter
2015-01-11 21:28:54	UltraMario	that works like a classic controller
2015-01-11 21:29:06	UltraMario	you plug the adapter in the wii remote, then plug your GC controller in the adapter
2015-01-11 21:29:17	UltraMario	and it should work with any classic controller supported game
2015-01-11 21:29:27	UltraMario	in that regard it's better than the official gamecube adapter
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2015-01-11 21:53:04	@J	silly Espyo because slow
2015-01-11 21:53:06	@J	 /ironic
2015-01-11 21:53:14	@Espyo	hah
2015-01-11 21:54:44	UltraMario	YOU'RE TOO SLOW!
2015-01-11 21:54:53	UltraMario	it's funny because Espio is fast :P
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2015-01-11 22:05:54	@Espyo	:(
2015-01-11 22:05:56	@Espyo	hey Miles
2015-01-11 22:06:04	@Espyo	I'm afraid I didn't see a single run on AGDQ this time
2015-01-11 22:06:06	@Espyo	damn work
2015-01-11 22:06:11	Miles	Good
2015-01-11 22:06:12	@Espyo	are the videos up already?
2015-01-11 22:06:20	Miles	The Prime run was terrible
2015-01-11 22:06:26	@Espyo	can't win them all
2015-01-11 22:06:49	@Espyo	did the donations break a new record?
2015-01-11 22:06:57	UltraMario	I find it funny how 2 people here have Sonic character names
2015-01-11 22:06:59	UltraMario	:P
2015-01-11 22:10:57	@J	Espyo: doesn't Twitch save all videos anyway?
2015-01-11 22:11:03	@J	so you can watch the actual streams any time
2015-01-11 22:11:47	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-11 22:11:55	@Espyo	never really thought of that
2015-01-11 22:12:06	@Espyo	though I thought you had to manually enable the safekeepings
2015-01-11 22:13:16	Miles	People have uploaded everything to YouTube if you search
2015-01-11 22:13:40	Miles	And yeah it raised around 1.5 million
2015-01-11 22:13:50	Miles	Over 1 million last year
2015-01-11 22:14:07	@Espyo	good
2015-01-11 22:15:42	@J	not really sure, I think I just checked at some point and they were all in some sort of archive
2015-01-11 22:16:04	Miles	Yeah everything's on Twitch but it's not the most convenient way to find/watch them
2015-01-11 22:16:10	Miles	As they're not split by run
2015-01-11 22:16:21	@J	fair enough
2015-01-11 22:30:48	UltraMario	hi
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2015-01-12 18:42:49	Testyo	Greetings everyone!
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2015-01-12 22:33:14	Testyo	one on each moment of truth
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2015-01-13 01:36:29	Waterpikmin	Hello? anyone there?
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2015-01-13 19:19:04	--	Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of Pikipedia http://pikminwiki.com and Pikmin Fanon http://pikminfanon.com | Rules: http://pikminwiki.com/Help:Chat"
2015-01-13 19:19:04	--	Topic set by PikFan on Sat, 03 May 2014 19:36:58
2015-01-13 19:19:04	--	Channel #pikipedia: 8 nicks (2 ops, 0 voices, 6 normals)
2015-01-13 19:19:04	--	URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com
2015-01-13 19:19:04	--	Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ
2015-01-13 19:19:06	--	Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16
2015-01-13 19:19:42	@J	had to reboot my Raspberry Pi
2015-01-13 19:19:45	@J	sad
2015-01-13 19:20:14	@J	165 days of uptime
2015-01-13 19:20:57	UltraMario	hi
2015-01-13 19:21:46	@J	hello
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2015-01-13 19:28:32	Yoshi2	hey Testyo 
2015-01-13 19:28:33	Testyo	it's a game as big as P2 probably has hundreds of instances where "100" appears
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2015-01-13 19:35:35	Waterpikmin	hi there!
2015-01-13 19:36:06	UltraMario	hi
2015-01-13 19:36:24	Waterpikmin	how are things?
2015-01-13 19:36:36	UltraMario	ok
2015-01-13 19:37:11	Waterpikmin	thing are doing well for me! 
2015-01-13 19:37:15	Waterpikmin	things*
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2015-01-13 19:38:12	Waterpikmin	i have been playing a lot of steam lately
2015-01-13 19:38:40	Waterpikmin	probably because of dont starve
2015-01-13 19:39:11	UltraMario	add me :o
2015-01-13 19:39:20	UltraMario	my username is Bowyer at the minute
2015-01-13 19:39:21	Waterpikmin	sure! same name?
2015-01-13 19:39:23	UltraMario	I change it a lot
2015-01-13 19:39:23	UltraMario	xP
2015-01-13 19:39:27	Waterpikmin	ohn ok
2015-01-13 19:39:44	UltraMario	when a request is sent lemme know
2015-01-13 19:40:13	Waterpikmin	what profile pic you have?
2015-01-13 19:40:37	Waterpikmin	there are tons of bowyers
2015-01-13 19:40:43	UltraMario	really? :|
2015-01-13 19:40:45	UltraMario	wow...
2015-01-13 19:40:58	UltraMario	I didn't think an obscure character from Mario RPG would have that many fansd
2015-01-13 19:40:59	UltraMario	xP
2015-01-13 19:41:06	UltraMario	hmm
2015-01-13 19:41:08	Waterpikmin	oh ok
2015-01-13 19:41:14	UltraMario	look in the MarioWiki group
2015-01-13 19:41:19	Waterpikmin	i like bowyer
2015-01-13 19:41:24	UltraMario	you'll find a Bowyer in that, and that's me
2015-01-13 19:41:30	UltraMario	:)
2015-01-13 19:42:53	Waterpikmin	ok
2015-01-13 19:43:19	UltraMario	found me?
2015-01-13 19:44:20	Yoshi2	there are more people who have played and liked mario RPG than you might think
2015-01-13 19:44:33	UltraMario	I know, but
2015-01-13 19:44:35	UltraMario	why Bowyer
2015-01-13 19:44:35	Waterpikmin	oh ya
2015-01-13 19:44:41	Yoshi2	beats me
2015-01-13 19:44:41	UltraMario	of all characters
2015-01-13 19:44:42	UltraMario	xP
2015-01-13 19:44:47	Yoshi2	I forgot who bowyer was
2015-01-13 19:44:50	Waterpikmin	i love the game
2015-01-13 19:44:54	Waterpikmin	geno...
2015-01-13 19:44:55	UltraMario	he was the guy in the Forest Maze
2015-01-13 19:45:00	Waterpikmin	i miss him
2015-01-13 19:45:03	UltraMario	who fired arrows at the people of Rose Town
2015-01-13 19:45:07	Yoshi2	ah
2015-01-13 19:45:13	Yoshi2	one of the bosses also
2015-01-13 19:45:14	Waterpikmin	making them stand still
2015-01-13 19:45:16	UltraMario	he spoke like Yoda, too
2015-01-13 19:45:22	Waterpikmin	and unable to move
2015-01-13 19:45:49	UltraMario	did you send it?
2015-01-13 19:46:09	Waterpikmin	i cant find it
2015-01-13 19:46:24	UltraMario	:|
2015-01-13 19:46:26	UltraMario	uh...
2015-01-13 19:46:27	UltraMario	hmm
2015-01-13 19:46:33	UltraMario	well look up Justin Meimin
2015-01-13 19:46:37	UltraMario	and you'll find me
2015-01-13 19:46:38	Waterpikmin	just friend me my name is Greninja19
2015-01-13 19:46:46	Waterpikmin	ok
2015-01-13 19:46:46	UltraMario	because I have my real name in my profile :P
2015-01-13 19:47:12	Yoshi2	every user has a steam ID which never chances, you could try searching for that
2015-01-13 19:48:00	UltraMario	huh
2015-01-13 19:48:05	UltraMario	chances? :P
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2015-01-13 19:49:12	Yoshi2	UltraMario: you use the steam ID to log into steam, so it has to be the same always :P
2015-01-13 19:49:31	UltraMario	oh
2015-01-13 19:49:35	UltraMario	UltraMario3000
2015-01-13 19:49:40	UltraMario	oh, he's gone
2015-01-13 19:49:40	UltraMario	:(
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2015-01-13 19:50:13	Waterpikmin	ok i friended you!
2015-01-13 19:50:23	UltraMario	yay
2015-01-13 19:50:26	UltraMario	hmm
2015-01-13 19:50:33	UltraMario	what games do you have
2015-01-13 19:50:38	Waterpikmin	i had to restart my mac
2015-01-13 19:51:01	Waterpikmin	i have dont starve
2015-01-13 19:51:10	UltraMario	that it? :p
2015-01-13 19:51:16	Waterpikmin	thats all i really play at the moment lol
2015-01-13 19:51:20	UltraMario	oh
2015-01-13 19:51:33	UltraMario	wanna know what I have
2015-01-13 19:52:01	Waterpikmin	ill look
2015-01-13 19:52:42	UltraMario	oh ok
2015-01-13 19:52:58	Yoshi2	I have 40something games, most of which I haven't finished yet
2015-01-13 19:53:05	Waterpikmin	if there is a game you need its dont starve
2015-01-13 19:53:40	Waterpikmin	its really fun
2015-01-13 19:53:43	UltraMario	I have 14 games, but a fair amount I haven't even touched yet
2015-01-13 19:53:44	UltraMario	eh
2015-01-13 19:53:45	UltraMario	idk
2015-01-13 19:53:52	Waterpikmin	especially in dont starve together
2015-01-13 19:53:53	UltraMario	I'm thinking of getting Melody's Escape
2015-01-13 19:54:11	UltraMario	but idk how that even plays, but judging by the reviews it sounds pretty fun
2015-01-13 19:54:29	UltraMario	and I love Audiosurf, so I would probably like this game too
2015-01-13 19:54:44	Waterpikmin	look at the trailer
2015-01-13 19:55:00	UltraMario	of what?
2015-01-13 19:55:35	Waterpikmin	dont starve
2015-01-13 19:55:43	UltraMario	no
2015-01-13 19:55:52	Waterpikmin	why?
2015-01-13 19:56:02	@Espyo	<J> 165 days of uptime
2015-01-13 19:56:07	UltraMario	i'm not even interested in it, I've only heard the title :P
2015-01-13 19:56:10	@Espyo	I still remember when windows 95 exploded after 30 days of uptime
2015-01-13 19:56:13	@Espyo	or something like that
2015-01-13 19:56:15	@Espyo	also hi, everybody
2015-01-13 19:56:26	Waterpikmin	ok lol
2015-01-13 19:56:30	Waterpikmin	hi espyo!
2015-01-13 19:56:44	UltraMario	too bad none of my steam friends have Melody's escape
2015-01-13 19:56:54	UltraMario	I have no one to tell me what it's like :P
2015-01-13 19:58:05	Waterpikmin	i havent heard of that one
2015-01-13 19:59:44	UltraMario	i found it through my steam reccomendations
2015-01-13 19:59:55	Waterpikmin	hmm
2015-01-13 20:00:11	Waterpikmin	dont starve has a ton of replayability
2015-01-13 20:00:20	Waterpikmin	especially with steam workshop
2015-01-13 20:00:39	Waterpikmin	ive been playing it for a while now and i havent played it with one mod
2015-01-13 20:01:19	Yoshi2	I have skyrim
2015-01-13 20:01:26	Yoshi2	tons of replayability with mods and stuff
2015-01-13 20:02:17	Waterpikmin	skyrim seems
2015-01-13 20:02:19	Waterpikmin	nice
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2015-01-13 20:04:44	Waterpikmin	i have it for 360 but im thinking about getting it on my computer
2015-01-13 20:07:23	Yoshi2	the game is alright, too bad that it is lacking a bit in depth because the world is so big
2015-01-13 20:07:40	Yoshi2	that's where mods make the game better
2015-01-13 20:08:00	Yoshi2	though I did put 100 hours into the game before I even thought about trying out some mods
2015-01-13 20:08:05	UltraMario	i wish sonic generatios had workshop compatability
2015-01-13 20:09:16	Waterpikmin	i have never completed the game so i want to have more playability
2015-01-13 20:09:20	Waterpikmin	after the fact
2015-01-13 20:09:37	Waterpikmin	yoshi do you have dont starve?
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2015-01-13 20:14:22	@J	[19:56:10] @Espyo I still remember when windows 95 exploded after 30 days of uptime
2015-01-13 20:14:31	@J	you mean it was a thing, or it happened one time to you?
2015-01-13 20:16:04	Yoshi2_	I never had a PC with Win95
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2015-01-13 20:17:01	@PikFan	.
2015-01-13 20:17:37	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-13 20:17:44	@Espyo	J: it was a thing
2015-01-13 20:18:07	@PikFan	http://pikmin.wikia.com
2015-01-13 20:18:15	@PikFan	"Remember: words like "Pikmin" (referring to the species) are not pronouns. It is okay to captalize them but it is not necessary."
2015-01-13 20:18:19	@PikFan	what
2015-01-13 20:18:36	@PikFan	of COURSE you should
2015-01-13 20:19:14	@PikFan	this is precisely the kind of idiocy that we wanted to get away from
2015-01-13 20:19:19	UltraMario	ugh
2015-01-13 20:19:26	@Espyo	yep
2015-01-13 20:19:29	@Espyo	no, see, this is good
2015-01-13 20:19:35	@Espyo	I'm now convinced that kirby is actually a spy
2015-01-13 20:19:41	@Espyo	he's on our side; he just never told us
2015-01-13 20:19:42	UltraMario	i have no idea how to open the cd drive on my laptop
2015-01-13 20:19:47	@Espyo	but he's actually destroying the wikia from the inside
2015-01-13 20:20:00	@Espyo	UltraMario: open my computer, right-click the drive, choose eject
2015-01-13 20:20:10	UltraMario	ok
2015-01-13 20:20:24	UltraMario	why wouldn't they put an eject button on this thing
2015-01-13 20:20:25	UltraMario	lol
2015-01-13 20:20:26	@PikFan	okay, but then what's with him going around telling users their mistakes
2015-01-13 20:20:39	@PikFan	doesn't seem very destructive
2015-01-13 20:20:50	@Espyo	maybe it does have it
2015-01-13 20:20:52	@PikFan	...no, wait
2015-01-13 20:20:55	@Espyo	just mash everywhere on the drive
2015-01-13 20:20:59	@Espyo	you should find the button
2015-01-13 20:21:20	@PikFan	maybe he's trying to deter users by criticizing them
2015-01-13 20:21:44	Yoshi2_	UltraMario: you should be able to eject the drive by right clicking on the cd drive icon when you open up Computer
2015-01-13 20:21:55	UltraMario	where is computer tho
2015-01-13 20:21:56	UltraMario	:p
2015-01-13 20:22:27	@Espyo	start menu, my computer
2015-01-13 20:22:39	@PikFan	http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Bulborb7542/why_you_report_me%3F
2015-01-13 20:22:40	UltraMario	wait is that on windows 8?
2015-01-13 20:22:40	Testyo	3 F = -16.1111 °C / 257.039 K
2015-01-13 20:22:44	@PikFan	beautiful
2015-01-13 20:23:00	@Espyo	UltraMario: any windows
2015-01-13 20:23:04	UltraMario	hmm
2015-01-13 20:23:05	@Espyo	PikFan: wikia has been a fun ride lately
2015-01-13 20:23:08	@Espyo	so much cancer, everywhere
2015-01-13 20:23:38	@PikFan	best part about it
2015-01-13 20:23:48	@PikFan	staff hasn't done anything
2015-01-13 20:24:08	@PikFan	they haven't taken down that redirect message
2015-01-13 20:24:29	@PikFan	do they finally acknowledge the merge?
2015-01-13 20:24:39	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Piktoad created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Piktoad
2015-01-13 20:25:00	@PikFan	ooh, I see you've updated Testyo
2015-01-13 20:25:00	Testyo	and I couldn't justify myself saying it takes to be somebody who can moderate the chatroom without problem
2015-01-13 20:25:04	UltraMario	im so confused...
2015-01-13 20:25:05	UltraMario	:(
2015-01-13 20:28:43	UltraMario	I don't think I have anything called My Computer
2015-01-13 20:29:13	UltraMario	There's a This PC, but I don't see an eject option when I right click that
2015-01-13 20:30:17	UltraMario	can someone halp me?
2015-01-13 20:30:19	Yoshi2_	This PC works too
2015-01-13 20:30:34	UltraMario	hmm
2015-01-13 20:30:46	Yoshi2_	click on that, a list of drives should come up
2015-01-13 20:30:58	Yoshi2_	things like C:, D:, etc.
2015-01-13 20:31:12	Yoshi2_	one of those belongs to your CD drive
2015-01-13 20:31:13	UltraMario	ok
2015-01-13 20:31:28	UltraMario	there's only 1 drive it says
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2015-01-13 20:32:44	Yoshi2_	what letter does it have?
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2015-01-13 20:34:00	UltraMario	woops
2015-01-13 20:34:03	UltraMario	so what happened
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2015-01-13 20:34:32	@PikFan	freaking iPads
2015-01-13 20:34:42	UltraMario	yoshi2_ what did you see when i died? :P
2015-01-13 20:35:12	@PikFan	ONLY on laptops/desktops can you go to another tab without Mibbit closing :|
2015-01-13 20:36:08	UltraMario	?
2015-01-13 20:38:32	@PikFan	no because I went to another tab, then Mibbit disconnected
2015-01-13 20:38:43	@PikFan	this happens on Wii U, too
2015-01-13 20:39:57	Yoshi2_	UltraMario: I saw nothing, officer :P
2015-01-13 20:40:36	UltraMario	oh no
2015-01-13 20:40:38	UltraMario	WHAT DO I DO :(
2015-01-13 20:41:28	Yoshi2_	what letter do the drives have, that you see in This PC?
2015-01-13 20:41:55	UltraMario	what do you mean
2015-01-13 20:42:51	@Espyo	<PikFan> ooh, I see you've updated Testyo
2015-01-13 20:42:52	Testyo	yeah, doesn't look like it's changed, does it
2015-01-13 20:42:52	@Espyo	I did?
2015-01-13 20:42:53	Yoshi2_	drives in Windows are assigned a letter
2015-01-13 20:43:11	UltraMario	C:/
2015-01-13 20:43:19	Yoshi2_	your most important drive is C:, on which Windows is installed
2015-01-13 20:43:29	Yoshi2_	do you see any other letter?
2015-01-13 20:43:43	UltraMario	...no
2015-01-13 20:43:45	UltraMario	;_;
2015-01-13 20:43:46	Yoshi2_	if not, I'm doubting that you even have a cd drive :P
2015-01-13 20:43:51	UltraMario	why is there this thing tho
2015-01-13 20:43:57	UltraMario	that looks like a cd can go in it
2015-01-13 20:43:58	UltraMario	:|
2015-01-13 20:44:18	Yoshi2_	CD/DVD drives usually have a label on them
2015-01-13 20:44:34	UltraMario	what do you mean by label?
2015-01-13 20:44:40	UltraMario	like it says CD
2015-01-13 20:44:43	Yoshi2_	yeah
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2015-01-13 20:45:04	UltraMario	but
2015-01-13 20:45:10	Yoshi2_	what notebook model do you have?
2015-01-13 20:45:10	UltraMario	it looks like it could be opened even
2015-01-13 20:45:43	UltraMario	it's a toshia windows 8.1
2015-01-13 20:46:48	Yoshi2_	toshiba?
2015-01-13 20:47:05	UltraMario	yeah
2015-01-13 20:47:53	Yoshi2_	do you happen to know the exact name of the model?
2015-01-13 20:47:59	Yoshi2_	could be written somewhere on the device
2015-01-13 20:48:14	Yoshi2_	maybe the device doesn't have a CD drive, or only has a placeholder
2015-01-13 20:48:26	UltraMario	hmm
2015-01-13 20:49:06	UltraMario	C55-B5299
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2015-01-13 20:51:32	@PikFan	Espyo: yeah, because before, when a new user joined, Testyo would say that a user page was made
2015-01-13 20:51:33	Testyo	they need to get Prisms reliably
2015-01-13 20:51:40	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-13 20:51:46	@Espyo	I think I fixed that months ago, then
2015-01-13 20:51:50	@Espyo	Testyo: changelog
2015-01-13 20:51:50	Testyo	https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47921869/Permanent/Testyo/ToDo.txt Go here for a list of things I have to do on Testyo, and go here https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47921869/Permanent/Testyo/Changelog.txt for the changelog. —Espyo
2015-01-13 20:51:52	Yoshi2_	mhm, yes, the device definitely has something that looks like a CD/DVD drive
2015-01-13 20:52:00	UltraMario	hmm
2015-01-13 20:52:03	Yoshi2_	now to see if it is a placeholder or if there is actually a drive there
2015-01-13 20:52:24	Yoshi2_	http://www.toshiba.com/us/computers/laptops/satellite/C50/C55-B5299
2015-01-13 20:52:27	Yoshi2_	"USB Optical Drive sold separately" :l
2015-01-13 20:52:47	UltraMario	....
2015-01-13 20:53:05	@PikFan	huh
2015-01-13 20:53:21	@PikFan	could've sworn it was different
2015-01-13 20:53:30	@PikFan	I must have a faulty memory
2015-01-13 20:53:49	UltraMario	gj toshiba
2015-01-13 20:54:00	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-13 20:54:03	@Espyo	it was different
2015-01-13 20:54:05	@Espyo	but it was months ago
2015-01-13 20:54:06	Yoshi2_	here is a review from somebody on amazon about this particular device: http://www.amazon.com/review/R36BFFJ4MK2F7V/ref=cm_cr_dp_title?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00KBX8MHE&nodeID=541966&store=pc
2015-01-13 20:54:16	Yoshi2_	Cons:
2015-01-13 20:54:19	Yoshi2_	- CD Drive: there isn't one.
2015-01-13 20:54:56	@PikFan	okay so
2015-01-13 20:54:59	Yoshi2_	and considering that the drive doesn't show up in This PC for you, I'm afraid to say that your notebook does not have a cd drive
2015-01-13 20:55:07	@PikFan	been working on fanfic
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2015-01-13 20:55:51	@PikFan	but I'm having issues with the Onion's structure
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2015-01-13 20:56:58	@PikFan	I calculated how many homes there'd be, and...
2015-01-13 20:56:58	@PikFan	it's over one million
2015-01-13 20:56:58	@PikFan	WAY too many for my liking
2015-01-13 20:58:17	@PikFan	I think I need to rework some stuff
2015-01-13 21:00:34	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-13 21:01:29	@PikFan	Gotta go, bye
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2015-01-13 21:01:43	Yoshi2_	I'll take a nap now, good night
2015-01-13 21:03:09	@Espyo	night
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2015-01-13 22:10:40	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Brute Knuckles by Piktoad (+122) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Brute_Knuckles&curid=339&diff=143966&oldid=137765
2015-01-13 22:15:42	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Brute Knuckles by Piktoad (+79 /* Trivia */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Brute_Knuckles&curid=339&diff=143967&oldid=143966
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2015-01-13 23:57:08	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Pikmin X by Sir V (+31 /* Caves */ ) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_X&curid=9485&diff=47670&oldid=47661
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2015-01-14 02:41:13	DefinitelyNotJPM	yo
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2015-01-14 02:58:55	UltraGarrysMod	bye
2015-01-14 02:58:57	UltraGarrysMod	lol
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2015-01-14 18:48:15	Testyo	Good evening everyone!
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2015-01-14 19:08:29	@J	beep
2015-01-14 19:08:42	@J	at everyone, I guess
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2015-01-14 19:08:53	@J	except that guy
2015-01-14 19:09:11	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-14 19:09:24	@Espyo	you actually managed to catch a minuter
2015-01-14 19:09:28	@Espyo	too bad it didn't do much
2015-01-14 19:09:31	@Espyo	they left anyway
2015-01-14 19:13:28	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User account CaptainToad created http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User:CaptainToad
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2015-01-14 20:36:15	Miles	So I may or may not have a rip of Pikmin 3
2015-01-14 20:36:18	Miles	It's possible
2015-01-14 20:37:33	@Espyo	OST rip?
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2015-01-14 20:37:47	Miles	No
2015-01-14 20:37:53	@Espyo	how openable are the files?
2015-01-14 20:37:56	@Espyo	and openable has to be a word
2015-01-14 20:39:07	Miles	Everything's in .szs
2015-01-14 20:39:15	Yoshi2	definitely openable
2015-01-14 20:39:33	@Espyo	I may or may not be giddy and jealous
2015-01-14 20:39:44	Miles	I mean, they would be in .szs if I had the files
2015-01-14 20:40:04	Yoshi2	of course
2015-01-14 20:41:53	Miles	The opening/credits are just MP4 videos, lol
2015-01-14 20:42:04	Miles	It's cool seeing the credits without the... credits... on top of it
2015-01-14 20:42:21	@Espyo	it's so funny seeing Nintendo losing the Not Invented Here Syndrome
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2015-01-14 20:47:16	Yoshi2	I did find it stupid how Wind Waker had a pre-rendered credits video
2015-01-14 20:50:04	Yoshi2	which wouldn't be too bad, but Nintendo also made the cutszene before the credits (or after?) pre-rendered, too
2015-01-14 20:51:07	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-14 20:52:22	Miles	There's files for kingchappy
2015-01-14 20:52:24	Miles	Um
2015-01-14 20:54:40	Miles		{
2015-01-14 20:54:41	Miles			"mLifeParam" 
2015-01-14 20:54:41	Miles			# LifeParam
2015-01-14 20:54:41	Miles			{
2015-01-14 20:54:41	Miles				8 # Version
2015-01-14 20:54:41	Miles				1000.00000000 # MaxLife
2015-01-14 20:54:42	Miles				1.00000000 # NumBombHits
2015-01-14 20:54:42	Testyo	Miles is a flooder!
2015-01-14 20:54:42	Miles				1.00000000 # NumInsideBombHits
2015-01-14 20:54:43	Miles				5.00000000 # NumPoisonHits
2015-01-14 20:54:43	Miles				25.00000000 # NumRockDirectHits
2015-01-14 20:54:44	Miles				0.00000000 # NumPressHits
2015-01-14 20:54:44	Miles				0.00000000 # GaugeOfsX
2015-01-14 20:54:44	Miles				90.00000000 # GaugeOfsY
2015-01-14 20:54:45	Miles				1 # DamageEffectType
2015-01-14 20:54:46	Testyo	Miles is flooding!
2015-01-14 20:56:05	Yoshi2	Testyo: we know
2015-01-14 20:56:06	Testyo	or you just press the play button on the system comes without an OS
2015-01-14 20:56:19	Yoshi2	stay classy, nintendo
2015-01-14 20:56:34	Yoshi2	still using that config format from Pikmin 1/2
2015-01-14 20:57:23	Miles	But with some English!
2015-01-14 20:57:29	@Espyo	yeah
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2015-01-14 21:28:08	Miles	mis_order.txt
2015-01-14 21:28:10	Miles		mis1_poko
2015-01-14 21:28:11	Miles		mis5_poko
2015-01-14 21:28:11	Miles		mis2_poko
2015-01-14 21:28:11	Miles		mis4_poko
2015-01-14 21:28:11	Miles		mis3_poko
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2015-01-14 22:03:28	@J	well, that's definitely misordered
2015-01-14 22:03:44	@J	it's probably the RNG
2015-01-14 22:09:11	UltraMario	hey guys
2015-01-14 22:10:03	UltraMario	i have a red x next to the norton icon on my laptop
2015-01-14 22:10:08	UltraMario	...is that bad? D:
2015-01-14 22:11:24	@Espyo	hmm
2015-01-14 22:11:53	@Espyo	well, you're using Norton
2015-01-14 22:12:01	@Espyo	so that's already a problem in and of itself
2015-01-14 22:12:19	UltraMario	Hey
2015-01-14 22:12:21	UltraMario	>:(
2015-01-14 22:12:43	UltraMario	what is that suppose ta mean?
2015-01-14 22:12:56	@Espyo	Norton is pretty much one of the worst
2015-01-14 22:13:05	@Espyo	next to Panda
2015-01-14 22:13:07	@Espyo	get AVG
2015-01-14 22:13:20	UltraMario	it came preinstalled with the computer, so
2015-01-14 22:13:25	UltraMario	EXCUSE ME
2015-01-14 22:13:27	UltraMario	:(
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2015-01-14 22:23:25	Testyo	...just not with but point it down
2015-01-14 22:23:54	UltraMario	lol
2015-01-14 22:37:28	@J	always point it down
2015-01-14 22:37:33	@J	unless it's ice cream
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2015-01-14 23:27:20	Miles	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S8pcHs7OklF-hZ2jxSJ3lRYLTRpTSCcJ2mUY1siZZHQ/
2015-01-14 23:31:43	@Espyo	nice
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2015-01-15 18:47:46	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2015-01-15 18:49:06	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-15 18:49:07	Testyo	because I guess last time I went through and too subtle might look dumb too
2015-01-15 18:53:34	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-15 19:05:13	Miles	So Winged Pikmin aren't called "Winged" in the files
2015-01-15 19:05:22	Miles	You get 3 guesses to what they are called
2015-01-15 19:05:43	Miles	It does use Rock though
2015-01-15 19:07:15	Yoshi2	hmmm, did Pikmin 2 have winged Pikmin?
2015-01-15 19:08:35	Miles	No
2015-01-15 19:10:20	Yoshi2	my guess would be something with "purple", but the big pikmin is purple too
2015-01-15 19:10:34	Yoshi2	maybe they fixed the purple pikmin's name and named the winged pikmin black
2015-01-15 19:10:51	Miles	Purples are still "Black"
2015-01-15 19:12:43	Yoshi2	in that case, maybe the Winged Pikmin are "Fly"
2015-01-15 19:12:56	Miles	No
2015-01-15 19:15:47	Yoshi2	and it probably isn't "Purple" either?
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2015-01-15 19:16:50	Miles	Yeah, it's not
2015-01-15 19:18:02	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Merchandise by 216.223.27.57 (+174 /* Hi! */ new section) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Merchandise&curid=4277&diff=144043&oldid=137439
2015-01-15 19:18:19	Yoshi2	we had red, blue, yellow, black, white
2015-01-15 19:18:25	Yoshi2	maybe "Green"?
2015-01-15 19:18:32	@Espyo	purples are still black? hah
2015-01-15 19:18:37	@Espyo	are they just pink?
2015-01-15 19:18:41	Miles	No
2015-01-15 19:18:52	@Espyo	hmmm...
2015-01-15 19:18:59	@Espyo	teki?
2015-01-15 19:19:08	Miles	No, lol
2015-01-15 19:19:32	Yoshi2	brown?
2015-01-15 19:19:37	@Espyo	boy, any hints?
2015-01-15 19:19:54	Miles	It's Orange
2015-01-15 19:20:06	Yoshi2	oh
2015-01-15 19:20:08	@Espyo	hmmmmmmm...
2015-01-15 19:20:15	Yoshi2	yep, should've known that
2015-01-15 19:20:25	Yoshi2	they totally do look orange
2015-01-15 19:21:27	Yoshi2	there is something with Nintendo and their desire to change the colour of Pikmin mid-development
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2015-01-15 19:26:37	Miles	Also I updated the spreadsheet to include the actual enemy names
2015-01-15 19:26:41	Miles	https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S8pcHs7OklF-hZ2jxSJ3lRYLTRpTSCcJ2mUY1siZZHQ
2015-01-15 19:26:57	@Espyo	nice
2015-01-15 19:27:47	@Espyo	holy crap this actually puts it in perspective
2015-01-15 19:27:50	@Espyo	there's a lot of unused enemies
2015-01-15 19:33:44	UltraMario	what's that
2015-01-15 19:34:20	UltraMario	oh, cool
2015-01-15 19:34:28	UltraMario	how did you rip files from the wii u? :|
2015-01-15 19:34:57	UltraMario	also lol yellow wollywog's japanese name is apparently simply "frog"
2015-01-15 19:35:15	Miles	These are code names, not Japanese names
2015-01-15 19:35:33	Miles	I didn't rip them myself, someone else did and sent them to me
2015-01-15 19:35:34	UltraMario	oh, well the other names were japanese, so. :P
2015-01-15 19:35:43	Miles	buriko, clione, iwadama, kakureimo, kingchappy, kumo, marofrog, moguraimo
2015-01-15 19:35:52	UltraMario	mariofrog
2015-01-15 19:36:03	UltraMario	lol
2015-01-15 19:36:03	@Espyo	clione is the Honeywisp
2015-01-15 19:36:15	UltraMario	i guess it's a sub-species of wollywog
2015-01-15 19:38:06	Miles	Well, it's obvious what some of them are from Pikmin 2, but... Going to leave them blank for that .1% chance they're not
2015-01-15 19:38:25	Miles	And also because they're unused
2015-01-15 19:38:54	Miles	Man, I really want to view their models
2015-01-15 19:40:58	UltraMario	ask the guy who sent you them
2015-01-15 19:42:21	Miles	Being able to rip a game doesn't mean they have a magic way of viewing models
2015-01-15 19:43:10	UltraMario	well there's programs for that :P
2015-01-15 19:43:27	UltraMario	i mean someone was able to rip the models from hyrule warriors, so
2015-01-15 19:43:45	Miles	Okay, find me one for BFRES models
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2015-01-15 19:58:03	Miles	Reflections on Hocotatians 
2015-01-15 19:58:03	Miles	My grandpa would often tell me tales of an ancient civilization... Ones with a love for culture and great art, these Hocotatians. What is a Hocotatian doing on this planet? Seeking paintings or sculptures of granite? Hey, I rhymed! Well, until just then, anyway.
2015-01-15 19:58:04	@Espyo	doesn't Brawl use a model format like that? it sure is familiar
2015-01-15 19:58:23	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Burrowing Snagret by Sylvyon (+165 Added another viable strategy.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Burrowing_Snagret&curid=323&diff=144046&oldid=143930
2015-01-15 19:58:41	@Espyo	are those strings from the game?
2015-01-15 19:58:47	@Espyo	well, I mean, duh, of course they are
2015-01-15 19:58:52	@Espyo	but you know where I'm getting at
2015-01-15 19:59:57	Miles	That's an end-of-day message, which I haven't seen most of, so I would have no clue if they were unused or not
2015-01-15 20:00:33	@Espyo	some of the wikians have a list of the ones they found
2015-01-15 20:00:35	@Espyo	I'll ask 'em
2015-01-15 20:00:51	Miles	I mean, I would go with "it's not unused"
2015-01-15 20:01:11	@Espyo	US or EU?
2015-01-15 20:01:12	Miles	Just, make up your minds on how Hocotate is pronounced please
2015-01-15 20:01:14	Miles	US
2015-01-15 20:01:31	Miles	The EU script is actually also included, lol
2015-01-15 20:01:59	@Espyo	reminds me of Pik2 stuff
2015-01-15 20:02:03	@Espyo	they also have everything in all versions
2015-01-15 20:02:10	@Espyo	wonder if that one's EU script is outdated
2015-01-15 20:02:20	@Espyo	I didn't really reflect that much on what you said, let me go back
2015-01-15 20:02:28	@Espyo	Nintendo has BOTH scripts in the US version
2015-01-15 20:02:32	@Espyo	just why
2015-01-15 20:03:21	@Espyo	L3re7z is saying that that end of day log is used
2015-01-15 20:04:39	Miles	Hocotatians. 
2015-01-15 20:04:39	Miles	According to my Grandpa they're a very advanced civilization. They apparently have a highly refined taste for the arts, and he told me that many of them love to collect ancient artwork and artefacts. Perhaps the Hocotatian who's been leaving notes on this planet came here in search of that kind of treasure? 
2015-01-15 20:05:02	@Espyo	EU equivalent?
2015-01-15 20:05:04	Miles	Yeah
2015-01-15 20:05:33	@Espyo	neat
2015-01-15 20:05:37	@Espyo	that IS a bit familiar to me
2015-01-15 20:05:42	@Espyo	but yeah, it's pretty much used
2015-01-15 20:05:47	@Espyo	there have to be some unused ones
2015-01-15 20:05:54	Miles	The best ones
2015-01-15 20:05:56	@Espyo	I mean, if the enemies are anything to go by, this looks promissing
2015-01-15 20:05:59	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-15 20:06:06	Miles	There's two for if you rescue the Winged/Blue Onions
2015-01-15 20:06:12	Miles	But don't actually pluck the seed
2015-01-15 20:06:32	@Espyo	amazing
2015-01-15 20:06:35	Miles	Also the unused enemies aren't in the script, so...
2015-01-15 20:06:43	@Espyo	crap
2015-01-15 20:07:01	@Espyo	but they DO have models, is that it?
2015-01-15 20:07:35	@Espyo	I do know there's a different log if you see the cell phone but don't fight the Meerslug
2015-01-15 20:07:42	@Espyo	somebody posted on the wiki at one point
2015-01-15 20:09:19	Miles	We built a bridge and freed the pink Onion, from which a single Pikmin seed popped out. However, I completely forgot to pluck the Pikmin sprout out of the ground , so I'm still not quite sure what abilities these pink Pikmin possess. 
2015-01-15 20:09:33	Miles	They have models, but their file sizes are relatively small
2015-01-15 20:10:08	@Espyo	pfffthahaha
2015-01-15 20:10:21	@Espyo	aw, they might really be Pikmin 2 leftovers then
2015-01-15 20:10:31	@Espyo	I mean, I think you mean they're small in comparison to the used ones
2015-01-15 20:24:39	Miles	I don't know where most of the Pikmin/Captain parameters are...
2015-01-15 20:24:52	Miles	Only thing I've found is a file just for attack strength/throw height
2015-01-15 20:25:19	Miles	(and completely unsurprisingly their attack matches up with what I already thought they were)
2015-01-15 20:25:32	@Espyo	how did you know the exact units, though?
2015-01-15 20:25:36	@Espyo	I thought you got the numbers by comparing
2015-01-15 20:25:43	Miles	Because it's the same as Pikmin 1 and 2
2015-01-15 20:25:46	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-15 20:25:48	@Espyo	well, that makes sense
2015-01-15 20:26:01	@Espyo	wait, I thought it was radically different in P1
2015-01-15 20:26:07	Miles	It's not
2015-01-15 20:26:11	@Espyo	at least a Bulborb's HP is really different
2015-01-15 20:26:24	@Espyo	and they kinda take the same time to die
2015-01-15 20:26:30	Miles	Reds have always been 15, Blues/Yellows have always been 10
2015-01-15 20:26:37	@Espyo	eh, I take it back, their HP isn't THAT different
2015-01-15 20:48:44	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Leader by Klemen702 (+5 m) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Leader&curid=758&diff=144047&oldid=143260
2015-01-15 20:52:05	Yoshi2	if you listen to the music track from the bingo mode and disable all tracks except for the one where pikmin cheer for Olimar, you can hear how Hocotate is pronounced
2015-01-15 20:52:15	Yoshi2	very quickly
2015-01-15 20:52:33	@Espyo	yep
2015-01-15 20:52:55	Yoshi2	which kinda makes civilization and hocotatians rhyme
2015-01-15 20:52:57	@Espyo	it's also pronounced Hoe-koe-tah-tay by Palutena in Smash 4
2015-01-15 20:53:08	@Espyo	kinda rhyme
2015-01-15 20:54:02	Yoshi2	civilizaischian, hocotateyschian
2015-01-15 20:54:19	Yoshi2	if you know what I'm getting at
2015-01-15 20:55:24	Miles	...I don't see how that rhymes with civilization
2015-01-15 20:56:38	Yoshi2	well, I'd need to write those weird symbols which are usually used to define pronounciation of words
2015-01-15 20:57:56	Yoshi2	the way I did it just now probably is rather unprecise because it can vary depending on how you usually pronounce the words/letters
2015-01-15 20:58:57	Miles	"te" is not included in Hocotatian, so that part shouldn't be pronounced, right?
2015-01-15 21:00:21	Yoshi2	if you pronounced "-tian" in a similar way to civilization's "-tion", you would end up with something similar to a rhyme
2015-01-15 21:00:59	Miles	If you're really, really stretching, sure
2015-01-15 21:01:06	@Espyo	you have to kind of say it fast
2015-01-15 21:01:06	Yoshi2	indeed
2015-01-15 21:01:11	@Espyo	but at least the "ian" match
2015-01-15 21:01:39	Yoshi2	yeah, hocotate needs to be pronounced quickly
2015-01-15 21:02:33	Yoshi2	similar to when the Pikmin cheer on Olimar in the bingo mode
2015-01-15 21:04:52	Miles	But that's only if "Hocotate" and "Hocotatian" are pronounced the same way
2015-01-15 21:08:28	Yoshi2	considering that you would pronounce German in a similar way to Germany, and Russian in a similiar way to Russia, I would guess that Hocotatian is pronounced in a similar way to Hocotate
2015-01-15 21:09:20	Yoshi2	not that it makes too much sense, but Pikmin 3 has no voice actors except for the person who reads the intro and outro
2015-01-15 21:10:31	Miles	Germany contains German, Russian contains Russia, Hocotatian does not contain Hocotate (the e at the end is left out)
2015-01-15 21:13:35	Yoshi2	you could try to explain it with English being weird and the e being replaced with i
2015-01-15 21:13:56	Yoshi2	considering what weird stuff can happen in languages, that wouldn't be too far fetched
2015-01-15 21:41:20	@J	/home/j/media/podcasts/linux outlaws/lv_s02e18.opus
2015-01-15 21:41:21	@J	/home/j/media/podcasts/linux outlaws/lv_s02e19.opus
2015-01-15 21:41:22	@J	http://i.imgur.com/lEHiLsZ.png
2015-01-15 21:41:29	@J	I think the Steam icon might not be the right size
2015-01-15 21:41:41	@J	what
2015-01-15 21:41:51	@J	not sure how I posted those file things, but whatever
2015-01-15 21:41:57	@J	*pasted
2015-01-15 21:42:03	@J	the link is the right thing
2015-01-15 21:49:30	@Espyo	not only is .opus probably not a file type any of us can open
2015-01-15 21:49:51	@J	Opus >>> Vorbis
2015-01-15 21:50:01	@Espyo	but we also can't open stuff from relative paths
2015-01-15 21:50:05	@Espyo	but
2015-01-15 21:50:08	@Espyo	I thought Vorbis was godllike
2015-01-15 21:50:13	@Espyo	*godlike
2015-01-15 21:50:17	@J	Vorbis is old now
2015-01-15 21:50:25	@Espyo	the Steam icon is just peeking
2015-01-15 21:50:28	@Espyo	it doesn't need to be all there
2015-01-15 21:50:38	@J	it's kind of creepy
2015-01-15 21:50:59	@J	well, Steam is trying to update and failing completely
2015-01-15 21:51:07	@Espyo	the usual
2015-01-15 21:51:11	@J	this is why DRM is bad, because now I can't play any of my Steam games
2015-01-15 21:51:11	@Espyo	happens literally every day with me
2015-01-15 21:51:48	@J	Dustforce it is
2015-01-15 21:52:16	@Espyo	but it's needed to stop pirates
2015-01-15 21:52:20	@Espyo	...or slow them down
2015-01-15 21:52:28	@Espyo	anyway, compared to must other DRM, Steam is pretty good
2015-01-15 21:52:36	@Espyo	worst you can get is a stupid infinite-update cycle
2015-01-15 21:53:00	@J	actually, some Steam games are DRM-free, aren't they?
2015-01-15 21:53:09	@Espyo	they should be
2015-01-15 21:53:09	@J	you just launch them from SteamApps or something
2015-01-15 21:53:14	@Espyo	but Steam itself is still in the way
2015-01-15 21:53:15	@Espyo	oh yeah
2015-01-15 21:53:25	@Espyo	I'm pretty sure I once ran TF2 with Steam off
2015-01-15 21:53:28	Yoshi2	some games might complain if steam isn't running
2015-01-15 21:53:29	@Espyo	played with bots, sure, but I did it
2015-01-15 21:55:06	@J	yeah, depends on the game
2015-01-15 21:55:09	@J	no luck here
2015-01-15 21:55:19	@J	I thought all Valve games needed Steam running
2015-01-15 21:55:47	@Espyo	uhm, I think this is wrong
2015-01-15 21:55:56	@Espyo	http://www.pikminwiki.com/White_Pikmin#In_the_Super_Smash_Bros._series
2015-01-15 21:56:02	@Espyo	the European trophy description for Smash 4
2015-01-15 21:56:09	@Espyo	pretty sure that's not venom
2015-01-15 21:56:59	@Espyo	yep
2015-01-15 21:57:01	@Espyo	they're poisonous
2015-01-15 21:57:03	@Espyo	not venomous
2015-01-15 21:57:07	@Espyo	welp, another one to add to the mistakes pile
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2015-01-15 21:58:31	@Espyo	ah, wait
2015-01-15 21:58:43	@Espyo	the trophy refers to them sharing venom with the enemies
2015-01-15 21:58:51	@Espyo	and they pummel in Smash 4, they don't get swallowed
2015-01-15 21:58:54	@Espyo	so THAT is venom
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2015-01-16 19:23:11	Testyo	Good evening everyone!
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2015-01-16 19:25:10	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-16 19:25:11	Testyo	nope, just takes a lot of patience
2015-01-16 19:41:05	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-16 19:47:22	@J	http://www.alexrad.me/discourse/why-rosyna-cant-take-a-movie-screenshot.html
2015-01-16 19:53:57	@Espyo	what in the actual
2015-01-16 19:55:40	Yoshi2	well, I'm glad nobody has ever been able to pirate movies since that system was put in place
2015-01-16 19:55:43	Yoshi2	... oh wait
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2015-01-16 20:15:08	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-16 21:22:04	@Espyo	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECgO1cOwnFQ this guy doesn't stop with the speedruns
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2015-01-16 22:19:47	@Espyo	http://tcrf.net/DynaMike this is amazing
2015-01-16 22:27:13	Yoshi2	how even
2015-01-16 22:28:10	Yoshi2	I am not sure why the developer would put a html page in the game files
2015-01-16 22:28:40	@Espyo	according to the article body, they didn't
2015-01-16 22:28:45	@Espyo	RAM content leaked in
2015-01-16 22:29:47	Yoshi2	I see
2015-01-16 22:30:26	Yoshi2	I wonder how building a game would leak ram into the build
2015-01-16 22:31:11	@Espyo	I have no idea
2015-01-16 22:31:14	@Espyo	so I'm pretty skeptical myself
2015-01-16 22:31:29	Yoshi2	maybe ram isn't being cleared completely, and when the build program reserves X memory for building the game, it ends up reading data that was left in the ram
2015-01-16 22:35:00	@Espyo	yeah, but nothing ever had that
2015-01-16 22:37:38	Yoshi2	without a doubt, there is a rom with the content described on that tcrf page
2015-01-16 22:39:32	Yoshi2	I do wonder about the origin of the prototype
2015-01-16 22:39:45	Yoshi2	was it dumped by somebody from a cartridge?
2015-01-16 22:47:14	@Espyo	probably
2015-01-16 22:51:09	Yoshi2	considering that prototypes are rather rare, if whoever dumped it messed up the dump process, that version would be the only one in circulation and you would have no way of checking if the cartridge is supposed to contain the data or not
2015-01-16 22:52:21	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-16 23:03:28	Yoshi2	I will take a nap now, good night
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2015-01-16 23:16:39	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User talk:PikPikPk by PikPikPk (+308) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:PikPikPk&curid=18035&diff=144053&oldid=143995
2015-01-16 23:16:40	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Merchandise by 24.211.61.138 (+41 /* Hi! */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Merchandise&curid=4277&diff=144054&oldid=144045
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2015-01-17 11:56:38	Testyo	Hey everyone!
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2015-01-17 15:19:47	@Espyo	Miles_: I don't suppose you found anything in the files that justifies whether the purple and brown pellets are a glitch or a secret, did you?
2015-01-17 15:34:18	Testyo	essentially creating an infinite http://freepats.zenvoid.org/tools/sfubar-9/README
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2015-01-17 16:01:02	Yoshi2_	Espyo: what purple and brown pellets?
2015-01-17 16:01:35	@Espyo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvOXys0osgQ
2015-01-17 18:57:34	Testyo	Yoshi2 got it right! The number was 83. It took directly to the chat
2015-01-17 19:11:53	@Espyo	:|
2015-01-17 19:13:46	@J	...
2015-01-17 19:49:41	Miles_	Um, no I haven't seen anything, I don't know where to look for that
2015-01-17 19:51:08	@Espyo	like, if there were file names for those types of pellets, that means they were at least added on purpose
2015-01-17 19:51:13	@Espyo	so we can exclude "lighting glitch"
2015-01-17 19:51:29	@Espyo	could still be a glitch for them to appear where they shouldn't, but at least it wouldn't really be a lighting glitch
2015-01-17 19:55:02	Yoshi2_	hey, I won a game
2015-01-17 19:55:08	Yoshi2_	wait, I wasn't even playing
2015-01-17 19:57:50	Miles_	You'd probably need to view the models to know for sure
2015-01-17 19:57:54	Miles_	So ask again in a year or two
2015-01-17 19:58:33	@Espyo	heh, okay
2015-01-17 20:11:59	Yoshi2_	until somebody who knows his stuff gets hold of some model files, progress is unlikely to be done
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2015-01-17 21:07:04	Yoshi2	I spy with my eye a bunch of typing mistakes on a tcrf page, time to correct them
2015-01-17 21:12:05	Yoshi2	the author is very proficient with the English language, he probably just missed those typos
2015-01-17 21:28:56	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-17 21:29:03	@Espyo	is it the Ocarina of Time page?
2015-01-17 21:31:10	Yoshi2	nope
2015-01-17 21:31:18	Yoshi2	daikatana
2015-01-17 21:35:45	Yoshi2	Espyo: something is missing here: "It seems they planned on the Harpy being one of the enemy types in Medusa's lair at one point, but didn't get of her model when they removed her from the arena."
2015-01-17 21:35:58	Yoshi2	I think it is the " but didn't get of her model " part
2015-01-17 21:36:16	Yoshi2	probably needs to be "didn't get rid of her model"
2015-01-17 21:36:39	Yoshi2	but I think it can be worded in a better way
2015-01-17 21:39:01	Yoshi2	also, the rest of the text says nothing about who "they" is, so I think it would be good to make it more precise
2015-01-17 21:56:30	@Espyo	yeah, agreed
2015-01-17 22:34:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Easter eggs by Piktoad (+301 Put the Donkey Kong reference of the introduction cutscene) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Easter_eggs&curid=371&diff=144071&oldid=144061
2015-01-17 22:44:24	Yoshi2	.....
2015-01-17 22:44:40	Yoshi2	somehow my browser messed up and I lost all the changes I did
2015-01-17 22:45:23	Yoshi2	which was a lot
2015-01-17 22:45:30	Yoshi2	damnit :/
2015-01-17 22:45:39	@Espyo	and that's why I installed Textarea Cache
2015-01-17 22:45:42	@Espyo	(Firefox addon)
2015-01-17 22:45:53	Yoshi2	I guess I should do that too
2015-01-17 22:45:54	@Espyo	Firefox already saves my changes to begin with, if a tab is closed
2015-01-17 22:45:58	@Espyo	but still, this is added security
2015-01-17 22:46:00	@Espyo	haven't regretted since
2015-01-17 22:53:09	Yoshi2	when I go back and forth, firefox likes to just clear everything I just wrote
2015-01-17 22:54:33	Yoshi2	well, I installed that addon now
2015-01-17 22:55:30	Yoshi2	I'll take a nap now, good night
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2015-01-17 23:00:25	@J	or use 'It's All Text!' on Firefox
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2015-01-18 12:01:59	Testyo	Hey everyone!
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2015-01-18 12:09:23	Yoshi2_	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-18 12:09:24	Testyo	(performance and show that you have what it takes to be somebody who can moderate the chatroom without problem
2015-01-18 12:10:18	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-18 12:10:26	@Espyo	hm... performance...
2015-01-18 12:10:34	Yoshi2_	it was painful, but I recreated my yesterday's wiki changes
2015-01-18 12:10:58	Yoshi2_	http://tcrf.net/index.php?title=Daikatana_%28Windows%29/Graphics&diff=263491&oldid=244053
2015-01-18 12:28:35	@Espyo	bad thing about rewritting: wasted work and you always forget something
2015-01-18 12:28:48	@Espyo	good thing: stuff you wrote before that you weren't happy with before is now a million times better
2015-01-18 12:29:03	@Espyo	(too many "before"s, oops)
2015-01-18 12:38:02	Yoshi2_	indeed
2015-01-18 12:38:28	Yoshi2_	replace "stuff that you wrote" with "stuff that somebody else wrote"
2015-01-18 12:38:36	Yoshi2_	and you have my situation
2015-01-18 12:38:52	@Espyo	oh, I meant YOUR rewritting
2015-01-18 12:39:03	@Espyo	like, you having to rewrite what you already wrote yesterday, before the browser crash
2015-01-18 12:39:17	Yoshi2_	ah
2015-01-18 12:39:23	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-18 12:42:06	Yoshi2_	well, I don't think it applies to lost work very well
2015-01-18 12:42:27	Yoshi2_	I end up feeling "Let's just get over with this"
2015-01-18 12:42:49	Yoshi2_	and I don't remember too well how I worded some things yesterday, so I end up writing it in a different way
2015-01-18 12:45:26	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-18 12:45:30	@Espyo	still, it was lost effort
2015-01-18 12:45:38	@Espyo	I mean, before the crash
2015-01-18 12:45:44	@Espyo	it was effort... that was lost
2015-01-18 12:46:26	Yoshi2_	yes
2015-01-18 12:48:08	Yoshi2_	and I just realized that I introduced a typo into the text where there wasn't a typo before
2015-01-18 12:53:42	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-18 12:53:43	@Espyo	it happens
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2015-01-18 15:33:09	Testyo	nope, starts in a few
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2015-01-18 16:54:21	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikmin 2 by AeroBlaze777 (+3007 m Added Controls.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_2&curid=1283&diff=144073&oldid=144070
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2015-01-18 18:11:24	@J	so there are some Dustforce user-made levels that are just all the levels from whole sections of the main game stuck together, 12 each
2015-01-18 18:11:54	@J	it's demoralising to see some times on the leaderboards that are faster than my IL times added up
2015-01-18 18:12:27	@J	especially since to get the top rank anyway you have to do a faultless run, on a 8+-minute level
2015-01-18 18:14:57	@Espyo	ouch
2015-01-18 18:15:04	@Espyo	although you did say the first part before
2015-01-18 18:15:16	@J	oh, really?
2015-01-18 18:15:27	@J	I didn't even remember seeing these before
2015-01-18 18:15:40	@J	great memory
2015-01-18 18:16:07	Yoshi2_	I don't remember J saying the first part
2015-01-18 18:16:21	@Espyo	pretty sure
2015-01-18 18:16:25	Yoshi2_	so that is 2 vs 1, maybe Espyo is hallucinating
2015-01-18 18:16:25	@Espyo	probably
2015-01-18 18:16:43	Yoshi2_	either that, or I also have faulty memory (or wasn't here when it was said)
2015-01-18 18:25:48	Yoshi2_	https://plus.google.com/112554834225710419972/posts/7LUfe5iVYJq
2015-01-18 18:25:56	Yoshi2_	I'm sitting here with my fingers crossed
2015-01-18 18:27:02	Yoshi2_	but some of the things he writes about is completely beyond my understanding
2015-01-18 18:36:46	@Espyo	nice
2015-01-18 18:45:43	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Yoshersislandds oilmarinquestion.png uploaded by Ellison (Supposed to be Olimar. Ripped from a video of a playthrough of Yoshi's Island DS...) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Yoshersislandds_oilmarinquestion.png
2015-01-18 18:45:43	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikmin in other video gam... by Ellison (+113 /* Yoshi's Island DS */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_in_other_video_games&curid=1331&diff=144097&oldid=142931
2015-01-18 19:00:47	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Pikmin in other vide... by Ellison (+326 /* Skyward Sword? */ new section) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Pikmin_in_other_video_games&curid=4351&diff=144098&oldid=137421
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2015-01-18 21:08:21	@PikFan	.
2015-01-18 21:10:38	@J	hey
2015-01-18 21:12:01	 *	@PikFan is checking Recent Changes
2015-01-18 21:14:51	@PikFan	so on Fanon I finally made Piklopedia into a disambig page
2015-01-18 21:15:48	@PikFan	though I wasn't sure whether to include all enemy lists, so I only included the ones that had "Piklopedia" in their name
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2015-01-18 21:22:46	PikFan2	...
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2015-01-18 21:34:55	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-18 21:34:56	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-18 21:35:55	@PikFan	hey
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2015-01-18 22:22:16	@PikFan	Wii U = too cumbersome
2015-01-18 22:22:23	@PikFan	therefore computer
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2015-01-19 18:54:53	Testyo	Greetings everyone!
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2015-01-19 18:55:52	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-01-19 18:55:53	Testyo	I replaced it, but the new one broke too, very quickly, so it was baseless and unjust
2015-01-19 18:56:21	Yoshi2	what a coincidence, I joined the channel barely a minute before testyo
2015-01-19 18:56:22	Testyo	you should probably unhook yourself but it has that stupid tripping
2015-01-19 18:58:28	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-19 18:58:32	@Espyo	heh, neat
2015-01-19 19:05:37	Yoshi2	another bit of progress done on my bms project \o/
2015-01-19 19:05:40	Yoshi2	https://github.com/RenolY2/py-playBMS/commit/9ba4233c797e8b48c3088f86d6e695ff439dbc44
2015-01-19 19:06:11	Yoshi2	at the current pace I might actually finish this before Half Life 3 (and Pikmin 4 maybe too?) comes out
2015-01-19 19:06:14	@Espyo	woop
2015-01-19 19:06:22	@Espyo	anything can be completed before HL3
2015-01-19 19:06:36	Yoshi2	good point
2015-01-19 19:07:54	Yoshi2	considering that arookas has been figuring out very interesting stuff about BMS lately, there is definitely no need to hurry
2015-01-19 19:12:26	@Espyo	mhm
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2015-01-19 20:23:45	@PikFan	okay
2015-01-19 20:23:59	@PikFan	this kirby fellow is rather persistent
2015-01-19 20:24:06	@PikFan	as well as ignorant
2015-01-19 20:24:26	Yoshi2	on the wiki?
2015-01-19 20:24:45	@PikFan	why can he not understand the concept of us leaving the wikia host behind?!
2015-01-19 20:24:58	@PikFan	(user on the wikia site)
2015-01-19 20:25:39	@PikFan	there is no need, absolutely no need at all to keep something alive when it should be dead
2015-01-19 20:25:55	@PikFan	he needs to let go
2015-01-19 20:25:57	@PikFan	let go
2015-01-19 20:26:01	@PikFan	let go
2015-01-19 20:26:39	@PikFan	gah...
2015-01-19 20:27:02	Yoshi2	let it go
2015-01-19 20:27:43	Yoshi2	considering that there is a replacement for the wikia host already, there really isn't any reason to use wikia
2015-01-19 20:27:49	Yoshi2	it's not like the wiki stops existing
2015-01-19 20:28:03	@PikFan	even though I'm not part of the conversation, it still angers me that someone would rather try to keep a pointless, worthless host up instead of moving to the new one
2015-01-19 20:28:51	@PikFan	does this guy have mental issues or something?
2015-01-19 20:29:32	@PikFan	it should be clear by now, yet he still cannot comprehend a simple message!
2015-01-19 20:29:53	@PikFan	some people...
2015-01-19 20:29:56	Yoshi2	does he try to explain why he thinks that the old host should be kept?
2015-01-19 20:30:39	@PikFan	here's the discussion: http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:22034
2015-01-19 20:38:59	Yoshi2	that is a very odd person
2015-01-19 20:39:34	@PikFan	indeed
2015-01-19 20:40:29	Yoshi2	it shouldn't really be that difficult to understand that this wiki is being abandoned on purpose, and all the content has been moved over
2015-01-19 20:43:25	@PikFan	yeah, but he keeps insisting that it be kept alive
2015-01-19 20:43:52	@Espyo	I might've landed the final nail on the coffin
2015-01-19 20:44:05	@Espyo	now that he brought up the "I don't want people to think Pikmin fans suck" point
2015-01-19 20:44:10	@Espyo	I was able to explain to him better
2015-01-19 20:44:18	@Espyo	in a... mindset? he's more comfortable with
2015-01-19 20:45:34	Yoshi2	ah yes, the mindset of somebody who leads a revolution against the oppressive regime
2015-01-19 20:45:35	@PikFan	hopefully...
2015-01-19 20:46:29	Yoshi2	though to be honest, I found your text rather difficult to understand
2015-01-19 20:46:42	@PikFan	none of this would have happened if not for wikia's decision four and a half years ago
2015-01-19 20:47:03	Yoshi2	what dicision did they make?
2015-01-19 20:47:08	Yoshi2	*decision
2015-01-19 20:47:14	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-19 20:47:23	@Espyo	I meant the "don't want Pikmin fans to be seen badly" mindset
2015-01-19 20:47:26	@PikFan	they enforced a new layout many people hated
2015-01-19 20:47:48	@PikFan	so a lot of communities left
2015-01-19 20:47:59	@Espyo	oh, Yoshi2 doesn't know the story?
2015-01-19 20:48:02	@Espyo	that's the gist of it
2015-01-19 20:48:06	@Espyo	[[Pikipedia:About]]
2015-01-19 20:48:06	Testyo	"Pikipedia:About" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikipedia:About
2015-01-19 20:48:19	@Espyo	that explains more, but it's still small
2015-01-19 20:48:24	@Espyo	well, not like the full story adds anything
2015-01-19 20:48:25	@PikFan	yeah, that's putting it mildly...
2015-01-19 20:48:34	@Espyo	it's like the full story could fit into a feature-length BOOK
2015-01-19 20:48:42	@Espyo	but nobody really wants that, and it's not really needed
2015-01-19 20:48:51	@PikFan	probably a novella
2015-01-19 20:49:16	@Espyo	yep
2015-01-19 20:50:19	Yoshi2	is the layout that can now be seen on wikia pages the one they adopted?
2015-01-19 20:50:29	@PikFan	but if wikia had let the communities choose on a per-wiki basis if the new layout could be implemented or not, lots of people would have been happy
2015-01-19 20:50:36	@PikFan	although...
2015-01-19 20:50:50	@PikFan	being away from wikia has its benefits
2015-01-19 20:51:10	@PikFan	so maybe it was a good thing that wikia didn't let us choose
2015-01-19 20:51:20	@PikFan	in a sense, anyway
2015-01-19 20:51:46	@PikFan	it still caused unneeded chaos
2015-01-19 20:52:09	Yoshi2	I don't remember wikia ever having a different layout, but I always found the layout it had to be rather odd
2015-01-19 20:52:23	Yoshi2	there is nothing wrong with the usual wikipedia-style layout
2015-01-19 20:53:36	@PikFan	wikia used to use the classic monobook layout
2015-01-19 20:53:56	@PikFan	then they introduced the 'Wikia' layout
2015-01-19 20:54:32	@PikFan	meanwhile, I'm waiting for my laptop to start up
2015-01-19 20:54:41	@PikFan	it's got a bad virus
2015-01-19 20:54:56	@PikFan	no clue what it is though
2015-01-19 20:57:22	Yoshi2	my biggest fear is that I have a virus and just don't know it yet
2015-01-19 20:57:35	@Espyo	tell me about it
2015-01-19 20:57:44	@Espyo	there's this Steam virus that's been around for... well, apparently, years
2015-01-19 20:57:51	@Espyo	and I actually fell for it in a moment of perfect distraction
2015-01-19 20:57:54	@Espyo	luckily it's a stupid virus
2015-01-19 20:58:05	 *	@PikFan laughs nervously
2015-01-19 20:58:05	@Espyo	I just had to boot into safe mode to remove the .src, and all was good
2015-01-19 20:58:09	Yoshi2	but virus scans never show anything and I don't feel anything odd when using the computer
2015-01-19 20:58:11	@Espyo	...but what if I just THINK it's all good
2015-01-19 20:58:15	@Espyo	same here
2015-01-19 20:58:32	@Espyo	and I use MalwareBytes and Spybot, the two best free ones
2015-01-19 20:58:51	@Espyo	...but then I fear the viruses infected the AVs and masked themselves
2015-01-19 20:59:05	@Espyo	no symptoms yet... until I start dishing out credit card numbers on stuff I buy online
2015-01-19 20:59:07	@Espyo	and then one day...
2015-01-19 20:59:09	@Espyo	*shudder*
2015-01-19 20:59:14	@Espyo	I'm pretty safe with internet stuff
2015-01-19 20:59:19	@Espyo	and c'mon, I'm "a computer guy"
2015-01-19 20:59:23	@Espyo	I don't fall for crap easily
2015-01-19 20:59:25	@Espyo	but still
2015-01-19 20:59:28	@PikFan	everything goes to hell
2015-01-19 21:00:04	Yoshi2	the worst will happen when you expect it the least
2015-01-19 21:00:24	Yoshi2	I'm still waiting for my desktop to die and the HDD to crash
2015-01-19 21:00:28	Yoshi2	but nope, still going strong
2015-01-19 21:00:43	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-19 21:00:58	Yoshi2	6 or 7 years old now, that's far past the usual age of when HDDs normally crash
2015-01-19 21:21:27	@J	in my experience desktop HDDs last a long time, laptop ones not so much, probably because of too much heat
2015-01-19 21:22:03	@J	desktops in general seem to last at least 3 times as long as laptops
2015-01-19 21:24:15	@J	I think I'll have no trouble with malware by mostly using programs that probably 0.000001% of the population uses
2015-01-19 21:24:40	@J	in some cases that's not even an exaggeration
2015-01-19 21:26:13	Yoshi2	programs you wrote yourself?
2015-01-19 21:26:28	@J	yep
2015-01-19 21:27:19	@J	for 'core' software, bspwm, jsession and uzbl are probably the most obscure
2015-01-19 21:28:05	Yoshi2	those sound like somebody typed up a random combination of letters
2015-01-19 21:28:18	@J	yes
2015-01-19 21:28:53	@J	so do most acronyms, though
2015-01-19 21:30:19	Yoshi2	bspwm apparently is a window manager, uzbl is some sort of collection of tools?
2015-01-19 21:31:25	Yoshi2	but google fails to provide me with a satisfactory explanation to jsession in the first 30 seconds of searching
2015-01-19 21:31:43	@J	I guess I use uzbl-browser, really
2015-01-19 21:31:51	@J	that's the only real thing anyone made with uzbl
2015-01-19 21:32:00	@J	and the thing it was made for
2015-01-19 21:32:19	@J	jsession is a desktop session manager I wrote
2015-01-19 21:32:58	Yoshi2	that explains why google didn't find much about it
2015-01-19 21:34:26	@J	thanks
2015-01-19 21:34:54	Yoshi2	obscurity confirmed, I guess
2015-01-19 21:36:01	@Espyo	*hipster
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2015-01-19 21:36:36	@J	wait, what are you correcting?
2015-01-19 21:37:07	@PikFan	J: you use antimalware programs you wrote yourself?
2015-01-19 21:37:10	@PikFan	rad
2015-01-19 21:37:18	@J	no, I use programs
2015-01-19 21:37:41	@J	the point was malware won't exist that targets programs used by hardly anyone
2015-01-19 21:38:06	@J	and when those programs include major entry points, like the web browser
2015-01-19 21:38:40	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> obscurity confirmed, I guess
2015-01-19 21:38:44	@Espyo	hipster confirmed, I guess
2015-01-19 21:38:54	@J	silly
2015-01-19 21:39:03	@Espyo	I don't think malware targets programs
2015-01-19 21:39:08	@Espyo	it targets pretty much the system
2015-01-19 21:39:15	@Espyo	or /any/ file, not specific ones
2015-01-19 21:39:49	@PikFan	..."malware won't exist that targets programs"?
2015-01-19 21:40:07	@J	browser was the main one
2015-01-19 21:40:13	@PikFan	either I can't think right or there is something very wrong with that statement
2015-01-19 21:40:24	@J	I think you missed some of my words?
2015-01-19 21:40:34	@J	malware _does_ exist that targets browsers
2015-01-19 21:41:00	@PikFan	13:40	J	the point was malware won't exist that targets programs used by hardly anyone
2015-01-19 21:41:13	@J	yeah, 'used by hardly anyone' is the important part
2015-01-19 21:41:51	@PikFan	right
2015-01-19 21:46:14	@PikFan	laptop's not working, and I want to play Hyrule Warriors now
2015-01-19 21:46:17	@PikFan	bye
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2015-01-20 19:25:43	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-20 19:32:23	@J	...accidentally marked all RSS items as read - _this_ is why backups; it's so much more common than your computer/disk dying
2015-01-20 19:35:41	@Espyo	ouch
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2015-01-20 19:38:56	@J	(I do have backups, just reverted to yesterday)
2015-01-20 19:38:58	@J	hi Yoshi2 
2015-01-20 19:39:21	@Espyo	I can understand marking one folder as read
2015-01-20 19:39:23	@Espyo	but all of them?
2015-01-20 19:39:44	@Espyo	hm, speaking of backups...
2015-01-20 19:39:45	@Espyo	Testyo: record
2015-01-20 19:39:45	Testyo	What I know about you is: Recording since 07/08/2013 (17M ago). Last activity on 20/01/2015 19:39 (now). Total number of words is 271022. Total number of lines is 44615. (6.07468 words/line.) Game victories: Cards Against Humanity: 2, hangman: 5, number game: 2, scrambled word: 34. Last words were: hm, speaking of backups..., on #pikipedia.
2015-01-20 19:39:47	@Espyo	Testyo: record Yoshi2
2015-01-20 19:39:47	Testyo	What I know about Yoshi2 is: Recording since 18/10/2014 (3M ago). Last activity on 20/01/2015 19:38 (1m ago). Total number of words is 16815. Total number of lines is 1953. (8.60983 words/line.) Game victories: hangman: 1, scrambled word: 43.
2015-01-20 19:39:49	@Espyo	okay, good
2015-01-20 19:40:04	Yoshi2	good day
2015-01-20 19:42:13	Yoshi2	did I miss something?
2015-01-20 19:43:10	@J	[19:39:21] @Espyo I can understand marking one folder as read
2015-01-20 19:43:10	@J	[19:39:23] @Espyo but all of them?
2015-01-20 19:43:20	@J	I was wondering what 'Catchup All' does
2015-01-20 19:43:23	@J	apparently that
2015-01-20 19:43:41	@J	Yoshi2: [19:32:23] @J ...accidentally marked all RSS items as read - _this_ is why backups; it's so much more common than your computer/disk dying
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2015-01-20 19:45:49	@Espyo	lol
2015-01-20 19:46:13	@Espyo	catchup all... I mean, I guess it makes sense
2015-01-20 19:46:14	UltraMario	my entrance is amusing. :>
2015-01-20 19:46:23	@Espyo	I wouldn't recommend putting ketchup on feeds, so what else could it be
2015-01-20 19:46:25	@Espyo	hey UltraMario
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2015-01-20 21:42:15	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:ShadedGardenBESC.png uploaded by AeroBlaze777 (A screenshot of Shaded Garden in Battle enemies! mode.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:ShadedGardenBESC.png
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2015-01-20 22:03:56	@Espyo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQYsFshbkYw
2015-01-20 22:10:19	@Espyo	so this guy does Tool-Assisted Speedruns
2015-01-20 22:10:23	@Espyo	AND is a beast at programming
2015-01-20 22:10:29	@Espyo	this video successfully messed with my mind
2015-01-20 22:10:38	@Espyo	and the engine's sector-based geometry is based on Doom
2015-01-20 22:17:52	@Espyo	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXwARLpA5aA what's WRONG with this guy
2015-01-20 22:17:56	@Espyo	he's a freaking wizard
2015-01-20 22:17:59	@Espyo	holy hell
2015-01-20 22:18:10	@Espyo	he does acapella, and Rubik's Cubes...
2015-01-20 22:18:11	@Espyo	wow
2015-01-20 22:18:14	@Espyo	just... amazing
2015-01-20 22:18:24	@Espyo	I mean, sure, those last two aren't that amazing in and of themselves, but
2015-01-20 22:23:34	@J	isn't that the guy who created tasvideos?
2015-01-20 22:23:38	@J	as in the website
2015-01-20 22:37:37	@Espyo	created...
2015-01-20 22:37:40	@Espyo	you know what, that's very likely
2015-01-20 22:37:50	@Espyo	I knew that I knew his name from tasvideos, but as more than just a runner
2015-01-20 23:03:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Shaded Garden by AeroBlaze777 (+2099 Completed the merge.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Shaded_Garden&curid=15747&diff=144115&oldid=143302
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2015-01-20 23:59:39	Ford4385	Hello everyone
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2015-01-21 00:00:54	Ford4385	Is anyone here?
2015-01-21 00:00:59	UltraMario	hi
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2015-01-21 00:01:33	Ford4385	Hey
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2015-01-21 00:02:41	Ford4385	Should I buy pikmin 3? I want your opinion, because I almost have enough
2015-01-21 00:03:04	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-21 00:03:11	@Espyo	yep, Pikmin 3 is a must-have
2015-01-21 00:03:12	Ford4385	Hey Espyo
2015-01-21 00:03:14	@Espyo	pretty much all games are
2015-01-21 00:03:22	@Espyo	you caught me in a bad time, though, I need to go sleep
2015-01-21 00:03:22	@Espyo	night
2015-01-21 00:03:28	Ford4385	Night
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2015-01-21 00:03:43	Ford4385	I think I will buy it
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2015-01-21 18:54:01	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2015-01-21 18:56:39	Yoshi2_	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-21 18:56:40	Testyo	should've been a Jar of truth
2015-01-21 19:03:13	@Espyo	hey
2015-01-21 19:31:18	@J	agreed
2015-01-21 19:49:34	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User account Brrrs created http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Brrrs
2015-01-21 19:50:20	@Espyo	someone's cold
2015-01-21 19:51:34	Yoshi2_	I have a slight cold
2015-01-21 19:54:37	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User talk:Espyo by Brrrs (+461 /* Deletion request */ new section) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Espyo&curid=5393&diff=144132&oldid=143372
2015-01-21 19:54:44	@Espyo	uhm...
2015-01-21 19:54:54	@Espyo	a deletion request?
2015-01-21 19:55:35	@Espyo	hm, all right
2015-01-21 20:09:43	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User talk:Espyo by Brrrs (+313 /* Deletion request */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Espyo&curid=5393&diff=144134&oldid=144133
2015-01-21 20:19:52	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User talk:Espyo by Brrrs (+151 /* Deletion request */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Espyo&curid=5393&diff=144136&oldid=144135
2015-01-21 20:19:52	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User talk:Espyo by Brrrs (-7 m (Please let me remove this, because Google could track it)) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Espyo&curid=5393&diff=144137&oldid=144136
2015-01-21 20:25:13	@Espyo	there, he can knock himself out
2015-01-21 20:30:54	Yoshi2_	with all the stuff going around, a public page being tracked shouldn't be the worst of one's worries
2015-01-21 20:31:45	@Espyo	yeah
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2015-01-21 23:12:39	@J	'all the stuff'
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2015-01-21 23:38:34	@Espyo	personal dramas
2015-01-21 23:38:36	@Espyo	probably
2015-01-21 23:41:46	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User account Whitepikmin3829 created http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User:Whitepikmin3829
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2015-01-22 11:57:27	Pokepal052	hi
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2015-01-22 18:43:01	@J	is the Pikipedia skin messing up for anyone else?
2015-01-22 18:43:11	@J	seems like css files fail to download properly sometimes
2015-01-22 18:50:17	Yoshi2	I'm pretty sure somebody else mentioned that issue in the past at least once
2015-01-22 18:50:50	Yoshi2	and I think Espyo said something about it being a problem with the server
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2015-01-22 19:04:09	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-22 19:20:27	Yoshi2	hey Espyo, Testyo & UltraMaryo
2015-01-22 19:20:28	Testyo	... but that's programming?
2015-01-22 19:21:10	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-22 19:21:15	@Espyo	well, are we programming?
2015-01-22 19:25:46	@J	[18:43:01] @J is the Pikipedia skin messing up for anyone else?
2015-01-22 19:25:46	@J	[18:43:11] @J seems like css files fail to download properly sometimes
2015-01-22 19:25:58	@Espyo	...Pikipedia?
2015-01-22 19:26:05	@Espyo	fanon was having that problem before
2015-01-22 19:26:09	@Espyo	now Pikipedia's at it too?
2015-01-22 19:26:13	@J	maybe
2015-01-22 19:26:24	@Espyo	anyway, I didn't notice anything lately, except for the whole website being down for an hour or so
2015-01-22 19:26:30	@Espyo	slow day at work, so I wanted to do minor things on articles
2015-01-22 19:26:32	@Espyo	and... dead
2015-01-22 19:26:34	@Espyo	so was SmashWiki
2015-01-22 19:26:36	@J	might be my proxies, so try it yourself now
2015-01-22 19:27:13	@Espyo	nope, checked a couple of pages, and it's all fine
2015-01-22 19:31:43	@J	Connect to www.pikminwiki.com:80 failed: Connection reset by client
2015-01-22 19:31:51	@J	for http://www.pikminwiki.com/load.php?debug=false&lang=en&modules=mediawiki.legacy.commonPrint%2Cshared%7Cmediawiki.skinning.interface%7Cmediawiki.ui.button%7Cskins.monobook.styles&only=styles&skin=monobook&*
2015-01-22 19:32:04	@J	loads fine manually though
2015-01-22 19:33:14	@Espyo	how weird
2015-01-22 19:37:25	@J	okay, looks like Polipo is messing it up somehow
2015-01-22 19:38:47	@J	it might be using a feature not supported by the server
2015-01-22 19:40:24	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-22 19:40:28	@Espyo	a new program?
2015-01-22 19:40:34	@J	not really
2015-01-22 19:40:46	@J	well, I'll research after dinner
2015-01-22 19:42:09	@J	'Some users report that after installing Polipo for Windows, their S key stops working until they reboot the computer. We've been unable to duplicate the issue. It appears to be related to the version of the Nullsoft Installer and some combination of installed software in the system. If you have this issue, please install the Polipo binary manually.'
2015-01-22 19:42:11	@J	oh my
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2015-01-22 19:44:28	@Espyo	what
2015-01-22 19:44:30	@Espyo	insane
2015-01-22 19:44:34	@Espyo	wait... you're using windows now?
2015-01-22 19:55:00	Yoshi2	ReactOS is where it's at
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2015-01-22 20:01:11	@Espyo	when Pikipedia went kaput today, it did mention something about a proxy cache
2015-01-22 20:01:49	@Espyo	and now Blue Swift from the Pikipedia skype is complaining that no page works because "unable to connect to proxy server"
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2015-01-22 20:13:28	@J	no, I just found that in the FAQ
2015-01-22 20:13:32	@J	and it's funny
2015-01-22 20:13:57	@J	that would be a proxy thing on the server's end
2015-01-22 20:14:05	@J	this is on my end - I run Polipo as a local proxy
2015-01-22 20:16:14	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-22 20:16:16	@J	wait, I _only_ have the problem on this page: http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikipedia:Current_projects&diff=next&oldid=143862
2015-01-22 20:16:20	@Espyo	yeah, I figured
2015-01-22 20:16:27	@Espyo	and Blue Swift pretty much has GENERAL proxy problems
2015-01-22 20:16:29	@J	oops, lie
2015-01-22 20:16:36	@J	every page but RC?
2015-01-22 20:16:38	@J	I don't knowv
2015-01-22 20:16:40	@Espyo	did a reload-cache-skip, I'm guessing?
2015-01-22 20:16:43	@J	yeah
2015-01-22 20:16:58	@Espyo	someone should make a change so the server has to give you something different
2015-01-22 20:17:03	@Espyo	or, you know, you can toggle one of the options
2015-01-22 20:17:05	@Espyo	tried that?
2015-01-22 20:17:09	@Espyo	like show bots, or hide patrolled
2015-01-22 20:17:15	@J	oh, it's RC too
2015-01-22 20:17:20	@J	just worked a couple of times randomly
2015-01-22 20:17:35	@J	you can always just add random parameters to the URL
2015-01-22 20:18:19	@Espyo	yeah, that too
2015-01-22 20:18:28	@Espyo	randomly, huh
2015-01-22 20:18:35	@Espyo	just like fanon's CSS failing, pretty much
2015-01-22 20:24:57	@J	yeah, sometimes I get plain monobook (it loses the custom styles), sometimes I get broken with custom styles (it loses the monobook)
2015-01-22 20:25:04	@J	sometimes no styles at all...
2015-01-22 20:25:27	@Espyo	really messed up
2015-01-22 20:25:37	@Espyo	wait, PRC or Fanon in general?
2015-01-22 20:34:06	@J	what's PRC?
2015-01-22 20:34:17	@Espyo	Pikipedia Recent Changes
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2015-01-22 20:49:48	@J	oh
2015-01-22 20:50:02	@J	I only tried Pikipedia, and I get the same thing on every Pikipedia page
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2015-01-22 20:51:08	@Espyo	weird, then
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2015-01-22 21:10:29	Testyo	Hello everyone!
2015-01-22 22:16:15	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 2 by 50.130.168.250 (+135 /* Invisible treasures */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_2&curid=8423&diff=144166&oldid=144083
2015-01-22 22:57:50	@J	 = ===+
2015-01-22 22:57:56	@J	uh...wrong window
2015-01-22 23:01:51	@Espyo	that'll probably give a syntax error
2015-01-22 23:02:16	@J	it was in VLC
2015-01-22 23:02:57	@Espyo	even worse
2015-01-22 23:03:13	@J	why
2015-01-22 23:03:45	@Espyo	that's not a video
2015-01-22 23:03:49	@Espyo	were you trying to do ASCII art?
2015-01-22 23:05:12	@J	I don't get it
2015-01-22 23:05:24	@J	you don't make videos in VLC
2015-01-22 23:07:52	@J	oh, I get it
2015-01-22 23:08:07	@J	it wasn't a filename, it's space to pause, = to set speed to 1x, etc.
2015-01-22 23:08:23	@J	...and I wasn't looking at the screen, and it wasn't working, so I pressed more stuff
2015-01-22 23:11:34	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-22 23:11:35	@Espyo	fair enough
2015-01-22 23:11:41	@Espyo	hah
2015-01-22 23:13:55	@J	well, got to go
2015-01-22 23:13:56	@J	bye
2015-01-22 23:14:05	@Espyo	bye
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2015-01-23 19:53:53	Testyo	Good evening everyone!
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2015-01-23 19:55:45	@J	.
2015-01-23 19:56:23	@Espyo	hey
2015-01-23 19:56:26	@Espyo	windows 8 updated yesterday
2015-01-23 19:56:35	@Espyo	today, it forgot that it was meant to log on to my user automatically
2015-01-23 19:56:49	@Espyo	because, you know, it's not like auto-login isn't a basic functionality or anything
2015-01-23 19:57:01	@Espyo	I'm seriously considering starting a journal
2015-01-23 19:57:10	@Espyo	every day, I point down the windowsness of the day
2015-01-23 19:57:31	@Espyo	for as far back as I can remember, there hasn't been a single day in which windows didn't do something idiotic
2015-01-23 20:06:05	@J	all complex software is buggy
2015-01-23 20:06:31	@J	solution is to only make simple software
2015-01-23 20:19:43	@Espyo	amateur mistakes from a major company are never forgivable, though
2015-01-23 20:20:08	@Espyo	plus what really stings me is how people praise windows for being a god given digital flesh
2015-01-23 20:20:14	@Espyo	when I'm struggling to get anything done
2015-01-23 20:27:15	@J	they do?
2015-01-23 20:28:30	@Espyo	pretty much
2015-01-23 20:29:05	@Espyo	http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/Puffstool?curid=1509&diff=112884&oldid=108481
2015-01-23 20:29:08	@Espyo	sometimes, wikia is too good
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2015-01-23 20:32:14	@J	what a glich
2015-01-23 20:35:54	BetqMater	jhi
2015-01-23 20:45:41	@Espyo	hi
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2015-01-23 21:53:44	@J	http://www.tarsnap.com/ this looks good
2015-01-23 21:54:00	@J	I'll probably look into it when my current backup subscription runs out
2015-01-23 22:00:43	@Espyo	hm, neat
2015-01-23 22:00:58	@Espyo	did... this just seriously measure its prices in picodollars
2015-01-23 22:02:47	Yoshi2	well, still better than the idea of measuring amounts of money in picohitlers
2015-01-23 22:04:39	@Espyo	hah, I remember that
2015-01-23 22:18:38	Yoshi2	I'll take a nap now, good night everybody
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2015-01-24 00:07:51	KirbyBulborb	Guys dose anyone have Ideas?
2015-01-24 00:08:37	KirbyBulborb	Hello
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2015-01-24 10:25:28	@J	good morning
2015-01-24 10:29:58	Yoshi2	morning
2015-01-24 11:01:12	@J	have you seen the game Besiege?
2015-01-24 11:01:14	@J	looks fun
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2015-01-24 12:01:50	Testyo	Good afternoon everyone!
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2015-01-24 12:02:37	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-01-24 12:02:38	Testyo	their effect is 10 times greater than what it should be described
2015-01-24 12:14:40	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-24 12:48:38	@J	so I finally got the best rank on the easiest of the 'difficult' Dustforce levels
2015-01-24 12:48:39	@J	http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qwidget.html
2015-01-24 12:48:40	@J	...
2015-01-24 12:48:41	@J	http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/kilo.mkv
2015-01-24 12:48:47	@J	2 clipboards never helped anyone
2015-01-24 12:49:21	@J	one day I'm going to paste a password or something
2015-01-24 12:52:18	Yoshi2	while I never pasted a password into the chat, I did forget the / at the start of the command when I tried to identify myself with nickserv
2015-01-24 12:52:22	Yoshi2	once
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2015-01-24 13:04:16	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> once
2015-01-24 13:04:22	@Espyo	J leaked his password at least three times
2015-01-24 13:04:31	@Espyo	but now his password is auto-corrected to something irrelevant
2015-01-24 13:04:36	@Espyo	in the case he does post it
2015-01-24 13:04:40	@Espyo	and well done J
2015-01-24 13:04:42	@Espyo	how many weeks did it take
2015-01-24 13:07:56	@J	hmm, not sure really
2015-01-24 13:08:09	@J	I did that and some of the harder ones, then went back to easier levels for a while
2015-01-24 13:08:21	@J	then I did custom levels, many of which are quite hard
2015-01-24 13:08:28	@J	and came back to this one and it was easier
2015-01-24 13:09:01	@J	still has two really annoying parts, though, you need really accurate timing
2015-01-24 13:15:47	@J	on an unrelated note, I've spent this morning reading through some of my old notes and writings - games, poem, stories
2015-01-24 13:15:52	@J	there's some interesting stuff in there
2015-01-24 13:16:26	@J	not sure I should've been using so many semi-colons at the age of 9, though
2015-01-24 13:20:00	@Espyo	if you think you're using too many semicolons, chances are you did; they're easy to abuse
2015-01-24 13:29:00	Yoshi2	the auto-correct thing is actually not bad
2015-01-24 13:29:56	@J	my actual password starts with /, which is the easy way to do it
2015-01-24 13:29:58	@J	it does this:
2015-01-24 13:30:00	@J	guess what, I just entered my password again
2015-01-24 13:33:41	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-24 13:33:44	@Espyo	nice
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2015-01-24 17:01:02	@Espyo	I love Git, I really do
2015-01-24 17:01:08	@Espyo	but it sure knows how to push my buttons and make me confused
2015-01-24 17:01:16	@Espyo	I made a simple branch on the engine some days ago
2015-01-24 17:01:22	@Espyo	so I stashed my changes on the current branch
2015-01-24 17:01:26	@Espyo	made a new branch, and worked there
2015-01-24 17:01:28	@Espyo	so far so good
2015-01-24 17:01:39	@Espyo	today I wanted to go back and go to the normal branch, and pop my stashed changes
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2015-01-24 17:01:48	@Espyo	errors, conflicts, permission errors
2015-01-24 17:01:54	Prezintenden	that's me
2015-01-24 17:01:58	@Espyo	and then I realized Dropbox was synching the .git folder, which was stupid
2015-01-24 17:02:01	@Espyo	so I told it not to
2015-01-24 17:02:03	@Espyo	giant mistake
2015-01-24 17:02:07	@Espyo	hey Prez
2015-01-24 17:02:14	@Espyo	just sharing my game development woes
2015-01-24 17:02:32	@J	would Dropbox ever change the local version?
2015-01-24 17:02:34	Prezintenden	what exactly are you developing
2015-01-24 17:02:36	@J	not really sure how it works
2015-01-24 17:02:38	@J	hi Prez
2015-01-24 17:02:39	@Espyo	the Pikmin fangame engine
2015-01-24 17:02:42	Prezintenden	hi
2015-01-24 17:02:51	@Espyo	Dropbox index my changes to the files
2015-01-24 17:03:02	@Espyo	whether they're caused by me directly, or git's branching, stashing, etc.
2015-01-24 17:03:19	@Espyo	*indexes
2015-01-24 17:04:25	@J	not sure if that's a yes or a no
2015-01-24 17:04:51	@Espyo	Dropbox only changes the local version
2015-01-24 17:05:43	@J	you change files, then it reverts your changes?
2015-01-24 17:06:01	@Espyo	no, no
2015-01-24 17:06:05	@Espyo	uhm
2015-01-24 17:06:09	@Espyo	all right, Dropbox doesn't CHANGE anything
2015-01-24 17:06:12	@Espyo	unless I tell it to
2015-01-24 17:06:23	@Espyo	it just silently observes my file changes and uploads them to the cloud
2015-01-24 17:06:34	@Espyo	but if you tell it to stop being synched to a specific folder
2015-01-24 17:06:37	@Espyo	like I did with .git
2015-01-24 17:06:41	@Espyo	it deletes the folder
2015-01-24 17:06:53	@J	...oh
2015-01-24 17:06:54	@Espyo	...which is stupid, because you can bring the folder back and it'll work fine without synching
2015-01-24 17:06:55	@J	nice
2015-01-24 17:07:20	@Espyo	I've done it with debug and release folders for some programs
2015-01-24 17:07:29	@Espyo	because I hate having Dropbox synch every time I compile
2015-01-24 17:07:34	@Espyo	I just want my source code safe, not my builds
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2015-01-24 17:07:52	@Espyo	I c+p the folder elsewhere, tell it to stop synching, it deletes, I bring the folder back, all is good
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2015-01-24 17:07:55	@J	then wouldn't it sync every time you edit, which would be more frequent?
2015-01-24 17:07:59	@Espyo	but with this .git folder, either I messed up, or Dropbox did
2015-01-24 17:08:00	@J	wow, 5 seconds
2015-01-24 17:08:04	@Espyo	new record
2015-01-24 17:08:22	@Espyo	it only synchs the things that have been edite
2015-01-24 17:08:23	@Espyo	*d
2015-01-24 17:08:41	@J	oh, and a release would be a single large file
2015-01-24 17:08:50	@Espyo	...on any sensible system, yes
2015-01-24 17:09:00	@Espyo	on windows, it just dumps the object files on the same folder as the build
2015-01-24 17:09:04	@Espyo	and debugging symbols
2015-01-24 17:09:07	@Espyo	and intellisense nonsense
2015-01-24 17:09:08	@Espyo	and trash
2015-01-24 17:09:11	@J	right
2015-01-24 17:09:17	@J	and because they're binary, they change every time
2015-01-24 17:09:21	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-24 17:09:27	@Espyo	okay, Dropbox just finished deleting-undeleting the .git folder
2015-01-24 17:09:32	@Espyo	I... really wish I could explain this episode better
2015-01-24 17:09:38	@Espyo	I just hope I can get back my stash
2015-01-24 17:10:04	@Espyo	all right, it works
2015-01-24 17:10:07	@J	yesterday someone at work lost their stash because their computer randomly rebooted overnight
2015-01-24 17:10:12	@Espyo	but the stash apply still has errors
2015-01-24 17:10:14	@Espyo	wait what
2015-01-24 17:10:16	@Espyo	why?
2015-01-24 17:10:18	@Espyo	it's not in RAM
2015-01-24 17:10:21	@Espyo	a stash should be on disk
2015-01-24 17:10:22	@Espyo	what
2015-01-24 17:10:34	@J	I mean, the repository got corrupted
2015-01-24 17:10:43	@Espyo	still, how?
2015-01-24 17:10:47	@J	because Windows
2015-01-24 17:10:47	@Espyo	did it reboot mid-stashing process?
2015-01-24 17:11:02	@J	yeah, no idea what was actually using it, if anything
2015-01-24 17:11:12	@Espyo	*shrug*, the usual
2015-01-24 17:11:26	@Espyo	it fails to apply the stash, complaining some files already exist
2015-01-24 17:11:27	@J	anyway, the IDE we use saves all changes to all project files forever, so he could restore from before he stashed
2015-01-24 17:11:36	@Espyo	...I know? I'm applying stashed changes, not stashed creations or anything
2015-01-24 17:11:45	@Espyo	oh, that's neat
2015-01-24 17:12:16	@J	it should still apply all the changes it can, then let you merge manually, right?
2015-01-24 17:12:28	@Espyo	yeah, it should
2015-01-24 17:12:33	@Espyo	but it looks like it just doesn't apply anything
2015-01-24 17:13:10	@Espyo	hmm...
2015-01-24 17:13:16	@Espyo	it's actually complaining about files I DO have
2015-01-24 17:13:25	@Espyo	and I guess I DID *ADD* those files
2015-01-24 17:13:28	@Espyo	like
2015-01-24 17:13:35	@Espyo	version -> added some files -> stashed
2015-01-24 17:13:44	@Espyo	and it's complaining because it wants to readd the files, and they exist
2015-01-24 17:13:50	@Espyo	now as to why they exist, it's probably Dropbox shenanigans
2015-01-24 17:13:52	@Espyo	boy...
2015-01-24 17:15:14	@J	git reset --hard and git clean -f if it's safe
2015-01-24 17:15:25	@Espyo	probably not
2015-01-24 17:15:30	@Espyo	no worries anyway, I think I've got it
2015-01-24 17:15:34	@Espyo	I can just delete the files
2015-01-24 17:15:39	@Espyo	what does the -f flag do on clean?
2015-01-24 17:15:43	@J	force
2015-01-24 17:15:53	@J	you have to pass -f or -i (interactive) or another one I forget
2015-01-24 17:16:59	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-24 17:17:06	@Espyo	oh, wait, I'm fine now
2015-01-24 17:17:11	@Espyo	phew
2015-01-24 17:18:46	@Espyo	oh, at work, they frown upon pull
2015-01-24 17:18:50	@Espyo	instead they prefer fetch and rebase
2015-01-24 17:20:15	@J	pull --rebase
2015-01-24 17:20:33	@J	but only if you didn't merge another branch locally
2015-01-24 17:21:49	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-24 17:21:57	@Espyo	I'll try telling them that
2015-01-24 17:23:30	@J	pull --rebase is just shorthand
2015-01-24 17:23:48	@Espyo	oh
2015-01-24 17:24:11	@J	but yeah, rebase replays the commits, so you only want to do it if all new local commits are _only_ in this branch
2015-01-24 17:24:22	@J	ie. all commits in 'git cherry'
2015-01-24 17:24:49	@J	otherwise you'll get duplicates of all those commits, and any merge involving duplicates will have the commits conflict with themselves
2015-01-24 17:24:54	@J	which is horrible to resolve
2015-01-24 17:25:26	@Espyo	ouch
2015-01-24 17:25:27	@J	rather than 'rebase instead of merge', it should be 'merge unless you know what you're doing'
2015-01-24 17:27:36	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-24 17:27:46	@Espyo	but they just don't like the idea of having their history be all curvy
2015-01-24 17:27:51	@Espyo	they like it as a straight line
2015-01-24 17:29:11	@J	silly
2015-01-24 17:30:17	@Espyo	mhm
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2015-01-24 17:35:38	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-24 17:37:05	Yoshi2_	dropbox deletting the local folder if you tell it to stop synching something has annoyed me in the past very much
2015-01-24 17:37:21	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-24 17:37:32	@Espyo	people have been asking for it to not be a thing for years
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2015-01-24 17:40:45	Yoshi2_	I wonder what the point of it is
2015-01-24 17:41:06	Yoshi2_	"stop synching" doesn't even imply "delete the folder", so it only confuses the user
2015-01-24 17:41:44	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-24 17:42:37	Yoshi2_	I also think it has lead to me losing quite a few files because I wanted to move some stuff from dropbox to my local device
2015-01-24 17:43:30	Yoshi2_	after I stopped synching some folders, I went on to remove them from dropbox forever
2015-01-24 17:43:43	Yoshi2_	and you can guess what happened next
2015-01-24 17:43:47	@Espyo	yeah...
2015-01-24 17:50:52	Yoshi2_	http://play.elevatorsaga.com
2015-01-24 17:50:58	Yoshi2_	this game is suprisingly complicated
2015-01-24 17:52:56	Prezintenden	this looks like something i expect to get paid for doing
2015-01-24 17:53:06	@Espyo	hey, pretty nice
2015-01-24 17:53:10	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-24 17:53:56	Yoshi2_	yeah
2015-01-24 17:54:11	Yoshi2_	you are basically implementing a software that manages elevators
2015-01-24 17:55:06	Prezintenden	i wrote a program once that calculated a cross sum
2015-01-24 17:55:29	Prezintenden	i think that was about it. everything after that i needed for classes i stole off the internet
2015-01-24 17:57:58	Yoshi2_	were your tasks so simple that they could be googled?
2015-01-24 18:00:47	Prezintenden	yes
2015-01-24 18:01:37	Prezintenden	maybe not the last few, i had enough points by then
2015-01-24 18:02:18	Prezintenden	i can't shake the feeling i dont quite fit in here
2015-01-24 18:04:28	Yoshi2_	in our exams we have to write code on paper
2015-01-24 18:06:32	Prezintenden	well it was the first semester and a rather straightforward course that non-it students could take as well for credits. it wasnt all that advanced
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2015-01-24 18:07:06	Prezintenden	though i still managed to do rather horrible. god knows why i thought that was a good idea
2015-01-24 18:07:30	Yoshi2	it is suprisingly difficult to write a lot of code in a short time 
2015-01-24 18:07:33	Prezintenden	hubris i suppose. high school really doesnt prepare you for university
2015-01-24 18:07:42	@Espyo	so glad I played almost all of these http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/234960/If_you_had_to_pick_one_game_for_aspiring_devs_to_study_what_would_it_be.php
2015-01-24 18:08:58	Prezintenden	i have never even heard of  FreeSpace 2
2015-01-24 18:09:18	Yoshi2	I have yet to finish super metroid
2015-01-24 18:09:19	@Espyo	...3 minutes and 54 seconds to recompile
2015-01-24 18:09:20	Prezintenden	and i acutally looks like agame i would play. huh
2015-01-24 18:09:22	@Espyo	thanks visual studio
2015-01-24 18:09:30	@Espyo	meanwhile, at work, I can get a clean compile in a minute
2015-01-24 18:09:35	@Espyo	well, at work, it's an eight-core machine
2015-01-24 18:09:38	@Espyo	a four-core here
2015-01-24 18:09:40	@Espyo	but still
2015-01-24 18:11:35	Yoshi2	my python projects start running in a few seconds
2015-01-24 18:11:39	Prezintenden	what in gods name is this wiiu front-flap design
2015-01-24 18:11:56	Yoshi2	but they probably  aren't as complicated as an engine
2015-01-24 18:12:56	Yoshi2	my irc bot that I wrote a lot of plugins for does take a good 10 or 20 seconds until it joins the channel and responds to commands
2015-01-24 18:21:51	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Luck Wafer by GoldenTriforce (+80 Added a sentence from the merge page.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Luck_Wafer&curid=1053&diff=144218&oldid=137323
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2015-01-24 18:27:01	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User:GoldenTriforce by GoldenTriforce (-1 m) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:GoldenTriforce&curid=17812&diff=144219&oldid=142823
2015-01-24 18:27:02	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] User:GoldenTriforce by GoldenTriforce (-32 /* Hi I make youtube videos or something: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0OhE...) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:GoldenTriforce&curid=17812&diff=144220&oldid=144219
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2015-01-24 18:46:31	@PikFan	15
2015-01-24 18:46:49	@PikFan	I'm 15 now :D
2015-01-24 18:48:09	Yoshi2	woohoo!
2015-01-24 18:48:49	@PikFan	now I need to study my driver's manual to get my learner's permit
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2015-01-24 18:52:50	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-24 18:52:56	@Espyo	happy birthday (probably late)
2015-01-24 18:53:04	@Espyo	you're gonna get my driver's license before I do :|
2015-01-24 18:53:11	@PikFan	heh
2015-01-24 18:53:41	@PikFan	well, I still have to have 100 hours of experience behind the wheel
2015-01-24 18:53:48	@PikFan	plus I have to be 16
2015-01-24 18:54:30	@PikFan	no worries, you're only late by 19 hours
2015-01-24 18:54:31	Yoshi2	Espyo: you don't have a driver's license (yet)?
2015-01-24 18:54:38	@Espyo	not yet
2015-01-24 18:54:44	@Espyo	planning on getting it in a month
2015-01-24 18:54:58	@Espyo	oh, 16's the age
2015-01-24 18:55:00	@Espyo	all right
2015-01-24 18:55:08	Yoshi2	I wish I did mine while I was still in school
2015-01-24 18:55:42	Yoshi2	don't have a lot of time to spare with all the homework and exams
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2015-01-24 18:56:26	@J	the thought of 16-year-olds driving scares me
2015-01-24 18:56:38	@J	the 17 limit here is too low, IMO
2015-01-24 18:56:47	Yoshi2	though I also don't feel like I HAVE to get one asap
2015-01-24 18:57:02	@PikFan	J: yeah...
2015-01-24 18:57:13	Yoshi2	while I'm still studying, I definitely don't need it
2015-01-24 18:57:33	@PikFan	also hi
2015-01-24 18:57:38	@J	hey
2015-01-24 18:57:40	Yoshi2	the traffic around the university is pretty much havoc in the morning and evening
2015-01-24 18:57:58	@PikFan	brb
2015-01-24 19:02:03	@PikFan	back
2015-01-24 19:04:52	@PikFan	ooh, so who's heard of Microsoft HoloLens?
2015-01-24 19:05:12	@Espyo	some weird thing
2015-01-24 19:05:15	@Espyo	don't know much about it
2015-01-24 19:06:03	@PikFan	it's a headset being developed by Microsoft to be released sometime during Windows 10's lifetime
2015-01-24 19:06:27	@Espyo	like the Occulus Rift, is it?
2015-01-24 19:06:40	@PikFan	the visor will create images that appear to blend in with the physical world, giving the impression of holograms
2015-01-24 19:06:47	@PikFan	kind of, yes
2015-01-24 19:07:05	@Espyo	hmm...
2015-01-24 19:07:17	@PikFan	but the Oculus Rift is virtual reality, whereas HoloLens is augmented reality
2015-01-24 19:07:22	@Espyo	right
2015-01-24 19:07:49	@Espyo	it'll probably be as epic as the Kinect
2015-01-24 19:07:51	@Espyo	meaning not at all
2015-01-24 19:07:55	@PikFan	anyway, HoloLens is controlled by voice commands, gestures, and gaze
2015-01-24 19:08:14	@PikFan	yeah, people are worried about that
2015-01-24 19:08:33	@PikFan	they think it'll be a flop
2015-01-24 19:09:40	@PikFan	it's a very interesting idea
2015-01-24 19:10:58	@PikFan	when it was unveiled, it was demonstrated, too
2015-01-24 19:11:08	Yoshi2	I'm fine with whichever technology brings me the least amount of advertising in my face
2015-01-24 19:11:37	@PikFan	this person created a quadcopter using one of its apps, then 3D printed it
2015-01-24 19:11:54	@PikFan	they even made it fly
2015-01-24 19:12:52	Yoshi2	I don't think you can 3D print a functional quadcopter
2015-01-24 19:13:03	Yoshi2	but you could 3D print the parts and then assemble it
2015-01-24 19:13:55	@PikFan	prior to the demo they 3D printed it
2015-01-24 19:14:12	@PikFan	then they probably added some wires and whatnot
2015-01-24 19:21:24	@Espyo	ugh... here come the multithreading headaches
2015-01-24 19:21:33	@Espyo	I want the engine to show a loading screen, while loading stuff in another thread
2015-01-24 19:21:45	@Espyo	except a "window" can only "belong" to one thread at a time
2015-01-24 19:21:55	@Espyo	so I can't draw the loading screen on the window at the same time I load bitmaps
2015-01-24 19:22:03	@Espyo	this is because the bitmaps need to be tied to a "window"
2015-01-24 19:22:36	@Espyo	I've tried convoluted things, but nothing really worked
2015-01-24 19:22:40	@Espyo	I hope the Allegro forums can help...
2015-01-24 19:22:42	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Lesser Spotted Jellyfloat by GoldenTriforce (+61 m Added Japanese name from Pikmin Wikia page) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Lesser_Spotted_Jellyfloat&curid=1054&diff=144221&oldid=142201
2015-01-24 19:23:52	@PikFan	have fun with that
2015-01-24 19:23:58	@PikFan	going now, bye
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2015-01-24 19:44:15	@Espyo	well that was fast
2015-01-24 19:44:32	@Espyo	someone said I had to convert the memory bitmaps into video bitmaps after the loading is done
2015-01-24 19:44:34	@Espyo	which sucks
2015-01-24 19:44:50	@Espyo	it's probably slow
2015-01-24 19:56:23	Yoshi2	what is the difference between memory and video bitmaps?
2015-01-24 19:56:25	@J	alternatively, just do it in one thread and update the screen between each operation
2015-01-24 19:56:32	@J	people won't even notice
2015-01-24 19:57:06	@J	not sure what interfaces Allegro provides for loading stuff, but you should only need 1 thread since it's IO-bound anyway
2015-01-24 19:57:17	@J	just select() after each frame
2015-01-24 19:58:02	@J	Yoshi2: video ones will just be stored in the memory owned by the GPU
2015-01-24 19:58:17	@J	which is where they need to be to draw them
2015-01-24 20:03:30	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Minor characters by E (+1) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Minor_characters&curid=15715&diff=144223&oldid=143742
2015-01-24 20:04:07	@Espyo	yeah, but no doubt it'd be harder to implement
2015-01-24 20:10:03	@J	I would say the first way would be easier than multi-threaded
2015-01-24 20:10:10	@J	just load one file between each frame
2015-01-24 20:10:15	@J	potentially worse, though
2015-01-24 20:10:23	@J	the second way is the ideal way, and yeah, harder
2015-01-24 20:12:53	@Espyo	I'd have to atomize the loading procedure to hell and back
2015-01-24 20:13:02	@Espyo	an image can take milliseconds to load, or seconds
2015-01-24 20:13:13	@Espyo	well, I don't think I have any second-long image loading
2015-01-24 20:13:17	@Espyo	but still, more than a frame, for sure
2015-01-24 20:13:26	@Espyo	plus I'd have to do something of the sort for text files, sound files, etc.
2015-01-24 20:13:35	@Espyo	threads aren't complicated per se
2015-01-24 20:13:40	@Espyo	it's their darn niches that are
2015-01-24 20:17:26	@J	but what are you showing on your loading screen?
2015-01-24 20:17:31	@J	does it have to run at 60FPS?
2015-01-24 20:18:04	@J	it would be faster too, avoiding the copy to video memory later
2015-01-24 20:21:29	@Espyo	I was thinking of keeping track of the loading progress
2015-01-24 20:21:38	@Espyo	that doesn't stop anything
2015-01-24 20:21:42	@Espyo	never mind that
2015-01-24 20:21:53	@J	yeah, loading bars don't have to be super-smooth
2015-01-24 20:21:55	@Espyo	anyway, like in the Pikmin games, just the name of the area, and some weird effect with the name, under it
2015-01-24 20:22:38	@Espyo	but either way, if I do it single-thread, I'll have to have some harness to everything I load
2015-01-24 20:22:41	@Espyo	like a loadable_item class
2015-01-24 20:22:57	@Espyo	and then somewhere have a way to have a full list of the things I will load, before I load them
2015-01-24 20:23:04	@J	although TBH, I expect your loading times will be tiny
2015-01-24 20:23:05	@Espyo	and find a way to store them, instead of being loose wherever
2015-01-24 20:23:09	@Espyo	pfft
2015-01-24 20:23:11	@Espyo	they're already not-tiny
2015-01-24 20:23:14	@J	how
2015-01-24 20:23:28	@Espyo	I WANTED to make them faster by parallelizing, but at this rate, it's not happening, with all these shenanigans
2015-01-24 20:23:34	@Espyo	Allegro is pretty slow at loading bitmaps and sounds
2015-01-24 20:23:52	@J	meh, IO will be the bottleneck anyway, so parallelisation is pointless
2015-01-24 20:24:14	@Espyo	you can try any version you have lying around, it'll probably take over 5 seconds to load
2015-01-24 20:24:16	@Espyo	hmm, right
2015-01-24 20:24:22	@J	really?
2015-01-24 20:24:27	@Espyo	it has to
2015-01-24 20:24:30	@Espyo	it's so at work, too
2015-01-24 20:24:35	@J	I'll try
2015-01-24 20:24:38	@Espyo	I'm not sure if my machine at work's better than yours, but
2015-01-24 20:24:47	@Espyo	well, loading is more than just fetching stuff from disk
2015-01-24 20:24:50	@Espyo	I parse some of my files
2015-01-24 20:25:00	@Espyo	and generating the area is a massive task, with only a tiny bit being disk loading
2015-01-24 20:25:05	@Espyo	so there's still room for parallelization yet
2015-01-24 20:25:20	@J	doesn't help that GitHub is giving me 30KiB/s
2015-01-24 20:25:24	@Espyo	I already wrote classes and functions to handle parallelization, so now it's only a matter of the user having multi-core
2015-01-24 20:25:28	@Espyo	and the code actually working
2015-01-24 20:25:41	@Espyo	hm, weird
2015-01-24 20:26:57	@J	I can't really see any of that stuff being CPU-bound, but hey, if it works
2015-01-24 20:28:58	@J	so close to compiling
2015-01-24 20:29:08	@J	missing make_pair in functions.h
2015-01-24 20:29:14	@Espyo	...
2015-01-24 20:29:17	@Espyo	#include...
2015-01-24 20:29:19	@Espyo	uh...
2015-01-24 20:29:22	@Espyo	#include <pair>?
2015-01-24 20:29:27	@Espyo	stdlib?
2015-01-24 20:29:29	@J	candidate function [with _T1 = unsigned long, _T2 = std::basic_string<char>] not viable: 1st argument
2015-01-24 20:29:29	@J	      ('const size_t' (aka 'const unsigned long')) would lose const qualifier
2015-01-24 20:29:29	Testyo	1 st = 6.3503 kg / 14 lb / 224 oz
2015-01-24 20:29:31	@Espyo	ugh
2015-01-24 20:30:06	@Espyo	#include <utility>
2015-01-24 20:30:34	@J	didn't help
2015-01-24 20:30:43	@Espyo	add std:: before make_pair
2015-01-24 20:30:59	@Espyo	strange, I pulled and compiled at work around a week ago
2015-01-24 20:31:01	@Espyo	it was fine
2015-01-24 20:31:16	@J	http://sprunge.us/PVbC
2015-01-24 20:32:11	@Espyo	this again?!
2015-01-24 20:32:14	@Espyo	ugh, I already fixed it
2015-01-24 20:32:17	@Espyo	can't remember how
2015-01-24 20:32:20	@Espyo	let's see how my code is
2015-01-24 20:33:28	@Espyo	oh, I remember
2015-01-24 20:33:50	@Espyo	s/make_pair<size_t, string>\(/make_pair\(
2015-01-24 20:34:11	@J	...sure
2015-01-24 20:34:29	@J	first run, so it's going to be cold, < 1s
2015-01-24 20:35:01	@J	anything I can do to make it slower?
2015-01-24 20:35:42	@Espyo	not... really
2015-01-24 20:36:07	@Espyo	wait, did you measure the first run yet or not?
2015-01-24 20:36:12	@Espyo	because your message is lost in time
2015-01-24 20:36:42	@J	what?
2015-01-24 20:36:46	@J	[20:34:29] @J first run, so it's going to be cold, < 1s
2015-01-24 20:38:03	@Espyo	you already know that it's going to be < 1s?
2015-01-24 20:38:16	@J	I did it
2015-01-24 20:38:25	@J	that was the result
2015-01-24 20:38:26	@Espyo	so it isn't "it's going to be", but "it was"
2015-01-24 20:38:33	@J	uh, hmm
2015-01-24 20:38:40	@J	that's not really the future tense
2015-01-24 20:38:52	@Espyo	hmmmmmm... okay
2015-01-24 20:38:52	@J	not sure what it's technically called
2015-01-24 20:38:56	@Espyo	anyway, your computer can't be real
2015-01-24 20:39:31	@Espyo	the time from start to the actual area, leaders, etc. appearing, right?
2015-01-24 20:40:46	@J	wait, if I drop all disk cache then try again, it's about 5 seconds
2015-01-24 20:40:58	@J	but doing that also makes Vim take about 3 seconds to load, so...
2015-01-24 20:41:09	@J	it's unloading all the shared libraries that _everything_ uses
2015-01-24 20:41:17	@J	windowing, drawing, all of that
2015-01-24 20:42:04	@J	it even makes 'ls' take 1.5s
2015-01-24 20:43:07	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-24 20:43:12	@Espyo	woah, crazy
2015-01-24 20:43:30	@J	with a warm run, actually using 'time', I can run it, see the in-game cursor spinning, then close it within 0.8s
2015-01-24 20:43:40	@Espyo	I mean, not like loading time should be the #1 concern, but...
2015-01-24 20:43:48	@Espyo	let me try here, warm
2015-01-24 20:43:50	@J	correction, 0.6
2015-01-24 20:44:01	@Espyo	uh, I have changes made to the code
2015-01-24 20:44:04	@Espyo	and no older version
2015-01-24 20:44:06	@J	if I take out reaction time by anticipating the load time
2015-01-24 20:44:07	@Espyo	scratch that
2015-01-24 20:44:17	@Espyo	well, warm boot takes about a second
2015-01-24 20:44:23	@Espyo	...I don't know, then
2015-01-24 20:44:29	@Espyo	might be debug vs release build
2015-01-24 20:44:42	@J	TBH, I've never seen Windows even create a window in less than a second, so...
2015-01-24 20:44:47	@Espyo	true
2015-01-24 20:45:01	@Espyo	anyway, I'll still need a loading screen of sorts, that's for sure
2015-01-24 20:45:10	@Espyo	there's this thing I thought I could do
2015-01-24 20:45:23	@Espyo	keep the window as the "current" bitmap for the loader thread
2015-01-24 20:45:34	@Espyo	and when I need to refresh the screen, temporarily take control
2015-01-24 20:45:36	@Espyo	but it didn't work
2015-01-24 20:45:45	@Espyo	the guy on the forum thread did say it wasn't meant to
2015-01-24 20:45:50	@Espyo	can't really understand why, but *shrug*
2015-01-24 20:46:01	@Espyo	anyway, I'll try loading all as memory bitmaps, then converting
2015-01-24 20:46:09	@Espyo	except I'll have to keep a list of pointers of pointers to bitmaps
2015-01-24 20:46:13	@Espyo	ugh... incoming headaches
2015-01-24 20:46:29	@J	anyway, you still have that really annoying problem where you have to release a direction key before starting moving in the other direction
2015-01-24 20:46:39	@J	since you stop moving whenever you release a direction key
2015-01-24 20:47:03	@Espyo	fixed in my code already
2015-01-24 20:47:08	@J	great
2015-01-24 20:47:16	@Espyo	I mustn't've committed it
2015-01-24 20:47:22	@Espyo	it was really easy, and this works for everything
2015-01-24 20:47:26	@Espyo	even the C-stick group moving
2015-01-24 20:48:18	Yoshi2	"mustn't've"
2015-01-24 20:48:39	Yoshi2	that was a bit painful to read
2015-01-24 20:48:49	@J	yeah, it's really easy
2015-01-24 20:48:53	@Espyo	love typing it
2015-01-24 20:49:20	@J	the only thing is you need to store the state for each button, not just a number which is 'positive - negative' or something
2015-01-24 20:49:29	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-24 20:49:34	@J	...and I should really eat
2015-01-24 20:49:42	@Espyo	probably should
2015-01-24 20:49:47	Yoshi2	I don't think "mustn't" is the word you are looking for, because "I mustn't do something" means something like "I am not allowed to do something"
2015-01-24 20:50:08	@Espyo	I must not have committed it
2015-01-24 20:50:12	@J	it does work
2015-01-24 20:50:13	@Espyo	just means I probably didn't
2015-01-24 20:50:19	@Espyo	doesn't necessarily mean "I can't have"
2015-01-24 20:50:26	@J	'must' has a few subtly different meanings, really
2015-01-24 20:50:29	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-24 20:50:33	@Espyo	...come to think of it...
2015-01-24 20:50:40	@Espyo	can = possibility
2015-01-24 20:50:43	@Espyo	can't = impossibility
2015-01-24 20:50:49	@Espyo	must = mandatory
2015-01-24 20:50:58	@Espyo	must not = not mandatory
2015-01-24 20:51:11	@Espyo	wait, that didn't come out with the point I wanted
2015-01-24 20:51:14	Yoshi2	mandatory to not do something
2015-01-24 20:51:16	@J	...
2015-01-24 20:51:27	@Espyo	can = not mandatory yes
2015-01-24 20:51:32	@Espyo	can't = mandatory no
2015-01-24 20:51:35	@Espyo	must = mandatory yes
2015-01-24 20:51:41	@Espyo	mustn't = not mandatory no
2015-01-24 20:51:59	@Espyo	if... mustn't is used in the context I used above
2015-01-24 20:52:00	@Espyo	eesh, words
2015-01-24 20:52:32	@J	but 'I can't have committed it' - same thing
2015-01-24 20:52:47	@Espyo	hm, yeah
2015-01-24 20:53:17	Yoshi2	"I probably haven't comitted it yet"
2015-01-24 20:56:15	Yoshi2	it can be confusing in German because one could easily think "muss" -> "must", and "muss nicht" -> "must not"
2015-01-24 20:57:18	Yoshi2	but "musst nicht" means something like "don't have to do something", while "must not" means "not allowed to do something"
2015-01-24 20:57:45	@Espyo	what a mess
2015-01-24 20:58:29	Yoshi2	in school I saw the term "false friends" in connection with such words
2015-01-24 20:59:24	Yoshi2	another word is "bekommen", which you could accidently translate with "become" because they sound similar
2015-01-24 21:00:45	Yoshi2	though "bekommen" means something like "get/receive something"
2015-01-24 21:00:46	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-24 21:00:50	@Espyo	yeah, false friends is what they are
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2015-01-24 22:33:07	Testyo	...so it's a here's the thing
2015-01-24 22:37:15	@J	mhm
2015-01-24 22:56:12	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Thirsty Desert Remix by AeroBlaze777 (+2470) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Thirsty_Desert_Remix&curid=15746&diff=144224&oldid=143050
2015-01-24 22:56:12	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Thirsty Desert Remix by AeroBlaze777 (0 m /* Terrain */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Thirsty_Desert_Remix&curid=15746&diff=144225&oldid=144224
2015-01-24 23:01:14	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Nectar Egg by AeroBlaze777 (+575 m /* Contents */ Adding what I know of the eggs in P3.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Nectar_Egg&curid=636&diff=144226&oldid=141137
2015-01-24 23:06:18	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Nectar Egg by AeroBlaze777 (+79 m /* Gallery */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Nectar_Egg&curid=636&diff=144227&oldid=144226
2015-01-24 23:11:32	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pyroclasmic Slooch by AeroBlaze777 (+116 /* Trivia */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pyroclasmic_Slooch&curid=9307&diff=144228&oldid=143166
2015-01-24 23:16:34	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pyroclasmic Slooch by AeroBlaze777 (+68 m /* Trivia */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pyroclasmic_Slooch&curid=9307&diff=144229&oldid=144228
2015-01-24 23:31:38	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Real-world and game ... by Ellison (+239) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Real-world_and_game_references&curid=4382&diff=144230&oldid=42717
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2015-01-25 12:12:37	Testyo	Afternoon everyone!
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2015-01-25 12:28:28	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-01-25 12:28:29	Testyo	http://lohas.nicoseiga.jp/thumb/2369712i there was a nasty netsplit
2015-01-25 12:35:18	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-25 12:35:59	Yoshi2	I wonder what that picture is supposed to be
2015-01-25 12:40:28	@Espyo	Waterwraith
2015-01-25 12:40:34	@Espyo	or a nasty netsplit
2015-01-25 12:43:07	Yoshi2	Testyo: lm
2015-01-25 12:43:08	Testyo	I said http://lohas.nicoseiga.jp/thumb/2369712i there was a nasty netsplit because Yoshi2 mentioned my name. This random message came from the messages but anyway, yeah, there was a nasty netsplit and http://lohas.nicoseiga.jp/thumb/2369712i there is so much wrong in this image. They were joined by the common word there.
2015-01-25 12:45:59	Yoshi2	there is definitely quite a bit wrong with that picture, but it could've been worse
2015-01-25 12:47:09	@Espyo	a LOT worse
2015-01-25 12:48:20	Yoshi2	indeed
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2015-01-25 14:20:53	Shard1	Hello everyone
2015-01-25 14:21:02	Yoshi2	good day
2015-01-25 14:21:54	Shard1	So, how's it been going?
2015-01-25 14:23:55	Shard1	Does anybody know what instrument plays in the beginning of the Garden of Hope music?
2015-01-25 14:27:45	Shard1	It sounds a lot like a banjo
2015-01-25 14:32:43	Yoshi2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKj0pCvOs8o
2015-01-25 14:32:46	Yoshi2	you might be right
2015-01-25 14:34:24	Shard1	So, did you hear about Club Nintendo being discontinued?
2015-01-25 14:35:38	Yoshi2	yup
2015-01-25 14:35:57	Yoshi2	no idea what I am going to do with all those codes I've collected so far
2015-01-25 14:36:26	Shard1	Yeah, until they put up something GOOD. 
2015-01-25 14:37:10	Yoshi2	I'll probably just give them away 
2015-01-25 14:38:09	@Espyo	hey
2015-01-25 14:39:12	Shard1	hey
2015-01-25 14:41:49	Shard1	Check this out. Although you might have seen it already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gwOhM2M30o
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2015-01-25 14:42:59	Mns2002	Just to let you know Espyo,the featured image does not match the description.
2015-01-25 14:43:28	@Espyo	...crap
2015-01-25 14:43:52	@Espyo	it does for me
2015-01-25 14:44:03	Shard1	Yeah, me too.
2015-01-25 14:44:04	@Espyo	it's a Peckish Aristocrab eating Pikmin
2015-01-25 14:44:11	@Espyo	and the description matches
2015-01-25 14:44:16	Shard1	yup
2015-01-25 14:44:34	Mns2002	Oh for me it's the Pikmin short movies logo
2015-01-25 14:44:42	Mns2002	I'll check again though
2015-01-25 14:44:43	@Espyo	uh... weird
2015-01-25 14:44:47	@Espyo	do ctrl+f5
2015-01-25 14:44:52	Mns2002	K
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2015-01-25 14:46:08	Mns2002	Didn't do anything 
2015-01-25 14:46:26	Mns2002	Mabye it's because I'm using a mobile device
2015-01-25 14:46:35	@Espyo	hm, it shouldn't matter
2015-01-25 14:46:36	@Espyo	how weird
2015-01-25 14:46:44	Mns2002	Oh well,it's just a minor issue
2015-01-25 14:46:48	Mns2002	Bye
2015-01-25 14:46:51	@Espyo	bye
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2015-01-25 14:47:13	@Espyo	...how did he do ctrl+f5 on a mobile?
2015-01-25 14:47:25	Shard1	That's what I'm thinking.
2015-01-25 14:50:05	Yoshi2	does mibbit support phones?
2015-01-25 14:50:20	Shard1	I have no idea.
2015-01-25 14:50:26	@Espyo	I think it does
2015-01-25 14:52:00	Shard1	Yup it does
2015-01-25 14:54:24	Yoshi2	Espyo: I'm also quite suprised how you knew what that person was talking about
2015-01-25 14:54:49	@Espyo	well, there's only one featured image
2015-01-25 14:54:57	Shard1	Yeah
2015-01-25 14:57:28	Yoshi2	oh
2015-01-25 14:57:31	Yoshi2	right
2015-01-25 14:58:02	Yoshi2	the featured article is the one on the front page of the wiki
2015-01-25 14:58:02	Shard1	Does anybody else have the Pikmin 3 DLC?
2015-01-25 14:58:08	Yoshi2	nope
2015-01-25 14:58:20	@Espyo	not yet I don't
2015-01-25 14:58:51	Shard1	I think that Nintendo should make the remakes of Pikmin 1 and 2 for virtual console
2015-01-25 14:59:15	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Yellow Wollywog by Mns2002 (+868) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Yellow_Wollywog&curid=1748&diff=144234&oldid=142263
2015-01-25 14:59:16	Yoshi2	what bothers me more about the featured article is that it doesn't include the title of the article
2015-01-25 14:59:26	@Espyo	hm, good ideas
2015-01-25 14:59:29	@Espyo	*good idea
2015-01-25 14:59:44	Shard1	Well, I REALLY want to play those games
2015-01-25 15:00:17	@Espyo	you can always play either the GameCube games or the Wii ones
2015-01-25 15:00:37	Shard1	Which are extremely hard to get these days.
2015-01-25 15:01:16	@Espyo	yeah...
2015-01-25 15:01:34	Yoshi2	I lost my gamecube's memory card 
2015-01-25 15:01:50	Shard1	It's not that I don't want to buy them, but I'm not willing to pay $60 for Pikmin 2
2015-01-25 15:01:50	Testyo	$ 60 = 44.232 € / £ 37.83 
2015-01-25 15:02:02	Shard1	Well, that was handy.
2015-01-25 15:03:27	@Espyo	why do I even bother trying to use correct CSS to center text
2015-01-25 15:03:28	@Espyo	WHY
2015-01-25 15:03:36	@Espyo	I'm always like "I should use CSS instead of <center>"
2015-01-25 15:03:40	@Espyo	but in the end I ALWAYS use center
2015-01-25 15:03:42	@Espyo	because nothing EVER works
2015-01-25 15:03:54	Shard1	?
2015-01-25 15:04:06	@Espyo	web page style shenanigans
2015-01-25 15:04:15	@Espyo	I'm gonna add the title of the featured article to the featured article box
2015-01-25 15:04:17	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Yellow Wollywog by Mns2002 (+1122) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Yellow_Wollywog&curid=1748&diff=144236&oldid=144234
2015-01-25 15:04:19	@Espyo	and I want the title to be centered
2015-01-25 15:04:22	@Espyo	except stuff breaks
2015-01-25 15:05:06	Shard1	Oh.
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2015-01-25 15:05:41	Shard1	Yeah, that's the thing with me. I want to help but I just can't figure out how to do stuff.
2015-01-25 15:05:55	@Espyo	heh, it's ok
2015-01-25 15:06:01	@Espyo	this isn't normal wiki editor stuff
2015-01-25 15:06:04	@Espyo	don't sweat it
2015-01-25 15:06:06	Shard1	Nice, you got the title up
2015-01-25 15:06:07	@J	I think you'd need
2015-01-25 15:06:11	@Espyo	this is very backend, very technical
2015-01-25 15:06:17	@Espyo	yeah, I got it up, but it looks horrible
2015-01-25 15:06:19	@Espyo	gonna try other things
2015-01-25 15:06:21	@J	<p style="text-align: center;">[[File:...]]</p>
2015-01-25 15:06:21	Testyo	"File:..." article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:...
2015-01-25 15:06:28	@J	in real HTML, anyway
2015-01-25 15:06:30	@J	thanks Testyo
2015-01-25 15:06:31	Testyo	i see in the game files is by string
2015-01-25 15:06:37	@Espyo	I don't want to center the image, though
2015-01-25 15:06:42	Mns2002	Just to tell you,it's not a big deal (probuly because Im using a mobile device) the NIWA logo is replaced by a pikmin adventure logo
2015-01-25 15:06:43	@J	oh
2015-01-25 15:06:45	@Espyo	just the text with the title of the article
2015-01-25 15:06:50	@J	you said title
2015-01-25 15:06:56	@Espyo	what a mess, Mns2002
2015-01-25 15:07:00	@Espyo	I'll try using my tablet to check
2015-01-25 15:07:03	@Espyo	and try to fix the issues
2015-01-25 15:07:05	Mns2002	K
2015-01-25 15:07:05	@Espyo	thanks for the heads-up
2015-01-25 15:07:10	Mns2002	Welcome
2015-01-25 15:07:20	@J	maybe Porple set up some mobile-specific caching
2015-01-25 15:07:22	Mns2002	Also I merged the wollywog page
2015-01-25 15:07:33	@Espyo	ah yes
2015-01-25 15:07:34	@Espyo	good job
2015-01-25 15:07:39	Mns2002	Thx
2015-01-25 15:07:40	@J	it's worth asking if that's what it's looking like
2015-01-25 15:07:52	Shard1	Anyway I can help?
2015-01-25 15:08:03	@Espyo	[[Pikipedia:Helping out]]
2015-01-25 15:08:04	Testyo	"Pikipedia:Helping_out" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikipedia:Helping_out
2015-01-25 15:08:08	Shard1	Thanks
2015-01-25 15:08:09	@Espyo	there are always things to do
2015-01-25 15:08:22	@J	so obviously the actual HTML would be <h3 style="text-align: center;">title</h3>
2015-01-25 15:08:34	@Espyo	tried, didn't work
2015-01-25 15:08:36	@J	and MW probably allows that
2015-01-25 15:08:38	@J	but
2015-01-25 15:08:40	@Espyo	well, didn't try h3, but tried span
2015-01-25 15:08:47	@J	with == still?
2015-01-25 15:09:02	@Espyo	without
2015-01-25 15:09:06	@Espyo	I'm trying just == now
2015-01-25 15:09:20	Mns2002	Bye gotta go
2015-01-25 15:09:26	@Espyo	bye
2015-01-25 15:09:28	@Espyo	http://www.pikminwiki.com/Main_Page this is h2
2015-01-25 15:09:32	Mns2002	:)
2015-01-25 15:09:32	@Espyo	h3 probably looks better
2015-01-25 15:09:55	Shard1	The title looks really good now
2015-01-25 15:09:59	@J	hey, what happened to the edit buttons on main page boxes?
2015-01-25 15:10:02	@Espyo	yeah, h3 looks good, I think
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2015-01-25 15:10:07	@Espyo	I removed them
2015-01-25 15:10:10	@Espyo	interface overload
2015-01-25 15:10:19	@Espyo	plus, if you think about it
2015-01-25 15:10:20	@J	silly Espyo
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2015-01-25 15:10:28	@Espyo	it's kinda dumb to have links to edit the content on the main page
2015-01-25 15:10:31	@Espyo	...when the main page is locked for editing
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2015-01-25 15:11:02	@J	meh, just gives the wrong impression, IMO
2015-01-25 15:11:27	@J	<h3 style="text-align: center;">Carrying</h3> does work
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2015-01-25 15:11:33	@J	but no-one wants to see that
2015-01-25 15:12:43	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-25 15:13:44	Shard1	Wait a minute, these voyage logs aren't complete
2015-01-25 15:13:57	@J	<div style="">\n===title===\n</div> works, probably just as bad though
2015-01-25 15:14:18	@Espyo	which?
2015-01-25 15:14:28	@Espyo	very probably just as bad
2015-01-25 15:14:31	Shard1	The "Let;s do this!" one
2015-01-25 15:14:45	@Espyo	wait, Pikmin 3?
2015-01-25 15:14:50	Shard1	I have an image in a miiverse post of mine
2015-01-25 15:14:53	Shard1	And yes
2015-01-25 15:15:04	@Espyo	yeah, we're still missing a lot of Pikmin 3 ones
2015-01-25 15:15:09	@Espyo	we can and probably will use the game files, though
2015-01-25 15:15:13	@Espyo	so no need to write by hand
2015-01-25 15:16:58	Shard1	There: https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzSuMZNMRHn5jPj 
2015-01-25 15:17:26	@Espyo	there's also the thing about the voyage logs in the European version being different from the American version
2015-01-25 15:17:28	@Espyo	so...
2015-01-25 15:17:34	@Espyo	it's just a mess, we'll all clean that up later with the files
2015-01-25 15:17:38	Shard1	Yeah, that's a lot of work
2015-01-25 15:18:03	Yoshi2	and each language in the European version has different logs
2015-01-25 15:18:19	Shard1	OH GOSH, that IS a lot
2015-01-25 15:18:24	@Espyo	mhm...
2015-01-25 15:19:58	Shard1	For some reason, I think that it would be cool in Pikmin 4 if something hit the ship while you were in space and you had to go through a skydiving sequence in order to get down to PNF-404
2015-01-25 15:21:14	@Espyo	lol
2015-01-25 15:21:17	@Espyo	like Skyward Sword?
2015-01-25 15:23:04	Shard1	except BETTER, because the skyward sword skydiving was very limited. Something more like the ones in Lego City: Undercover
2015-01-25 15:33:04	Yoshi2	I think it would become rather boring if it happened too often
2015-01-25 15:34:37	Shard1	Yeahl true
2015-01-25 15:40:00	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 3 by AeroBlaze777 (+12 m /* Early Winged Pikmin */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_3&curid=8429&diff=144242&oldid=144172
2015-01-25 15:40:00	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 3 by AeroBlaze777 (0 m) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_3&curid=8429&diff=144243&oldid=144242
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2015-01-25 16:05:41	Yoshi2_	Testyo is so nice
2015-01-25 16:05:41	Testyo	surprisingly, I should play Pikmin 2 soon
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2015-01-25 16:07:32	Testyo	"A sum of money required to be matter
2015-01-25 16:10:23	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 3 by AeroBlaze777 (+3262 /* Tremendous Sniffer without bomb rocks */ Adding 2 more glitches.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_3&curid=8429&diff=144245&oldid=144243
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2015-01-25 17:30:19	Shard1	Hey guys
2015-01-25 17:34:36	Yoshi2_	welcome back
2015-01-25 17:37:34	Shard1	I had some other things to do
2015-01-25 17:38:58	Yoshi2_	you wouldn't believe how many other things I have to do before my exams
2015-01-25 17:39:15	Yoshi2_	but I do a lot of stuff on my computer, so I can just leave irc on
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2015-01-25 19:07:21	@J	wait, so why so many new people in IRC all of a sudden?
2015-01-25 19:12:31	@Espyo	*shrug*
2015-01-25 19:18:37	Testyo	hi network ID
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2015-01-25 20:22:21	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:The President by Ellison (+172) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:The_President&curid=4513&diff=144249&oldid=44413
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2015-01-25 22:37:59	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Spirit by GoldenTriforce (+24 m) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Spirit&curid=1728&diff=144250&oldid=124835
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2015-01-26 18:54:19	Testyo	Good evening everyone!
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2015-01-26 22:17:30	Testyo	starts 500 hmm
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2015-01-26 22:21:11	Shard1	Hey Guys. I'm raging today
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2015-01-27 19:28:34	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-27 19:30:18	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-27 19:30:19	Testyo	...specially because the framerate to get it to load faster (might be placebo)
2015-01-27 19:31:32	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-27 19:32:50	Yoshi2	mhm, changing the framerate probably has no effect on how fast it loads
2015-01-27 19:33:51	@Espyo	but it is placebo
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2015-01-27 20:06:53	Yoshi2	even though I barely print anything in colours, the coloured ink of my printer is almost empty again
2015-01-27 20:08:54	@Espyo	they must have a thing
2015-01-27 20:10:11	Yoshi2	the ink will run out very soon, so I think I should buy a laser printer before that happens
2015-01-27 20:16:53	@Espyo	yeah
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2015-01-27 21:09:15	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Armored Nut by Piktoad (+2 m At the beginning, put "Corpulent Nut" because I think "see Armored Nut" was a mi...) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Armored_Nut&curid=173&diff=144272&oldid=137736
2015-01-27 21:09:52	@Espyo	oops
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2015-01-27 21:51:15	@J	are laser printers not still huge?
2015-01-27 21:51:22	@J	like, washing machine-sized
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2015-01-27 22:14:30	Mariostar	It's been so long...
2015-01-27 22:15:54	UltraMario	IT'S BEEN 3000 YEARS!
2015-01-27 22:17:00	Mariostar	IT'S BEEN OVER 9000!
2015-01-27 22:17:23	Mariostar	Also,l looked up how long 9000 seconds is.
2015-01-27 22:17:39	Mariostar	Just over 150 minutes.
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2015-01-27 22:25:27	@Espyo	which in turn is just over two hours
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2015-01-27 22:28:11	Ultimate	Hi
2015-01-27 22:28:19	Mariostar	Hi,please join pm.
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2015-01-27 22:32:24	Ultimate3	Hi, can you resend that. PM?
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2015-01-27 22:45:48	Testyo	[Fanon RC] Pikmin: Advanced Online by Bulbminlead101 (+1) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Pikmin:_Advanced_Online&curid=9367&diff=47705&oldid=47669
2015-01-27 22:55:56	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Youtubeicon.png uploaded by AeroBlaze777 (An icon to link to Youtube videos, from SmashWiki.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Youtubeicon.png
2015-01-27 23:11:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS... by AeroBlaze777 (+901 /* Music */ Finishing it up.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Super_Smash_Bros._for_3DS_and_Wii_U&curid=9716&diff=144283&oldid=144264
2015-01-27 23:11:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS... by AeroBlaze777 (0 m /* Music */ Typo.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Super_Smash_Bros._for_3DS_and_Wii_U&curid=9716&diff=144284&oldid=144283
2015-01-27 23:11:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
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2015-01-28 15:47:18	Mariostar	Anyone here?
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2015-01-28 15:49:34	Ultimate	Hey!
2015-01-28 15:50:38	Ultimate	Umm...
2015-01-28 15:51:43	Ultimate	Hi?
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2015-01-28 15:57:41	Mariostar	The chat keeps glitching...
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2015-01-28 18:51:44	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2015-01-28 18:52:56	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-28 18:52:57	Testyo	Can you read it did give .szs before
2015-01-28 19:00:31	@Espyo	hi
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2015-01-28 19:34:37	@J	.
2015-01-28 19:37:07	UltraMario	,
2015-01-28 19:37:33	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Template:Infobox treasure by Greenpickle (-1 m documentation typo fix) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_treasure&curid=1827&diff=144343&oldid=144303
2015-01-28 19:37:33	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Template:Infobox treasure by Greenpickle (+1 m wish I had one of those brain things) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_treasure&curid=1827&diff=144344&oldid=144343
2015-01-28 19:37:39	Yoshi2	prolog is pretty cool, too bad the lecture about prolog is almost over
2015-01-28 19:40:10	UltraMario	*prologue
2015-01-28 19:40:48	Yoshi2	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog
2015-01-28 19:41:00	Yoshi2	the programming language does not end with -ue
2015-01-28 19:41:33	UltraMario	oh
2015-01-28 19:41:40	UltraMario	i thought you meant the other kind
2015-01-28 19:41:43	UltraMario	sorry ^^
2015-01-28 19:43:35	@Espyo	oh dear, prolog
2015-01-28 19:43:38	@Espyo	THAT thing
2015-01-28 19:43:42	@Espyo	also hey J and UltraMario
2015-01-28 19:44:07	@Espyo	heh, those infobox edits
2015-01-28 19:44:09	UltraMario	hi
2015-01-28 19:44:13	@Espyo	but in all seriousness, though...
2015-01-28 19:44:16	@Espyo	[[Citrus Lump]]
2015-01-28 19:44:16	Testyo	"Citrus_Lump" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Citrus_Lump
2015-01-28 19:44:21	@Espyo	THAT isn't working, and I can NOT figure out why
2015-01-28 19:44:36	@Espyo	the Citrus Lump fruit infobox should say "(fruit)"
2015-01-28 19:44:40	@Espyo	but for some reason it just doesn't
2015-01-28 19:48:55	Yoshi2	Espyo: somehow not many people are fond of it
2015-01-28 19:49:12	Yoshi2	Prolog, I mean
2015-01-28 19:49:40	@Espyo	probably because they face Prolog like any other programming language
2015-01-28 19:49:41	@Espyo	but it isn't
2015-01-28 19:50:14	Yoshi2	yeah, it is rather special in that aspect
2015-01-28 19:51:49	Yoshi2	but you can do a lot of cool things with it
2015-01-28 19:53:22	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-28 19:53:30	@Espyo	ok, can anybody explain this mistake of nature? http://www.pikminwiki.com/Special:Contributions/173.79.104.123
2015-01-28 19:53:39	@Espyo	half of his contributions are good, even if butchered
2015-01-28 19:53:42	@Espyo	the other half are vandalism
2015-01-28 19:53:44	@Espyo	I don't even
2015-01-28 19:54:21	Yoshi2	if you define the relationship between two things, you can specify one thing and receive all possible values for the other thing that fit the relationship
2015-01-28 19:55:05	Yoshi2	"She is tied with vines and a leaf over her mouth and completely stripped of her space suit."
2015-01-28 19:55:12	Yoshi2	I do not remember that part in Pikmin 3
2015-01-28 19:55:18	@Espyo	only he does
2015-01-28 19:55:26	@Espyo	it's his headcannon
2015-01-28 19:55:30	@Espyo	*canon
2015-01-28 19:57:18	Yoshi2	it sounds like the introduction to a story that is definitely not safe for everyone
2015-01-28 19:58:41	@Espyo	but ALL too common on the internet
2015-01-28 20:02:26	Yoshi2	indeed
2015-01-28 20:02:43	Yoshi2	but less common on wikis that contain facts about the games
2015-01-28 20:02:46	@J	headcannon
2015-01-28 20:03:48	@J	*Brittany is a part of France where they believe eating cats brains makes you invisible.
2015-01-28 20:03:59	UltraMario	dafuq
2015-01-28 20:04:01	UltraMario	lol
2015-01-28 20:04:09	@Espyo	objective facts
2015-01-28 20:04:56	@J	I don't think any of those contributions is intentional vandalism
2015-01-28 20:04:59	@J	which is scary
2015-01-28 20:06:39	Yoshi2	that would be very scary indeed
2015-01-28 20:10:37	@J	 *is
2015-01-28 20:10:42	@J	...random space
2015-01-28 20:11:00	Yoshi2	is it?
2015-01-28 20:12:49	Yoshi2	is there proof that the person really means what they wrote?
2015-01-28 20:15:41	@Espyo	nope
2015-01-28 20:21:05	@J	you know, I'm really getting the hang of making meals that last more than one meal
2015-01-28 20:21:10	@J	two whole times I did it
2015-01-28 20:22:25	Yoshi2	that's several meals per meal
2015-01-28 20:22:44	UltraMario	anyone wanna see some SSB themed sprite recolors I made? :D
2015-01-28 20:23:17	Yoshi2	what sprites did you recolor?
2015-01-28 20:23:44	UltraMario	lucas's mother 3 sprites and ness's earthbound sprites so far
2015-01-28 20:24:03	UltraMario	 http://smashboards.com/threads/ultramarios-mostly-smash-bros-themed-sprite-recolor-gallery.388700/
2015-01-28 20:24:14	UltraMario	the recolors are based off the alts in smash bros.
2015-01-28 20:25:44	UltraMario	how'd I do? :o
2015-01-28 20:25:44	Testyo	UltraMario is a flooder!
2015-01-28 20:25:51	UltraMario	hey. ;_;
2015-01-28 20:25:58	UltraMario	Testyo is a minimodder!
2015-01-28 20:25:59	Testyo	before starting, you have to move the stuff from outputs next to be a prodigy
2015-01-28 20:26:08	Yoshi2	how does it happen that you manage to recolor the sprites, but are too lazy to crop the picture to only show the related sprites? :>
2015-01-28 20:26:14	@Espyo	the canon color swaps needed more references
2015-01-28 20:26:27	@Espyo	a Lucas-themed and a Ninten-themed color palette for Ness would be pretty nice
2015-01-28 20:26:32	UltraMario	agreed
2015-01-28 20:26:41	@Espyo	at least it makes the fans of those characters connect more, even if the characters themselves aren't there
2015-01-28 20:26:48	@Espyo	but come now, we can't expect Sakurai to do that
2015-01-28 20:26:50	@Espyo	because he's a nutjob
2015-01-28 20:26:51	Testyo	Espyo is flooding!
2015-01-28 20:26:51	UltraMario	at least they made a fuel based pallete
2015-01-28 20:26:53	@Espyo	he does what he wants
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2015-01-28 20:26:58	@Espyo	talk shit, get hit, Testyo
2015-01-28 20:27:00	UltraMario	lol
2015-01-28 20:27:11	UltraMario	I'm doing Charizard next when I have time
2015-01-28 20:27:25	UltraMario	Yoshi2: cuz it wore me out and I just didn't feel like it. :p
2015-01-28 20:28:03	Yoshi2	I'm currently overlaying two of the pictures just so I know which sprites you changed
2015-01-28 20:28:12	UltraMario	ok
2015-01-28 20:28:30	UltraMario	I only changed Ness's sprites and Lucas's sprites
2015-01-28 20:28:40	UltraMario	but I did 3 recolors for Ness and only 1 for Lucas
2015-01-28 20:29:05	UltraMario	because it took so long just to do Claus and I didn't want to spend all the time on all of his other recolors. :p
2015-01-28 20:29:19	UltraMario	i only did the 3 basic recolors for ness that appeared in each game
2015-01-28 20:31:48	Yoshi2	some of the other sprites, like the car and some of the monsters, also change appearance in each of the character sheet
2015-01-28 20:40:19	UltraMario	oh
2015-01-28 20:40:32	UltraMario	well that's just because again, I was too lazy to get rid of all the unrelated stuff
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2015-01-28 20:41:55	Testyo	Hey everyone!
2015-01-28 20:49:14	Yoshi2	figured out which parts of the picture you changed in the three charsets: http://i.imgur.com/7hlolT7.png
2015-01-28 20:50:18	Yoshi2	I assume the sprites at the bottom being recoloured is an unlucky (or lucky) side effect of changing the colour of all pixels that have a specific colour
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2015-01-28 22:24:42	@Espyo	so on the forums we discussed some more the loading screen video bitmap shenanigans
2015-01-28 22:25:10	@Espyo	loading stuff on the loading thread makes it a memory bitmap (because the window "belongs" to the main thread, the one that draws the loading animation)
2015-01-28 22:25:18	@Espyo	but turns out that's no problem, because I can just convert later, and it's simple
2015-01-28 22:25:32	@Espyo	...except during the loading, I also create my own bitmaps, the area image buffers
2015-01-28 22:25:36	@Espyo	and those bitmaps get textures drawn on them
2015-01-28 22:25:41	@Espyo	and it's just memory-on-memory action
2015-01-28 22:25:48	@Espyo	which sucks, because video-on-video is better
2015-01-28 22:25:53	@Espyo	so... in short...
2015-01-28 22:25:58	@Espyo	there's no way to do this that won't involve stupid code
2015-01-28 22:26:17	@Espyo	like loading stuff between frames (hello inconsistent framerate)
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2015-01-28 22:52:43	@J	I never bothered with loading screens before, just loaded everything in one frame
2015-01-28 22:52:46	@J	 /best graphics
2015-01-28 22:53:19	@Espyo	hey, decreasing the framerate to 0.3 frames per second doesn't count
2015-01-28 22:54:09	@J	I never noticed
2015-01-28 23:02:07	@J	and now I'm just playing my slime game again
2015-01-28 23:04:13	@Espyo	I thought you'd be
2015-01-28 23:05:47	@J	it's surprisingly fun now I forgot all the solutions
2015-01-28 23:07:07	@Espyo	I bet
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2015-01-28 23:17:34	@Espyo	oh no
2015-01-28 23:17:41	@Espyo	I just realized that because some images are sprite-sheets
2015-01-28 23:17:50	@Espyo	and the graphics I use in-game are sub-bitmaps of those sprite-sheets
2015-01-28 23:18:09	@Espyo	when I convert the memory bitmap sprite-sheets to video, I'll have to recreate them, because that's currently the only way
2015-01-28 23:18:16	@Espyo	...and the sub-bitmaps will start pointing at trash
2015-01-28 23:18:53	@Espyo	all right, screw this
2015-01-28 23:18:57	@Espyo	loading screen is a static image
2015-01-28 23:19:01	@Espyo	I only need to blit it once
2015-01-28 23:19:10	@Espyo	and then I can load everything
2015-01-28 23:25:41	@J	have fun
2015-01-28 23:26:57	@Espyo	this
2015-01-28 23:27:08	@Espyo	this is why git rocks
2015-01-28 23:27:12	@Espyo	I can just revert my changes
2015-01-28 23:27:26	@Espyo	I changed a lot of my code until I stopped and realized my sub-bitmap problem
2015-01-28 23:27:32	@Espyo	so I can just flip everything back
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2015-01-28 23:46:16	Testyo	http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/dumps.tar.xz norm here
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2015-01-28 23:59:33	@Espyo	how in the world is visual studio faster at replacing than it is at finding
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2015-01-29 19:07:51	Testyo	Greetings everyone!
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2015-01-29 19:09:12	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-01-29 19:09:13	Testyo	maybe you'd want the link along with it still happened
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2015-01-29 19:15:12	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-29 19:38:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Rock Pikmin by Piktoad (+166 /* Trivia */  Add the 4 skins trivia.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Rock_Pikmin&curid=7833&diff=144352&oldid=143844
2015-01-29 19:41:25	Yoshi2	well, I should have the new version of my bms converter running soon
2015-01-29 19:42:30	Yoshi2	for the most part, it will only play notes and make pauses, nothing else, because I still need to test if the way I rewrote the program is actually a good way
2015-01-29 19:46:50	@Espyo	sweet
2015-01-29 19:48:14	Yoshi2	I used to write very long commit messages, but I don't feel very inspired when I am just reimplementing things
2015-01-29 19:48:29	Yoshi2	one-liners should do the job
2015-01-29 20:04:20	@Espyo	hehe
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2015-01-29 22:41:11	Testyo	hm, what about *they're
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2015-01-30 19:25:26	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-01-30 19:26:27	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-01-30 19:26:27	Testyo	yeah, keep the for on Region only happen if you're lagging, which I'm not
2015-01-30 19:28:45	@J	hi
2015-01-30 19:29:34	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-30 19:29:46	@Espyo	got a little something to discuss with you, so don't go too far
2015-01-30 19:30:55	@J	oh edar
2015-01-30 19:30:57	@J	*dear
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2015-01-30 19:40:24	@Espyo	heh
2015-01-30 19:40:25	@Espyo	don't worry
2015-01-30 19:40:26	@Espyo	it's not nasty
2015-01-30 19:48:47	@Espyo	okay, so
2015-01-30 19:49:21	@Espyo	one or two months ago I made a JS script that would read the wikitext of a page while editing, and report policy violations, under-optimized stuff, and stupid wikia crap
2015-01-30 19:49:24	@Espyo	I think I might've already said
2015-01-30 19:49:27	@Espyo	anyway, today I was thinking
2015-01-30 19:49:37	@Espyo	we CAN have custom JS on the wiki
2015-01-30 19:49:45	@Espyo	and this thing IS just one tiny button atop the editing window
2015-01-30 19:50:02	@Espyo	and it WILL help people follow through with the policies without having to memorize them, plus all the other optimizations
2015-01-30 19:50:04	@Espyo	so...
2015-01-30 19:50:25	@Espyo	at what point would it be a bad idea to implement that on the wiki?
2015-01-30 19:51:21	Yoshi2_	how can it do optimizations?
2015-01-30 19:51:47	@Espyo	it actually doesn't DO anything to the text, it just warns
2015-01-30 19:53:02	@Espyo	but it can go from warning about <span>s that don't do anything (believe me, at least one in every two pages from wiki have one of those)
2015-01-30 19:53:19	@Espyo	to warning about trailing spaces (also loads, I for the life of me can't understand what the hell is up with that)
2015-01-30 19:57:03	@J	probably only want to highlight changes by the editor
2015-01-30 19:57:14	@J	otherwise you start editing a page, and suddenly it tells you to fix everything
2015-01-30 19:57:23	@J	seems like it could put people off
2015-01-30 19:57:29	@Espyo	right, I thought about that, too
2015-01-30 19:57:36	@Espyo	for me, I'm fine having it warn about everything
2015-01-30 19:57:40	@Espyo	but for the others...
2015-01-30 19:57:47	@Espyo	now, thing is, how can I know exactly what it is the editor changed?
2015-01-30 19:57:51	@J	yeah...
2015-01-30 19:57:56	@Espyo	either way, it's optional
2015-01-30 19:58:03	@Espyo	it lets you save and preview without interference
2015-01-30 19:58:05	@J	opt-in or opt-out?
2015-01-30 19:58:06	@Espyo	it's just a button on the corner
2015-01-30 19:58:08	@J	oh
2015-01-30 19:58:10	@J	wait
2015-01-30 19:58:14	@J	you press the button to show it?
2015-01-30 19:58:18	@Espyo	a button to start the analysis
2015-01-30 19:58:24	@J	mm,  fair enough then
2015-01-30 19:58:42	@Espyo	only the people who want to help with the fine details would use anything like that, anyway
2015-01-30 19:58:43	@J	could be useful
2015-01-30 19:58:58	@Espyo	so if they want to help with the fine details, they can probably help the page as a whole
2015-01-30 19:59:08	@Espyo	it'd be nice for it to monitor every change, but
2015-01-30 19:59:12	@Espyo	it'd probably just be intrusive
2015-01-30 19:59:22	@Espyo	plus us having no idea how to detect editor changes
2015-01-30 19:59:41	@Espyo	but for the people who think they're up for the task, it's right there to help them
2015-01-30 20:00:41	@Espyo	I'll clean it up one of these days and send it your way so you can give feedback
2015-01-30 20:01:16	@J	sure
2015-01-30 20:02:45	Yoshi2_	a button that does the analysis seems like a good idea
2015-01-30 20:03:44	@Espyo	plus it probably wouldn't really work that well to help the people who do minor edits
2015-01-30 20:03:52	@Espyo	you can KIND of split the editors into three groups
2015-01-30 20:03:53	@Espyo	the pros
2015-01-30 20:04:05	@Espyo	the ones that do misc. edits and know the basic workarounds of the wiki
2015-01-30 20:04:12	@Espyo	and the ones that stop by sometimes to fix a typo or add a line
2015-01-30 20:04:35	@Espyo	the latter don't really need the analyzer, even though they'll probably screw up somewhere
2015-01-30 20:04:38	@Espyo	but hey, it's only one line
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2015-01-30 21:48:59	Mns2002	The pics are back to normal 
2015-01-30 21:50:12	Mns2002	Espyo
2015-01-30 21:51:19	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-30 21:51:20	@Espyo	what pics?
2015-01-30 21:51:56	Mns2002	REmber from last week,the pics were Brocken on my view
2015-01-30 21:52:02	Mns2002	Broken*
2015-01-30 21:52:41	@Espyo	oh yeah
2015-01-30 21:52:46	@Espyo	right, what changed
2015-01-30 21:52:47	@Espyo	*?
2015-01-30 21:53:01	Mns2002	Just thought I'd let you know.
2015-01-30 21:53:08	@Espyo	okay, thanks
2015-01-30 21:53:13	@Espyo	good to know we don't have to worry any more
2015-01-30 21:53:34	Mns2002	Ya,also,how many members does this wiki have
2015-01-30 21:53:54	@Espyo	hmm
2015-01-30 21:53:57	@Espyo	[[Special:ListUsers]]
2015-01-30 21:53:57	Testyo	"Special:ListUsers" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers
2015-01-30 21:54:08	@Espyo	aww, doesn't say
2015-01-30 21:54:12	@Espyo	[[Special:Statistics]]
2015-01-30 21:54:12	Testyo	"Special:Statistics" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Statistics
2015-01-30 21:54:16	Mns2002	Oh
2015-01-30 21:54:20	Mns2002	Okay
2015-01-30 21:54:25	@Espyo	 855
2015-01-30 21:54:31	Mns2002	Wow
2015-01-30 21:54:32	@Espyo	 23 of them are "active"
2015-01-30 21:54:37	Mns2002	Oh
2015-01-30 21:54:39	@Espyo	so, users that made a change in the past 30 days
2015-01-30 21:54:49	Mns2002	K
2015-01-30 21:55:13	Mns2002	Just curios,who started this wiki
2015-01-30 21:55:24	@Espyo	[[Pikipedia:About]]
2015-01-30 21:55:24	Testyo	"Pikipedia:About" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikipedia:About
2015-01-30 21:55:25	@Espyo	all there
2015-01-30 21:55:32	@Espyo	sorry if I sound condescending just dumping links
2015-01-30 21:55:33	Mns2002	Okay
2015-01-30 21:55:38	@Espyo	but they really explain better than I could right now
2015-01-30 21:55:43	Mns2002	It's fine
2015-01-30 21:55:44	Mns2002	K
2015-01-30 21:55:50	Mns2002	One more question
2015-01-30 21:56:11	Mns2002	Wait,never mind lost it lol
2015-01-30 21:56:16	Mns2002	Bye
2015-01-30 21:56:18	@Espyo	lol
2015-01-30 21:56:19	@Espyo	see ya
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2015-01-30 22:19:21	Yoshi2_	I haven't seen anybody "lose" a question until now
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2015-01-30 22:31:19	Waterpikmin	hello?
2015-01-30 22:31:25	Waterpikmin	anyone?
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2015-01-30 22:45:20	@Espyo	 29 seconds
2015-01-30 22:45:22	@Espyo	pretty much the median
2015-01-30 22:53:24	Testyo	at least I don't get do
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2015-01-30 23:37:43	@J	I'm really confused right now
2015-01-30 23:39:11	@J	so I have a thread to run some stuff in, and it sends data to the UI thread using Qt signals
2015-01-30 23:39:32	@J	just a signal.emit(data) kind of thing that works across threads
2015-01-30 23:39:56	@J	I write the data to a textarea
2015-01-30 23:40:26	@J	the worker thread is iterating over a list to get the data, and batches results up before sending them
2015-01-30 23:40:59	@J	now, I made the data that gets sent to the UI thread fixed - ie. it still does the calculations, but always sends a hardcoded result
2015-01-30 23:41:26	@J	what happens is, somehow the UI responsiveness depends on one of my inputs to the calculation
2015-01-30 23:41:50	@J	specifically, it's slow if my output template (this is for my file renamer) starts with '/'
2015-01-30 23:42:12	@J	even crazier, if I insert a 1ms sleep for each iteration on the worker thread, the UI gets more responsive
2015-01-30 23:42:50	@J	you would think that means it's flooding the UI with too much data, right?
2015-01-30 23:43:16	@J	but then why would the input to the calculation affect it, when the data is independent of the input
2015-01-30 23:44:26	@J	OH
2015-01-30 23:44:28	@J	I worked it out
2015-01-30 23:44:47	@J	it's because, for some reason, if the template starts with / the calculation is about 3 times faster
2015-01-30 23:44:52	@J	so in that case it's flooding the UI
2015-01-30 23:44:56	@J	thanks for the help
2015-01-30 23:48:39	@Espyo	<J> so I have a thread to run some stuff in, and it sends data to the UI thread using Qt signals
2015-01-30 23:48:40	@Espyo	oh no
2015-01-30 23:48:46	@Espyo	I rubbed threading off on GP
2015-01-30 23:49:52	@Espyo	is it MEANT to be slow if it starts with /?
2015-01-30 23:56:27	@J	I said the actual calculation is faster (somehow)
2015-01-30 23:56:54	@J	probably because it removes the need for the absolute path lookup
2015-01-30 23:57:29	@J	so it seems like what slows down the UI isn't writing the data to the textarea, it's sending signals too quickly
2015-01-30 23:57:42	@J	so instead of batches of fixed size, I should batch by time
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2015-01-31 00:03:05	@Espyo	hm
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2015-01-31 00:04:43	@J	so...it works
2015-01-31 00:05:41	@J	unfortunately the time I want will depend on CPU speed or something
2015-01-31 00:07:06	@J	well, 5 per second seems reasonable
2015-01-31 00:07:20	@Espyo	yeah
2015-01-31 00:07:27	@Espyo	also bad time, because bed time
2015-01-31 00:09:17	@Espyo	night
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2015-01-31 04:01:26	Waterpikmin	hello?
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2015-01-31 10:36:55	@J	you know you've lost track of time coding when Espyo says it's time for bed
2015-01-31 10:39:54	Yoshi2	indeed
2015-01-31 10:40:18	Yoshi2	no matter how long I manage to stay up, Espyo is always online when I go to bed
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2015-01-31 12:00:36	Testyo	Hey everyone!
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2015-01-31 12:18:23	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-01-31 12:18:24	Testyo	hmm, my player DEFINITELY has a problem is this font is ultra different from all others
2015-01-31 12:18:51	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-31 12:18:52	@Espyo	hey, neat
2015-01-31 12:19:00	@Espyo	I got an e-mail from Nintendo advertising the Short Movies
2015-01-31 12:26:30	@J	threading is working fairly well now
2015-01-31 12:33:25	@Espyo	yeah, when it works well, it works well
2015-01-31 12:33:29	@Espyo	when it works badly, it REALLY works badly
2015-01-31 12:38:50	Yoshi2	when it goes wrong, it goes wrong in the most horrible way you can imagine
2015-01-31 12:39:15	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-31 12:41:39	Yoshi2	there is something I noticed in Wind Waker in one of my first playthroughs of the Wii U version
2015-01-31 12:41:46	Yoshi2	and I finally managed to make a screenshot of that
2015-01-31 12:42:34	Yoshi2	you know how there is a map of the tower of gods that also contains a triangle island with all three godesses?
2015-01-31 12:46:29	@Espyo	with all three?
2015-01-31 12:46:46	@Espyo	I know there's a glitch where all three appear smushed together
2015-01-31 12:47:45	Yoshi2	I think when one statue is shown in the cutscene, the other two are disabled
2015-01-31 12:48:12	@Espyo	hmmm
2015-01-31 12:48:18	@Espyo	that makes a lot of sense, actually
2015-01-31 12:48:58	Yoshi2	anyway, I'm pretty sure this is the island: http://i.imgur.com/Avn63Ze.jpg
2015-01-31 12:51:54	@Espyo	let me re-read Zelda Wiki on this
2015-01-31 12:52:15	Yoshi2	another view from earlier in the cutscene: http://i.imgur.com/KGWN2B9.jpg
2015-01-31 12:53:25	@Espyo	ah, yes
2015-01-31 12:53:29	Yoshi2	note: the triangle islands are usually MUCH farther away
2015-01-31 12:53:34	@Espyo	but I thought that —
2015-01-31 12:53:36	@Espyo	yeah, exactly
2015-01-31 12:53:48	@Espyo	and nobody really noticed this yet?
2015-01-31 12:54:55	Yoshi2	no idea, haven't seen much about that
2015-01-31 12:56:02	@Espyo	great, now the internet forgot about that glitch
2015-01-31 12:56:10	@Espyo	I tried googling, tried Zelda Wiki, nothing mentions that glitch any more
2015-01-31 12:56:17	Yoshi2	what glitch?
2015-01-31 12:56:18	@Espyo	I know Pikipedia does... or did
2015-01-31 12:56:30	@Espyo	the glitch where you can see up close the three statues mashed together
2015-01-31 12:56:56	Yoshi2	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag6YusISIzk
2015-01-31 12:57:20	Yoshi2	that video is linked on the tcrf page of WW about this particular triangle island
2015-01-31 12:57:52	@Espyo	that's what I wanted
2015-01-31 12:58:21	Yoshi2	in the comments somebody mentioned noticing the triangle island in the cutscene too
2015-01-31 12:58:50	@Espyo	ah
2015-01-31 12:58:53	Yoshi2	I need to check a LP of the GC version about this particular part of the game
2015-01-31 12:58:54	@Espyo	well, you're not the first then
2015-01-31 12:59:36	Yoshi2	well, I might be the first to write about it on a wiki
2015-01-31 13:02:20	Yoshi2	my guess is that in the GC version the island would be hidden by the game's non-widescreen resolution
2015-01-31 13:05:13	Yoshi2	WW didn't have widescreen support, did it?
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2015-01-31 13:09:04	Shard1	Good day
2015-01-31 13:09:35	Yoshi2	hey Shard1 
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2015-01-31 13:11:01	Shard1	So, how's everyone been?
2015-01-31 13:12:21	Yoshi2	alright
2015-01-31 13:12:46	@Espyo	hi
2015-01-31 13:12:58	Yoshi2	I'm currently looking for a playthrough of Wind Waker on gamecube that isn't in widescreen
2015-01-31 13:13:10	@Espyo	there's one thing I don't get
2015-01-31 13:13:19	@Espyo	that island is used in the cutscene where the three statues connect, right?
2015-01-31 13:13:26	@Espyo	so they just hide the tower of the gods?
2015-01-31 13:13:29	@Espyo	wait, I do get that
2015-01-31 13:13:32	@Espyo	makes perfect sense
2015-01-31 13:13:34	@Espyo	wait, does it?
2015-01-31 13:13:41	@Espyo	what triggers the cutscene where the statues connect?
2015-01-31 13:13:45	@Espyo	it's when you deliver the final orb, right?
2015-01-31 13:14:00	@Espyo	so why pick the tower of the gods's quadrant for the cutscene?
2015-01-31 13:14:59	Yoshi2	because when you deliver the final orb, the cutscene starts and the tower of the gods rises above the water
2015-01-31 13:15:09	@Espyo	oooooohh
2015-01-31 13:15:12	@Espyo	it's been a while
2015-01-31 13:16:21	Shard1	Yeah. I only recently played Windwaker. (First Zelda game I played)
2015-01-31 13:18:28	Yoshi2	well, looks like my theory is wrong
2015-01-31 13:19:20	Yoshi2	the island could already be seen in the original version
2015-01-31 13:19:25	@Espyo	hm
2015-01-31 13:19:53	Shard1	Whixh island?
2015-01-31 13:20:01	Shard1	dang it, spelling errors
2015-01-31 13:20:39	Yoshi2	Wind Waker has a map of the Tower of Gods which contains a triangle island and the goddess statues
2015-01-31 13:21:19	Yoshi2	which can be seen in a cutscene after you meet Ganon for the first time
2015-01-31 13:21:35	Yoshi2	even though the triangle islands should be much farther away
2015-01-31 13:23:05	Shard1	oh yeah!
2015-01-31 13:25:02	Yoshi2	Shard1: look at how close it is to the ToG: https://i.imgur.com/Avn63Ze.jpg
2015-01-31 13:25:07	Yoshi2	barely a stone throw away
2015-01-31 13:25:53	Shard1	go figure
2015-01-31 13:27:07	Shard1	so, what games are you looking forward too?
2015-01-31 13:27:40	Yoshi2	mario maker
2015-01-31 13:30:58	Shard1	that game looks good I'm thinking about Splatoon
2015-01-31 13:34:52	Shard1	http://play.nintendo.com/activities/quizzes/which-pikmin-are-you-most/
2015-01-31 13:35:50	Shard1	I got blue
2015-01-31 13:35:51	Yoshi2	if it is as powerful as it looks in the videos, mario maker will easily become my GotY
2015-01-31 13:36:40	Yoshi2	the first question is unfair
2015-01-31 13:36:48	Yoshi2	I never pick up dogs
2015-01-31 13:37:25	Shard1	I know, right? I just guessed
2015-01-31 13:38:20	Yoshi2	winged pikmin
2015-01-31 13:38:28	Yoshi2	woohoo
2015-01-31 13:39:20	Yoshi2	but I think it was pretty much a give-away when I picked "Helicopter"
2015-01-31 13:41:33	Yoshi2	I went through the quiz 5 times and chose different objects for the "That's a sweet [insert here]!" question
2015-01-31 13:42:06	Shard1	And? What do you deduce?
2015-01-31 13:42:12	Yoshi2	I am 3/5th a purple pikmin, 1/5th a yellow pikmin and 1/5th a winged pikmin
2015-01-31 13:43:12	Yoshi2	I do like to reverse-engineer such quiz pages
2015-01-31 13:43:33	Shard1	Hmm, I'll try
2015-01-31 13:45:19	Shard1	I am 3/5th a purple pikmin, 1/5th a yellow pikmin, and 1/5th a blue pikmin
2015-01-31 13:45:29	Yoshi2	hm, I will try to reverse-engineer the answers later, got trouble with firefox's web dev tools
2015-01-31 13:46:39	Shard1	I'll see what other quizes I can reverse-engineer :}
2015-01-31 13:55:45	Shard1	well, I just hit the point where I'm going to need to take an in-game screenshot for my walkthrough
2015-01-31 14:01:34	@Espyo	>We're not just going to ask you your favorite color because, duh, OBVIOUS.
2015-01-31 14:01:48	@Espyo	"instead, we'll just ask questions about your strength, your liking of water, your nose size, etc."
2015-01-31 14:01:52	@Espyo	"you know, non-obvious questions"
2015-01-31 14:02:19	Shard1	:P True enough
2015-01-31 14:02:39	@Espyo	>how would your friend describe you?
2015-01-31 14:02:41	@Espyo	>flighty
2015-01-31 14:02:43	@Espyo	COME ON, NINTENDO
2015-01-31 14:03:59	Yoshi2	back stabber
2015-01-31 14:04:03	Yoshi2	very violent
2015-01-31 14:04:15	@Espyo	I picked that
2015-01-31 14:04:22	@Espyo	I... fail to see how a Yellow Pikmin fits
2015-01-31 14:04:23	Shard1	I know, and there is NO pikmin who is a back-stabber
2015-01-31 14:04:32	@Espyo	I'll try again, because I REALLY want to know which is the "back-stabber"
2015-01-31 14:04:35	@Espyo	...Bulbmin, maybe?
2015-01-31 14:04:42	@Espyo	except nah, Nintendo doesn't really acknowledge unpopular things
2015-01-31 14:05:06	Shard1	No, I think they just have all of them excluding bulbmin
2015-01-31 14:05:21	Yoshi2	I need firebug
2015-01-31 14:06:28	@Espyo	hm, you're suggesting you can use JS to find out what does what?
2015-01-31 14:06:29	Shard1	Ok, so apparently White Pikmin is the "back stabber" as they are toxic and everything
2015-01-31 14:06:42	@Espyo	eeesh, what a cruddy description
2015-01-31 14:06:50	Yoshi2	Espyo: well, look at JS to find out what does what
2015-01-31 14:07:18	@Espyo	right
2015-01-31 14:07:23	@Espyo	good luck, chances are it's minified
2015-01-31 14:07:50	Yoshi2	somehow the firefox tools feel slower than firebug
2015-01-31 14:07:53	Shard1	I mean, so far only 5 types have been found when going through different combos
2015-01-31 14:08:34	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> somehow the firefox tools feel slower than firebug
2015-01-31 14:08:37	@Espyo	EXACT opposite to me
2015-01-31 14:08:44	@Espyo	I had to get rid of Firebug due to how slow it was
2015-01-31 14:08:48	Yoshi2	odd
2015-01-31 14:09:01	@Espyo	okay, so I tried answering white, red, yellow, purple, blue
2015-01-31 14:09:02	Shard1	So, I found red pikmin. Let's see if rock pikmin is possible
2015-01-31 14:09:04	@Espyo	and I got white
2015-01-31 14:09:04	@Espyo	eh
2015-01-31 14:09:54	Shard1	ok, I got the rock pikmin
2015-01-31 14:14:20	Yoshi2	alright, the script assigns a value from 0 to 4 to an array for each question you answer
2015-01-31 14:15:13	Shard1	Yeah! Let's get down to the brass tacks
2015-01-31 14:16:18	@Espyo	figues
2015-01-31 14:16:21	@Espyo	*figures
2015-01-31 14:17:03	Yoshi2	I've had the firefox tool just freeze on me when I was clicking around, but firebug works fine
2015-01-31 14:17:08	Yoshi2	very odd
2015-01-31 14:17:48	Shard1	Well, I had a slightly bad day yesterday. My thumb-rest on one of my clarinets broke
2015-01-31 14:18:39	@Espyo	damn that really sucks
2015-01-31 14:18:47	Shard1	Yeah
2015-01-31 14:18:54	Shard1	Luckily it wasn't my wooden one
2015-01-31 14:20:55	Yoshi2	damnit, I almost found something that looked useful
2015-01-31 14:21:06	Yoshi2	but then I clicked somewhere and now I am not sure where it was
2015-01-31 14:21:52	Yoshi2	ah, found it again
2015-01-31 14:22:25	Yoshi2	I think it is some json data
2015-01-31 14:22:55	@Espyo	hmmm
2015-01-31 14:23:14	Yoshi2	need to pretty-print it
2015-01-31 14:23:16	Shard1	so, what did you guys find out?
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2015-01-31 14:24:29	Shard1	I just hate it when I need to refresh the page afterwards
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2015-01-31 14:28:19	@J	...spent ages tracking down a bug, turns out I'd accidentally commented out a vital line
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2015-01-31 14:29:11	Shard1	What do you guys speculate will be in Pikmin 4?
2015-01-31 14:30:18	Yoshi2	there are red, blue, yellow, rock, winged, white and purple pikmin in the quiz
2015-01-31 14:31:10	Shard1	Yeah, I found that out
2015-01-31 14:32:30	Yoshi2	and each answer has a value between 57 and 63
2015-01-31 14:32:45	@Espyo	hehe
2015-01-31 14:32:52	Yoshi2	I suppose those refer to pikmin IDs
2015-01-31 14:33:06	@Espyo	why those values though?
2015-01-31 14:33:29	Yoshi2	because nintendo
2015-01-31 14:33:42	Yoshi2	who knows, but the pikmin do have an ID each
2015-01-31 14:34:00	@Espyo	right
2015-01-31 14:34:05	Yoshi2	I'll write a code which puts together the questions and pikmin
2015-01-31 14:34:06	Shard1	So, the number add up and then the pikmin ID in that range is the one you get
2015-01-31 14:34:32	Yoshi2	maybe the numbers are added together and then divided by 5
2015-01-31 14:34:40	Shard1	Hmm, interesting
2015-01-31 14:34:48	Yoshi2	or maybe the game chooses the pikmin with the most answers
2015-01-31 14:34:54	Yoshi2	haven't looked yet
2015-01-31 14:41:09	Yoshi2	well, it shouldn't matter how the page chooses which pikmin you are
2015-01-31 14:41:39	Yoshi2	it probably chooses by which ID appears the most often in your answer array
2015-01-31 14:42:12	Yoshi2	because every question has one pikmin ID it doesn't have any answers for
2015-01-31 14:43:20	Shard1	but if there are 7 possibilities and 5 answers..
2015-01-31 14:43:51	Yoshi2	ah yes
2015-01-31 14:43:55	Yoshi2	two pikmin IDs
2015-01-31 14:44:05	Shard1	that sounds better
2015-01-31 14:44:14	Yoshi2	which won't have any answer belonging to them in each question
2015-01-31 14:45:50	Shard1	I'll be back
2015-01-31 14:45:56	Shard1	I got to go and do some things
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2015-01-31 14:54:21	Yoshi2	tadaaa
2015-01-31 14:54:26	Yoshi2	Espyo: http://pastebin.com/9R62rtw1
2015-01-31 14:54:49	@Espyo	it already starts off dumb
2015-01-31 14:54:53	@Espyo	White Pikmin carry stuff fast
2015-01-31 14:55:05	@Espyo	sure, it could be all in the legs, but they still need to be at least as strong as other types
2015-01-31 14:55:11	@Espyo	Wingeds on the other hand...
2015-01-31 14:55:18	@Espyo	wait what?!
2015-01-31 14:55:21	@Espyo	Wingeds are midway?
2015-01-31 14:55:44	@Espyo	Rain forest treetops is winged...
2015-01-31 14:55:47	@Espyo	I seriously can't...
2015-01-31 14:55:55	@Espyo	Yellow Pikmin's thing is being up high
2015-01-31 14:56:23	@Espyo	but Reds LIKE fire
2015-01-31 14:56:30	@Espyo	why would they like firetrucks, the fire's natural enemy?
2015-01-31 14:56:46	@Espyo	all in all...
2015-01-31 14:56:50	@Espyo	it's a horrible quiz
2015-01-31 14:56:51	@Espyo	damn
2015-01-31 14:57:09	Yoshi2	heh
2015-01-31 14:57:21	@Espyo	it's just meant to be a silly thing, sure, but
2015-01-31 14:57:37	@Espyo	it makes me each time more convinced that not everybody that works at Nintendo knows what they're doing when they're tasked to do something
2015-01-31 14:57:46	Yoshi2	welcome to the world of "Check out which character you are"-Quizzes
2015-01-31 14:57:54	@Espyo	yeah, I guess...
2015-01-31 15:00:46	Yoshi2	if you manage to answer the questions in such a way that each answer belongs to a different pikmin, it appears to choose the first pikmin
2015-01-31 15:02:43	Yoshi2	i.e. the pikmin belonging to the first answer
2015-01-31 15:03:43	Yoshi2	other than that, it goes with the pikmin that has the most answers you chose
2015-01-31 15:05:20	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-31 15:07:26	Yoshi2	I do need to ask myself why I am dissecting a quiz page directed at children and people who don't play video games that much
2015-01-31 15:11:56	@Espyo	hehehe
2015-01-31 15:12:07	@Espyo	you know, I never really thought about the quiz that way
2015-01-31 15:12:10	@Espyo	I mean, sure, kids
2015-01-31 15:12:19	@Espyo	but the part about it being who aren't 100% knowledgeable on the series...
2015-01-31 15:12:20	@Espyo	makes sense
2015-01-31 15:12:26	@Espyo	WE know what answers equal what
2015-01-31 15:12:29	@Espyo	but this is for people who don't
2015-01-31 15:12:38	@Espyo	still, it isn't really that good, because of the stuff I said before...
2015-01-31 15:13:06	@Espyo	White Pikmin being able to only carry super-light things, give me a break...
2015-01-31 15:13:26	Testyo	did you think about Snowhead?
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2015-01-31 16:36:37	@Espyo	J help
2015-01-31 16:36:41	@Espyo	http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Transcript&action=edit
2015-01-31 16:36:46	@Espyo	this template doesn't like multiline
2015-01-31 16:36:47	@Espyo	what do
2015-01-31 16:37:00	@Espyo	the entire content is in a div, dammit
2015-01-31 16:37:10	@Espyo	why does MediaWiki break the div off in the middle of the template?!
2015-01-31 16:40:08	@Espyo	oh, it DOES work, just not on tables
2015-01-31 16:40:08	@Espyo	...
2015-01-31 16:40:50	@Espyo	it works if I don't send in an actual line break, but send <br> instead
2015-01-31 16:40:52	@Espyo	*shrug*
2015-01-31 16:44:49	@J	why is there a div anyway?
2015-01-31 16:45:45	@J	also not everyone has Times New Roman
2015-01-31 16:45:59	@J	oh, never mind, I see the 'serif'
2015-01-31 16:46:03	@J	for some reason I missed it
2015-01-31 16:48:08	@Espyo	the div is precisely because of multiline
2015-01-31 16:48:30	@Espyo	although I didn't really check if span works for <br>-containing content
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2015-01-31 16:58:25	Testyo	[Fanon RC] User talk:Cheepy-Cheepy by RuddieTheRedBulborb (+1) http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Cheepy-Cheepy&curid=4622&diff=47708&oldid=47707
2015-01-31 17:28:49	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Real world rusty bolt.jpg uploaded by Piktoad (A real world rusty bolt.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Real_world_rusty_bolt.jpg
2015-01-31 17:28:49	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Repair Juggernaut by Piktoad (+12 /* Gallery */ Add a real world RUSTY bolt) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Repair_Juggernaut&curid=1079&diff=144417&oldid=138810
2015-01-31 17:31:41	@Espyo	okay, I'm not imagining this
2015-01-31 17:31:51	@Espyo	visual studio takes FAR less time to replace than it does to search
2015-01-31 17:32:19	@Espyo	I mean, it takes far less time to replace all instances of a word in the project than it does to find the next instance in the whole project
2015-01-31 17:41:46	@J	because sense
2015-01-31 17:47:05	@Espyo	uhm...
2015-01-31 17:47:11	@Espyo	how do I merge two comits from two branches?
2015-01-31 17:47:14	@Espyo	cherry-picking?
2015-01-31 18:00:34	@J	I'm not sure what you're trying to do
2015-01-31 18:01:08	@J	you want to copy one commit on branch A into branch B?
2015-01-31 18:01:34	@Espyo	mhm
2015-01-31 18:02:02	Yoshi2	seems like something cherry-picking could do
2015-01-31 18:02:14	Yoshi2	but I am clueless when it comes to git stuff
2015-01-31 18:07:03	@J	yeah, you just checkout branch B, then 'git cherry-pick <commit ID>'
2015-01-31 18:07:34	@J	this will create a copy of the commit on branch B, so it won't have the same ID as the original, and will conflict with itself if you merge those branches
2015-01-31 18:08:32	@J	if you're just trying to avoid merging some of the changes from A into B, you can always 'git merge <commit ID>' if it's only commits after the commit in question that you don't want
2015-01-31 18:14:29	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Captain Olimar by AeroBlaze777 (+44 m /* Alt */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Captain_Olimar&curid=286&diff=144418&oldid=144415
2015-01-31 18:23:02	@Espyo	already merged
2015-01-31 18:23:09	@Espyo	though it was kinda wonky
2015-01-31 18:23:13	@Espyo	some conflicts
2015-01-31 18:23:17	@Espyo	*shrug*
2015-01-31 19:10:28	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] 3DS by AeroBlaze777 (+33 m /* Themes */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=3DS&curid=8235&diff=144419&oldid=143774
2015-01-31 19:30:42	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Commercials by PikPikPk (+32) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Commercials&curid=15717&diff=144420&oldid=124511
2015-01-31 19:30:42	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Commercials by PikPikPk (0) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Commercials&curid=15717&diff=144421&oldid=144420
2015-01-31 19:30:42	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-01-31 19:35:47	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:TwilightHollowSC.png uploaded by AeroBlaze777 (A screenshot of the Twilight Hollow Remix stage.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:TwilightHollowSC.png
2015-01-31 19:35:47	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Skutterchuck by GoldenTriforce (+534 For the merge) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Skutterchuck&curid=8261&diff=144424&oldid=124069
2015-01-31 19:41:11	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Commercials by PikPikPk (+161) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Commercials&curid=15717&diff=144425&oldid=144422
2015-01-31 19:56:27	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Skutterchuck by GoldenTriforce (+1270 Edits for the merge) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Skutterchuck&curid=8261&diff=144426&oldid=144424
2015-01-31 20:01:30	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Commercials by PikPikPk (+319) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Commercials&curid=15717&diff=144427&oldid=144425
2015-01-31 20:01:31	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Skutterchuck by GoldenTriforce (+1) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Skutterchuck&curid=8261&diff=144428&oldid=144426
2015-01-31 20:06:36	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Skutterchuck by GoldenTriforce (-35 Finished merging) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Skutterchuck&curid=8261&diff=144429&oldid=144428
2015-01-31 20:06:36	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Skutterchuck by GoldenTriforce (+41) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Skutterchuck&curid=8261&diff=144430&oldid=144429
2015-01-31 20:06:36	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-01-31 20:11:41	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikmin Nature Documentari... by PikPikPk (+101) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_Nature_Documentaries&curid=15692&diff=144432&oldid=144431
2015-01-31 20:11:41	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikmin Nature Documentari... by PikPikPk (+2) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_Nature_Documentaries&curid=15692&diff=144433&oldid=144432
2015-01-31 20:16:46	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Skutterchuck by AeroBlaze777 (+26 m To-dos.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Skutterchuck&curid=8261&diff=144434&oldid=144430
2015-01-31 20:16:47	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Twilight Hollow Remix by AeroBlaze777 (+1677 Merged.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Twilight_Hollow_Remix&curid=16376&diff=144435&oldid=143051
2015-01-31 20:21:52	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikmin Nature Documentari... by AeroBlaze777 (-426 Cleaning up.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_Nature_Documentaries&curid=15692&diff=144436&oldid=144433
2015-01-31 20:26:56	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Trailers by PikPikPk (+160) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Trailers&curid=15719&diff=144437&oldid=123929
2015-01-31 20:37:07	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Pikmin Short Movies by 68.63.242.35 (+161 N question) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Pikmin_Short_Movies&curid=18097&diff=144438&oldid=0
2015-01-31 20:37:08	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Trailers by PikPikPk (+286) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Trailers&curid=15719&diff=144439&oldid=144437
2015-01-31 20:37:08	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-01-31 21:33:02	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Pikmin Short Movies by AeroBlaze777 (+250) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Pikmin_Short_Movies&curid=18097&diff=144441&oldid=144440
2015-01-31 21:33:02	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (log) Pikmin Nature Documentari... by AeroBlaze777 (0 That's the real name.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_Nature_Documentaries&curid=18098&diff=0&oldid=0
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2015-01-31 23:12:43	Shard1	Hey guys!
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2015-02-01 01:40:10	Testyo	i mean the guy many different styles
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2015-02-01 08:58:17	--	Topic set by PikFan on Sat, 03 May 2014 19:36:58
2015-02-01 08:58:17	--	Channel #pikipedia: 7 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 6 normals)
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2015-02-01 12:06:30	Testyo	Afternoon everyone!
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2015-02-01 12:18:00	@J	when Testyo points out how late you wake up
2015-02-01 12:18:02	Testyo	yeah
2015-02-01 12:18:27	@J	yeah
2015-02-01 12:21:07	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-02-01 12:21:08	Testyo	same for Olimar's Journal, by the looks of course
2015-02-01 12:21:16	Yoshi2	what did testyo say?
2015-02-01 12:21:16	Testyo	and for the longest than just Pikipedia
2015-02-01 12:25:04	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-01 12:25:19	@Espyo	hey, I could've woken up ages ago
2015-02-01 12:25:25	@Espyo	and just stayed in bed staring at the ceiling
2015-02-01 12:25:38	@Espyo	anyway, there's this guy on the Pikmin wikia
2015-02-01 12:25:46	@Espyo	for like a month now, we've told him to move out to Pikipedia
2015-02-01 12:26:02	@Espyo	but he insists that he wants to adopt and reflourish the wikia
2015-02-01 12:26:18	@Espyo	we kept trying to explain to him that there aren't meant to be two wikis, so he can't take the old one
2015-02-01 12:26:26	@Espyo	the old one is old, and it's meant to stay old
2015-02-01 12:26:29	@Espyo	he just does not get the point
2015-02-01 12:26:38	@Espyo	he insists on wanting to bring it back to life
2015-02-01 12:26:47	@Espyo	and I'm pretty much at the end of my rope, here
2015-02-01 12:26:55	@Espyo	http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:22034
2015-02-01 12:31:45	@J	[12:06:30] Testyo Afternoon everyone!
2015-02-01 12:31:47	Testyo	in Pikmin 2 the developer seem to have done ripped the music
2015-02-01 12:32:16	@Espyo	I know, I know
2015-02-01 12:39:10	@J	that was at Yoshi
2015-02-01 12:39:40	@J	I read some of the stuff, seems like you're all just saying the same things again every time
2015-02-01 12:41:50	@Espyo	what else CAN we say?
2015-02-01 12:42:04	@Espyo	the concept literally is as simple as "we don't want this old thing to be a thing any more"
2015-02-01 12:44:49	@J	and the guy understands that, so why keep saying it?
2015-02-01 12:45:19	@J	I would get pretty annoyed if someone kept making the same argument, as if I'm not intelligent enough to get it the first time
2015-02-01 12:46:51	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikipedia:Sandbox by L3re7z (+14643) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikipedia:Sandbox&curid=1768&diff=144448&oldid=143737
2015-02-01 12:46:51	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pikipedia:Sandbox by L3re7z (+1) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikipedia:Sandbox&curid=1768&diff=144449&oldid=144448
2015-02-01 12:49:35	@Espyo	he's not
2015-02-01 12:49:42	@Espyo	he insists on continuing despite what we said
2015-02-01 12:49:52	@Espyo	what else can we do? let him?
2015-02-01 12:50:02	@J	he's not what?
2015-02-01 12:50:15	@Espyo	he's not getting it the first time
2015-02-01 12:50:18	@J	he really is
2015-02-01 12:50:25	@J	he just doesn't agree
2015-02-01 12:50:28	@J	there's a difference
2015-02-01 12:50:43	@Espyo	right... but
2015-02-01 12:50:48	@Espyo	what can we do if not try to explain in different terms?
2015-02-01 12:50:54	@Espyo	hopefully there's something he's not getting
2015-02-01 12:50:56	@Espyo	I mean, not any more
2015-02-01 12:51:00	@Espyo	I'm tired of rewording what I said
2015-02-01 12:51:06	@Espyo	but what could we have done?
2015-02-01 12:52:29	@J	I'll think about it, but I'm not sure; I'm just saying that's a pretty good way to make the guy think twice about using Pikipedia
2015-02-01 12:53:32	@Espyo	I get that, and it's not like I wanted to
2015-02-01 12:53:51	@Espyo	but you know darn well we can't really assume that somebody on the internet gets the point on the first go
2015-02-01 12:54:05	@Espyo	specially somebody who really can't understand the things the way they need to
2015-02-01 12:55:52	@J	I would say the starting point now is to understand what he's saying (he doesn't want people going to pikmin.wikia to think there's no real Pikmin community), decide if you agree, and see if you can come up with a way to reconcile that with 'everyone should only use Pikipedia'
2015-02-01 12:55:58	@J	now lunch
2015-02-01 12:57:13	@Espyo	see, that's just the point
2015-02-01 12:57:16	@Espyo	I did see his points
2015-02-01 12:57:46	@Espyo	he wants to keep editing the old wiki so that people who come looking for a wiki don't see the wikia, see it in shambles, and think that Pikmin fans suck
2015-02-01 12:58:11	@Espyo	but he fails to see that in the long run, that'll just create a loop of good quality to more people joining, to higher quality, to ...
2015-02-01 12:58:18	@Espyo	once again leaving Pikipedia in the dust
2015-02-01 12:58:27	@Espyo	"hurr durr, overreacting", you might be thinking
2015-02-01 12:58:46	@Espyo	until you remember that it really only took one of the Pikmin Wiki guys to become admin and revive it
2015-02-01 12:59:30	@J	I don't mean decide if you agree with his solution, I mean decide if you agree with his goal
2015-02-01 12:59:55	@Espyo	not really getting the difference
2015-02-01 13:00:00	@Espyo	his goal is... a goal
2015-02-01 13:00:08	@Espyo	a good one? not really
2015-02-01 13:00:26	@J	well, lunch is ready, I'll talk more after
2015-02-01 13:00:31	@Espyo	okay, go on
2015-02-01 13:00:41	@Espyo	enjoy
2015-02-01 13:00:46	@Espyo	hm, and I have to brb too, so...
2015-02-01 13:04:48	Yoshi2	that is quite a complicated matter
2015-02-01 13:08:25	Yoshi2	I suppose a message saying "Hey, the wiki is now at XYZ" is not an option?
2015-02-01 13:22:22	@Espyo	we did that
2015-02-01 13:22:24	@Espyo	countless times
2015-02-01 13:48:43	@J	oh, this
2015-02-01 13:49:12	@Espyo	...now I've got lunch
2015-02-01 13:49:35	@J	'kay
2015-02-01 14:10:58	@Espyo	all right, here I am
2015-02-01 14:19:51	@J	yeah, I was just saying that his goal is to avoid people getting bad impressions of the Pikmin community - he wants them to be able to find it, if they're looking for it
2015-02-01 14:20:00	@J	and I expect we all agree with that
2015-02-01 14:20:22	@Espyo	of course
2015-02-01 14:20:38	@J	his problem is that a poorly maintained/vandalised Wikia site has that effect
2015-02-01 14:20:44	@J	and I agree with that, not sure about you
2015-02-01 14:21:31	@J	so the question is, is there any other solution to the problem than maintaining the Wikia site?  (that sounds rhetorical, but it's not
2015-02-01 14:21:32	@J	)
2015-02-01 14:21:33	@Espyo	of course I do
2015-02-01 14:22:00	@Espyo	the solution would be to focus our resources into getting people to understand that there are two wikis, instead of focusing them on cleaning up the welcoming mat
2015-02-01 14:23:43	@J	how would you do that?  Obviously there's the problem of Wikia staff interfering - but also people seeing a mess on the main page will just turn them away before they read any such notice
2015-02-01 14:24:08	@Espyo	the wikia staff doesn't seem to be in the way, that much
2015-02-01 14:24:11	@J	does it make sense to have a well-presented main page?  People are likely to enter the site through other pages, though
2015-02-01 14:24:19	@Espyo	I've already told like 6 or 7 people to come to Pikipedia, and the staff doesn't care
2015-02-01 14:24:30	@Espyo	I'd say the main page is one of the least visited, to be honest
2015-02-01 14:24:40	@Espyo	people might normally come from search engines
2015-02-01 14:24:57	@J	I think they would care more if people were told to move on main pages, rather than talk pages
2015-02-01 14:25:06	@Espyo	I suppose
2015-02-01 14:25:10	@J	since then it becomes the 'site's opinion'
2015-02-01 14:25:21	@Espyo	with having a clean main page, it would of course give readers a good impression of the community
2015-02-01 14:25:28	@Espyo	...but it would also give a good impression of that wiki
2015-02-01 14:25:33	@Espyo	which would encourage them to contribute more
2015-02-01 14:25:38	@Espyo	which would increase the quality
2015-02-01 14:25:44	@Espyo	and... well, we know how that ended up last time
2015-02-01 14:26:14	@J	how about trying to shift the focus of the main page (and possible the whole wiki through sidebar/banner/etc.) to be almost a portal to other Pikmin community sites
2015-02-01 14:26:28	@J	now, Wikia can complain about a thing that says 'go to Pikipedia instead'
2015-02-01 14:26:35	@J	but linking to forums prominently?
2015-02-01 14:26:44	@J	and if you have other links, why can't you mention other wikis?
2015-02-01 14:27:03	@Espyo	>how about trying to shift the focus of the main page
2015-02-01 14:27:05	@Espyo	but how?
2015-02-01 14:27:25	@Espyo	but the thing is, that would just "point out" an alternate wiki
2015-02-01 14:27:36	@Espyo	instead of going for our ultimate goal to drive everybody away from wikia
2015-02-01 14:27:58	@J	yeah, I know
2015-02-01 14:28:28	@Espyo	so it wouldn't be optimal
2015-02-01 14:28:41	@Espyo	the way I see it, we can win by gaining ground on search engines
2015-02-01 14:28:47	@Espyo	when people search, they'll see two wikis
2015-02-01 14:28:56	@Espyo	they'll go for the first, naturally wikia, and dislike it
2015-02-01 14:29:01	@J	I'm just thinking, what if the first thing you see is 'hey, look at all these great Pikmin resources, all these places all over the internet with active Pikmin fans'?
2015-02-01 14:29:10	@Espyo	but as long as we can at least be in their minds as an alternative, people will at least try to go to Pikipedia and try it out
2015-02-01 14:29:34	@Espyo	that could be one of the things a person sees, yes, but what are you getting at?
2015-02-01 14:30:09	@J	people are visiting Wikia a lot, still, and there's a lot that could be done to get them from there to other sites
2015-02-01 14:30:22	@J	and it could be presented as a compromise to the guy you're talking with
2015-02-01 14:30:55	@Espyo	do we have no alternative?
2015-02-01 14:31:21	@J	this is an alternative to him maintaining all the content
2015-02-01 14:31:34	@Espyo	yes
2015-02-01 14:31:43	@Espyo	but is it an ideal alternative for Pikipedia to flourish?
2015-02-01 14:31:56	@Espyo	I'm just really scared about Pikmin 4
2015-02-01 14:31:59	@Espyo	it's been pretty much confirmed
2015-02-01 14:32:03	@J	he's already said no to your suggestions, so
2015-02-01 14:32:03	@Espyo	or at least a spin-off
2015-02-01 14:32:14	@Espyo	and people WILL go to wikia again
2015-02-01 14:32:23	@Espyo	by then, I guess we could point people out that Pikipedia is the way to go
2015-02-01 14:32:32	@Espyo	...but we would have to do that like 5 times a day for everybody that joins
2015-02-01 14:32:33	@J	also try and get the guy into IRC
2015-02-01 14:32:42	@J	or the Skype thing
2015-02-01 14:32:45	@Espyo	we already tried to get him on skype
2015-02-01 14:32:49	@J	hmm
2015-02-01 14:32:49	@Espyo	I... don't know how that worked out
2015-02-01 14:32:50	@Espyo	hm
2015-02-01 14:32:53	@J	I didn't see that
2015-02-01 14:32:54	@Espyo	I'll ask
2015-02-01 14:33:01	@J	well, it was a good idea
2015-02-01 14:33:03	@Espyo	might've been when I was away
2015-02-01 14:33:18	@J	and not to suddenly ambush him with arguments
2015-02-01 14:33:33	@J	just ignore it and get him to be a member of the community
2015-02-01 14:33:41	@Espyo	right
2015-02-01 14:34:08	@Espyo	normally, he edits at around 11:00
2015-02-01 14:34:19	@Espyo	so I'm guessing he's American, and that's his 15:00 or so
2015-02-01 14:34:45	@Espyo	I'll try asking him now, but no guarantees about when he'll get the message
2015-02-01 14:36:54	@Espyo	ideally...
2015-02-01 14:37:11	@Espyo	we'd have a way to tell almost everybody that the community is all at Pikipedia, and that Pikipedia is updated, more complete, etc.
2015-02-01 14:37:29	@Espyo	I don't fancy the idea of us being a wiki "alongside" the wikia
2015-02-01 14:37:36	@J	yeah, I know
2015-02-01 14:37:39	@Espyo	some NIWA wikis chose to coexist peacefully
2015-02-01 14:37:46	@Espyo	others didn't
2015-02-01 14:37:56	@Espyo	there really is no easy way for this, huh
2015-02-01 14:38:03	@Espyo	kirbyddd or not, there just is no easy way
2015-02-01 14:38:10	@Espyo	I think the best we can do is try
2015-02-01 14:38:14	@Espyo	and then take it from there
2015-02-01 14:38:21	@Espyo	Pikmin 4 might be the way
2015-02-01 14:38:30	@Espyo	if we can at least reach SmashWiki status, I'll be pleased
2015-02-01 14:38:38	@J	um
2015-02-01 14:38:39	@Espyo	for SmashWiki, anybody who wants Smash Bros. info goes there
2015-02-01 14:38:39	@J	I
2015-02-01 14:38:45	@Espyo	nobody is dumb enough to--
2015-02-01 14:38:47	@Espyo	J...
2015-02-01 14:38:52	@J	I just checked, and I made my frist commit almost 8 years ago
2015-02-01 14:38:56	@Espyo	oh
2015-02-01 14:39:04	@Espyo	I thought you were gonna say you go to the Smash wiki for Smash info
2015-02-01 14:39:12	@Espyo	wait, first commit on what?
2015-02-01 14:39:16	@Espyo	wait, Git was around 8 years ago?
2015-02-01 14:41:28	@J	uh
2015-02-01 14:41:28	@J	.......
2015-02-01 14:41:30	@J	*edit
2015-02-01 14:41:34	@J	*first
2015-02-01 14:43:36	@Espyo	heh
2015-02-01 14:43:55	@Espyo	yep, the wiki's been around for that long
2015-02-01 14:44:39	@J	and the wiki becomes 10 this year
2015-02-01 14:44:55	@Espyo	it's really hard to grasp that concept
2015-02-01 14:45:26	@J	there are probably younger editors
2015-02-01 14:46:12	@Espyo	...
2015-02-01 14:46:14	@Espyo	I didn't even think of that
2015-02-01 14:46:17	@Espyo	you're right
2015-02-01 14:46:18	@Espyo	wow
2015-02-01 14:46:32	Yoshi2	my gamecube is close to being 10 years old
2015-02-01 14:47:00	Yoshi2	I received it either in 2005 or early 2006
2015-02-01 14:49:16	@J	I think I got mine with Pokémon Colosseum
2015-02-01 14:49:19	@J	so...
2015-02-01 14:49:23	@J	whenever that was new
2015-02-01 14:49:24	@J	ish
2015-02-01 14:50:34	Yoshi2	I became involved with gamecube stuff very late
2015-02-01 14:50:55	Yoshi2	in 2007 I already had my Wii
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2015-02-01 15:21:18	@J	http://i.imgur.com/Z0em2UL.png
2015-02-01 15:21:26	@J	looking at this, how do you think it works?
2015-02-01 15:22:26	@Espyo	this runs a collection of scripts, I'm guessing?
2015-02-01 15:22:54	@Espyo	on the first box, you can choose what to add to the file filters
2015-02-01 15:23:07	@Espyo	a pattern, probably some criteria like creation date and such
2015-02-01 15:23:21	@Espyo	as for the rest, I'm really without context
2015-02-01 15:23:32	Yoshi2	the noob inside me would be confused by how the Files part does not have a "Choose file" button
2015-02-01 15:23:59	@Espyo	hehe yeah
2015-02-01 15:24:02	@J	http://i.imgur.com/W2f56sE.png
2015-02-01 15:24:14	@J	that's teh part I'm asking about, really
2015-02-01 15:24:22	@J	how do you add file sources
2015-02-01 15:24:23	@J	*the
2015-02-01 15:24:24	@J	etc.
2015-02-01 15:25:05	@Espyo	well, after you pick one of those options from the drop-down
2015-02-01 15:25:15	@Espyo	a dialog appears
2015-02-01 15:25:33	@Espyo	with a native file chooser, or with a place where you can type a (guessing regex) pattern
2015-02-01 15:25:45	@Espyo	and that adds that as a rule
2015-02-01 15:25:49	@Espyo	and you can stack rules
2015-02-01 15:26:02	@Espyo	so only files that have "asd" in the name, but from this selection of files
2015-02-01 15:26:02	@J	http://i.imgur.com/cwDEfNQ.png this is how it used to be
2015-02-01 15:26:15	@Espyo	that works too
2015-02-01 15:26:16	@J	I'm just asking if it's any less clear now
2015-02-01 15:26:20	@Espyo	except more GUI
2015-02-01 15:26:28	@Espyo	well, the "+" is a giveaway
2015-02-01 15:26:32	@Espyo	but I don't think everybody would get it
2015-02-01 15:26:37	@Espyo	depends on who the program is for
2015-02-01 15:26:44	@Espyo	is this that GameCube ISO program?
2015-02-01 15:26:54	@J	'for those who understand regular expressions, glob-style patterns and maybe a little scripting'
2015-02-01 15:27:04	@J	no, this is the file renamer
2015-02-01 15:27:08	@Espyo	oh
2015-02-01 15:27:14	@J	http://ikn.org.uk/imgs/farragone/main.png
2015-02-01 15:27:37	@Espyo	btw, the list at the right should be a table
2015-02-01 15:27:45	@J	yeah, it's on the todo list
2015-02-01 15:27:55	@J	plus I need to shorten the paths somehow
2015-02-01 15:27:57	@Espyo	I guess the two-widget style is more understandable
2015-02-01 15:28:02	@J	plus add results tabs
2015-02-01 15:28:06	@J	plus a million other things
2015-02-01 15:28:10	@Espyo	although you really can't do anything on the dropdown-only style except choose, so...
2015-02-01 15:28:15	@Espyo	not like there's a lot of room for confusion
2015-02-01 15:28:21	@Espyo	so I'd go with just a dropodown
2015-02-01 15:28:23	@Espyo	*dropdown
2015-02-01 15:28:24	@J	okay
2015-02-01 15:28:32	@J	the reason I changed is because less clicks
2015-02-01 15:28:40	@Espyo	it's the same number, really
2015-02-01 15:28:43	@Espyo	one click to —
2015-02-01 15:28:44	@Espyo	wait, no
2015-02-01 15:28:45	@Espyo	never mind
2015-02-01 15:28:55	@Espyo	yeah, less clicks, less bloat, it's always better
2015-02-01 15:28:57	@J	yep
2015-02-01 15:29:24	@Espyo	I slowly started understanding that overblown GUIs really confuse people, even when they don't look like they do
2015-02-01 15:29:28	@Espyo	that's why some tutorials fail
2015-02-01 15:29:32	@Espyo	they just dump info all at once
2015-02-01 15:29:42	@Espyo	if a person knows that the next thing they want to do is open a file
2015-02-01 15:29:47	@Espyo	but there are 30 buttons to open files
2015-02-01 15:29:50	@Espyo	they might as well give up
2015-02-01 15:29:53	@J	yeah
2015-02-01 15:30:09	@Espyo	that said, design is pretty fun
2015-02-01 15:30:13	@Espyo	pretty stressful, too
2015-02-01 15:30:21	@J	make it simple, while trying not to lose the features
2015-02-01 15:30:37	@J	yeah, I'm realising that I quite like design lately
2015-02-01 15:31:22	@Espyo	the more you understand what you should do when designing, the better it is
2015-02-01 15:31:39	@J	well, I made a release today, and my main plan for next release is Windows support
2015-02-01 15:31:57	@Espyo	hehehehe, good luck
2015-02-01 15:32:08	@J	I got a design book recently, actually, need to get around to reading that
2015-02-01 15:32:15	@Espyo	oh, nice
2015-02-01 15:32:24	@J	yeah, hopefully it won't be too much work, but you never know
2015-02-01 15:32:38	@J	I'll probably be looking for testers in a week or so
2015-02-01 15:33:48	@Espyo	okay
2015-02-01 15:34:17	@Espyo	inb4 my C:/ drive's files are all renamed to garbage
2015-02-01 15:34:35	@Espyo	there was a bug recently in some very big thing that deleted the / folder on Linux
2015-02-01 15:34:54	@J	really?
2015-02-01 15:35:03	@J	I mean, you can't delete /, just its contents
2015-02-01 15:35:07	@J	but I never heard of that
2015-02-01 15:35:27	@Espyo	rm -rf / usr/blabla/blabla
2015-02-01 15:35:33	@Espyo	the code was something like that ^
2015-02-01 15:35:38	Testyo	you cant there's no exe icon
2015-02-01 15:35:44	@J	thanks Testyo
2015-02-01 15:35:45	Testyo	it's legal enough, Nintendo barely cares, and if they do, we never added obstacle plants before
2015-02-01 15:35:58	@J	that looks so easy to do
2015-02-01 15:36:05	@Espyo	you can't rm -rf because rm doesn't have an .exe icon
2015-02-01 15:36:07	@Espyo	seems legit
2015-02-01 15:36:07	Yoshi2	would be interesting to have a feature that allows you to check which files/folders will be affected
2015-02-01 15:36:18	@Espyo	<J> that looks so easy to do
2015-02-01 15:36:19	@Espyo	precisely
2015-02-01 15:36:22	@Espyo	it's scary...
2015-02-01 15:37:20	Yoshi2	good point testy o, even if nintendo cares, all that counts is that we never added obstacle plants before
2015-02-01 15:38:26	@J	https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3671 this?
2015-02-01 15:38:42	@J	Yoshi2: what do you mean?
2015-02-01 15:39:18	@J	that's scary because I've tried to do that before (move the steam directory and create a link to it)
2015-02-01 15:39:35	@Espyo	uuuuhhh...
2015-02-01 15:39:41	@Espyo	I think it wasn't Steam
2015-02-01 15:39:42	@Espyo	it was something else
2015-02-01 15:39:58	@Espyo	...so that's TWO big things that had a "remove an important folder" problem
2015-02-01 15:41:09	Yoshi2	J: in case you manage to make a vague regex pattern or something like that, you can check which folders will be affected in the process
2015-02-01 15:42:52	@Espyo	oh, found it
2015-02-01 15:42:54	@Espyo	it was bumblebee
2015-02-01 15:43:26	@Espyo	https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee-Old-and-abbandoned/issues/123
2015-02-01 15:43:32	@Espyo	it's actually /usr
2015-02-01 15:47:03	@J	Yoshi2: the right panel previews what will happen; does that count?
2015-02-01 15:47:07	@J	[15:27:14] @J http://ikn.org.uk/imgs/farragone/main.png
2015-02-01 15:47:27	@J	I use bumblebee too
2015-02-01 15:47:32	@J	but not that long ago
2015-02-01 15:48:31	Yoshi2	J: does the preview appear before you start the renaming process?
2015-02-01 15:48:35	@J	yeah
2015-02-01 15:48:40	@J	it updates as you change stuff
2015-02-01 15:48:44	Yoshi2	ah, nice
2015-02-01 15:48:47	@J	yeah, sorry, I guess that looks like the output instead
2015-02-01 15:49:08	Yoshi2	heh, yeah, that's what I thought it looked like at first
2015-02-01 15:50:13	Yoshi2	but if it shows what will happen, then that is exactly what I meant
2015-02-01 15:50:56	@J	great
2015-02-01 15:51:15	@J	yeah, preview had to be in the first version
2015-02-01 15:51:21	@J	can't really do this without it
2015-02-01 15:53:51	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Toxic Toadstool by GoldenTriforce (+191 m For the merge) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Toxic_Toadstool&curid=1573&diff=144453&oldid=124452
2015-02-01 15:53:51	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Toxic Toadstool by GoldenTriforce (+12 m) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Toxic_Toadstool&curid=1573&diff=144454&oldid=144453
2015-02-01 15:53:51	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-02-01 16:00:19	@J	okay, for some reason, with this change to remove the 'add' buttons, pressing enter adds two of them
2015-02-01 16:00:26	@J	(clicking only adds one)
2015-02-01 16:00:45	@Espyo	hmmmm...
2015-02-01 16:00:47	@Espyo	Qt issue?
2015-02-01 16:06:15	@J	no idea
2015-02-01 16:06:21	@J	I'll deal with it later
2015-02-01 16:26:43	@J	https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-40807
2015-02-01 16:39:14	@Espyo	so it is
2015-02-01 16:41:18	@J	well, worked around it
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2015-02-01 16:56:18	Mariostar	I just found something amazing....
2015-02-01 16:57:36	Yoshi2	hello Mariostar 
2015-02-01 16:59:05	Mariostar	Yoshi,someguy on Miiverse publicly said their password
2015-02-01 16:59:35	Mariostar	Before they got their first ban from saying it in several places,l got a good half hour with it.
2015-02-01 17:01:37	Yoshi2	odd
2015-02-01 17:02:19	Mariostar	You want to try and get in,he's banned now,but i'll be back with it.
2015-02-01 17:02:38	Mariostar	When he doesn't expect it,i'll teach him about what he did.
2015-02-01 17:05:22	Mariostar	He was on at the same time,deleting my progress,but he's never going to be safe again... >:D
2015-02-01 17:05:54	Mariostar	* >: D
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2015-02-01 17:11:56	Yoshi2	oh man, that guy is a lot of trouble
2015-02-01 17:15:38	Yoshi2	Espyo: do you think I should've accepted his offer and received that person's password? :>
2015-02-01 17:17:19	@Espyo	:|
2015-02-01 17:18:07	Yoshi2	<Mariostar> u ont it
2015-02-01 17:18:07	Yoshi2	<Mariostar> u can haz it
2015-02-01 17:18:13	Yoshi2	from ~10 minutes ago
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2015-02-01 18:50:30	Testyo	and you had to figure mhm
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2015-02-01 19:43:03	Shard1	Good Day.
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2015-02-01 19:48:47	Shard1	Wow, that's inaccurate, it's the middle of the day in America
2015-02-01 19:55:22	Shard1	So, what's everyone up to?
2015-02-01 20:07:24	Yoshi2	preparing to go to bed soon
2015-02-01 20:07:31	Yoshi2	yay for different timezones!
2015-02-01 20:07:58	Shard1	I know, right? It's like 20:00 over there, right?
2015-02-01 20:08:09	Shard1	wait, 21:00
2015-02-01 20:09:04	Yoshi2	21 here
2015-02-01 20:09:12	Shard1	yup, thought so
2015-02-01 20:09:25	Shard1	In Europe, it's always 7 hours ahead
2015-02-01 20:09:40	Shard1	then, it's just a matter of changing it to military time
2015-02-01 20:14:49	@J	there are at least 3 timezones in Europe
2015-02-01 20:15:17	Yoshi2	yup
2015-02-01 20:15:21	Shard1	really?
2015-02-01 20:15:29	Yoshi2	similar to how the USA has several timezones
2015-02-01 20:15:53	Shard1	Oh yeah, because it's different in Washington than in New York
2015-02-01 20:16:42	Yoshi2	I think it ranges from UTC+0 to at least UTC+3, but don't quote me on that
2015-02-01 20:17:18	Shard1	I just remember how I figured out your time! The miiverse boot-up screen
2015-02-01 20:17:28	@J	Iceland is 0 I think, so that probably is the minimum
2015-02-01 20:17:32	Shard1	It's always seven hours ahead of my time
2015-02-01 20:18:47	Yoshi2	http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-europe12.php close enough
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2015-02-01 20:20:12	Shard1	Wait, are you in the UK or the main Europe?
2015-02-01 20:21:48	Yoshi2	central europe 
2015-02-01 20:22:39	Shard1	yeah, that's why I was right. I was right by accident
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2015-02-01 21:14:09	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Shaded Garden Remix by AeroBlaze777 (+2029 Merged... I think. Idk if I forgot something.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Shaded_Garden_Remix&curid=11624&diff=144459&oldid=143077
2015-02-01 21:29:26	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 3 by AeroBlaze777 (+1737 /* Blue pot skip / Early Quaggled Mireclops */ Added Oak backwards.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_3&curid=8429&diff=144460&oldid=144265
2015-02-01 21:29:26	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 3 by AeroBlaze777 (+3 m /* Formidable Oak backwards */ derp) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_3&curid=8429&diff=144461&oldid=144460
2015-02-01 21:34:32	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 3 by AeroBlaze777 (-91 m) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_3&curid=8429&diff=144462&oldid=144461
2015-02-01 21:44:43	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Talk:Pikmin Short Movies by Kirbyddd (+99) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Pikmin_Short_Movies&curid=18097&diff=144463&oldid=144458
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2015-02-01 22:18:12	@Espyo	J: 5:00 PST/6:00 MST/7:00 CST/8:00 EST
2015-02-01 22:18:13	Testyo	00 EST = 5 UTC / 7 CET
2015-02-01 22:18:17	@Espyo	he's ready at those times
2015-02-01 22:18:22	@Espyo	and because I just cannot understand timezones...
2015-02-01 22:18:25	@Espyo	you explain to me what those mean
2015-02-01 22:18:27	@Espyo	wait
2015-02-01 22:18:27	@Espyo	...
2015-02-01 22:18:30	@Espyo	Testyo is right here
2015-02-01 22:18:31	Testyo	I've had them for a while, and I just c+p from what I had, but I don't remember really effective, isn't it
2015-02-01 22:18:33	@Espyo	 8 EST
2015-02-01 22:18:34	Testyo	8 EST = 13 UTC / 15 CET
2015-02-01 22:18:37	@Espyo	...
2015-02-01 22:18:42	@Espyo	what's OUR timezone?
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2015-02-01 22:38:47	@J	...
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2015-02-02 14:35:04	Shard1	Hey guys
2015-02-02 14:35:15	Shard1	Club Nintendo of America finally added new rewards
2015-02-02 14:35:48	UltraSonic1	i know
2015-02-02 14:35:59	Shard1	But I can't seem to order anything
2015-02-02 14:36:21	UltraSonic1	wynaut?
2015-02-02 14:37:09	Shard1	the traffic is horrible, or there is maitenance, or Wario is taking my money
2015-02-02 14:37:28	UltraSonic1	lol
2015-02-02 14:37:37	UltraSonic1	o
2015-02-02 14:37:41	UltraSonic1	site maintenance for me
2015-02-02 14:38:23	--	UltraSonic1 is now known as UltraMario
2015-02-02 14:39:22	Shard1	I'm trying to get the Pikmin poster set
2015-02-02 14:41:09	UltraMario	damn
2015-02-02 14:41:17	UltraMario	i only have 615 coins
2015-02-02 14:41:20	UltraMario	idk what to et
2015-02-02 14:41:22	UltraMario	*get
2015-02-02 14:41:45	Shard1	Yeah, I only have 890
2015-02-02 14:43:13	Yoshi2	I have a lot of codes which I have little use for
2015-02-02 14:43:50	Shard1	are they region locked?
2015-02-02 14:44:48	Shard1	yeah, they are
2015-02-02 14:46:04	Yoshi2	stars and coins are likely not interchangable
2015-02-02 14:46:17	Shard1	yeah
2015-02-02 14:49:13	Shard1	so long....
2015-02-02 14:49:19	Shard1	so much waiting
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2015-02-02 14:53:36	Shard1	Dang it! I only need 10 more coins to get a game as well as those posters
2015-02-02 14:54:32	Yoshi2	they don't have that thing anymore, where you fill in a survey and you receive some points, do they?
2015-02-02 14:55:16	Shard1	They do
2015-02-02 14:55:22	Shard1	You can still register products
2015-02-02 14:56:54	Yoshi2	I remember how you could do that for other games and you'd receive 50 stars for each survey, or something like that
2015-02-02 14:57:30	Shard1	I'll be right back, just have to improve my browsers speed
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2015-02-02 15:56:10	Shard1	Club NIntendo is still down
2015-02-02 15:56:46	UltraMario	rip
2015-02-02 16:04:15	Yoshi2	Shard1: how do you even "improve [your] browsers speed"?
2015-02-02 16:06:06	Shard1	I have no idea. Just a stupid idea I guess
2015-02-02 16:06:10	Shard1	I just deletedd tabs
2015-02-02 16:06:14	Shard1	*deleted
2015-02-02 16:06:38	UltraMario	delete history
2015-02-02 16:06:39	UltraMario	duh
2015-02-02 16:07:02	Shard1	thanks!
2015-02-02 16:09:21	Shard1	I'm checking every half-hour now
2015-02-02 16:12:28	Shard1	If anybody else has any luck, can you tell me?
2015-02-02 16:14:42	UltraMario	i'm playing sanic
2015-02-02 16:15:40	Yoshi2	sanic the hedgehog?
2015-02-02 16:15:51	UltraMario	yup
2015-02-02 16:15:53	UltraMario	ugh
2015-02-02 16:15:55	UltraMario	I hate buzzbombers
2015-02-02 16:16:16	UltraMario	they swoop on the screen out of nowhere
2015-02-02 16:16:23	UltraMario	and freaking zap you with lemon shots
2015-02-02 16:16:25	Shard1	that really sucks
2015-02-02 16:16:39	UltraMario	they're especially annoying when you collect so many rings
2015-02-02 16:16:41	Shard1	It reminds me of those complete trolls in the cutman stage
2015-02-02 16:16:41	UltraMario	and THEN BAM
2015-02-02 16:17:07	UltraMario	the only time i've been able to 100% sonic 1 is with save states :<
2015-02-02 16:18:07	UltraMario	now i'm fighting robuttnik's checker wrecker ball
2015-02-02 16:19:04	UltraMario	won
2015-02-02 16:19:14	UltraMario	welp...
2015-02-02 16:19:18	UltraMario	TOO MARBLE ZONE
2015-02-02 16:19:19	 *	UltraMario sighs
2015-02-02 16:19:31	UltraMario	3rd worst level in the game
2015-02-02 16:20:14	UltraMario	quite the difficulty spike, that's for sure
2015-02-02 16:20:20	UltraMario	and quite the pace breaker
2015-02-02 16:20:41	UltraMario	you go from green hill, which is for the most part fast paced and has loop de loops
2015-02-02 16:20:49	UltraMario	to slow platforming over lava
2015-02-02 16:27:17	Shard1	What's the big deal with Majora's Mask?
2015-02-02 16:27:34	UltraMario	it's awesome
2015-02-02 16:27:36	UltraMario	that's what
2015-02-02 16:29:09	Shard1	No offense, but I'm not really a fan. (I've never played it anyway)
2015-02-02 16:29:38	UltraMario	uh
2015-02-02 16:29:43	UltraMario	how can you say you're not a fan
2015-02-02 16:29:47	UltraMario	when yo never played it?
2015-02-02 16:29:47	UltraMario	xP
2015-02-02 16:30:01	UltraMario	you're just neutral is what you mean
2015-02-02 16:30:05	Shard1	Well, I WANT to, but there's no way for me to play it 
2015-02-02 16:30:10	UltraMario	uh
2015-02-02 16:30:13	UltraMario	3ds?
2015-02-02 16:30:18	UltraMario	wii shop channel?
2015-02-02 16:30:18	UltraMario	:|
2015-02-02 16:30:20	Shard1	I don't have a 3DS
2015-02-02 16:30:26	UltraMario	oh
2015-02-02 16:30:28	Shard1	And I don't have a classic controller
2015-02-02 16:30:31	UltraMario	oh
2015-02-02 16:30:33	UltraMario	get one then :P
2015-02-02 16:30:42	UltraMario	or just play it on an emulator
2015-02-02 16:31:02	Shard1	ANNOUNCEMENT: Club Nintendo is back!!
2015-02-02 16:31:23	UltraMario	no it's not, it's discontinuing :P
2015-02-02 16:31:41	Shard1	I meant that it's back from maintenance
2015-02-02 16:31:57	UltraMario	yeah i know
2015-02-02 16:32:01	UltraMario	i was kiddin
2015-02-02 16:32:35	UltraMario	UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
2015-02-02 16:32:38	UltraMario	FUCK MARBLE ZONE
2015-02-02 16:32:43	UltraMario	>_<
2015-02-02 16:33:04	Shard1	What's persistence for?
2015-02-02 16:33:41	UltraMario	i am persistent
2015-02-02 16:33:53	UltraMario	it's just i hate how the special stages are designed
2015-02-02 16:33:59	UltraMario	meaning you have only 1 try
2015-02-02 16:34:18	Shard1	harsh
2015-02-02 16:34:22	UltraMario	or you're screwed of retrying that special stage until the next level
2015-02-02 16:35:19	Yoshi2	the big deal about MM 3DS is that it is a major remake of the original game, with better graphics, a framerate that isn't abysmal and some other things which I can't remember right now
2015-02-02 16:35:37	Yoshi2	and a lot of people who played MM liked it
2015-02-02 16:35:50	UltraMario	also swimming is easier
2015-02-02 16:35:52	Shard1	Yup, never played it, that's why I'm not exactly on the hype train
2015-02-02 16:36:04	UltraMario	which makes gyorg less up a pain
2015-02-02 16:36:23	UltraMario	don't you mean...
2015-02-02 16:36:30	UltraMario	A majorA remake? ;)
2015-02-02 16:36:35	Shard1	:P
2015-02-02 16:36:43	UltraMario	heh heh
2015-02-02 16:36:48	UltraMario	eh screw it
2015-02-02 16:36:59	Yoshi2	you are so punny today ;)
2015-02-02 16:37:07	UltraMario	i'll never be able to 100% sonic 1 or 2 without save states D:
2015-02-02 16:37:21	Yoshi2	I never played MM myself, and I'm still on the hype train
2015-02-02 16:37:25	Yoshi2	which has no brakes, btw
2015-02-02 16:37:33	Yoshi2	the hype train never has brakes
2015-02-02 16:37:42	UltraMario	until the game comes out
2015-02-02 16:37:46	UltraMario	then it does
2015-02-02 16:38:10	Shard1	Well, unless you don't have a 3DS
2015-02-02 16:39:02	Shard1	Backfire!
2015-02-02 16:39:08	Yoshi2	a 3DS is worth having
2015-02-02 16:40:21	Shard1	Yeah, I know, but I'm too busy getting other things like those 3 Amiibo that are extremely hard to get!!
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2015-02-02 16:41:41	Shard1	Did you guys know that some Americans can't even find the U.S.A on a map?
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2015-02-02 16:43:00	Yoshi2__	they forgot to look for "United States of America"?
2015-02-02 16:43:28	Shard1	No, they just can't even find it on a map
2015-02-02 16:43:36	Shard1	Some can't even find the Pacific ocean
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2015-02-02 16:44:32	Yoshi2__	odd
2015-02-02 16:44:46	Shard1	Well, I'm not really surprised
2015-02-02 16:45:32	Yoshi2__	the world is a big place, it can confuse some people
2015-02-02 16:45:48	Yoshi2__	although basic knowledge of geography would be nice to have
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2015-02-02 16:47:38	Shard1	I'm talking about Adults here
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2015-02-02 16:47:52	Yoshi2_	my connection is being horrible again :/
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2015-02-02 16:49:07	UltraMario	i don't think i could 100% any sonic game to be perfectly honest
2015-02-02 16:49:17	UltraMario	i mean the only sonic game i have 100%ed is sonic cd
2015-02-02 16:49:49	UltraMario	but that's only cuz i didn't play the special stages, but i went back in time in each zone and destroyed the generator things
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2015-02-02 16:57:05	Shard1	what do you guys think of Pilotwings?
2015-02-02 16:58:45	UltraMario	never played ut
2015-02-02 16:59:28	Shard1	what about Super Mario World?
2015-02-02 17:00:20	UltraMario	yeah
2015-02-02 17:00:22	UltraMario	pretty good
2015-02-02 17:00:27	UltraMario	how many coins do you have
2015-02-02 17:00:29	UltraMario	or stars
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2015-02-02 17:01:06	Shard1	Well, I need 10 more, but I can easily just buy a game off of the Eshop to get those 10
2015-02-02 17:03:06	Shard1	But out of all the items, what would you reccomend?
2015-02-02 17:05:50	Yoshi2	what items are available?
2015-02-02 17:06:07	Shard1	I'll give you a link
2015-02-02 17:06:17	Shard1	https://club.nintendo.com/rewards.do
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2015-02-02 17:08:40	Yoshi2	hmm, some of those physical rewards are quite neat
2015-02-02 17:09:29	Yoshi2	Golden Sun is an awesome RPG
2015-02-02 17:10:01	Yoshi2	odd that it has the same price as the nes titles
2015-02-02 17:10:50	Yoshi2	Wonderful 101 for 600 coins o.o
2015-02-02 17:11:05	Yoshi2	great game though
2015-02-02 17:11:13	Shard1	I'm really stuck in between the Messanger Bag and the Pikmin poster, with WWHD poster and Luigi poster
2015-02-02 17:11:17	UltraMario	game & wario is fun
2015-02-02 17:12:13	Yoshi2	I haven't heard a lot of good things about game & wario
2015-02-02 17:12:42	UltraMario	some people just dislike it for being different from the standard warioware games
2015-02-02 17:12:49	UltraMario	but i thought it was decent. :)
2015-02-02 17:13:45	Yoshi2	wonderful 101 is pretty good, if you don't mind that kind of gameplay
2015-02-02 17:14:27	Shard1	I need thoughts on the Messenger bag and the posters
2015-02-02 17:15:04	Yoshi2	whaaaat, a number of 3DS titles are there too
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2015-02-02 17:16:18	Yoshi2	the MM messenger bag is odd
2015-02-02 17:16:25	Yoshi2	a black image on a black bag
2015-02-02 17:16:32	Yoshi2	can't see anything unless you try
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2015-02-02 17:18:29	Yoshi2	the posters are, well, posters
2015-02-02 17:19:37	Yoshi2	I wonder how they look when hung on the wall
2015-02-02 17:20:22	Shard1	But what are the Platinum and Gold Elite Awards?
2015-02-02 17:21:22	Yoshi2	no idea
2015-02-02 17:21:55	Yoshi2	I wonder if NoE will offer similar awards in Europe
2015-02-02 17:22:06	Yoshi2	I wouldn't mind another free game :>
2015-02-02 17:22:19	Yoshi2	Shard1: how many coins does a single game give you in the USA?
2015-02-02 17:22:53	Shard1	About 60
2015-02-02 17:23:16	Yoshi2	ooooh
2015-02-02 17:23:26	Yoshi2	I need to check how many codes I have that are still valid
2015-02-02 17:24:10	Shard1	Hmm, I found the notes to Clock Town Day 1
2015-02-02 17:25:39	Yoshi2	I should probably just register some of them because the stars will likely not disappear before Club Nintendo is discontinued
2015-02-02 17:26:05	Shard1	Okay, so here's my final question: What should I get if I only have 890 coins?
2015-02-02 17:26:48	Yoshi2	the good news is that there is nothing you can't get if you only have 890 coins
2015-02-02 17:27:16	Shard1	yes...
2015-02-02 17:27:53	Yoshi2	what would you rather get, a physical item or a digital item (a game)?
2015-02-02 17:28:04	Shard1	I would, in all honesty, like to get both
2015-02-02 17:28:14	Shard1	But mostly a physical reward
2015-02-02 17:29:35	Yoshi2	the cheapest physical reward is 300 coins, and I think greeting cards are rather lame
2015-02-02 17:30:19	Shard1	yeah
2015-02-02 17:30:50	Shard1	How about I tell you what I don't want?
2015-02-02 17:30:54	Yoshi2	sure
2015-02-02 17:31:49	Shard1	Nothing 3DS related, no greeting cards, no Ultra Hand, no Smash posters, and no sports games
2015-02-02 17:33:08	Yoshi2	do you like extremely cute things? (i.e., animal crossing playing cards)
2015-02-02 17:34:10	Shard1	Umm, I really wouldn't like playing cards either
2015-02-02 17:34:22	Shard1	Now, if they were ZELDA playing cards....
2015-02-02 17:34:35	Yoshi2	indeed
2015-02-02 17:34:41	Yoshi2	zelda playing cards would be awesome
2015-02-02 17:34:55	Shard1	Yes, too bad you can only get the import version
2015-02-02 17:35:54	Yoshi2	that leaves us with a desktop calendar, a retro mario tshirt, three posters with retro luigi, Pikmin 3 and WWHD,a jigsaw puzzle and the messenger bag
2015-02-02 17:36:06	UltraMario	what about wii u games
2015-02-02 17:36:21	Yoshi2	if we only look at physical rewards
2015-02-02 17:37:55	Shard1	None of the full game particularly satisfy me except for Wii Fit U, but that doesn't come with a balance board or a meter.
2015-02-02 17:40:41	Yoshi2	are you interested in any of the GBA or SNES titles listed on the page?
2015-02-02 17:41:54	Yoshi2	I would be, but emulators nowadays can play those games pretty well on the phone
2015-02-02 17:42:18	Shard1	Besides Majoras mask, not really, but I don't have a classic controller
2015-02-02 17:42:21	UltraMario	>emulators
2015-02-02 17:42:36	UltraMario	support the companies dude. :/
2015-02-02 17:44:08	Yoshi2	the thing with the N64 titles is that they are only availabe on the Wii VC, which is too bad
2015-02-02 17:44:14	Shard1	yeah
2015-02-02 17:44:28	Shard1	when will Nintendo kick it up a notch and put THOSE on the Wii U
2015-02-02 17:44:45	Shard1	They already have Wii, so why not N64, which is two generations behind
2015-02-02 17:45:04	Yoshi2	UltraMario: *cough* *cough*
2015-02-02 17:45:13	UltraMario	:
2015-02-02 17:45:15	UltraMario	:|
2015-02-02 17:45:18	Yoshi2	I've been supporting Nintendo as well as I could
2015-02-02 17:46:17	Yoshi2	I've got quite a lot of DS and 3DS games
2015-02-02 17:46:27	UltraMario	too bad
2015-02-02 17:47:08	Shard1	WELL, I, for one, don't have a 3DS, so if Nintendo could maybe make more stuff for the Wii U, or maybe a Zelda Wii Remote... *Eye twitches*
2015-02-02 17:47:38	UltraMario	they already did make a zelda wii remote
2015-02-02 17:47:39	UltraMario	lol
2015-02-02 17:48:21	Yoshi2	when I think about it, the cost of my entire game collection is much higher than I expected
2015-02-02 17:48:21	Shard1	Yeah, but the only way to get that now is on Ebay. where the rip-offs live
2015-02-02 17:49:10	UltraMario	what about amazon
2015-02-02 17:49:43	Yoshi2	not everything offered on amazon is what it seems to be
2015-02-02 17:49:52	Shard1	75 dollars? I don't think so
2015-02-02 17:50:05	Shard1	Sorry, I don't know how to convert to Euro
2015-02-02 17:50:38	Yoshi2	that's around 60€
2015-02-02 17:50:45	Yoshi2	which is not TOO bad
2015-02-02 17:50:57	Yoshi2	I think new wii remotes go for 50€ in retail
2015-02-02 17:51:02	Shard1	They do
2015-02-02 17:52:09	Shard1	Maybe if Nintendo added an Ocarina to the list of Physical rewards in the NEW rewards program...
2015-02-02 17:53:51	Shard1	So, if I maybe bumped up my coins to 900, then what would you recommend getting?
2015-02-02 17:53:58	Yoshi2	there used to be a gold-coloured zelda statue for 15000 stars
2015-02-02 17:55:33	Shard1	Really?
2015-02-02 17:55:42	Yoshi2	indeed
2015-02-02 17:56:19	Yoshi2	pretty neat, but nowadays such a reward would be impossible to achieve
2015-02-02 17:56:52	Yoshi2	that's 60 games worth of stars
2015-02-02 17:57:04	Shard1	WOW
2015-02-02 17:58:34	Shard1	So, if I did get 900 coins, what would you recommend? 
2015-02-02 17:59:57	Yoshi2	well, if you chose the jigsaw puzzle or the bag, 100 coins would not be enough to buy anything else of worth
2015-02-02 18:00:05	Shard1	yeah
2015-02-02 18:00:48	Yoshi2	if you chose the calendar, you would have 500 coins left for ~2 games
2015-02-02 18:01:06	Shard1	Yeah but I really don't want the calander
2015-02-02 18:01:18	Yoshi2	thought so
2015-02-02 18:02:29	Shard1	wait, will there be more rewards or is this it?
2015-02-02 18:02:48	Yoshi2	if you took any of the 700 coins items, you would have 200 coins over which you could use to buy one game
2015-02-02 18:02:57	Yoshi2	no idea if there will be more rewards
2015-02-02 18:03:48	Shard1	probably not
2015-02-02 18:04:05	Shard1	since everybody is saying that these are the last rewards.
2015-02-02 18:04:09	Yoshi2	the digital rewards probably will not become any better than this
2015-02-02 18:04:14	Shard1	But it's the elite rewards that have me wondering
2015-02-02 18:04:48	Shard1	Will there be any?
2015-02-02 18:05:10	Yoshi2	no idea
2015-02-02 18:06:02	Shard1	It's not as if I can get 190 more coins in this short amount of time
2015-02-02 18:06:48	Yoshi2	it is probably worth looking or asking around in bigger nintendo fan communities e.g. on reddit
2015-02-02 18:11:50	Yoshi2	https://www.reddit.com/r/Club_Nintendo/comments/2uif8x/do_you_think_elite_awards_are_going_to_be_the/ looks like other people are unsure too
2015-02-02 18:14:15	Yoshi2	apparently there are a number of free games you can download to get a few more coins
2015-02-02 18:14:28	Yoshi2	https://www.reddit.com/r/Club_Nintendo/comments/2uco1l/chart_documenting_free_eshop_games_that_grant/
2015-02-02 18:15:52	Shard1	So, what should I get?
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2015-02-02 18:23:46	Shard1	I'm too busy debating between the messenger bag and the posters.
2015-02-02 18:27:52	Yoshi2	what would speak for the posters is the fact that you could also get one of the VC games, like Yoshi's Island, Golden Sun, SMW, Super Metroid, Super Mario Bros
2015-02-02 18:28:31	Yoshi2	there is also Art Style: CUBELLO, which I guess is a Wii indie title and also costs only 200 coins
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2015-02-02 18:44:23	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-02-02 18:46:35	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-02-02 18:46:35	Testyo	because in Portugal, it's a comma, but it can also happen that the IRC network sucks
2015-02-02 18:49:30	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-02 18:50:44	Yoshi2	A piece of wisdom from testyo
2015-02-02 18:50:44	Testyo	The number is oh
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2015-02-02 20:19:22	@PikFan	hi
2015-02-02 20:19:32	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-02 20:19:34	@PikFan	I actually exist for once
2015-02-02 20:20:16	@PikFan	so I'm inactive because my laptop has bit the dust, and using mobile just sucks
2015-02-02 20:20:32	@Espyo	drat
2015-02-02 20:22:43	@PikFan	so Kirby still prefers wikia, hmm?
2015-02-02 20:23:19	@PikFan	why can he not understand that staying on wikia undermines the VERY REASON WE MOVED IN THE FIRST PLACE
2015-02-02 20:23:50	@PikFan	he must have a mental issue...
2015-02-02 20:23:51	@Espyo	we need to talk to him
2015-02-02 20:24:06	@Espyo	he does bring up a fair point...
2015-02-02 20:24:16	@Espyo	people will obviously come to the wikia first
2015-02-02 20:24:21	@Espyo	and if they see it run down
2015-02-02 20:24:22	@PikFan	right
2015-02-02 20:24:24	@Espyo	they'll just think Pikmin fans suck
2015-02-02 20:24:46	@PikFan	but we need to tell them that it isn't the official host
2015-02-02 20:24:59	@PikFan	the official host is Pikipedia, not Pikmin Wiki
2015-02-02 20:25:39	@PikFan	if wikia cooperates (0.0000000000001% chance of that happening) then we can guide users away from wikia
2015-02-02 20:25:47	@Espyo	he knows that
2015-02-02 20:26:21	@PikFan	then why does he choose to stay?
2015-02-02 20:26:43	@Espyo	because of the points he makes
2015-02-02 20:26:48	@Espyo	to upkeep the wiki for visitors
2015-02-02 20:27:17	@PikFan	I understand that, but still
2015-02-02 20:27:40	@PikFan	(maybe I don't understand if I say "but still")
2015-02-02 20:28:10	@PikFan	ultimately, we can't force him to come to Pikipedia
2015-02-02 20:28:30	@Espyo	it's all a big mess
2015-02-02 20:28:34	@PikFan	we can certainly try to persuade him
2015-02-02 20:28:34	@Espyo	we want people to come to Pikipedia
2015-02-02 20:28:44	@Espyo	but we can't just cover our ears over the fact that wikia exists
2015-02-02 20:28:47	@Espyo	ears or eyes
2015-02-02 20:28:51	@Espyo	and/or
2015-02-02 20:28:53	@Espyo	which is still a boolean or
2015-02-02 20:28:55	@Espyo	hmm...
2015-02-02 20:29:01	Yoshi2	lalalalaa, wikia doesn't exist, lalalala
2015-02-02 20:29:06	@PikFan	I don't agree with JPMRocks' threat though
2015-02-02 20:29:35	@PikFan	yeah, it's annoying if he wants to stay, but he shouldn't have to be banned for it
2015-02-02 20:30:09	@Espyo	they're trying desperate measures
2015-02-02 20:30:56	@PikFan	when push comes to shove...
2015-02-02 20:32:43	@PikFan	okay, going now, going to be on another webpage... and if I'm there too long I'll disconnect, so I'll just go now
2015-02-02 20:32:46	@PikFan	bye
2015-02-02 20:32:49	@Espyo	bue
2015-02-02 20:32:50	@Espyo	*y
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2015-02-02 20:47:44	Yoshi2_	Espyo: have you tried suggesting PikFan to use an irc client on the phone?
2015-02-02 20:47:58	@Espyo	didn't even come to me
2015-02-02 20:49:59	Yoshi2_	I never thought about it either until now
2015-02-02 20:50:32	Yoshi2_	because "and if I'm there too long I'll disconnect" is something that can be fixed by using a separate application for IRC 
2015-02-02 20:50:46	Yoshi2_	I'll try asking him if I don't forget about it
2015-02-02 20:51:03	 *	Yoshi2_ writes down a notice
2015-02-02 20:52:44	@Espyo	yeah
2015-02-02 20:53:40	Yoshi2_	windows' notices are suprisingly useful, especially because I can put them all over my desktop which means I am more likely to, well, notice them
2015-02-02 20:55:40	Yoshi2_	I'll take a nap now, good night 
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2015-02-03 00:03:43	Waterpikmin	hello
2015-02-03 00:04:18	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-03 00:04:22	@Espyo	bad time, though
2015-02-03 00:04:23	@Espyo	going to bed now
2015-02-03 00:04:24	@Espyo	goodnight
2015-02-03 00:04:35	Waterpikmin	ok! talk to you later?
2015-02-03 00:04:48	@Espyo	talk to you later
2015-02-03 00:04:53	Waterpikmin	k! bye!
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2015-02-03 19:19:55	Testyo	Greetings everyone!
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2015-02-03 19:21:25	Yoshi2	hey Testyo & Espyo 
2015-02-03 19:21:26	Testyo	alright, this LOCK day
2015-02-03 19:23:38	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-03 19:23:44	@Espyo	CAPS lock day?
2015-02-03 19:31:41	@J	what a lock day
2015-02-03 19:32:43	Yoshi2	testyo graces us with his wisdom
2015-02-03 19:32:44	Testyo	amazing crazy
2015-02-03 19:34:40	@Espyo	"amazing crazy"
2015-02-03 19:34:47	@Espyo	that's how I'd describe Testyo
2015-02-03 19:34:47	Testyo	what are exclusive to that area
2015-02-03 19:36:23	@J	wow
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2015-02-03 22:37:59	Testyo	nonetheless, it was don't throw lots of pikmin at him to bring him down to earth
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2015-02-03 22:53:31	Shard1	Oh, well, hello! Just had a major lag
2015-02-03 22:59:05	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-03 22:59:25	Shard1	how's it going?
2015-02-03 23:00:07	@Espyo	pretty good
2015-02-03 23:00:08	@Espyo	you?
2015-02-03 23:01:06	Shard1	also good, except I could do with some more sheet music
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2015-02-03 23:02:17	Mariostar	Hey.
2015-02-03 23:02:51	Shard1	hello
2015-02-03 23:03:24	Mariostar	Could you tell me this guy is mad? https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHiixUfA-w
2015-02-03 23:05:20	Shard1	What is it with people making un-related posts in the communities
2015-02-03 23:05:47	Mariostar	I find it more about how he's going off-topic to what l originally said
2015-02-03 23:06:06	Shard1	?
2015-02-03 23:06:26	Mariostar	Seriously,l how does anything l say lead to "well games u have but i dont dosnt mean i have them".
2015-02-03 23:06:33	Mariostar	D' hell did l say?
2015-02-03 23:07:00	Shard1	Well, the only comments there are HIS.
2015-02-03 23:07:18	Mariostar	He must have deleted mine.
2015-02-03 23:07:23	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pondering Emblem by GoldenTriforce (+1) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pondering_Emblem&curid=1228&diff=144484&oldid=139810
2015-02-03 23:07:23	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pondering Emblem by GoldenTriforce (+13) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pondering_Emblem&curid=1228&diff=144485&oldid=144484
2015-02-03 23:07:47	Mariostar	Triforce. :D
2015-02-03 23:07:52	Shard1	I'm really not helping out on Pikipedia.....
2015-02-03 23:08:13	Mariostar	I haven't ever made a page on here....l think.
2015-02-03 23:08:25	Mariostar	l made one page,but fucked it up.
2015-02-03 23:08:25	Testyo	Hey, don't swear!
2015-02-03 23:08:51	Mariostar	But...l thought l could,robot. D;
2015-02-03 23:09:12	Shard1	What robot??
2015-02-03 23:09:43	Mariostar	Testyo.
2015-02-03 23:09:44	Testyo	so I'm not quite sure how I wrote that sounds about right
2015-02-03 23:10:17	Shard1	Is he a robot?
2015-02-03 23:10:19	Mariostar	So he uses I in I'm but not to start a sentence.
2015-02-03 23:10:24	Mariostar	Yes.
2015-02-03 23:10:44	Shard1	You sure?
2015-02-03 23:10:50	Mariostar	Yes.
2015-02-03 23:10:58	Mariostar	0.1
2015-02-03 23:11:04	Mariostar	0.1m
2015-02-03 23:11:04	Testyo	0.1 m = 0.10936 yd / 0.32808 ft / 5.26316 Olimar-heights
2015-02-03 23:11:08	Mariostar	See.
2015-02-03 23:11:34	Shard1	Well, that 5.26316 Olimar heights is crazy
2015-02-03 23:11:37	Shard1	Let's try this
2015-02-03 23:11:41	Shard1	3.9 cm
2015-02-03 23:11:41	Testyo	3.9 cm = 1.53582 in / 0.12792 ft / 2.05263 Olimar-heights
2015-02-03 23:11:43	Mariostar	0.6cm
2015-02-03 23:11:43	Testyo	0.6 cm = 0.23628 in / 0.01968 ft / 0.31579 Olimar-heights
2015-02-03 23:11:48	Shard1	Hmm
2015-02-03 23:11:52	Shard1	1.6 cm
2015-02-03 23:11:53	Testyo	1.6 cm = 0.63008 in / 0.05248 ft / 0.842106 Olimar-heights
2015-02-03 23:11:57	Shard1	2 cm
2015-02-03 23:11:58	Testyo	2 cm = 0.7876 in / 0.0656 ft / 1.05263 Olimar-heights
2015-02-03 23:11:59	Mariostar	9001m
2015-02-03 23:12:00	Testyo	9001 m = 9843.49 yd / 29530.5 ft / 473737 Olimar-heights
2015-02-03 23:12:03	Shard1	1.9 cm
2015-02-03 23:12:03	Testyo	1.9 cm = 0.74822 in / 0.06232 ft / 1 Olimar-heights
2015-02-03 23:12:12	Shard1	Olimar, is 1.9 centimeters!
2015-02-03 23:12:13	Testyo	1.9 centimeters = 0.74822 in / 0.06232 ft / 1 Olimar-heights
2015-02-03 23:12:18	Shard1	Mystery solved!
2015-02-03 23:12:28	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pondering Emblem by GoldenTriforce (+1) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pondering_Emblem&curid=1228&diff=144486&oldid=144485
2015-02-03 23:12:28	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pondering Emblem by GoldenTriforce (-38) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pondering_Emblem&curid=1228&diff=144487&oldid=144486
2015-02-03 23:12:28	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-02-03 23:12:43	Shard1	Hey Espyo?
2015-02-03 23:12:53	@Espyo	yeah?
2015-02-03 23:13:05	Shard1	Is it bad that I've only made one contribution?
2015-02-03 23:13:10	@Espyo	not really
2015-02-03 23:13:18	@Espyo	being part of the community isn't just "work day and night on the wiki"
2015-02-03 23:13:26	@Espyo	just chill around with people who like Pikmin
2015-02-03 23:13:34	@Espyo	this chat is about the wiki, but honestly, it's more about Pikmin
2015-02-03 23:13:39	@Espyo	and most of the time, random things, too
2015-02-03 23:13:48	Mariostar	Dem little blue,rock,purple....buggers...
2015-02-03 23:13:49	Shard1	Well, that Captain Charlie trivia that flew over everybody elses head was pretty good
2015-02-03 23:14:07	Mariostar	Alph,Brittany,Charlie,Drake.
2015-02-03 23:14:19	Shard1	I guess character D WAS in the game
2015-02-03 23:14:31	Mariostar	Dick?
2015-02-03 23:14:41	Shard1	:l
2015-02-03 23:15:42	Mariostar	:]
2015-02-03 23:15:56	Mariostar	l'm on a HTML5 browser.
2015-02-03 23:16:24	Shard1	I made some pretty cool screenshots https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzS88xjgVa8PXeW
2015-02-03 23:16:50	Shard1	https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/ss/zlCfzS884zIb7L-2mX
2015-02-03 23:16:52	Mariostar	I have the DLC bundle.
2015-02-03 23:17:02	Shard1	But why aren't they in HD?
2015-02-03 23:17:07	Mariostar	https://miiverse.nintendo.net/users/Mariosrar123u
2015-02-03 23:17:21	Mariostar	You press Gamepad?
2015-02-03 23:17:32	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Pondering Emblem by AeroBlaze777 (-3) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pondering_Emblem&curid=1228&diff=144489&oldid=144488
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2015-02-03 23:18:06	Shard1	No, the images aren't HD.
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2015-02-03 23:19:05	Shard1	Does anybody else here play an instrument?
2015-02-03 23:19:18	Mariostir	Me...kinda.
2015-02-03 23:19:29	Mariostir	https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAAAEVHhimmuX8A
2015-02-03 23:21:50	Shard1	This is going to sound really dumb, but what does that star mean?
2015-02-03 23:21:59	Mariostir	Where?
2015-02-03 23:22:09	Shard1	next to the username
2015-02-03 23:22:23	Mariostir	*shrugs shoulders*
2015-02-03 23:22:52	Shard1	it apparently means op...
2015-02-03 23:23:12	Mariostir	Oh,in this chat,yeah,means administrator thing.
2015-02-03 23:23:23	Mariostir	They can kick and ban users.
2015-02-03 23:23:59	Shard1	the guy who voiced tingle voiced Ganondorf in TP
2015-02-03 23:24:28	Mariostir	Christ....
2015-02-03 23:24:46	Mariostir	Majora or WW?
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2015-02-03 23:25:33	Shard1	hmm, only WW
2015-02-03 23:26:03	Shard1	Does anybody else like Star Wars?
2015-02-03 23:29:35	Shard1	Hey Espyo, have you finally seen the Pikmin Shorts yet?
2015-02-03 23:29:50	@Espyo	not yet...
2015-02-03 23:29:56	@Espyo	I never find a quick break to buy and watch them
2015-02-03 23:30:22	@Espyo	<Shard1> Does anybody else here play an instrument?
2015-02-03 23:30:27	@Espyo	I can kinda play the recorder
2015-02-03 23:30:31	@Espyo	not anywhere near professional though
2015-02-03 23:30:57	Shard1	Hmm, well, I'm going to be learning violin soon
2015-02-03 23:31:25	Shard1	https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHii0iBicA
2015-02-03 23:31:31	Shard1	That is a hilarious post
2015-02-03 23:32:27	Shard1	Hey, what's bremens march?
2015-02-03 23:32:53	@Espyo	isn't that from Majora's Mask?
2015-02-03 23:33:45	Shard1	I have no idea. I'm just looking at this sheet music: http://www.zeldacapital.com/sheet.php
2015-02-03 23:35:18	@Espyo	yeah, the Bremen's march is a jingle that plays when you use the Bremen mask (not sure if that's the name of the mask)
2015-02-03 23:35:22	@Espyo	it allows Link to command young animals
2015-02-03 23:35:38	Shard1	That is actually kind of weird
2015-02-03 23:35:52	Shard1	What does marzial even mean?
2015-02-03 23:36:41	Shard1	Have any of you played The Wonderful 101?
2015-02-03 23:36:54	@Espyo	not yet
2015-02-03 23:37:01	@Espyo	and I never heard of "marzial"
2015-02-03 23:37:28	Shard1	It's apparently a musical term
2015-02-03 23:37:49	@Espyo	hmm
2015-02-03 23:38:11	Shard1	It doesn't come up when I google it
2015-02-03 23:43:26	Shard1	I hate it when somebody does this: https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHii03baWA 
2015-02-03 23:44:20	@Espyo	yeah...
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2015-02-03 23:46:32	Shard1	YES! I played the whole Oath to Order in one breath! http://www.zeldacapital.com/Zelda%20Sheet%20Music%20for%20Clarinet/Oath%20to%20Order.pdf
2015-02-03 23:48:05	@Espyo	good job
2015-02-03 23:48:54	Shard1	It probably doesn't seem like much to other people and how do you get that blue font?
2015-02-03 23:49:07	@Espyo	I have a script that automatically paints my text
2015-02-03 23:49:14	@Espyo	although you can click on "Color" below the box where you write the text
2015-02-03 23:49:19	@Espyo	and it changes your text color too
2015-02-03 23:49:35	Shard1	Can I have it like you do so that it changes automatically?
2015-02-03 23:50:12	@Espyo	you'll need something better than Mibbit, which is what you're using
2015-02-03 23:50:26	@Espyo	a different program that can be used to chat on IRC channels
2015-02-03 23:50:32	Shard1	Oh
2015-02-03 23:50:34	@Espyo	it might not be worth the trouble unless you go on loads of IRC channels
2015-02-03 23:50:44	Shard1	Hey! It works!
2015-02-03 23:50:51	Shard1	Now everything is blue
2015-02-03 23:53:50	Shard1	So, what's going on?
2015-02-03 23:54:20	Megamario15	nothing much
2015-02-03 23:58:13	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Fiery Bulblax by AeroBlaze777 (+29 /* Trivia */ Need the rock pikmin to defeat mawdad as well.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Fiery_Bulblax&curid=472&diff=144494&oldid=137967
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2015-02-04 17:28:05	Mariostar	Hello,anyone here?
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2015-02-04 17:31:24	Mariostar	I'm in the best argument ever. :D
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2015-02-04 18:51:37	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2015-02-04 19:25:47	@J	hey, Espyo, I was wondering, how do you feel about the fact that I don't edit any more?
2015-02-04 19:25:59	@J	I mean, I guess I wouldn't've stopped if you weren't here
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2015-02-04 19:44:57	Yoshi2	hey Testyo 
2015-02-04 19:44:57	Testyo	first I changed the Garden of Hope, there is a overturned plant pot made of Fragments; when finished, it is used as a platform to throw leaders across."
2015-02-04 19:50:01	@J	hi
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2015-02-04 20:02:26	@Espyo	<J> I mean, I guess I wouldn't've stopped if you weren't here
2015-02-04 20:02:33	@Espyo	I don't really fancy quintiple-negatives
2015-02-04 20:02:38	@Espyo	or rather, my mind doesn't
2015-02-04 20:02:42	@Espyo	also hi Yos--
2015-02-04 20:02:42	@Espyo	oh
2015-02-04 20:02:58	@Espyo	anyway, it saddens me that you basically don't edit much
2015-02-04 20:03:05	@Espyo	but that's only because you're busy with your own things
2015-02-04 20:03:09	@Espyo	not so much because you just decided to give up
2015-02-04 20:03:12	@Espyo	so that leaves me at ease
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2015-02-04 21:23:21	@J	yep
2015-02-04 21:23:25	@J	I am best admin
2015-02-04 21:42:42	@Espyo	well, you're 1% less dead than the other admins
2015-02-04 21:42:55	@Espyo	so besides me... yeah, you are the best admin
2015-02-04 21:43:30	@J	that's quite sad
2015-02-04 21:51:53	@Espyo	well, we're not really needing any extreme importance things
2015-02-04 21:52:01	@Espyo	so as long as you act as support when needed, that's enough
2015-02-04 21:54:15	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:PlatinumFanfare.ogg uploaded by AeroBlaze777 (The fanfare that plays when a Mission Mode level is completed and a Platinum Med...) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:PlatinumFanfare.ogg
2015-02-04 21:55:59	Testyo	well, that ohhh
2015-02-04 21:59:18	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Mission Mode by AeroBlaze777 (+94 /* Rankings */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Mission_Mode&curid=16414&diff=144497&oldid=144124
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2015-02-04 22:00:29	Shard1	There we go! Last time, the thing wouldn't load
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2015-02-04 22:25:42	@J	http://blog.codinghorror.com/ascii-pronunciation-rules-for-programmers/
2015-02-04 22:25:44	@J	strudel
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2015-02-04 22:35:59	@Espyo	soldier
2015-02-04 22:36:14	@Espyo	double-glitch?
2015-02-04 22:36:19	@Espyo	I'm sure some games have double-glitches
2015-02-04 22:40:46	@Espyo	interesting
2015-02-04 22:40:50	@Espyo	calling a comma a cedilla
2015-02-04 22:40:56	@Espyo	this is a C with a cedilla: Ç
2015-02-04 22:41:06	@Espyo	it's very much not a comma, though it looks the same almost
2015-02-04 22:43:22	@J	I always drew them more like upside-down question marks
2015-02-04 22:43:27	@J	cedillas, not commas
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2015-02-04 22:50:46	@Espyo	hmmm...
2015-02-04 23:07:46	@Espyo	okay, I'm gonna revamp the news feed on the front page
2015-02-04 23:07:50	@Espyo	http://www.pikminwiki.com/Pikipedia:Sandbox how's this look?
2015-02-04 23:21:02	@J	will it go inside the news box, or replace it?
2015-02-04 23:21:16	@Espyo	inside the box
2015-02-04 23:21:30	@Espyo	I tried having {{titled box}} on the sandbox, but it doesn't really like receiving a table as a parameter
2015-02-04 23:21:31	Testyo	"titled_box" template = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:titled_box
2015-02-04 23:21:51	@J	I think it might look weird with the slightly different background colours
2015-02-04 23:22:14	@Espyo	ah, good point
2015-02-04 23:22:16	@Espyo	let me give it a spin
2015-02-04 23:24:13	@J	see my edit
2015-02-04 23:24:56	@J	so yeah, maybe just hide all borders but the ones between items
2015-02-04 23:24:56	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Main Page by Greenpickle (-586) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=1&diff=144500&oldid=144341
2015-02-04 23:24:59	@J	and have no BG
2015-02-04 23:25:05	@J	otherwise it looks fine
2015-02-04 23:25:16	@J	not sure why we need bullets - likely to have > 1 thing per day?
2015-02-04 23:25:26	@Espyo	...you replaced the main page
2015-02-04 23:25:28	@Espyo	not the sandbox
2015-02-04 23:25:32	@J	no
2015-02-04 23:25:33	@J	...
2015-02-04 23:25:34	@J	wow
2015-02-04 23:25:52	@Espyo	anyway, I've added the box http://www.pikminwiki.com/Pikipedia:Sandbox
2015-02-04 23:26:25	@Espyo	oh, I didn't think of >1 thing per day, but I tried without bullets first, and it was just so bland
2015-02-04 23:27:02	@J	okay, well you just needed to replace all the | with {{!}}
2015-02-04 23:27:02	Testyo	"!" template = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:!
2015-02-04 23:27:13	@J	except those in templates and links (ie. just the table ones)
2015-02-04 23:27:49	@Espyo	I'll probably create a {{news item}} template
2015-02-04 23:27:49	Testyo	"news_item" template = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:news_item
2015-02-04 23:27:56	@Espyo	there's a lot of CSS this time around, too much to copy+paste every time
2015-02-04 23:29:26	@J	maybe try indenting the first line of the paragraph instead of a bullet?
2015-02-04 23:29:36	@J	I don't know, I see what you're saying, but itjust seems weird
2015-02-04 23:29:41	@J	*it just
2015-02-04 23:29:49	@Espyo	(ironic asterisk)
2015-02-04 23:29:55	@Espyo	yeah, I'll try
2015-02-04 23:29:57	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Main Page by Greenpickle (+586 I am a bad person) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&curid=1&diff=144502&oldid=144500
2015-02-04 23:30:39	@Espyo	...I think the only way to indent the first line is to do some nasty CSS work
2015-02-04 23:30:47	@Espyo	the unsupported type
2015-02-04 23:30:53	@J	still?
2015-02-04 23:30:57	@Espyo	like -moz-first-line-indent or something equally weird
2015-02-04 23:30:59	@J	I thought it was fairly old now
2015-02-04 23:31:07	@Espyo	I could be wrong
2015-02-04 23:31:10	@Espyo	but hey, it wouldn't surprise me
2015-02-04 23:31:24	@J	https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/text-indent
2015-02-04 23:31:37	@Espyo	ah, good
2015-02-04 23:31:52	@J	supported in Firefox 1
2015-02-04 23:32:41	@J	anyway, I should sleep now, bye
2015-02-04 23:32:42	@Espyo	http://www.pikminwiki.com/Pikipedia:Sandbox
2015-02-04 23:32:43	@Espyo	bye
2015-02-04 23:32:54	@J	hmm, maybe
2015-02-04 23:33:05	@Espyo	seems a bit too tall, I'll try making the date + tag text smaller
2015-02-05 00:16:17	@Espyo	Testyo: memo http://www.pikminwiki.com/Main_Page
2015-02-05 00:16:20	@Espyo	ops
2015-02-05 00:16:21	@Espyo	*oops
2015-02-05 00:16:26	@Espyo	Testyo: memo J http://www.pikminwiki.com/Main_Page
2015-02-05 00:16:27	Testyo	Done, I saved a memo for J saying: http://www.pikminwiki.com/Main_Page.
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2015-02-05 01:16:48	Megamario15	hi ultra
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2015-02-05 18:54:26	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2015-02-05 19:07:30	Mariostar	Hey.
2015-02-05 19:07:48	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-05 19:08:08	Mariostar	Hey Espyo,did you get the Monster hunter demo?
2015-02-05 19:08:14	@Espyo	nope
2015-02-05 19:08:24	Mariostar	I'm playing online with it.
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2015-02-05 19:08:34	Waterpikmin	hello?
2015-02-05 19:08:51	Mariostar	Trying to ask peopleon Miiverse to join me so l can use a keyboard while playing.
2015-02-05 19:09:04	Waterpikmin	?
2015-02-05 19:09:11	Waterpikmin	playing what?
2015-02-05 19:09:44	Mariostar	MH4U demo
2015-02-05 19:09:57	Waterpikmin	i could play if u want
2015-02-05 19:10:02	Mariostar	Want to use the keyboard to comunicate
2015-02-05 19:10:05	Waterpikmin	ill go and get the demo
2015-02-05 19:10:09	Waterpikmin	sure this is fine
2015-02-05 19:10:11	Mariostar	Really,thanks. :D
2015-02-05 19:10:24	Mariostar	It's unlimited,like the pokémon one.
2015-02-05 19:10:24	Waterpikmin	no prob! i love to play with new ppl!
2015-02-05 19:10:29	Waterpikmin	sweet!
2015-02-05 19:10:34	Waterpikmin	ill brb
2015-02-05 19:11:02	Mariostar	I'm using my friends 3DS,mines broke,getting the New 3DS a week after laubch,l'll add you on it.
2015-02-05 19:11:39	Waterpikmin	sounds good!
2015-02-05 19:11:53	Waterpikmin	so i cannot believe they are making more pikmin games
2015-02-05 19:12:02	Mariostar	And l'll have a game l can use the C-pad+ built in to my advantage. :D
2015-02-05 19:12:12	Mariostar	Dem films do'.
2015-02-05 19:12:28	Waterpikmin	i know! im getting it for my birthday which is 5 days after launch!
2015-02-05 19:12:29	Mariostar	Espyo,is a page here fpr the Pikmin shorts?
2015-02-05 19:12:33	@Espyo	of course
2015-02-05 19:12:38	@Espyo	[[Pikmin Short Movies]]
2015-02-05 19:12:38	Testyo	"Pikmin_Short_Movies" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Pikmin_Short_Movies
2015-02-05 19:12:45	Mariostar	: D
2015-02-05 19:13:00	Waterpikmin	the pikmin shorts are so awesome
2015-02-05 19:13:08	Mariostar	The passcode to join me is 5896 by the way.
2015-02-05 19:13:27	Mariostar	You'll understand when you try to join me.
2015-02-05 19:13:35	Waterpikmin	ok i need to download it quickly 
2015-02-05 19:13:44	Mariostar	No friendcode needed,just that code.
2015-02-05 19:14:09	Mariostar	choose beginner,online,easy,top option,type that code in.
2015-02-05 19:14:12	Waterpikmin	but i actually think they will add a cooperative experience to the game ( story mode of course
2015-02-05 19:14:31	Mariostar	Are you a noob? l am.
2015-02-05 19:14:53	Waterpikmin	ive played three a bit
2015-02-05 19:15:55	Mariostar	Ok.
2015-02-05 19:16:19	Mariostar	l've played online twice on here,and forgotten about playing MH3
2015-02-05 19:16:29	Mariostar	How's the download going?
2015-02-05 19:16:49	Waterpikmin	i need to find my 3ds lol
2015-02-05 19:17:22	Mariostar	....ok.
2015-02-05 19:17:56	Waterpikmin	ok i found it and im starting to get to it
2015-02-05 19:18:28	Waterpikmin	am i the only one that has the pikmin theme for their 3ds?
2015-02-05 19:18:43	Waterpikmin	or am i just one of them?
2015-02-05 19:20:06	Mariostar	I don't know what theme to get out of 25m or Sanic.
2015-02-05 19:20:07	Testyo	25 m = 27.34 yd / 82.02 ft / 1315.79 Olimar-heights
2015-02-05 19:20:37	Mariostar	You foud it yet?
2015-02-05 19:20:47	Waterpikmin	found it!
2015-02-05 19:21:04	Waterpikmin	how is the game? by the way?
2015-02-05 19:21:11	Mariostar	well,all l'm going to say now isGET THAT MOFO!
2015-02-05 19:21:26	Mariostar	Amazing,just for the online alone.
2015-02-05 19:21:43	Waterpikmin	that sounds like a great game!
2015-02-05 19:21:52	Mariostar	It's not in the demo section,but you'll find it.
2015-02-05 19:22:30	Mariostar	l'll probably not buy MH4U,this demo is enough for me,thanks to online,also why l don't own all of Subwars.
2015-02-05 19:22:43	Waterpikmin	i wanted to ask someone this
2015-02-05 19:22:54	Waterpikmin	what do you think pikmin 4 will be like?
2015-02-05 19:23:06	Waterpikmin	im sorta mixed on the answer
2015-02-05 19:23:11	Mariostar	*shrugs shoulders*
2015-02-05 19:23:24	Waterpikmin	i really want to see a coop story
2015-02-05 19:23:33	Mariostar	l just want old areas,no new Pikmin.
2015-02-05 19:24:04	Waterpikmin	in an interview, miyamoto stated that he wants it to be the reason on why people buy the wii u
2015-02-05 19:24:08	Mariostar	a multiplayer with Alph,Brittany,Charlie,Olimar,Louie and the president.
2015-02-05 19:24:25	Waterpikmin	so it will be a huge focus for them in the future
2015-02-05 19:24:26	Mariostar	*cough* Smash bros.
2015-02-05 19:24:36	Waterpikmin	i know...
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2015-02-05 19:25:04	Waterpikmin	its sad because olimar was so good in brawl and now hes just okay
2015-02-05 19:25:05	Mariostar	l think the Wii U will "DIE" in the year 2016,l expect new system info,even if it's limited.
2015-02-05 19:25:34	Waterpikmin	*cough* fusion
2015-02-05 19:25:36	Mariostar	Oh,Espyo,l got the Game & Watch.
2015-02-05 19:25:37	Waterpikmin	lol
2015-02-05 19:25:42	Waterpikmin	wait what?
2015-02-05 19:25:47	Mariostar	*cough* shulktime
2015-02-05 19:25:50	Waterpikmin	omg
2015-02-05 19:25:51	Yoshi2_	hey Testyo 
2015-02-05 19:25:52	Testyo	news sections/pages are historically really badly maintained on Pikipedia, so good luck with that doesn't sound right
2015-02-05 19:26:11	Waterpikmin	*cough* im really feeling it
2015-02-05 19:26:18	Mariostar	How long is left to download?
2015-02-05 19:26:33	Waterpikmin	omg i just did my happiest achievement ever recently im pikmin 2
2015-02-05 19:27:10	Waterpikmin	i got through the submerged castle without encountering the waterwraith once before the final floor
2015-02-05 19:27:20	Mariostar	clap.
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2015-02-05 19:27:58	Waterpikmin	its the first time i did it but i bet tons of other ppl did it too
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2015-02-05 19:28:21	Waterpikmin	im also about to beat challenge mode completly
2015-02-05 19:28:22	Mariostar	Is it done?
2015-02-05 19:28:29	Waterpikmin	without pikmin deaths
2015-02-05 19:28:38	Waterpikmin	its downloading right now
2015-02-05 19:28:50	Mariostar	Testyo giz sum triveea
2015-02-05 19:28:51	Testyo	they probably heard some things they didn't adore, like how so?
2015-02-05 19:29:13	Waterpikmin	*gasp*
2015-02-05 19:29:27	Waterpikmin	dont see that everyday
2015-02-05 19:29:33	Mariostar	testyo more nez
2015-02-05 19:29:33	Testyo	instead of having to go has a gaming club?
2015-02-05 19:29:44	Mariostar	da heck, testyo
2015-02-05 19:29:45	Testyo	unless the hmm...
2015-02-05 19:29:52	@Espyo	it wasn't Testyo that gave the news
2015-02-05 19:29:53	Testyo	"yes, Armored Cannon Larva is its name in P3, but we can't just change it spontaneously; it his for him
2015-02-05 19:29:58	@Espyo	it was the IRC server admins
2015-02-05 19:30:09	Mariostar	I know,l just want some trivia from Testyo.
2015-02-05 19:30:09	Testyo	it does mean the SMS guy did good work identifying the purpose of the game out of all of them
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2015-02-05 19:30:57	Waterpikmin	one detail i really love about pikmin 3 is that pnf-404 is pangea ultima
2015-02-05 19:31:48	Mariostar	Turn on,chose beginner,go online,easy,seatch for room,type 5896.  Do that when you get on.
2015-02-05 19:31:58	Waterpikmin	ok
2015-02-05 19:32:41	Mariostar	Want to chat here or there?
2015-02-05 19:33:42	Waterpikmin	here
2015-02-05 19:34:27	Mariostar	I might leave when we play and use the keyboard chat on monster hunter.
2015-02-05 19:35:01	Waterpikmin	ok
2015-02-05 19:35:08	Waterpikmin	whatever is fine with me
2015-02-05 19:35:12	Mariostar	Ok.
2015-02-05 19:35:23	Mariostar	Want to explore or,y'know,hunt?
2015-02-05 19:35:42	Waterpikmin	whatever is fine with me
2015-02-05 19:35:53	Waterpikmin	ill probably explore first then hunt
2015-02-05 19:36:44	Mariostar	Let's explpre first,i'll messege you in game when l'm ready,l'll hunt whenever you're ready.
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2015-02-05 19:37:29	Waterpikmin	sounds good
2015-02-05 19:38:06	Mariostar	Done?
2015-02-05 19:38:21	Waterpikmin	just finished
2015-02-05 19:38:40	Mariostar	ok,read the thing above to join.
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2015-02-05 19:39:08	Waterpikmin	ok
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2015-02-05 19:41:55	MS	Sorry,l lost my internet.
2015-02-05 19:42:14	Waterpikmin	no prob
2015-02-05 19:42:22	Waterpikmin	want me to make the room?
2015-02-05 19:42:22	MS	You want to host?
2015-02-05 19:42:28	Waterpikmin	sure
2015-02-05 19:42:31	MS	Yeah,please.
2015-02-05 19:42:41	MS	Add a passcode.
2015-02-05 19:42:46	Waterpikmin	the pass is 6523
2015-02-05 19:43:07	MS	What mode?
2015-02-05 19:43:28	Waterpikmin	great jaggi
2015-02-05 19:43:37	MS	What's the ID?
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2015-02-05 19:43:54	MS	l think l'm in,yeah.
2015-02-05 19:44:07	MS	Did l join?
2015-02-05 19:44:15	Waterpikmin	there you are!
2015-02-05 19:44:20	MS	09-2084 ect?
2015-02-05 19:44:20	Waterpikmin	ok ready?
2015-02-05 19:44:30	Waterpikmin	yes
2015-02-05 19:44:48	MS	Ready,l'll use Bow,l'm trying to master it.
2015-02-05 19:45:15	MS	Thanks for doing this. ^-^
2015-02-05 19:45:23	Waterpikmin	ill go for great sword and no problem!
2015-02-05 19:45:30	MS	You're using the first class l tried.
2015-02-05 19:45:48	MS	No Keyboard. :\
2015-02-05 19:46:08	MS	l'm goin' explorin'
2015-02-05 19:46:10	Waterpikmin	wow
2015-02-05 19:46:25	Waterpikmin	shoutouts to demo restrictions
2015-02-05 19:46:38	Waterpikmin	ill go a bit hunting
2015-02-05 19:47:01	MS	l'll hunt weak.
2015-02-05 19:47:36	MS	Ay,don't worry about it.
2015-02-05 19:49:19	Waterpikmin	this looks dangerous!
2015-02-05 19:49:29	MS	I'm going to try to mounta beast.
2015-02-05 19:49:41	Waterpikmin	wait didi u say mount?
2015-02-05 19:50:00	MS	DA BEAST
2015-02-05 19:50:09	Waterpikmin	as in, ride
2015-02-05 19:50:12	MS	One shottin' these beats.
2015-02-05 19:50:17	MS	Kinda.
2015-02-05 19:50:18	Waterpikmin	oh lol
2015-02-05 19:51:19	MS	I'm going to get the beast.
2015-02-05 19:51:25	Waterpikmin	ok
2015-02-05 19:52:01	MS	RUN!
2015-02-05 19:52:15	Waterpikmin	oh god
2015-02-05 19:52:18	MS	HE'S AFTER ME!
2015-02-05 19:52:27	MS	RUN BITCH,RUUUUUN!
2015-02-05 19:52:45	Waterpikmin	oh god
2015-02-05 19:53:57	MS	Can we climb at the same time?
2015-02-05 19:54:15	Waterpikmin	i think so
2015-02-05 19:54:37	MS	It found us!
2015-02-05 19:55:07	MS	Jump on t!
2015-02-05 19:58:19	MS	I found a safe place.
2015-02-05 20:01:06	Waterpikmin	wow
2015-02-05 20:01:10	MS	Want to try and properly hunt the harder one nest?
2015-02-05 20:01:14	MS	*next
2015-02-05 20:03:29	Waterpikmin	sure
2015-02-05 20:04:11	MS	Trying to mount him.
2015-02-05 20:05:35	Waterpikmin	lead him over here!
2015-02-05 20:07:00	Waterpikmin	nice!
2015-02-05 20:07:01	MS	YES!
2015-02-05 20:07:24	MS	Now we need to skin in
2015-02-05 20:07:56	MS	That looks so....sexual with my character byy you...
2015-02-05 20:08:05	Waterpikmin	wow
2015-02-05 20:08:31	MS	Now the narder guy?
2015-02-05 20:08:42	MS	l'll host.
2015-02-05 20:08:49	Waterpikmin	i gtg, but ill talk to you later!
2015-02-05 20:08:53	Waterpikmin	FC?
2015-02-05 20:09:01	MS	Again,not my DS.
2015-02-05 20:09:06	MS	Mines broke.
2015-02-05 20:09:07	Waterpikmin	oh right
2015-02-05 20:09:12	MS	My Miiverse is
2015-02-05 20:09:21	MS	Mariosrar123u
2015-02-05 20:09:26	MS	yes,srar
2015-02-05 20:09:31	Waterpikmin	ok
2015-02-05 20:09:48	Waterpikmin	ill get it in a minute
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2015-02-05 20:10:23	MS	ok.
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2015-02-05 20:25:25	@PikFan	hi
2015-02-05 20:25:40	@PikFan	okay so I should've pointed this out earlier but
2015-02-05 20:25:57	@PikFan	on mobile devices the main page doesn't fit the margins
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2015-02-05 20:28:16	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-05 20:28:18	@Espyo	...
2015-02-05 20:28:26	@Espyo	well, there IS a mobile style
2015-02-05 20:28:33	@Espyo	at the bottom, there's a link to toggle between desktop and mobile
2015-02-05 20:28:38	@Espyo	I'll have to take a look on my tablet
2015-02-05 20:31:43	Yoshi2	maybe taking a look with a phone would be more accurate
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2015-02-05 20:32:52	@PikFan	official mobile version is worse
2015-02-05 20:32:58	@PikFan	specially the news
2015-02-05 20:33:58	@Espyo	hm
2015-02-05 20:34:22	@Espyo	speaking of the news, what do you think of the new style (desktop version)?
2015-02-05 20:34:48	@PikFan	I like it
2015-02-05 20:34:58	@Espyo	all right, good
2015-02-05 20:35:17	@PikFan	Fanon's news needs to be updated
2015-02-05 20:35:37	@PikFan	and then there's the site notice
2015-02-05 20:35:49	@PikFan	...which I honestly don't know what to do
2015-02-05 20:35:54	@Espyo	right...
2015-02-05 20:36:22	@PikFan	site notice, it seems, is used more for news than the actual news template
2015-02-05 20:36:36	Yoshi2	hm, the names of the 5 areas in Pikmin 3 all have the same amount of letters?
2015-02-05 20:36:50	@Espyo	same amount of CHARACTERS
2015-02-05 20:36:55	@Espyo	you're the second person to say letters...
2015-02-05 20:36:59	@PikFan	hehehe
2015-02-05 20:37:04	@Espyo	I don't know how to make it any clearer that it's characters, not letters
2015-02-05 20:37:11	@PikFan	extreme emphasis on characters
2015-02-05 20:37:39	@PikFan	no
2015-02-05 20:37:46	@PikFan	they're caricatures
2015-02-05 20:38:15	@Espyo	Did you know... that all areas in Pikmin 3 have the same amount of CHARACTERS
2015-02-05 20:39:19	@PikFan	what's interesting is that there are 14 caves in P2, and the amount of characters is 14
2015-02-05 20:39:46	@PikFan	...wait what
2015-02-05 20:39:52	@Espyo	uhm
2015-02-05 20:40:17	@PikFan	err, maybe I added wrong
2015-02-05 20:40:21	@PikFan	15 caves
2015-02-05 20:40:25	@PikFan	never mind
2015-02-05 20:40:47	@PikFan	...no it's 14
2015-02-05 20:41:04	@PikFan	for some reason I though there were 4 caves in VoR
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2015-02-05 20:41:21	@PikFan	*thought
2015-02-05 20:41:26	@PikFan	GAH
2015-02-05 20:41:36	@PikFan	I'm riddled with errors today
2015-02-05 20:43:05	@PikFan	oh yeah
2015-02-05 20:43:20	@PikFan	I liked the spotlight video, I thought it was cool
2015-02-05 20:44:03	@Espyo	I thought so too
2015-02-05 20:44:14	@Espyo	he plans on doing it monthly, so it should be nice
2015-02-05 20:44:20	@PikFan	he?
2015-02-05 20:45:29	@Espyo	from the skype group
2015-02-05 20:45:34	@Espyo	uh... Ben, I think
2015-02-05 20:45:42	@PikFan	oh okay
2015-02-05 20:46:18	@PikFan	so my 3DS is still disassembled
2015-02-05 20:46:42	@PikFan	haven't bothered to research which ribbon I have to check
2015-02-05 20:47:28	@Espyo	eesh, still?
2015-02-05 20:47:29	@PikFan	but I'm not even sure if I should bother fixing it since the N3DS is coming out soon
2015-02-05 20:48:16	@PikFan	otoh, it would be nice to use my DS again
2015-02-05 20:49:04	@PikFan	so I have a Japanese test next period
2015-02-05 20:50:12	@PikFan	the cool thing about iPads is that they have keyboards for other languages, including Japanese
2015-02-05 20:50:50	@Espyo	oh, you're learning Japanese?
2015-02-05 20:50:58	@PikFan	おやすみなさい！
2015-02-05 20:51:08	@Espyo	awesome!
2015-02-05 20:51:08	@PikFan	mhm
2015-02-05 20:51:21	@Espyo	when you can, try to translate the [[Hairy Bulborb]]'s name
2015-02-05 20:51:22	Testyo	"Hairy_Bulborb" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Hairy_Bulborb
2015-02-05 20:51:25	@PikFan	I just wrote 'good night!'
2015-02-05 20:51:33	@Espyo	I've been trying to decipher "tenten" for ages, now
2015-02-05 20:51:44	@PikFan	heh, I don't know THAT much Japanese
2015-02-05 20:51:45	@Espyo	crap, it's not the Hairy
2015-02-05 20:51:46	@Espyo	it's the Orange
2015-02-05 20:51:50	@Espyo	hence "when you can"
2015-02-05 20:51:55	@Espyo	[[Orange Bulborb]]
2015-02-05 20:51:55	Testyo	"Orange_Bulborb" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Orange_Bulborb
2015-02-05 20:52:02	@PikFan	...didn't read that
2015-02-05 20:52:09	@PikFan	I need to slow down
2015-02-05 20:52:16	@Espyo	hehe
2015-02-05 20:53:14	@PikFan	tentenchappii...
2015-02-05 20:53:23	@Espyo	mhm
2015-02-05 20:53:37	@PikFan	I assume that chappii means Bulborb
2015-02-05 20:53:41	@PikFan	hmm
2015-02-05 20:53:43	@Espyo	well, yeah
2015-02-05 20:53:45	@Espyo	more like Chappy
2015-02-05 20:54:02	@PikFan	I could ask sensei what tenten means
2015-02-05 20:54:23	@Espyo	I tried checking several sites
2015-02-05 20:54:27	@Espyo	and no results
2015-02-05 20:54:33	@Espyo	well, at least you can give him context
2015-02-05 20:54:37	@Espyo	you can't to machines
2015-02-05 20:54:50	@PikFan	heh, that's the thing about machines
2015-02-05 20:54:57	@PikFan	they only think linearly
2015-02-05 20:55:05	@Espyo	that's why I had to create an entire tutorial
2015-02-05 20:55:14	@PikFan	humans have a difference thought process
2015-02-05 20:55:21	@PikFan	*different
2015-02-05 20:55:45	@PikFan	hopefully quantum computers will be more efficient
2015-02-05 20:56:02	@PikFan	...I still don't understand what a qubit is
2015-02-05 20:56:11	@PikFan	quantum bit, apparently
2015-02-05 20:56:19	@PikFan	but I don't understand that
2015-02-05 20:56:34	@Espyo	I think I read a bit
2015-02-05 20:56:37	@Espyo	and quickly dismissed it
2015-02-05 20:57:02	@PikFan	heh
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2015-02-05 20:57:52	@PikFan	hmm... maybe tenten isn't even a Japanese word
2015-02-05 20:58:05	@PikFan	maybe it was transcribed wrong
2015-02-05 20:59:03	@Espyo	hmm...
2015-02-05 20:59:06	@Espyo	let me try websites
2015-02-05 20:59:29	@Espyo	google translate says tenten
2015-02-05 20:59:49	@Espyo	so does jisho.org
2015-02-05 20:59:55	@Espyo	let me check the game files if it's really テンテン
2015-02-05 21:00:17	@PikFan	alright, sensei doesn't know
2015-02-05 21:00:26	@Espyo	dammit...
2015-02-05 21:00:38	@PikFan	so I assume it's not a word
2015-02-05 21:00:42	@Espyo	I think this is cryptic like "Ujadani"
2015-02-05 21:00:50	@Espyo	in that you have to know that "uja" is short for "ujauja"
2015-02-05 21:01:07	@PikFan	anyway, I have to go, class is starting
2015-02-05 21:01:13	@PikFan	ah, I see
2015-02-05 21:01:14	@Espyo	okay
2015-02-05 21:01:16	@Espyo	see ya
2015-02-05 21:01:17	@PikFan	bye
2015-02-05 21:01:24	@Espyo	テンテンチャッピー
2015-02-05 21:01:26	@Espyo	that's the name...
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2015-02-05 21:13:55	Mariostar	Hi.
2015-02-05 21:14:37	UltraMario	hi
2015-02-05 21:15:03	Mariostar	UM,do you have the monster hunter four demo?
2015-02-05 21:15:45	UltraMario	no...
2015-02-05 21:15:51	UltraMario	why?
2015-02-05 21:16:18	Mariostar	We cn play online with Fs in a private room.
2015-02-05 21:16:51	UltraMario	no
2015-02-05 21:16:53	Mariostar	*can  *FCs
2015-02-05 21:17:07	UltraMario	i have never even played MH... :|
2015-02-05 21:17:23	Mariostar	Neither have l,and l'm loving the online!
2015-02-05 21:22:19	UltraMario	eh, idk
2015-02-05 21:28:17	Mariostar	Loving it.
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2015-02-05 21:44:07	Shard1	Hello
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2015-02-05 22:41:37	Testyo	holy—whaaaa that page to "fan sites"
2015-02-05 22:45:10	@Espyo	good
2015-02-05 22:45:24	@Espyo	I write a class called mob_action
2015-02-05 22:45:40	@Espyo	visual studio complains that it can't recognize the identifier "b_action"
2015-02-05 22:46:06	@Espyo	it would be easier to write individual compiled bits using notepad than it'd be to compile with this piece of shit
2015-02-05 22:46:06	Testyo	You swear like a sailor.
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2015-02-05 23:29:54	Waterpikmin	hello?
2015-02-05 23:30:25	Waterpikmin	Espyo, i wanted to ask you something
2015-02-05 23:30:38	@Espyo	yeah?
2015-02-05 23:30:51	Waterpikmin	what is the one thing you want in the next installment of pikmin?
2015-02-05 23:30:59	Waterpikmin	ive been wondering this for a while
2015-02-05 23:31:15	@Espyo	hmm...
2015-02-05 23:31:20	@Espyo	I'd like to see real-world treasures back
2015-02-05 23:31:25	@Espyo	but other than that, not anything in particular
2015-02-05 23:31:31	@Espyo	I'll just wait to see what Nintendo does
2015-02-05 23:31:37	Waterpikmin	i want to see more multiplayer playability
2015-02-05 23:31:47	Waterpikmin	like  coop mode to story mode
2015-02-05 23:32:32	Waterpikmin	another prediction i had is that there will be more than 3 captains, but only 3 can be on the map at once, giving an option to choose your captain
2015-02-05 23:32:42	@Espyo	yeah, I'd love online multiplayer
2015-02-05 23:32:46	@Espyo	can't believe I forgot that
2015-02-05 23:32:56	Waterpikmin	omg, i wanted that more than ever
2015-02-05 23:33:03	Waterpikmin	imagine pikmin tournaments
2015-02-05 23:33:21	@Espyo	that'd be awesome
2015-02-05 23:33:34	Waterpikmin	i also want to have a major story plot
2015-02-05 23:33:55	Waterpikmin	i want to see more elaborate descriptions of characters mentioned but not seen
2015-02-05 23:33:59	Waterpikmin	like drake
2015-02-05 23:34:09	Waterpikmin	which could likely be character d
2015-02-05 23:34:50	@Espyo	hm, yeah
2015-02-05 23:35:01	Waterpikmin	i was thinking about what it would be like to explore hocotate and koppai and be able to talk to ppl around the planet
2015-02-05 23:35:11	Waterpikmin	like and open world experience
2015-02-05 23:35:15	Waterpikmin	an*
2015-02-05 23:35:48	@Espyo	yeah, that'd be interesting
2015-02-05 23:35:58	Waterpikmin	of course, miyamoto did mention that he wanted this game to be a system seller, so that means
2015-02-05 23:36:17	Waterpikmin	nintendo will have this as the highest priority in the future
2015-02-05 23:36:35	Waterpikmin	as for now they are likely to be thinking about the plot
2015-02-05 23:36:40	@Espyo	did he?
2015-02-05 23:36:44	@Espyo	I must've missed that part...
2015-02-05 23:36:53	Waterpikmin	i believe so
2015-02-05 23:37:05	Waterpikmin	i think i heard it on a pikcast
2015-02-05 23:37:08	@Espyo	hm, nice, then
2015-02-05 23:37:09	Waterpikmin	which i loved
2015-02-05 23:37:14	Waterpikmin	oh and
2015-02-05 23:37:22	Waterpikmin	when i first saw pikcast
2015-02-05 23:37:24	@Espyo	I probably wasn't on that episode of Pikcast
2015-02-05 23:37:35	Waterpikmin	i heard the mission mode theme remix
2015-02-05 23:38:02	Waterpikmin	i didnt know it existed until i realized i didnt unlock it
2015-02-05 23:38:09	@Espyo	hehe
2015-02-05 23:38:16	@Espyo	it's a pretty nice song
2015-02-05 23:38:20	@Espyo	I unlocked it before I even knew what it was
2015-02-05 23:38:41	Waterpikmin	i looked it up and heard it and i had my jaw wide open
2015-02-05 23:38:56	Waterpikmin	its truly sad that pikmin in a way is underrated
2015-02-05 23:39:28	Waterpikmin	with mario and zelda and other games like that sorta covering it up
2015-02-05 23:39:58	Waterpikmin	im getting that olimar ammibo
2015-02-05 23:40:11	Waterpikmin	i would die if it was not announced
2015-02-05 23:40:25	@Espyo	it really is underrated...
2015-02-05 23:40:29	@Espyo	well, not underrated
2015-02-05 23:40:33	@Espyo	it's underlooked
2015-02-05 23:40:38	Waterpikmin	exactly
2015-02-05 23:41:01	Waterpikmin	one really great thing about the series is the detail
2015-02-05 23:41:11	@Espyo	yeah, I love every tiny bit of detail
2015-02-05 23:41:15	@Espyo	they're really masters at it
2015-02-05 23:41:20	Waterpikmin	the fact that the map in 3 is pangea ultima is awesome
2015-02-05 23:41:21	@Espyo	well, when they want to
2015-02-05 23:41:25	@Espyo	mhm
2015-02-05 23:41:55	@Espyo	gonna go to sleep now
2015-02-05 23:41:58	@Espyo	see you tomorrow
2015-02-05 23:42:12	Waterpikmin	ok! tty tomorrow!
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2015-02-06 19:30:51	Testyo	Evening everyone!
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2015-02-06 19:37:25	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-02-06 19:37:25	Testyo	but it's all in the next cell
2015-02-06 19:38:01	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-06 19:41:05	Yoshi2	it was suprisingly easy to take apart the xbox controller
2015-02-06 19:41:20	Yoshi2	but I also need to put it together again
2015-02-06 19:46:56	@Espyo	hehe
2015-02-06 19:46:58	@Espyo	good luck
2015-02-06 19:47:08	@Espyo	at least it can't be as bad as my old PC controller
2015-02-06 19:47:16	@Espyo	the triggers...
2015-02-06 19:47:20	@Espyo	they haunt me to this day...
2015-02-06 20:02:37	Yoshi2	the triggers are suprisingly ok
2015-02-06 20:05:15	@Espyo	the problem I had with mine's triggers was that they had nothing to stand on when you reassembled the controller
2015-02-06 20:05:19	@Espyo	there was no support for them
2015-02-06 20:05:29	@Espyo	they just flimsily laid on top of the button sensor
2015-02-06 20:05:45	@Espyo	and if you didn't have the right balance (which is impossible), you'd never close the controller and keep the triggers in place
2015-02-06 20:05:58	@Espyo	...oh, and this controller decided to act up more times than I'd like
2015-02-06 20:06:07	@Espyo	opening and closing that thing once was hell as it is
2015-02-06 20:06:11	@Espyo	now having to do it 10 times...
2015-02-06 20:06:18	@Espyo	good thing it's in the trash now
2015-02-06 20:06:26	@J	.
2015-02-06 20:06:35	@Espyo	hey
2015-02-06 20:06:54	@Espyo	so at work my department head got two raspberry pis delivered to him
2015-02-06 20:07:01	@Espyo	I never knew those things were so... MINUSCULE
2015-02-06 20:07:15	@J	I think some newer smaller version came out?
2015-02-06 20:07:24	@Espyo	I think he got that, yeah
2015-02-06 20:07:35	@Espyo	he's been up and about ordering and getting it delivered for the past few days
2015-02-06 20:07:39	@Espyo	so it's probably as recent as it gets
2015-02-06 20:07:50	@J	...how long does it take to order it?
2015-02-06 20:07:58	@Espyo	and I can't tell if I misheard, but... did he say they can cost as low as 20€?
2015-02-06 20:07:59	Testyo	20 € = £ 17.104  / $ 27.128 
2015-02-06 20:08:04	@J	news looks okay, except that the categories aren't right-aligned
2015-02-06 20:08:06	@Espyo	well, "ordering" doesn't take time, but delivering took him like a week
2015-02-06 20:08:19	@J	yeah, the newest version is cheaper too
2015-02-06 20:08:27	@J	but the cheap version has no ethernet
2015-02-06 20:08:33	@Espyo	oh
2015-02-06 20:08:43	@Espyo	I always imagined the pi to be a thing the size of... well, a Wii, or something
2015-02-06 20:08:47	@Espyo	and cost at least 70€
2015-02-06 20:08:47	Testyo	70 € = £ 59.864  / $ 94.948 
2015-02-06 20:08:52	@Espyo	I was just dumbfounded
2015-02-06 20:09:00	@Espyo	this is why we CAN have nice things
2015-02-06 20:09:16	@J	the size and price are the main selling points
2015-02-06 20:09:19	@Espyo	also, right-aligned? they're meant to all be on the same X
2015-02-06 20:09:24	@Espyo	yeah, I could tell now...
2015-02-06 20:09:34	Yoshi2	nobody would be talking about the Pi if it was 70€
2015-02-06 20:09:34	@Espyo	I mean, I knew the price and size were the main selling points before, but not to THIS degree
2015-02-06 20:09:34	Testyo	70 € = £ 59.864  / $ 94.948 
2015-02-06 20:09:45	@J	yeah, but it looks weird that there's a large gap between them and the right side of the bex
2015-02-06 20:09:46	@J	*box
2015-02-06 20:09:50	@Espyo	well, considering the average crap laptop is around 150€...
2015-02-06 20:10:06	@Espyo	I'd say anything costing 70€ would be worth getting into, specially if it's better than "the average crap laptop"
2015-02-06 20:10:07	Testyo	70 € = £ 59.864  / $ 94.948 
2015-02-06 20:10:21	@Espyo	well, maybe not much better, but it's still a hefty machine
2015-02-06 20:10:41	Yoshi2	the pi has no screen and no input devices
2015-02-06 20:10:49	@Espyo	yeah
2015-02-06 20:10:59	@Espyo	the date, category and text are in a table
2015-02-06 20:11:08	Yoshi2	you'd basically be paying for a motherboard
2015-02-06 20:11:11	@Espyo	date+cat in two cells at the top, text in one at the bottom
2015-02-06 20:11:17	@Espyo	yeah, that's pretty much what the pi is...
2015-02-06 20:11:36	@Espyo	oh, and he bought two of them
2015-02-06 20:11:50	@Espyo	both boxes where they came from could easily fit in my hand, laid side-to-side
2015-02-06 20:11:58	@Espyo	it's ridiculous
2015-02-06 20:12:23	@Espyo	anyway, I'm gonna try an alternate style for the news
2015-02-06 20:12:26	@Espyo	hopefully fix that
2015-02-06 20:12:31	Yoshi2	actually, it is not quite a motherboard
2015-02-06 20:12:39	@Espyo	also, I called in kirbyddd, the guy who's trying to fix the wikia, to come chat tomorrow or sunday
2015-02-06 20:12:43	@Espyo	hopefully we can try to reach something good
2015-02-06 20:12:54	Yoshi2	maybe a motherboard with RAM and cpu included
2015-02-06 20:13:14	Yoshi2	and CPUs usually require a cooler which is very big, preventing you from putting the motherboard anywhere
2015-02-06 20:13:17	@Espyo	oh, right
2015-02-06 20:13:36	Yoshi2	while the pi has everything on it, and is very light weight
2015-02-06 20:14:30	@Espyo	mhm
2015-02-06 20:14:47	Yoshi2	well, operation "Fix the button" appears to have been a success
2015-02-06 20:15:01	Yoshi2	the A button doesn't get stuck so easily on my controller anymore
2015-02-06 20:15:36	Yoshi2	let's test if I broke anything
2015-02-06 20:16:06	@Espyo	good
2015-02-06 20:18:01	Yoshi2	seems to work \o/
2015-02-06 20:18:32	Yoshi2	it really seems that the controller was designed in such a way as to be very easy to repair
2015-02-06 20:18:48	@Espyo	yeah, some really look like they're like that
2015-02-06 20:18:50	@Espyo	others... not so much
2015-02-06 20:20:23	Yoshi2	people don't recommend the xbox 360 controller for no reason
2015-02-06 20:24:11	@Espyo	uhm
2015-02-06 20:24:25	@Espyo	at first I thought you meant that people say bad things about the controller, and they do so for no reason
2015-02-06 20:25:06	Yoshi2	well
2015-02-06 20:26:02	Yoshi2	let me put it like this: there is a reason why a lot of people recommend the x360 controller
2015-02-06 20:29:02	@Espyo	hehe, yeah
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2015-02-06 20:30:56	@PikFan	hi
2015-02-06 20:31:06	@J	ey
2015-02-06 20:31:08	@J	*hey
2015-02-06 20:31:40	@PikFan	ey
2015-02-06 20:31:43	@PikFan	heh
2015-02-06 20:33:21	@PikFan	http://www.pikminwiki.com/Pikipedia:Cave_article_policy#How_to_reach_section
2015-02-06 20:33:29	@PikFan	I just now noticed this
2015-02-06 20:33:47	@PikFan	and when it did I couldn't help but think about my own cave articles
2015-02-06 20:34:11	@PikFan	*and when I did
2015-02-06 20:34:18	@PikFan	...I am not an it
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2015-02-06 20:38:49	@PikFan	I look at all the policies, guidelines and whatnot of Pikipedia, and I feel like I've failed
2015-02-06 20:39:01	@PikFan	I've failed at being an admin
2015-02-06 20:40:08	@PikFan	anyway, going now, bye
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2015-02-06 20:46:49	@Espyo	heh
2015-02-06 20:56:53	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Vehemoth Phosbat by 97.90.82.73 (-1 /* Expert Strategy */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Vehemoth_Phosbat&curid=8262&diff=144577&oldid=144559
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2015-02-07 09:48:53	Mariostar	Hello.
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2015-02-07 10:56:48	Yoshi2	well, he lasted an entire miute
2015-02-07 11:02:54	@J	good morning
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2015-02-07 12:01:44	Testyo	Hello everyone!
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2015-02-07 13:02:59	@J	yes, Google, when I search for 'unnamed' I really want to search for 'named'
2015-02-07 13:04:17	@Espyo	typical
2015-02-07 13:07:35	@Espyo	http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Goolix&curid=4216&diff=144579&oldid=81520 uhm, what
2015-02-07 13:22:29	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Lapis Lazuli Candypop Bud by E (+20) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Lapis_Lazuli_Candypop_Bud&curid=1018&diff=144580&oldid=142037
2015-02-07 13:22:30	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Crimson Candypop Bud by E (+22) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Crimson_Candypop_Bud&curid=409&diff=144581&oldid=142035
2015-02-07 13:27:23	@J	right
2015-02-07 13:27:32	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Crimson Candypop Bud by E (-1) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Crimson_Candypop_Bud&curid=409&diff=144582&oldid=144581
2015-02-07 13:28:12	@J	so, uh, my terminal program tells the window manager that it shouldn't be made smaller than one character wide
2015-02-07 13:28:31	@J	but for some reason, there's logic that makes it so that if it _is_ somehow made smaller, it hides the scrollbar
2015-02-07 13:28:37	@J	why would anyone bother to code that?
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2015-02-07 13:32:28	@Espyo	it might just be a general thing where if there's not enough space for a scrollbar, it just doesn't exist
2015-02-07 13:32:33	@Espyo	could be a thing with scrollbars themselves, even
2015-02-07 13:32:59	@J	it doesn't use a standard widget toolkit AFAIK
2015-02-07 13:33:04	Mariostar	Hi.
2015-02-07 13:33:07	@J	and supports various scrollbar styles
2015-02-07 13:33:13	@J	Mariostar: hi
2015-02-07 13:33:52	Mariostar	I'm on the MH4U demo online,but l'm not helping. : D
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2015-02-07 13:39:16	@J	so I need to improve help/documentation at some point anyway, but I feel like I need a list of available field names somewhere
2015-02-07 13:39:31	@J	http://i.imgur.com/44wsnPS.png here, that's 'ext', 'name1' and 'name2' (name2 = ext)
2015-02-07 13:40:03	@J	but I have no idea where to put it
2015-02-07 13:40:41	@J	maybe in the Template section?
2015-02-07 13:41:12	@Espyo	where to put the format documentation?
2015-02-07 13:41:49	@J	no, the current list of fields
2015-02-07 13:42:02	@J	documentation can probably be 'what's this?'-style
2015-02-07 13:42:13	@J	with the question mark cursor thing
2015-02-07 13:42:22	@Espyo	right
2015-02-07 13:42:40	@Espyo	you probably want a button that opens...
2015-02-07 13:42:42	@Espyo	a dialog box?
2015-02-07 13:42:45	@Espyo	might be a bit awkward
2015-02-07 13:42:53	@J	probably want to see it change in real-time, though
2015-02-07 13:43:04	@J	I just can't visualise a sensible way for it to look
2015-02-07 13:43:15	@Espyo	wait, change?
2015-02-07 13:43:19	@Espyo	I don't think we're talking about the same thing
2015-02-07 13:43:49	@Espyo	you want a place to put some text that says "ame1: this is the name of the file. $ext: extension of the file. ame2: alias for $ext."
2015-02-07 13:43:52	@Espyo	or something else?
2015-02-07 13:44:17	@J	yes, but the user is the one creating the fields
2015-02-07 13:44:22	@J	see the regex in the screenshot
2015-02-07 13:44:35	@J	so I don't know what they are; all I can do is list them
2015-02-07 13:44:40	@J	also fix your 'n' key?
2015-02-07 13:45:01	@Espyo	oh
2015-02-07 13:45:11	@Espyo	nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
2015-02-07 13:45:14	@Espyo	nnnnnnn
2015-02-07 13:45:15	@Espyo	NNNNN
2015-02-07 13:45:18	@Espyo	eh, good enough
2015-02-07 13:45:23	@Espyo	right, I get it now
2015-02-07 13:45:32	@Espyo	hmmmm... don't really think there's a good way to do it
2015-02-07 13:45:34	@J	hmm, I could have it on the right, since it's part of the preview, really
2015-02-07 13:45:42	@Espyo	hm, yeah
2015-02-07 13:46:00	@Espyo	is the "template" frame widget on the bottom-left of the program gonna have anything else?
2015-02-07 13:46:03	@Espyo	or just that text box?
2015-02-07 13:46:11	@J	I'm considering making the right part a tabbed interface where you can split them into multiple panes viewed at the same time
2015-02-07 13:46:15	@J	just the text box
2015-02-07 13:46:44	@Espyo	seems like a waste just having the text bo
2015-02-07 13:46:45	@Espyo	*x
2015-02-07 13:47:05	@Espyo	hmm... that tab idea might be good
2015-02-07 13:47:45	@J	something like: you have a fixed layout, default one pane, and tabs; if you split it, each shows a different tab (or possibly the same)
2015-02-07 13:47:50	@J	like some text editors work
2015-02-07 13:48:02	@J	tabs inside panes rather than panes inside tabs
2015-02-07 13:49:19	@Espyo	right
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2015-02-07 14:46:10	Testyo	Hi everyone!
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2015-02-07 15:52:54	@J	anyone know what the Windows file manager default view mode is?
2015-02-07 15:53:16	@J	(eg. list, large/small icons, details)
2015-02-07 15:53:23	@Espyo	depends on the OS
2015-02-07 15:53:27	@J	7?
2015-02-07 15:53:39	@Espyo	and I've had this (8) for a bit... chances are I already changed
2015-02-07 15:53:40	@Espyo	oh, wait
2015-02-07 15:53:45	@Espyo	it's dynamic depending on the content
2015-02-07 15:53:51	@Espyo	I can try an empty folder and let you know
2015-02-07 15:54:02	@J	I'm trying to decide which icon to give the exe, since I have different icons for different sizes, but Windows can only handle one
2015-02-07 15:54:12	@Espyo	detail view for me, on an empty folder, in W8
2015-02-07 15:54:20	@Espyo	if I put an image and try opening the folder again...
2015-02-07 15:54:35	@Espyo	"big thumbnails" mode
2015-02-07 15:54:44	@J	hmm
2015-02-07 15:54:59	@Espyo	I think windows can handle more than one
2015-02-07 15:54:59	@J	okay, how about an exe and some other stuff without icons?
2015-02-07 15:55:09	@Espyo	I'll check
2015-02-07 15:55:28	@Espyo	how am I not surprised...
2015-02-07 15:55:35	@Espyo	I deleted the "New folder" folder
2015-02-07 15:55:41	@Espyo	created a new "New folder"
2015-02-07 15:55:46	@Espyo	...it just kept the view from the previous folder
2015-02-07 15:55:48	@J	hmm, actually, I seem to recall that you can put multiple icons in the .ico file
2015-02-07 15:55:51	@J	maybe that does a thing
2015-02-07 15:55:56	@Espyo	so chances are the results will be biased if I continue
2015-02-07 15:56:04	@Espyo	you can put multiple icons
2015-02-07 15:58:01	@J	oh, that's actually working
2015-02-07 15:58:08	@J	yeah, multiple in the .ico and it chooses the right one
2015-02-07 15:58:18	@J	never thought to try that before
2015-02-07 15:59:01	Yoshi2_	makes sense that it supports several icons
2015-02-07 15:59:14	@J	but in a single file, it's a bit weird
2015-02-07 15:59:27	@J	but hey, success
2015-02-07 16:16:56	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Metal Bulborb.png uploaded by Lord Juffowup http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Metal_Bulborb.png
2015-02-07 16:16:57	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Metal Green Bulborb.png uploaded by Lord Juffowup http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Metal_Green_Bulborb.png
2015-02-07 16:16:57	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-02-07 16:18:19	@Espyo	ugh, those horrible crops
2015-02-07 16:21:58	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Telescoping Pumphog.png uploaded by Lord Juffowup http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Telescoping_Pumphog.png
2015-02-07 16:21:58	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Translucent Wollywog.png uploaded by Lord Juffowup http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Translucent_Wollywog.png
2015-02-07 16:21:59	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-02-07 16:27:00	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Bulblord by Lord Juffowup (+48) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Bulblord&curid=7983&diff=144603&oldid=124841
2015-02-07 16:27:00	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Grand Bulblord by Lord Juffowup (+69) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Bulblord&curid=16391&diff=144604&oldid=134385
2015-02-07 16:27:00	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-02-07 16:31:11	@J	okay, got the window icon working on Windows
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2015-02-07 16:31:30	@J	now to get the rest of the icons to work, I'll need to find an icon theme to distribute with it
2015-02-07 16:32:01	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Grand Bulblord by Lord Juffowup (-9) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Grand_Bulblord&curid=16391&diff=144609&oldid=144604
2015-02-07 16:32:01	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Large-Mouth Wollywog by Lord Juffowup (+59) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Large-Mouth_Wollywog&curid=16410&diff=144611&oldid=144222
2015-02-07 16:32:02	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
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2015-02-07 16:35:50	@Espyo	yeah, icon themes
2015-02-07 16:35:51	@Espyo	good luck
2015-02-07 16:35:57	Yoshi2	hmm, the tcrf wiki has a quite a few talented people who are not so talented with the English language
2015-02-07 16:36:05	@Espyo	hehehe, tell me about it
2015-02-07 16:37:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Monochromatic Pinchipede by Lord Juffowup (+69) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Monochromatic_Pinchipede&curid=15791&diff=144630&oldid=143964
2015-02-07 16:37:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Bladed Beeb by Lord Juffowup (+56) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Bladed_Beeb&curid=11625&diff=144635&oldid=144627
2015-02-07 16:37:03	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-02-07 16:37:52	Yoshi2	"The camera is positioned at the first entry of the hole to link child. It is fixed and can not be pressed C up button."
2015-02-07 16:38:00	Yoshi2	that sentence is so close to being correct, and yet
2015-02-07 16:38:49	@Espyo	Porcino
2015-02-07 16:38:53	@Espyo	I know him
2015-02-07 16:39:00	@Espyo	I once had to serve as a proxy between him and the wiki
2015-02-07 16:39:05	@Espyo	because he speaks (Brazilian) Portuguese
2015-02-07 16:39:29	@Espyo	I guess now TCRF is just like "whatever, we'll fix it all at once every few weeks"
2015-02-07 16:41:00	Yoshi2	how can you tell who it is just by a single sentence?
2015-02-07 16:41:13	@Espyo	heh
2015-02-07 16:41:18	@Espyo	Ocarina of Time, right?
2015-02-07 16:41:22	@Espyo	or Majora's Mask
2015-02-07 16:41:28	@Espyo	that "link child" is a dead giveaway
2015-02-07 16:41:39	@Espyo	Porcino has been editing a LOT on the N64 Zelda game pages for the past few months
2015-02-07 16:41:53	@Espyo	plus if I needed some extra reassurance, there's that "link child" instead of "child link"
2015-02-07 16:42:10	@Espyo	in Portuguese, you'd say "Link criança" (child Link), but the word "Link" comes first
2015-02-07 16:42:44	Yoshi2	hmm, this particular page was created by a TCRF admin fairly recently, but that might just be the admin moving around some content
2015-02-07 16:42:47	Yoshi2	https://tcrf.net/index.php?title=The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/Unused_Camera_Settings&action=history
2015-02-07 16:42:51	@Espyo	it's a subpage
2015-02-07 16:42:54	@Espyo	yep, a subpage
2015-02-07 16:43:07	@Espyo	the content was on the normal page, the admin just created a sub and moved the content
2015-02-07 16:44:10	Yoshi2	ah
2015-02-07 16:44:31	Yoshi2	yep, you are right
2015-02-07 16:44:40	@J	how different is Brazilian Portuguese?  Is it like US/UK English?
2015-02-07 16:46:59	@Espyo	that's the comparison I use to answer people, yeah
2015-02-07 16:47:06	@Espyo	although I'd say even MORE annoying
2015-02-07 16:47:15	@Espyo	at least we don't steal a load of words from English
2015-02-07 16:47:22	@Espyo	for "team", we have "equipa"
2015-02-07 16:47:39	@Espyo	Brazil decided that using "time" (read the same way as the English "team") would be better
2015-02-07 16:47:50	@Espyo	and "game" is "jogo" in Portugal, but it's just "game" in Brazil
2015-02-07 16:48:09	@Espyo	and "goal" is "golo", but in Brazil it's "gól" (also pronounced like the English "goal")
2015-02-07 16:48:20	@Espyo	needless to say, when you hear a Brazilian talking about football... it's half-English
2015-02-07 16:50:20	@J	http://www.niwanetwork.org/forums/index.php?topic=1418.msg25954#msg25954 kind of topical given the recent Wikia discussions
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2015-02-07 16:50:26	@J	maybe you have something to contribute
2015-02-07 16:53:15	@Espyo	oh?
2015-02-07 16:53:22	@Espyo	wait, people still post on niwa?
2015-02-07 16:54:53	@Espyo	how in the world can the Starfy wiki have 1000+ articles?
2015-02-07 16:54:59	@Espyo	how freaking much is there to say about Starfy?!
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2015-02-07 16:57:15	@Espyo	anyway, I don't think I really have anything to add to the discussion...
2015-02-07 16:57:20	@Espyo	tips for popularity...
2015-02-07 16:57:32	@Espyo	well, I want to say that the mistakes page I made is pretty awesome and interesting
2015-02-07 16:57:41	@Espyo	but there's no factuality about it
2015-02-07 16:58:01	@Espyo	other than that, the front page I say would be a good place to keep clean
2015-02-07 16:58:11	@Espyo	that change in the news style was a good one, I think
2015-02-07 16:58:34	@Espyo	I guess being very accepting of newcomers is also good
2015-02-07 16:58:41	@Espyo	I made the quick start page with that in mind
2015-02-07 16:58:52	@Espyo	the number of people that don't even understand the concept of editing is huge
2015-02-07 16:59:02	@Espyo	so I'm hoping that page is a real game-changer
2015-02-07 17:00:53	Yoshi2	I wouldn't be against a recommendation about staying online on IRC for more than 1 minute
2015-02-07 17:01:12	@Espyo	hehe
2015-02-07 17:05:17	@J	can I just dump what you said in the topic?
2015-02-07 17:05:32	@J	also give me links for the mistakes page and quick start page
2015-02-07 17:05:39	@Espyo	sure
2015-02-07 17:05:44	@Espyo	[[Mistakes in the Pikmin series]]
2015-02-07 17:05:44	Testyo	"Mistakes_in_the_Pikmin_series" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Mistakes_in_the_Pikmin_series
2015-02-07 17:05:48	@Espyo	[[Help:Quick start guide]]
2015-02-07 17:05:49	Testyo	"Help:Quick_start_guide" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Help:Quick_start_guide
2015-02-07 17:06:02	@Espyo	I think some more "real world" pages would help
2015-02-07 17:06:11	@Espyo	like glitches
2015-02-07 17:06:17	@Espyo	people are pretty up and about glitches
2015-02-07 17:06:22	@Espyo	I think I factually checked that at some point
2015-02-07 17:06:27	@Espyo	or maybe it's just a "feeling" thing
2015-02-07 17:06:33	@Espyo	I mean, there ARE a lot of glitch videos out there
2015-02-07 17:07:03	@Espyo	but yeah, if the Starfy Wiki's got the basics down
2015-02-07 17:07:19	@Espyo	I strongly suggest they approach the technical side of the series
2015-02-07 17:07:30	@Espyo	numeric values, figuring out how some game mechanics work
2015-02-07 17:07:45	@J	look, if you're going to keep saying things, just tell the guy in the topic
2015-02-07 17:07:55	@Espyo	but I don't have an account
2015-02-07 17:08:09	@Espyo	oh, and topics that help speedrunners
2015-02-07 17:08:18	@J	thought so
2015-02-07 17:08:19	@Espyo	if they really expand on that, that can be a "market" they can conquer
2015-02-07 17:08:23	@Espyo	okay, done now
2015-02-07 17:08:29	@J	but I would never call you lazy without proof
2015-02-07 17:08:41	@Espyo	try to login as "Espyo"
2015-02-07 17:08:45	@Espyo	non-existent account
2015-02-07 17:08:46	@Espyo	there's proof
2015-02-07 17:09:10	@J	I meant the proof just now, when you said you won't reply because you're too lazy to create an account
2015-02-07 17:09:19	@Espyo	ah
2015-02-07 17:09:23	@Espyo	well, it's true
2015-02-07 17:09:34	@J	well, I posted
2015-02-07 17:09:35	@Espyo	plus there's also the guilt of creating an account, posting once, and then sleeping in eternal slumber
2015-02-07 17:09:37	@Espyo	okay
2015-02-07 17:10:55	@Espyo	looks good
2015-02-07 17:11:15	@J	you mean like every morning
2015-02-07 17:11:38	@J	never seen this quick start guide
2015-02-07 17:11:56	@J	kind of makes sense, though maybe needs less overlap with [[help:editing]]
2015-02-07 17:11:57	Testyo	"help:editing" article = http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=help:editing
2015-02-07 17:12:15	@J	I get that you want all the basics on one page
2015-02-07 17:12:33	@Espyo	no no, not all basics
2015-02-07 17:12:37	@Espyo	these are the very barebone basics
2015-02-07 17:12:50	@J	but then why bother with nested lists and templates
2015-02-07 17:13:05	@Espyo	well, they're still concepts users should know
2015-02-07 17:13:06	@J	nested lists are really rare
2015-02-07 17:13:15	@Espyo	hm, good point about the lists
2015-02-07 17:13:22	@Espyo	but at the same time, I wanted the page to be a cheat sheet
2015-02-07 17:13:33	@Espyo	though thinking again, it wouldn't be bad to remove the nestness
2015-02-07 17:13:37	@Espyo	nest...ing
2015-02-07 17:13:45	@Espyo	but either way, we really do need a major revamp on everything that's related to he
2015-02-07 17:13:47	@Espyo	*help
2015-02-07 17:13:49	@Espyo	it's all over the place
2015-02-07 17:14:48	@Espyo	though would it REALLY add too much complexity to add a second level?
2015-02-07 17:15:14	@Espyo	(re: lists)
2015-02-07 17:15:25	@Espyo	it's a simple way to learn, in that it's intuitive
2015-02-07 17:15:39	@Espyo	it highlights that you don't need to memorize any specific skill to get a secondary level of indentation
2015-02-07 17:15:47	@Espyo	it's all achieved through intuition
2015-02-07 17:15:54	@Espyo	and I guess it relates with talk page indentation
2015-02-07 17:16:11	@J	[17:13:49] @Espyo it's all over the place
2015-02-07 17:16:14	@J	well it is now
2015-02-07 17:16:19	@Espyo	it was before, too
2015-02-07 17:16:32	@J	obviously lies
2015-02-07 17:16:38	@Espyo	nope
2015-02-07 17:16:40	@J	evidence: I wrote most of the old stuff
2015-02-07 17:17:07	@J	but yeah, sure
2015-02-07 17:17:12	@Espyo	that's evidence enough that it is all splattered around
2015-02-07 17:17:19	@J	however, being retired, I no longer have to care
2015-02-07 17:17:31	@Espyo	yeah
2015-02-07 17:17:35	@Espyo	but morality is another thing
2015-02-07 17:17:47	@J	_almost_ read that as mortality
2015-02-07 17:17:48	@Espyo	also, off-topic, but why is it that when you tell Gimp to increase the selection by 1px, it does so by like 4?
2015-02-07 17:17:57	@Espyo	mortality IS also another thing
2015-02-07 17:18:07	@J	not sure how you're doing it
2015-02-07 17:18:12	@J	with the mouse just zoom in?
2015-02-07 17:18:13	@Espyo	selection > grow
2015-02-07 17:18:17	@J	oh
2015-02-07 17:18:21	@Espyo	how
2015-02-07 17:18:23	@Espyo	zoom?
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2015-02-07 17:18:27	@Espyo	what in the world did you think I...
2015-02-07 17:18:31	@J	no, I thought you were dragging out a rect
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2015-02-07 17:18:40	@Espyo	oh
2015-02-07 17:18:41	@J	and struggling to make it pixel perfect
2015-02-07 17:18:52	@J	but yeah, I've never exactly counted pixels with grow
2015-02-07 17:19:05	@Espyo	let me count, actually
2015-02-07 17:19:16	@J	works fine here
2015-02-07 17:19:22	@J	depends on your selection, I guess
2015-02-07 17:19:35	@J	it radiates out 1px, so a circle becomes 2px wider
2015-02-07 17:19:47	@Espyo	weird, I tried 1px too, and it DID grow to 3x3
2015-02-07 17:20:02	@Espyo	hm, might've just been me
2015-02-07 17:20:04	@J	if your selection is fuzzy, the change might not be clearly represented by the dotted lines
2015-02-07 17:20:11	@Espyo	yeah
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2015-02-07 18:25:26	Yoshi2	the worst part about fixing the typos is that I have no idea about some of the technical details of the game
2015-02-07 18:25:55	Yoshi2	so I am not sure if I should say that a OoT map contains one scene file, or several scene files
2015-02-07 18:26:28	Yoshi2	"These data are located in each scene file for each map." could suggest either of the two
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2015-02-07 20:41:16	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Bladed Beeb by AeroBlaze777 (+51 /* Gallery */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Bladed_Beeb&curid=11625&diff=144650&oldid=144648
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2015-02-07 20:47:45	@J	`/media/Data/VM/shared/farragone-win-0.1.1-next.zip
2015-02-07 20:47:48	@J	...
2015-02-07 20:47:50	@J	http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/farragone-win-0.1.1-next.zip
2015-02-07 20:47:56	@J	always get the wrong clipboard
2015-02-07 20:48:26	@J	so yeah, please test
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2015-02-07 20:56:32	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 2 by CraftedPbody (+19 /* Captain stuck in pipe */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_2&curid=8423&diff=144652&oldid=144651
2015-02-07 20:56:32	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Bulblord statue 2.jpg uploaded by CreativeSushi (NitendoLand Bulblord statue stance 2) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Bulblord_statue_2.jpg
2015-02-07 20:56:33	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] (Plus some other changes, that have been omitted to avoid flooding.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges
2015-02-07 20:56:55	UltraMario	hi
2015-02-07 21:00:47	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-07 21:01:27	UltraMario	hey do you remember how windows ripped me off with that cd player thing? :P
2015-02-07 21:01:39	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Glitches in Pikmin 2 by CraftedPbody (0 /* Enemy-related */) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Glitches_in_Pikmin_2&curid=8423&diff=144655&oldid=144654
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2015-02-08 00:01:14	Testyo	Hey everyone!
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2015-02-08 00:16:11	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Joustmite by 71.192.10.237 (+186) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Joustmite&curid=8263&diff=144664&oldid=143784
2015-02-08 00:31:15	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Lithopod family by 71.192.10.237 (+75) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Lithopod_family&curid=935&diff=144665&oldid=144288
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2015-02-08 09:37:48	@J	hey, did you test the Windows build the other day?
2015-02-08 09:40:01	Yoshi2	I haven't tested any windows builds lately
2015-02-08 09:40:29	@J	would you mind doing so?
2015-02-08 09:41:40	Yoshi2	sure
2015-02-08 09:41:50	@J	[20:47:50] @J http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/farragone-win-0.1.1-next.zip
2015-02-08 09:42:12	@J	mainly test it works, since I only tested it on a VM with the dependencies installed
2015-02-08 09:42:31	@J	but if you have any design advice/feature requests, great
2015-02-08 09:43:22	Yoshi2	the size of the file is suprisingly big
2015-02-08 09:43:34	@J	yeah, because it has to include lots of stuff
2015-02-08 09:43:38	@J	Qt is large
2015-02-08 09:44:00	@J	there's a unicode library that's around 20MiB that I managed to shrink to 100KiB, and it's still this big
2015-02-08 09:44:31	@J	by comparison, the source is 40KiB
2015-02-08 09:45:05	@J	oh, and I also have to include an icon set because Windows doesn't expose its system icons to non-Windows languages/UI toolkits
2015-02-08 09:45:20	@J	I _could_ strip that down to only the icons I actually use, but that's work
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2015-02-08 09:47:57	@J	on an unrelated note, when are you going to fix your internet?
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2015-02-08 09:48:59	Yoshi2_	J: I am able to start the program
2015-02-08 09:49:29	Yoshi2_	I'll fix my internet as soon as I can be bothered to yell at the ISP
2015-02-08 09:51:30	Yoshi2_	the readme file has a not very helpful bit of information about the usage of the program, maybe it should include some information about what each part of the program does?
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2015-02-08 09:59:39	Yoshi2	well, I'll be back later when the connection is (hopefully) more stable
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2015-02-08 10:00:46	Yoshi2	in other news, I managed to rename a bunch of files with the program, so I guess it works too
2015-02-08 10:01:08	Yoshi2	one thing I noticed is that the program will try to rename a file to $name, if the regex doesn't match the filename
2015-02-08 10:01:39	Yoshi2	maybe it shouldn't rename a file at all if the regex doesn't match the filename
2015-02-08 10:02:19	Yoshi2	that's all I can say about the program right now, going to learn for my exam now, see you later
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2015-02-08 11:03:09	Yoshi2	no disconnects for almost an hour, this might be good
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2015-02-08 11:40:12	Yoshi2	hm, farragone will not rename a file if the destination path already exist
2015-02-08 11:40:37	Yoshi2	which means that if a regex match fails and it tries to rename a file to $name.something, it will only rename one file like that and then stop
2015-02-08 11:48:54	@J	oh, you're back
2015-02-08 11:48:57	@J	...me too
2015-02-08 11:49:35	@J	yeah, so I was thinking of having a warnings tab/pane on the right to indicate when your setup is wrong, including unknown fields
2015-02-08 11:50:30	@J	possibly if you try to run and there are warnings you have to confirm?
2015-02-08 11:51:08	Yoshi2	that does sound good
2015-02-08 11:51:37	@J	regarding readme/help, that's on the todo list - I intend to do a 'what's this?' sort of thing where you click a button then click part of the UI
2015-02-08 11:51:54	@J	no-one reads readmes anyway
2015-02-08 11:52:29	@J	AFK, back in about 20 minutes
2015-02-08 11:52:32	Yoshi2	"Regex mismatch: None of the patterns match the file XYZ! [Continue (at your own risk)] [Abort]"
2015-02-08 11:52:38	Yoshi2	I read readmes :(
2015-02-08 12:05:14	@J	well, hardly anyone
2015-02-08 12:05:52	@J	well, it would be more general
2015-02-08 12:06:48	@J	"Field 'name' is empty for file 'aoeu' (source: regular expression '(.*)...')"
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2015-02-08 12:07:44	Testyo	Hello everyone!
2015-02-08 12:07:47	@J	but yeah, I also have a million other types of warnings
2015-02-08 12:08:25	@J	http://sprunge.us/VNWF this is what I had written down already
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2015-02-08 12:08:30	Yoshi2	hm, yeah, a more general warning might be better
2015-02-08 12:08:49	Yoshi2	hey Espyo & Testyo 
2015-02-08 12:08:50	Testyo	in other news, on the waypoints would take into consideration all locations and obstacles
2015-02-08 12:09:17	@J	Testyo knows how to change the topic
2015-02-08 12:09:18	Testyo	I get a few do
2015-02-08 12:13:43	@Espyo	hi
2015-02-08 12:14:00	@Espyo	his sentences are so... messed up here
2015-02-08 12:14:13	@Espyo	on another network, almost everything he says seems like an actual thing a person would say
2015-02-08 12:14:20	@Espyo	it's using the same mixing algorithm for both
2015-02-08 12:15:04	Yoshi2	well, maybe users on this network are not persons
2015-02-08 12:16:01	Yoshi2	Testyo: say something else
2015-02-08 12:16:01	Testyo	something else
2015-02-08 12:16:06	Yoshi2	ehm
2015-02-08 12:16:12	Yoshi2	Testyo: something else
2015-02-08 12:16:13	Testyo	whoever added that must've picked a long time to kill
2015-02-08 12:16:27	Yoshi2	well, that seems like something a person could say
2015-02-08 12:16:42	Yoshi2	maybe it is just pure luck
2015-02-08 12:19:24	Yoshi2	I have yet so see evidence that testyo puts more thought into the sentences here than "oh, those two sentences use the same word, better put them together"
2015-02-08 12:19:25	Testyo	yeah, they're facing it
2015-02-08 12:21:39	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> Testyo: say something else
2015-02-08 12:21:39	@Espyo	<Testyo> something else
2015-02-08 12:21:39	Testyo	it sounds like a lot of those mayflash adapters :P
2015-02-08 12:21:40	Testyo	and boom, I had that for a while
2015-02-08 12:21:43	@Espyo	I'll never NOT like this feature
2015-02-08 12:22:02	@Espyo	<Yoshi2> I have yet so see evidence that testyo puts more thought into the sentences here than "oh, those two sentences use the same word, better put them together"
2015-02-08 12:22:03	Testyo	Oh for me it's it's a non-registered channel
2015-02-08 12:22:03	@Espyo	but
2015-02-08 12:22:06	@Espyo	that's exactly what he does
2015-02-08 12:22:42	Yoshi2	in that case it might be just pure luck
2015-02-08 12:23:20	@J	Testyo lm
2015-02-08 12:23:20	Testyo	I said Oh for me it's it's a non-registered channel because Espyo mentioned my name. This random message came from the messages Oh for me it's the Pikmin short movies logo and for some other clients, it's a non-registered channel.
2015-02-08 12:23:38	@J	nice job
2015-02-08 12:23:38	Yoshi2	that should not happen
2015-02-08 12:24:01	Yoshi2	it cut the sentence in two and slammed them together, even though it's appears in both sentences
2015-02-08 12:24:10	Yoshi2	very odd
2015-02-08 12:24:22	@Espyo	http://pastebin.com/mHieux7M
2015-02-08 12:24:23	Testyo	7 m = 7.6552 yd / 22.9656 ft / 368.421 Olimar-heights
2015-02-08 12:24:56	@Espyo	http://pastebin.com/ypEMGeRa
2015-02-08 12:30:59	Yoshi2	I find that code to be a bit odd to read
2015-02-08 12:32:47	Yoshi2	what does the merge function do?
2015-02-08 12:32:48	@Espyo	probably is
2015-02-08 12:32:53	@Espyo	it's the second pastebin
2015-02-08 12:33:29	Yoshi2	that shows the merge_sentence function
2015-02-08 12:33:33	Yoshi2	which uses a merge function
2015-02-08 12:33:41	Yoshi2	which seems to take three arguments
2015-02-08 12:38:51	@Espyo	oh
2015-02-08 12:39:00	@Espyo	crud
2015-02-08 12:39:28	@Espyo	http://pastebin.com/4LKhdpSz
2015-02-08 12:45:19	Yoshi2	I feel like something about that code might be prone to bugs, but I'd have to tinker around with it on paper to be sure
2015-02-08 12:47:16	Yoshi2	if I understood it right, the merge function actually just picks out words between two offsets and puts them into a single string
2015-02-08 12:48:45	Yoshi2	I'd investigate it more right now if I didn't have to learn for my exams which already start next week 
2015-02-08 12:50:22	@Espyo	probably a lot
2015-02-08 12:50:25	@Espyo	this code is old as heck
2015-02-08 12:50:43	@Espyo	I can't even remember EXACTLY what the code does
2015-02-08 12:51:43	Yoshi2	I can almost smell an off-by-one error in the code
2015-02-08 12:55:26	@Espyo	hehe
2015-02-08 12:56:03	@J	hmm, apparently Brazilian Portuguese treats 0 as singular, and Portuguese treats it as plural?
2015-02-08 12:57:16	@Espyo	hmmmmmm...
2015-02-08 12:57:26	@Espyo	not quite sure
2015-02-08 12:57:29	@Espyo	but that doesn't sound right...
2015-02-08 12:59:26	@J	http://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/gnu/gettext/manual/html_node/Plural-forms.html
2015-02-08 13:03:02	@Espyo	how weird
2015-02-08 13:03:11	@Espyo	though it probably is true
2015-02-08 13:03:14	@Espyo	they love making up weird rules
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2015-02-08 13:03:46	Mariostar	l don't know if l should be angerd or happy.
2015-02-08 13:04:16	@Espyo	both
2015-02-08 13:05:09	Mariostar	I got to Master fortress,and my Wii remote lost its battery power.
2015-02-08 13:05:31	Mariostar	https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAACNUKE816b7Aw
2015-02-08 13:05:51	@Espyo	ouch
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2015-02-08 13:07:00	Mariostar	I should have just used the Gamepad,it feels more comfortable to me now in Smash compared to the Classic controller,but oh no,l needed a HD screen.
2015-02-08 13:07:08	Mariostar	Hey Ultimate.
2015-02-08 13:07:19	Ultimate	Hi Mariostar!
2015-02-08 13:07:39	Mariostar	I want to punch someone...
2015-02-08 13:07:55	Ultimate	Ok...
2015-02-08 13:08:31	Yoshi2	do what I do
2015-02-08 13:08:33	Mariostar	I want to Smash my Wii remote.
2015-02-08 13:08:45	Yoshi2	punch something that does not break
2015-02-08 13:08:51	Mariostar	See what l did there?
2015-02-08 13:09:02	Mariostar	I made smash a noun. : D
2015-02-08 13:09:12	Yoshi2	very punny
2015-02-08 13:09:18	Mariostar	Ha.
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2015-02-08 13:25:16	MS	Hi,everybody
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2015-02-08 13:35:06	Ultimate	Umm...
2015-02-08 13:36:11	@Espyo	hmm?
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2015-02-08 13:36:28	@Espyo	k
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2015-02-08 13:36:33	Mariostar	Ultimate?
2015-02-08 13:36:45	Yoshi2	we will never know what happened to Ultimate
2015-02-08 13:36:46	@Espyo	just left
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2015-02-08 13:37:12	Mariostar	He just gave me a PM.
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2015-02-08 15:14:04	@J	okay, translation system finished
2015-02-08 15:14:44	@J	apparently there are only 138 words
2015-02-08 15:15:44	@J	...Espyo, you're never busy, right?
2015-02-08 15:15:50	@Espyo	nnnnnnnyeah
2015-02-08 15:16:19	@J	okay, good
2015-02-08 15:17:09	@J	https://github.com/ikn/farragone/blob/master/i18n/po/messages.pot template https://github.com/ikn/farragone/blob/master/i18n/po/en_GB.po example
2015-02-08 15:18:11	@Espyo	seems weird to have a "last-translator" tag
2015-02-08 15:18:16	@Espyo	one person can do it all
2015-02-08 15:18:21	@Espyo	and then somebody comes and fixes one typo
2015-02-08 15:18:29	@Espyo	and the person who did the most work stops being credited anywhere
2015-02-08 15:18:51	@J	yeah, I don't know
2015-02-08 15:18:57	@J	that's what the thing generated
2015-02-08 15:19:19	@Espyo	also, I've checked around
2015-02-08 15:19:33	@Espyo	and no, BR Portuguese still uses 0 "things", just like European Portuguese
2015-02-08 15:20:16	@J	oh, the actual credits happens by translating a 'translator-credits' string (which I haven't got yet because there's no About dialogue)
2015-02-08 15:20:36	@Espyo	...there's also a huge comment at the start of the file with the first translator
2015-02-08 15:20:39	@J	hmm, weird that it would be listed as different, then
2015-02-08 15:21:14	@J	I think that's meant to have all authors
2015-02-08 15:21:19	@J	ie. you add a line for each new author
2015-02-08 15:21:38	@J	I don't know what the last-translator thing actually does, if anything
2015-02-08 15:21:43	@Espyo	hm
2015-02-08 15:21:51	@Espyo	also, last-translator wants my full name
2015-02-08 15:21:58	@Espyo	yeah, no, I'm happy just sharing my first and last name
2015-02-08 15:22:19	@J	that's all it means
2015-02-08 15:22:44	@J	'full name' can mean just first and last, depends on context really
2015-02-08 15:23:06	@J	you're reading too much into the template placeholders
2015-02-08 15:23:41	@Espyo	hm
2015-02-08 15:24:16	@Espyo	wait, what would language-team be?
2015-02-08 15:25:08	@Espyo	also, now comes the part where I need contexts
2015-02-08 15:25:12	@Espyo	destination exists: {}
2015-02-08 15:25:14	@Espyo	^?
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2015-02-08 15:28:14	@J	I just removed language-team
2015-02-08 15:28:35	@Espyo	hm
2015-02-08 15:28:37	@Espyo	hey Kirby
2015-02-08 15:28:45	@J	destination file
2015-02-08 15:28:49	Kirbyddd	Hey.
2015-02-08 15:28:59	@J	yeah, let me know if any aren't clear and I'll add notes
2015-02-08 15:29:05	@J	Kirbyddd: hi
2015-02-08 15:29:28	@Espyo	we should probably delay the translation then
2015-02-08 15:29:34	@Espyo	how are you Kirby?
2015-02-08 15:29:44	@J	yeah, there's no runch
2015-02-08 15:29:45	@J	*rush
2015-02-08 15:29:48	Kirbyddd	Pretty good.  You?
2015-02-08 15:29:49	@J	what a typo
2015-02-08 15:30:04	@Espyo	feeling fine
2015-02-08 15:30:14	@Espyo	ok, so, the wikia...
2015-02-08 15:30:23	Kirbyddd	Right.
2015-02-08 15:30:29	@Espyo	we understand your view
2015-02-08 15:30:39	@Espyo	nobody can deny that a LOT of people go to the wikia instead of Pikipedia
2015-02-08 15:30:51	@Espyo	almost all of them don't even realize that Pikipedia is a thing
2015-02-08 15:31:17	@Espyo	but keeping the wikia alive...
2015-02-08 15:31:22	@Espyo	it has the pro of making people not think we're lazy
2015-02-08 15:31:28	@Espyo	but it has the con of destroying the entire purpose
2015-02-08 15:31:33	@Espyo	so...
2015-02-08 15:31:41	@Espyo	it's neither the right nor the wrong thing to do
2015-02-08 15:31:50	@Espyo	that's why we have to try to come up with some alternative
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2015-02-08 15:32:02	Kirbyddd	The welcome message should be changed.
2015-02-08 15:32:15	@Espyo	what're your suggestions?
2015-02-08 15:33:10	Kirbyddd	The one that says "Welcome to the Pikmin Wiki, if you need any help contact [Admin].
2015-02-08 15:33:24	Kirbyddd	After your first edit.
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2015-02-08 15:33:48	@Espyo	oh, right
2015-02-08 15:33:54	@Espyo	well, what would you say we change it to?
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2015-02-08 15:35:00	Kirbyddd	Something like about the community moving to Pikipedia and the information being nearly the same.  I explained it to someone earlier.
2015-02-08 15:35:11	@Espyo	I probably wasn't there
2015-02-08 15:35:24	@Espyo	it's a good idea, but there's one big problem
2015-02-08 15:35:27	@Espyo	the wikia staff is stubborn
2015-02-08 15:35:36	@Espyo	they refuse to let us point to people that we've moved
2015-02-08 15:35:45	@Espyo	they want to hold people in, and refuse to let us point out an alternative
2015-02-08 15:35:53	@Espyo	if we changed the message, soon after, they'd revert it
2015-02-08 15:36:34	Kirbyddd	Right.  That's why I wanted to adopt.  That, and some people are making new useless pages.
2015-02-08 15:37:03	@Espyo	plus, only around 5% of the people that read actually edit, so only those 5% would see the message
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2015-02-08 15:37:21	@Espyo	what do you envision would happen when you adopted it?
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2015-02-08 15:41:30	Kirbyddd	I wanted to keep it acceptable while maintaining a partnership with Pikipedia.  The message would tell people about the community and information over here, but wouldn't drive them away from the Pikmin Wiki, hopefully keeping Wikia happy.  Plus, people who are just reading won't affect the community or anything else, really, since they aren't interacting.
2015-02-08 15:42:16	@Espyo	you hosting the wiki wouldn't make a difference for wikia
2015-02-08 15:42:20	@Espyo	they would remove the note
2015-02-08 15:42:32	@Espyo	I don't know if you read the backstory, but we did have a warning up on the main page
2015-02-08 15:42:37	@Espyo	they forced us to remove it before long
2015-02-08 15:42:53	@Espyo	you have to understand Kirby, wikia does not care about the communities or the wikis
2015-02-08 15:42:56	@Espyo	it cares only about market share
2015-02-08 15:43:06	@Espyo	if something is stopping people from entering wikia, they will remove it
2015-02-08 15:43:14	@Espyo	and they will remove anything that attempts to drive people away
2015-02-08 15:43:26	@Espyo	they don't care for the best interest of the community, the reader's information, nothing
2015-02-08 15:43:36	@Espyo	and also, the readers do affect
2015-02-08 15:43:51	@Espyo	by having people even open up a wikia page, it increases wikia's popularity
2015-02-08 15:43:56	@Espyo	amongst other things, on search engine
2015-02-08 15:43:59	@Espyo	*search engines
2015-02-08 15:44:00	@Espyo	like google
2015-02-08 15:44:15	@Espyo	one of the most fatal things that lead to the wikia being reborn by the time of Pikmin 3 was google, by far
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2015-02-08 15:44:25	@Espyo	any search for "pikmin" and "wiki" would bring up wikia first
2015-02-08 15:44:38	@Espyo	google's algorithms rank the pages by how often they're visited
2015-02-08 15:44:54	@Espyo	just having people visit wikia more makes it more popular, which makes more people visit it, and it's an endless cycle
2015-02-08 15:45:03	@Espyo	a spiral that drags Pikipedia further down
2015-02-08 15:45:22	@Espyo	plus, your solution to maintain the Pikmin wikia and become the new owner would just create a new community
2015-02-08 15:45:30	@Espyo	unless you wanted to control the wikia alone
2015-02-08 15:45:38	@Espyo	in which case, it won't happen, because that's against wikia's rules
2015-02-08 15:45:42	@Espyo	meaning other people would join you
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2015-02-08 15:45:54	@Espyo	and once again, we'd end up in exactly the same situation where Pikipedia is hidden over the massive wikia
2015-02-08 15:46:07	@Espyo	no amount of warnings to tell people to go to Pikipedia would have a significant impact
2015-02-08 15:46:13	@Espyo	but that's even ASSUMING the warnings would exist
2015-02-08 15:46:16	@Espyo	which, again, they wouldn't
2015-02-08 15:46:22	@Espyo	wikia just wouldn't let them happen
2015-02-08 15:46:31	@Espyo	specially if their wiki starts growing in popularity again
2015-02-08 15:49:26	Kirbyddd	Right, but Pikipedia and the Pikmin Wiki would always be the top two.  I don't want to "own" the Pikmin Wiki or run it alone.  There are plenty of people helping out right now who don't make blog posts or comments.  The one that kept asking for feedback didn't know about Pikipedia so I told him.  Wikia hasn't messed with my front-page note since I put it up,
2015-02-08 15:49:50	Kirbyddd	altough I don't know if that's because they haven't checked the wiki recently.
2015-02-08 15:49:59	@J	[15:44:38] @Espyo google's algorithms rank the pages by how often they're visited
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2015-02-08 15:50:10	@J	not really, it's more based on which websites link to the page
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2015-02-08 15:50:45	@Espyo	not so much "top two" as "only two"
2015-02-08 15:50:47	@J	though of course if people visit one site more, they'll link to it more
2015-02-08 15:50:49	@Espyo	but the thing is, they aren't meant to be two
2015-02-08 15:50:54	@Espyo	our long-term goal is to have one wiki
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2015-02-08 15:51:42	@Espyo	pretty sure the ranking system is also based on result clicks
2015-02-08 15:51:57	@Espyo	or at the very least, was, for years
2015-02-08 15:52:06	@Espyo	and Kirby, wikia will eventually notice the notice
2015-02-08 15:52:18	@Espyo	they did before, when we were doing impulsive things during the merge
2015-02-08 15:52:31	@Espyo	like putting up a similar notice before any discussion with them even happened
2015-02-08 15:52:37	UltraMario	kirby wikia is cool
2015-02-08 15:52:45	@Espyo	I'd guess they do random checkups
2015-02-08 15:52:52	@Espyo	well, but we're not on about the Kirby wikia
2015-02-08 15:53:05	UltraMario	wikirby on the other hand is full of stubs and red links.
2015-02-08 15:53:05	UltraMario	yeah i know :P
2015-02-08 15:53:17	@Espyo	because they had few supporters
2015-02-08 15:53:18	UltraMario	just saying my opinion. ^^
2015-02-08 15:53:24	@Espyo	and we won't want the same thing to happen
2015-02-08 15:53:28	@Espyo	we've fought hard to be independent
2015-02-08 15:53:32	@Espyo	and to create a better encyclopedia
2015-02-08 15:53:44	@Espyo	we don't want people to have to stoop down to using a wikia
2015-02-08 15:54:50	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Bug-Eyed Crawmad by 71.192.10.237 (+523) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Bug-Eyed_Crawmad&curid=9502&diff=144675&oldid=144534
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2015-02-08 15:58:06	Kirbyddd	Sorry, my browser crashed.
2015-02-08 15:58:18	Kirbyddd	Give me a moment to retype.
2015-02-08 15:58:51	@Espyo	okay
2015-02-08 16:02:05	Kirbyddd	If they do mess with it I will have a word with them.  Wikia won't let their wiki be taken down, and I'm not the kind of person who would let a noter wiki that I was part of go to ruin.  I've been trying a different tactic than Pikipedia: I tell people about Pikipedia, but don't try to force them to leave.  If I tell them that both wikis have the information,
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2015-02-08 16:03:18	Kirbyddd	but Pikipedia has the community, they will know where to go.  If I also tell them that the Pikmin wiki is still active in upkeep, though, Wikia will be happier.
2015-02-08 16:03:50	@Espyo	that's just it, Pikipedia doesn't quite have the communtiy
2015-02-08 16:03:53	@Espyo	we're trying to
2015-02-08 16:04:00	@Espyo	but with people not making the definite move, it won't happen
2015-02-08 16:04:17	@Espyo	also, you still keep the idea that Pikmin Wiki is the place you grew up with, and Pikipedia isn't
2015-02-08 16:04:22	@Espyo	Pikipedia is Pikmin Wiki
2015-02-08 16:04:24	@Espyo	we've merged
2015-02-08 16:04:57	@Espyo	you telling wikia that it's in upkeep (whether you keep it in upkeep or not) won't make a difference to them keeping a warning up or not
2015-02-08 16:05:13	@Espyo	we've had a warning when we moved out the first time, we've had a warning when we moved out the second time, and they kept removing it
2015-02-08 16:06:47	Testyo	I was ok
2015-02-08 16:07:05	Kirbyddd	"Umm... this wiki has moved.  Go to Pikipedia" isn't the most warm way to let people know.  I haven't seen anyone except a few new users talking.  And yes I know we're the same wiki.
2015-02-08 16:07:26	@Espyo	how is it not the most warm way?
2015-02-08 16:07:35	@Espyo	we've got the information and the community over at Pikipedia
2015-02-08 16:07:40	@Espyo	people are doing nothing by staying at wikia
2015-02-08 16:07:43	@Espyo	we're just informing them
2015-02-08 16:08:03	@Espyo	only way to be warmer would be to add some exclamation marks to not sound so "corporate business"-y
2015-02-08 16:10:38	Kirbyddd	It is telling people to leave, not informing them.  Of course wikia didn't like it.  My message says "The Pikmin Wiki has merged with Pikipedia, a NIWA wiki. Go here to create an account and help! The Pikmin Wiki will remain functional but not much new content is needed."  It might have to be changed later if wikis is still unhappy with it, but it is a lot 
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2015-02-08 16:11:12	@Espyo	there are a couple of problems, though
2015-02-08 16:11:21	Kirbyddd	more informative than the previous one.  It doesn't make people feel like they have to leave.
2015-02-08 16:11:29	@Espyo	for the most part, people just do a google search for the topic they want and access the result they find
2015-02-08 16:11:32	@Espyo	bypassing the front page
2015-02-08 16:12:01	@Espyo	secondly, implying this would work, and people would finally stop going on wikia, and everybody would be happy on Pikipedia...
2015-02-08 16:12:03	Kirbyddd	I always search the overall title and add wiki.
2015-02-08 16:12:10	@Espyo	what would be the point of you keeping the wikia clean?
2015-02-08 16:12:23	@Espyo	so do I, when I don't know what wikis exist for the topic I want
2015-02-08 16:13:13	Kirbyddd	I'm not that kind of person.  It only takes a few minutes a day, or every other day.
2015-02-08 16:13:30	Kirbyddd	It's not very active.
2015-02-08 16:14:46	Kirbyddd	And with the message, new users would know to come here for something more active.
2015-02-08 16:14:51	@Espyo	not what kind of person?
2015-02-08 16:15:07	Kirbyddd	I don't like to let things go to waste.
2015-02-08 16:15:43	Kirbyddd	When it can easily be avoided.
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2015-02-08 16:17:52	@Espyo	then that problem lies with you, not anything else
2015-02-08 16:17:59	@Espyo	are you a hoarder?
2015-02-08 16:18:30	Kirbyddd	In RPGs.  Let's not stoop to insults.
2015-02-08 16:19:40	@Espyo	I wasn't going to
2015-02-08 16:19:48	@Espyo	people shouldn't be using hoarder as an insult
2015-02-08 16:19:51	@Espyo	anyway, this isn't an RPG
2015-02-08 16:20:12	Kirbyddd	It's information.
2015-02-08 16:20:27	@Espyo	precisely
2015-02-08 16:20:32	@Espyo	it is in no way going to waste
2015-02-08 16:20:40	@Espyo	if the wikia were to be deleted right now, it wouldn't go to waste
2015-02-08 16:20:45	@Espyo	as the information is entirely on Pikipedia
2015-02-08 16:21:46	Kirbyddd	Right, but it would be going to waste if the Pikmin Wiki were in ruins.
2015-02-08 16:22:00	Kirbyddd	It's discouraging.
2015-02-08 16:23:11	@Espyo	how would it?
2015-02-08 16:23:13	@Espyo	it's the same concept
2015-02-08 16:23:17	@Espyo	the information is at Pikipedia
2015-02-08 16:23:27	@Espyo	whether the wikia is vandalized, deleted, etc.
2015-02-08 16:23:42	@Espyo	and how is it discouraging to have the actual community fight for independence?
2015-02-08 16:26:29	Kirbyddd	The community has independence.  It's here.  So there's no point in letting the Pikmin Wiki go to waste.  Nobody there is talking or conspiring.  We're all dedicated to keeping the place presentable.  Trying to keep people from fixing vandalism is no better than doing the vandalism.
2015-02-08 16:28:55	@Espyo	that's just it, the community is not entirely here
2015-02-08 16:28:57	@Espyo	I said that already
2015-02-08 16:29:04	@Espyo	we're trying to have everybody come to Pikipedia only
2015-02-08 16:29:09	@Espyo	loads of people still go on wikia
2015-02-08 16:32:46	Kirbyddd	But to read.  That won't harm Pikipedia.  If a couple thousand people suddenly appeared right now and went on the Pikmin Wiki just to read, the worst it could do is push Pikipedia below it on the search page.  And if that caused a few people to join afterwards, they would have a message sent to them telling them about Pikipedia.  There are not enough people
2015-02-08 16:32:50	Kirbyddd	to do that.
2015-02-08 16:33:09	Kirbyddd	And those who don't just read are keeping the place running.
2015-02-08 16:33:48	@Espyo	"those who don't just read"
2015-02-08 16:33:52	@Espyo	I'm not getting this one, can you rephrase?
2015-02-08 16:35:39	Kirbyddd	Some people just read.  Some people also edit.  The people with an active editing account are only keeping the place running.
2015-02-08 16:36:02	@Espyo	on where? Pikipedia or the wikia?
2015-02-08 16:36:28	Kirbyddd	Wikia.
2015-02-08 16:37:25	@Espyo	well, yeah, but we don't really want people to just keep the place running
2015-02-08 16:37:29	@Espyo	we want people to come to Pikipedia instead
2015-02-08 16:39:08	Kirbyddd	That's not the point of a wiki.  There shouldn't be competition, as long as people get their information its all good.  If people want a community, they can come to Pikipedia.  Competition is what created this mess.
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2015-02-08 16:40:44	@Espyo	precisely
2015-02-08 16:40:51	@Espyo	if we have editors on wikia, and editors on Pikipedia
2015-02-08 16:40:53	@Espyo	boom, competition
2015-02-08 16:42:27	Kirbyddd	Not really.  People at the Pikmin Wiki don't have anything against Pikipedia.  Everyone else is just keeping the place running, and I'm actually trying to send people here.
2015-02-08 16:43:16	@Espyo	YOU are
2015-02-08 16:43:24	@Espyo	the rest will not
2015-02-08 16:43:33	@Espyo	as soon as people start staying on wikia and refusing to move to Pikipedia
2015-02-08 16:43:39	@Espyo	they will begin creating their own community
2015-02-08 16:43:42	@Espyo	and no, this isn't me being negative
2015-02-08 16:43:47	@Espyo	this is what STARTED this whole thing
2015-02-08 16:43:56	@Espyo	we told people to come to Pikipedia
2015-02-08 16:43:58	@Espyo	it was no use
2015-02-08 16:44:01	@Espyo	people stayed at wikia
2015-02-08 16:44:08	@Espyo	and with time, and Pikmin 3 news, it grew
2015-02-08 16:44:14	@Espyo	it grew to competition, there is no shade of doubt about it
2015-02-08 16:44:37	@Espyo	even if you are just trying to be a janitor and redirect people to Pikipedia
2015-02-08 16:44:44	@Espyo	the ones that stay on the wikia regardless will destroy everything
2015-02-08 16:46:01	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Tropical Forest Remix 1.jpg uploaded by Piktoad (A Fiery Blowhog in front of 50 Nuggets.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Tropical_Forest_Remix_1.jpg
2015-02-08 16:48:32	Kirbyddd	No one has revolted yet.  Pikipedia now has the whole of the active Pikmin Wiki community, and its information.  The first time Pikipedia was small, and the Pikmin Wiki had users waiting to come back.  The circumstances would be different next time.  The message to new users would also prevent a lot of it.
2015-02-08 16:49:08	@Espyo	what do you mean revolted?
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2015-02-08 16:49:59	Kirbyddd	If people tried to form a new community and refused to leave.
2015-02-08 16:50:37	@Espyo	yes, they haven't "revolted" yet
2015-02-08 16:50:39	@Espyo	but they will
2015-02-08 16:50:43	@Espyo	it happened before, it will happen again
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2015-02-08 16:52:32	Kirbyddd	Pikipedia is no longer the lesser force though.  The community rise would be bigger here, it would be nowhere near the Pikmin 3 situation on the Pikmin Wiki.  Again, the message to new users would prevent a lot of the trouble.
2015-02-08 16:53:01	@Espyo	that's what we thought before
2015-02-08 16:53:05	@Espyo	and look what happened
2015-02-08 16:56:49	Kirbyddd	The community here was small and the Pikmin Wiki was full of inactive users waiting to return.  The Pikmin wiki Community remained mostly active after Pikmin 3, and now Pikipedia has them.  There's now only a very small amount of "sleeping" Pikmin Wiki users and again, new users would not be a huge problem.
2015-02-08 16:59:03	@Espyo	why are you so convinced that new users wouldn't be a problem?
2015-02-08 16:59:11	@Espyo	and you must think that the Pikipedia community is huge
2015-02-08 16:59:22	@Espyo	we have less than 20 people, Kirby
2015-02-08 16:59:30	@Espyo	other than that, we have the occasional editors
2015-02-08 16:59:39	@Espyo	either anons or people who create an account, fix things a few times, and leave
2015-02-08 16:59:45	@Espyo	it's pretty much on par with wikia's current activity
2015-02-08 17:01:24	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] File:Tropical Forest Remix 2.jpg uploaded by Piktoad (A [[Red Bulborb|Bulborb]], [[Fragments]], Nuggets and [[Dawn Pustules]] in the T...) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=File:Tropical_Forest_Remix_2.jpg
2015-02-08 17:01:51	Kirbyddd	We have no talking community, and our editors our three or four, essentially rotating.  Some might edit for a few weeks, then move on, and someone else takes their place.  We have also had a few one-time editors.
2015-02-08 17:02:32	Kirbyddd	by essentially I mean "It's as if they are"
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2015-02-08 17:03:35	@Espyo	yeah, same as Pikipedia, except Pikipedia boasts like 15 more
2015-02-08 17:03:46	@Espyo	...15 that are like "current" with the wiki
2015-02-08 17:03:53	@Espyo	out of which only like 5 are actual regular editors
2015-02-08 17:04:03	@Espyo	don't underestimate the power of a new game
2015-02-08 17:04:12	@Espyo	a new Pikmin game will be released
2015-02-08 17:04:24	@Espyo	and when it is, if people are to stay on wikia, it will destroy everything again
2015-02-08 17:08:26	Kirbyddd	You are much more popular than the Pikmin Wiki, and now above us on the search engine.  You will likely be visited first by new users, and all users, new and returning, on the Pikmin Wiki will be told about Pikipedia.  Also, don't overestimate Nintendo.  Miyamoto first said they were working on Pikmin 3 many years before it's announcement, and then it was
2015-02-08 17:08:36	Kirbyddd	delayed for a few more years.
2015-02-08 17:08:51	@Espyo	>You are much more popular than the Pikmin Wiki
2015-02-08 17:08:53	@Espyo	lies
2015-02-08 17:09:02	@Espyo	>and now above us on the search engine
2015-02-08 17:09:04	@Espyo	also lies
2015-02-08 17:09:54	Kirbyddd	My search engine shows you above Pikmin Wiki, and I'm not using my computer.
2015-02-08 17:10:28	Kirbyddd	google
2015-02-08 17:10:38	@Espyo	google skewers results
2015-02-08 17:10:42	@Espyo	duck duck go doesn't
2015-02-08 17:10:43	@Espyo	let's try that
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2015-02-08 17:10:59	@Espyo	"pikmin wiki"
2015-02-08 17:11:01	@Espyo	first result is wikia
2015-02-08 17:11:03	@Espyo	second is Pikipedia
2015-02-08 17:11:06	@Espyo	let's try random terms
2015-02-08 17:11:19	@Espyo	bulborb: wikia first, Pikipedia 2nd
2015-02-08 17:11:45	@Espyo	water dumple: same
2015-02-08 17:11:46	Yoshi2	when I go into incognito mode, pikipedia is the 5th result or so
2015-02-08 17:11:50	@J	some random terms are higher on Pikipedia
2015-02-08 17:11:52	@J	like Olimar
2015-02-08 17:11:57	@Espyo	awakening wood: I can't even see Pikipedia
2015-02-08 17:11:57	Kirbyddd	Alright.  I'll give you that.  I tried bing too.
2015-02-08 17:12:20	@Espyo	I... actually CAN'T see Pikipedia if I search awakening wood
2015-02-08 17:12:32	@Espyo	it's on the 2nd page, good grief
2015-02-08 17:12:37	Kirbyddd	try your google
2015-02-08 17:12:37	@Espyo	then again, it is a sort of generic term
2015-02-08 17:12:40	@Espyo	I will
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2015-02-08 17:13:11	@Espyo	awakening wood gives wikia first, then loads of videos, Pikipedia not even on the 2nd page
2015-02-08 17:13:17	@Espyo	let me try olimar
2015-02-08 17:13:22	@Espyo	...olimar.com.pt
2015-02-08 17:13:23	@Espyo	WELP
2015-02-08 17:13:30	@Espyo	now I'm actually curious
2015-02-08 17:13:47	@Espyo	industrial pieces... eh
2015-02-08 17:13:57	Yoshi2	when I search for pikmin, the tcrf page for Pikmin 1 actually comes before pikipedia
2015-02-08 17:13:58	@Espyo	olimar.de, too...
2015-02-08 17:14:08	Yoshi2	but both come after wikia
2015-02-08 17:14:17	@Espyo	the first and ONLY Nintendo Olimar result on the first page, for my google, is on SmashWiki
2015-02-08 17:14:18	Kirbyddd	pikmin wiki
2015-02-08 17:14:19	@Espyo	ridiculous
2015-02-08 17:14:37	@Espyo	let's try simply "pikmin", on google
2015-02-08 17:14:50	@Espyo	wikipedia, then nintendo, then wikia
2015-02-08 17:15:05	@Espyo	"pikmin wiki" also places wikia first
2015-02-08 17:15:08	@J	Olimar gives me Pikipedia first everywhere
2015-02-08 17:15:10	@Espyo	ugh, I hate this
2015-02-08 17:15:15	@Espyo	let me try ddg
2015-02-08 17:15:30	Kirbyddd	Are you on PC?
2015-02-08 17:15:30	@Espyo	yeah, Pikipedia is first on ddg
2015-02-08 17:15:32	@Espyo	PC, yeah
2015-02-08 17:15:42	@Espyo	shouldn't interfere, though
2015-02-08 17:16:34	Kirbyddd	Ok.
2015-02-08 17:16:41	Testyo	[Pikipedia RC] Tropical Forest Remix by Piktoad (+353 /* Gallery */Add two screenshots of the level.) http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Tropical_Forest_Remix&curid=16388&diff=144678&oldid=143345
2015-02-08 17:16:46	Yoshi2	seems like both wikis are pretty evenly tied, to say the least
2015-02-08 17:17:34	Kirbyddd	Hmm.
2015-02-08 17:18:02	@Espyo	give-or-take
2015-02-08 17:18:18	@Espyo	now we just have to strive to have Pikipedia show up first at all times
2015-02-08 17:18:22	@Espyo	or... well, mostly all
2015-02-08 17:18:30	@Espyo	stuff like "Pikmin" would always give Nintendo and Wikipedia first
2015-02-08 17:20:18	Kirbyddd	If all users left the Pikmin Wiki, a new game would still cause an uprising in users.  I would say it would be even bigger with nobody to direct them.
2015-02-08 17:23:47	@Espyo	yes, but all this is implying wikia will let you direct them
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2015-02-08 17:28:19	Kirbyddd	Not again.
2015-02-08 17:28:24	Kirbyddd	Crashed
2015-02-08 17:28:30	Kirbyddd	Just one second
2015-02-08 17:28:53	@Espyo	no worries
2015-02-08 17:31:56	Kirbyddd	Hopefully.  I was in the middle of the adoption process when my computer broke.  After it broke, I couldn't edit as often and I haven't talked to them in a while, so my chances at adopting are much lower.  But if I am able to I think I will have a better chance at explaining to them.  Jpmrocks had a hard time because he was so bitter.
2015-02-08 17:33:13	@Espyo	because none of them want to have the past happen to them again
2015-02-08 17:34:09	Kirbyddd	Wikia or Jpmrocks?
2015-02-08 17:34:35	@Espyo	Jpm + the rest of the cast
2015-02-08 17:35:08	Kirbyddd	Right.
2015-02-08 17:35:25	Kirbyddd	But being bitter will make the job a lot harder.
2015-02-08 17:36:24	@Espyo	yes
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2015-02-08 17:37:40	Kirbyddd	I think I'll have an easier time if I explain to them without acting angry.  You never know...
2015-02-08 17:38:03	@Espyo	yeah
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2015-02-08 17:38:10	@Espyo	well, we still need to reach a conclusion
2015-02-08 17:38:12	@Espyo	J?
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2015-02-08 17:50:09	Kirbyddd	Is J needed?
2015-02-08 17:52:21	@Espyo	he can help me decide
2015-02-08 17:52:26	@Espyo	he IS an important member
2015-02-08 17:53:29	Kirbyddd	Whatever you say...
2015-02-08 17:53:59	@Espyo	you can come back later, if you want
2015-02-08 17:54:06	@Espyo	or I guess I can just answer you on the wikia thread
2015-02-08 17:55:15	Kirbyddd	I guess I'll check back later.  If you're not both here you can answer on the thread.
2015-02-08 17:55:29	@Espyo	okay
2015-02-08 17:55:30	@Espyo	see ya
2015-02-08 17:55:41	Kirbyddd	bye
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2015-02-08 17:58:37	Yoshi2	I blame J for this discussion having no conclusion
2015-02-08 18:01:43	@Espyo	yes
2015-02-08 18:04:14	@J	oh hi, I still exist
2015-02-08 18:04:20	@J	I went to do some juggling
2015-02-08 18:04:44	@J	you should've said he should hang out here in future anyway
2015-02-08 18:06:21	@Espyo	eh, I suppose he knows
2015-02-08 18:06:33	Yoshi2	I don't think telling him that would change much
2015-02-08 18:07:30	Yoshi2	if there is a need to discuss stuff again, I'm sure he will return
2015-02-08 18:07:41	@J	I just mean to be friendly