2013-11-09 00:42:06 @J I need to treat grouped momentum differently 2013-11-09 00:42:28 @J maybe think about changes rather than total values 2013-11-09 00:42:53 @J but that can wait until tomorrow 2013-11-09 00:43:02 @J goodnight 2013-11-09 00:43:22 @J also, I was thinking about how collisions should work if I did rotation 2013-11-09 00:43:31 @J and also n-dimensional collision detection/resolution 2013-11-09 00:43:40 @J that would definitely be a thing 2013-11-09 00:44:04 Espyo night 2013-11-09 00:49:59 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-09 00:57:59 -- DOS is now known as DOSalad 2013-11-09 01:02:29 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-09 01:02:38 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-09 01:10:07 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 01:48:23 -- DOSalad is now known as DOS 2013-11-09 09:23:45 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 09:47:45 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-09 09:54:31 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 10:11:11 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-09 11:42:19 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-11-09 11:44:22 --> Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 12:18:34 --> Testyo (Testyo@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 12:18:35 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-09 12:23:25 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 12:43:34 @J hmm, this is weird 2013-11-09 12:43:50 @J I've only really made changes to collision resolution, but now collision detection is running slowly 2013-11-09 12:44:11 @J actually quite laggy with >~20 collisions per frame 2013-11-09 12:44:31 @J and 20 objects 2013-11-09 12:46:18 Espyo sounds like a for loop issue 2013-11-09 12:47:40 @J yeah, but I would've expected it to happen before I started making changes 2013-11-09 12:47:44 @J but it wasn't bad before 2013-11-09 12:48:13 @J it would run smoothly up to ~150 collisions per frame 2013-11-09 12:49:15 Espyo that's actually pretty good 2013-11-09 12:53:10 @J I would say it's to be expected - it's fast because it's simple, but no faster because it's Python and unoptimised 2013-11-09 12:53:47 Espyo right, I was kinda taking Python's slithering into account 2013-11-09 12:54:14 @J collision detection ATM is very brute-force 2013-11-09 12:54:44 @J I want to do resolution, the hard part, first, and if I actually manage it, _then_ optimise 2013-11-09 12:55:20 Espyo hmmm, right 2013-11-09 12:56:51 @J ...infinite loop running into a wall 2013-11-09 13:11:18 @J remaining_vel[o.shape] = [t * vx, t * vx] 2013-11-09 13:11:21 @J ...spot the typo 2013-11-09 13:11:59 Espyo t*vx, t*vx 2013-11-09 13:12:00 Espyo classic 2013-11-09 13:12:29 @J and now I have vy becoming inf when colliding with 2 walls at once 2013-11-09 13:13:59 @J ...oh 2013-11-09 13:14:19 @J because I used the absolute value of the impulse (change in momentum) to change the velocity 2013-11-09 13:14:30 @J so in one direction, everything works fine; in the other, it shoots off to infinity 2013-11-09 13:14:42 Espyo hehe 2013-11-09 13:17:32 @J okay, surprisingly, everything seems to be working fine with 2 objects 2013-11-09 13:18:04 @J ...except that friction goes in the wrong direction 2013-11-09 13:18:16 @J that's just weird to watch 2013-11-09 13:18:27 Espyo that's a really friction-thing to happen, really 2013-11-09 13:18:39 Espyo the whole going backwards thing 2013-11-09 13:39:21 @J so, currently it's possible to ignore a collision by returning True from a 'before' callback 2013-11-09 13:39:30 @J but should this be possible? 2013-11-09 13:39:48 @J it'll mess everything up, and if you don't want things to collide you should probably just put them in different layers 2013-11-09 13:39:48 Espyo doesn't really sound like it should 2013-11-09 13:40:33 @J if it's not, then the only thing the before callback really lets you do is change the combined elasticity/friction of the collision 2013-11-09 13:40:39 @J but is that even necessary? 2013-11-09 13:40:53 @J I guess if you want weird values, like depending on speed or something 2013-11-09 13:41:06 @J or some other parametr 2013-11-09 13:41:08 @J *parameter 2013-11-09 13:41:22 @J like, a rubber ball gets less bouncy as you heat it up or something 2013-11-09 13:41:29 @J (no idea if that's actually a thing) 2013-11-09 13:41:38 Espyo hmmm 2013-11-09 13:41:47 Espyo kinda sounds like it would be a thing the other way around... maybe 2013-11-09 13:42:01 Espyo ask xkcd? heh 2013-11-09 13:42:58 @J or maybe the graph's a hump with an optimal temperature 2013-11-09 13:43:05 @J anyway, is that useful? 2013-11-09 13:43:24 @J I currently have 3 callback types: before, after, and touching 2013-11-09 13:43:43 @J after is useful for playing sounds, computing damage, destroying objects, etc. 2013-11-09 13:43:52 Espyo I feel like it wouldn't be too useful, but 2013-11-09 13:44:00 Espyo ...got lunch 2013-11-09 13:44:06 @J touching is called every frame they're touching, for checking if the player can jump and things 2013-11-09 13:44:09 @J 'kay 2013-11-09 13:44:23 @J also, not sure if/how these callbacks should be called for group collisions 2013-11-09 13:45:19 @J probably for pairs that originally collided to form the group 2013-11-09 13:45:22 @J maybe 2013-11-09 14:05:25 @J ...okay, I didn't even think that maybe you went for lunch because it's lunch time 2013-11-09 14:05:29 @J sudden hungre 2013-11-09 14:05:31 @J *hunger 2013-11-09 14:13:35 Espyo hah, hungre 2013-11-09 16:24:03 @J hate floating point errors so much 2013-11-09 16:24:26 @J so I have 2 objects touching, both moving in the same direction 2013-11-09 16:24:37 @J left one has speed something like 1.123456789999 2013-11-09 16:24:45 @J right one has 1.12345678995 2013-11-09 16:25:01 @J so they collide at what equates to 0 seconds 2013-11-09 16:25:23 @J and the collision resolver doesn't make any changes to their speeds 2013-11-09 16:25:49 Espyo hehe 2013-11-09 16:26:02 @J ideas? 2013-11-09 16:26:03 Espyo isn't Python actually kinda good at dealing with floating point precision errors? 2013-11-09 16:26:06 Espyo C++ just doesn't care 2013-11-09 16:26:12 @J no better than any other language 2013-11-09 16:26:17 @J what do you mean, doesn't care? 2013-11-09 16:26:22 Espyo well, last time I had a floating point precision problem, I stopped using doubles and used floats 2013-11-09 16:26:30 Espyo because the less precise it is, the more precise it is 2013-11-09 16:26:36 @J what 2013-11-09 16:26:46 Espyo well, I figured Python did some things to avoid precision errors, whereas C++ does not 2013-11-09 16:26:49 @J mm 2013-11-09 16:26:51 Espyo yeah, my problem was solved by using floats 2013-11-09 16:26:57 @J well, there's an arbitrary precision floating point library 2013-11-09 16:27:10 @J but it's not the kind of thing you use for this stuff 2013-11-09 16:27:14 Espyo of course 2013-11-09 16:27:19 @J more for adding money amounts 2013-11-09 16:27:34 @J it uses some algorithm in generating strings from floats to reduce errors there 2013-11-09 16:27:47 @J but for the actual representation there's not much you can do 2013-11-09 16:28:04 Espyo right 2013-11-09 16:28:08 Espyo hmm 2013-11-09 16:28:10 @J I also have floating point errors in positions - I move everything up to the point where they collide, but they're not quite toching 2013-11-09 16:28:11 @J *touching 2013-11-09 16:28:21 @J but this is something I can manually adjust, and it's fine 2013-11-09 16:28:24 Espyo well, in real life, nothing really "touches", so... 2013-11-09 16:28:28 @J velocity, on the other hand... 2013-11-09 16:28:38 @J yes, but it's important that they touch here 2013-11-09 16:28:42 Espyo hehe, of course 2013-11-09 17:28:05 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 17:28:05 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-09 17:28:09 @PikFan . 2013-11-09 17:29:14 @J hey 2013-11-09 17:31:36 Espyo hi 2013-11-09 17:31:50 @PikFan hi 2013-11-09 17:34:21 @PikFan http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Cloaking_Burrow-nit&curid=285&diff=77006&oldid=74030 2013-11-09 17:34:31 @PikFan ..."Borrow-nit"? 2013-11-09 17:35:53 Espyo that was the text that was there before 2013-11-09 17:35:59 Espyo I didn't even look, I just added some equals signs 2013-11-09 17:36:27 @PikFan yeah, I know 2013-11-09 17:36:32 @J new Breadbug? 2013-11-09 17:36:57 @PikFan no, typo of Burrow-nit 2013-11-09 17:37:14 @PikFan that Espyo didn't somehow noticer 2013-11-09 17:37:17 @PikFan *notice 2013-11-09 17:37:40 @PikFan I guess I'll fix it, then 2013-11-09 17:38:05 @J it was a joke 2013-11-09 17:38:09 @J because borrow 2013-11-09 17:38:54 @PikFan I see 2013-11-09 18:23:12 <-- Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-09 19:12:48 --> MegaMan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 19:17:41 @PikFan okay who are you 2013-11-09 19:18:10 MegaMan MegaMan, why 2013-11-09 19:19:11 @PikFan I see 2013-11-09 19:19:32 @PikFan just curious is all 2013-11-09 19:19:35 MegaMan it says it all in my name 2013-11-09 19:19:57 MegaMan hey, go to Fantendo chat 2013-11-09 19:20:07 @PikFan I did 2013-11-09 19:20:11 @PikFan and then I left 2013-11-09 19:20:34 MegaMan oh im also there right now. 2013-11-09 19:22:39 MegaMan are you a boy or girl 2013-11-09 19:23:01 @PikFan boy, why 2013-11-09 19:23:07 MegaMan me too 2013-11-09 19:23:14 @PikFan mmkay 2013-11-09 19:23:32 MegaMan just asking 2013-11-09 19:23:40 @PikFan I see 2013-11-09 19:24:46 MegaMan you sometimes cant trust people on the internet so i gotta know who im chatting with, its no big deal 2013-11-09 19:25:54 @PikFan okay 2013-11-09 19:26:20 MegaMan sorry, its just... complicated 2013-11-09 19:26:49 @PikFan also this 2013-11-09 19:26:50 @PikFan http://orteil.dashnet.org/cookieclicker/ 2013-11-09 19:26:56 @PikFan this is an amazing game 2013-11-09 19:27:06 @PikFan isn't it, Espyp 2013-11-09 19:27:09 @PikFan *Espyo 2013-11-09 19:27:17 Espyo yep 2013-11-09 19:27:17 @PikFan ...the typo has returned 2013-11-09 19:28:02 MegaMan the games addicting 2013-11-09 19:32:55 MegaMan who would create a game like that 2013-11-09 19:35:45 MegaMan is anyone there?! 2013-11-09 19:39:41 MegaMan oh well 2013-11-09 19:54:01 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 19:59:18 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-09 20:00:10 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 20:02:36 --> Lan|Hyroki (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-09 20:06:45 <-- Lan|Hyroki (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-09 20:30:03 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: going outside) 2013-11-09 20:30:05 --> Gamefreak75 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--> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 00:34:13 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-10 02:33:05 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-10 02:50:15 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-10 02:50:18 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-10 08:31:16 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: !) 2013-11-10 12:18:08 --> Testyo (Testyo@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 12:18:08 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-10 12:21:16 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 14:09:41 @J http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2013/11/09/the-internet 2013-11-10 14:24:21 Espyo oh wow 2013-11-10 14:24:34 Espyo the internet never fails to deliver 2013-11-10 14:50:38 @J okay, I hacked around the floating-point error in the simple case, but it seems to be happening in complicated cases too 2013-11-10 14:51:42 Espyo well, it's to be expected 2013-11-10 14:51:56 @J and even when elasticity is 1 2013-11-10 14:52:05 @J that's kind of weird, really 2013-11-10 14:53:38 @J actually, it still seems to be happening in the simple case - maybe I didn't fix it properly 2013-11-10 14:53:45 Espyo ah 2013-11-10 14:58:24 @J ...okay, ignore everything I just said 2013-11-10 14:58:51 @J what's happening is each collision, the velocities of the two things colliding get switched round, somehow 2013-11-10 15:00:43 @J ...on one axis 2013-11-10 15:03:23 @J ooh, that's pretty crazy 2013-11-10 15:03:44 @J 2 objects collide, then one hits a wall 2013-11-10 15:04:18 @J because the objects are grouped, the resolution of that collision ends up with one still moving towards the wall, because the other's moving away from the wall so fast 2013-11-10 15:09:58 Espyo ...how 2013-11-10 15:10:43 @J I know 2013-11-10 15:16:51 @J I can't quite work out how the exact same thing is happening with elasticity = 0, but at least it's that and not _another_ thing 2013-11-10 15:17:57 Espyo tried elasticity = infinite yet? 2013-11-10 15:17:59 Espyo should be fun 2013-11-10 15:19:07 @J how do I do that? 2013-11-10 15:19:18 @J if I actually use inf, everything will just break 2013-11-10 15:19:36 @J any elasticity > 1 increases energy over time, if that's what you were going for 2013-11-10 15:23:11 Espyo does Python have a concept of an actual infinite value? 2013-11-10 15:23:15 @J yeah 2013-11-10 15:23:19 Espyo nice 2013-11-10 15:23:27 Espyo "increases energy over time"...? 2013-11-10 15:23:29 @J not sure if you can create it 2013-11-10 15:23:37 Espyo not sure if that's what elasticity is 2013-11-10 15:23:40 @J but you can test for it with isinf() 2013-11-10 15:23:54 @J and there's no infinite for ints 2013-11-10 15:24:22 @J that is what elasticity is 2013-11-10 15:24:58 @J elasticity is the ratio of separation speed after collision to approach speed before collision 2013-11-10 15:25:03 @J 1 means no change in relative speed 2013-11-10 15:25:13 @J 0 means they end up at the same speed 2013-11-10 15:25:23 @J 2 means they bounce off with more energy than they started with 2013-11-10 15:25:30 Espyo ah right 2013-11-10 15:25:37 Espyo I was thinking of something more persistent 2013-11-10 15:25:43 Espyo like the more you hit, the bouncier it gets 2013-11-10 15:25:44 @J ? 2013-11-10 15:25:46 Espyo never mind 2013-11-10 15:25:48 @J mm 2013-11-10 15:26:15 @J well, if you let a ball fall onto a surface, the height it bounce back up to will be the same with e=1 2013-11-10 15:26:25 @J with e>1, it gets higher and higher with tim 2013-11-10 15:26:26 @J e 2013-11-10 15:26:45 Espyo of course 2013-11-10 15:26:56 Espyo but that's not really the concept I was (wrongly) thinking 2013-11-10 15:27:41 @J okay, stuff seems to work much better now 2013-11-10 15:27:58 @J I'm getting absolutely no infinite loops, and very few collisions at all with high elasticity 2013-11-10 15:28:04 Espyo great 2013-11-10 15:28:12 @J with e=0, I get some pretty large numbers of collisions 2013-11-10 15:28:29 @J but it's probably many few orders of magnitude better than before I introduced grouping 2013-11-10 15:28:37 Espyo yeah 2013-11-10 15:28:38 @J and I have an idea for a further fix 2013-11-10 15:29:01 @J then I need to go back and work out why the detection phase runs so much slower now 2013-11-10 15:29:08 @J and it should be good 2013-11-10 15:31:40 Espyo so, the code for that is currently filled with patches and hacks, yeah? 2013-11-10 15:35:45 @J detection, not so much 2013-11-10 15:35:54 @J http://i.imgur.com/95eBhzI.png 2013-11-10 15:36:01 @J that's the sort of situation it still struggles with 2013-11-10 15:36:05 @J with e=0 2013-11-10 15:36:06 @J u 2013-11-10 15:36:12 @J oops 2013-11-10 15:38:45 Espyo that image doesn't tell me a great deal 2013-11-10 15:41:19 @J okay, bad things still happen 2013-11-10 15:41:34 @J friction is messed up again 2013-11-10 15:41:40 @J things just move on their own 2013-11-10 15:42:02 @J I still have work to do 2013-11-10 15:42:09 Espyo eesh 2013-11-10 15:43:13 @J ah, I think friction is in the wrong direction in collisions with static objects 2013-11-10 15:43:23 @J so things speed up instead of slowing down 2013-11-10 15:44:01 @J ...and it's direction-dependent 2013-11-10 15:44:15 @J the ceiling and left wall work, the floor and right wall don't 2013-11-10 15:46:47 @J ugh, forgot to abs() something 2013-11-10 15:52:02 @J oh, the image was just meant to show how many collisions are going on 2013-11-10 15:52:06 @J big clusters of objects 2013-11-10 16:02:28 Espyo ah 2013-11-10 18:41:58 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 18:52:12 Espyo you know your speedrun has an impact when an update is made JUST for that speedrun 2013-11-10 18:52:15 Espyo http://speeddemosarchive.com/ 2013-11-10 19:00:14 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 19:00:15 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-10 19:00:22 @PikFan . 2013-11-10 19:01:22 Espyo hey 2013-11-10 19:01:48 @PikFan 'ello 2013-11-10 19:02:02 @PikFan okay so 2013-11-10 19:02:25 @PikFan in Cookie Clicker, there's a bunch of CpS upgrades in the shop that are mocking me 2013-11-10 19:02:43 @PikFan because they're so ridiculously expensive 2013-11-10 19:02:51 Espyo heh 2013-11-10 19:02:59 Espyo the game gets really expensive after a while 2013-11-10 19:20:53 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-10 19:21:08 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 19:21:08 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-10 19:21:08 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-10 19:21:08 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ @PikFan DOS Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo] 2013-11-10 19:21:08 -- Channel #pikipedia: 8 nicks (2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 6 normals) 2013-11-10 19:21:08 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-10 19:21:08 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-10 19:21:09 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-10 19:21:09 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-10 19:21:21 @PikFan welcome back 2013-11-10 19:24:40 @J . 2013-11-10 19:24:44 @PikFan . 2013-11-10 19:24:51 @PikFan okay 2013-11-10 19:25:07 @J how are you? 2013-11-10 19:25:14 @PikFan bought Elder Pledge — I'm going to hunt for Golden Cookies 2013-11-10 19:25:17 @PikFan oh, fine 2013-11-10 19:25:18 @PikFan thanks 2013-11-10 20:06:20 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-10 20:09:13 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 20:56:25 Espyo ok, I wrote code to make leaders auto-pluck Pikmin 2013-11-10 20:56:33 Espyo and I bet a lot of things are going to go horribly wrong 2013-11-10 20:57:23 @PikFan trial and error 2013-11-10 20:59:35 Espyo yep 2013-11-10 21:01:42 @J I can imagine going in a random order, trying to pluck non-buried Pikmin, standing in completely the wrong place but managing to pluck them anyway... 2013-11-10 21:03:36 Espyo I doubt the random order bit and non-burrowed 2013-11-10 21:03:40 Espyo but the rest I can totally believe it 2013-11-10 21:03:44 Espyo hmm... buried or burrowed? 2013-11-10 21:04:32 Espyo ...well 2013-11-10 21:04:37 Espyo I became stuck, and after a bit, it crashed 2013-11-10 21:07:40 Espyo it... 2013-11-10 21:07:42 Espyo looks like it's working 2013-11-10 21:08:09 Espyo and because of your suggestion some days ago of using vectors instead of angles, a mob isn't considered to be in its destination right away, only after around half a second 2013-11-10 21:08:16 Espyo so there's a beautiful delay between each pluck 2013-11-10 21:08:33 Espyo well, what's /really/ going to break everything is 2 leaders, I can already tell 2013-11-10 21:12:59 @J I don't remember suggesting that 2013-11-10 21:13:35 Espyo you did 2013-11-10 21:13:45 Espyo a mob wants to go towards a certain point 2013-11-10 21:14:00 @J maybe 2013-11-10 21:14:00 Espyo I was checking the angle and making it move in that direction, as per its speed 2013-11-10 21:14:08 Espyo but I had troubles with when it reached its spot 2013-11-10 21:14:25 @J don't really see why it'd cause this delay 2013-11-10 21:14:50 Espyo I really can't see why either, it's bizarre 2013-11-10 21:31:19 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: bye) 2013-11-10 21:41:23 Espyo it... 2013-11-10 21:41:27 Espyo is so beautiful 2013-11-10 21:41:29 Espyo it works like a charm! 2013-11-10 21:41:33 Espyo I mean, everything 2013-11-10 21:41:37 Espyo two leaders at once, one alone... 2013-11-10 21:41:42 Espyo gotta try three... after dinner 2013-11-10 22:00:18 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 22:15:11 --> MegaMan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 22:19:29 Espyo three leaders plucking Pikmin at once is truly a sight to behold 2013-11-10 22:20:25 MegaMan what are you talking about 2013-11-10 22:20:46 Espyo my fangame engine 2013-11-10 22:20:57 MegaMan oh okay 2013-11-10 22:21:03 Espyo I finally implemented automiatic Pikmin plucking 2013-11-10 22:21:06 Espyo *automatic 2013-11-10 22:24:45 MegaMan do you know Testyo? 2013-11-10 22:25:33 Espyo I made him 2013-11-10 22:26:10 MegaMan do people know that 2013-11-10 22:26:31 Espyo yeah 2013-11-10 22:26:40 Espyo if you ask Testyo who he is, he'll tell you 2013-11-10 22:26:44 Espyo he'll tell you I made him 2013-11-10 22:26:54 MegaMan haha! 2013-11-10 22:27:51 MegaMan Do you have a profile on super mario wiki 2013-11-10 22:27:55 Espyo nope 2013-11-10 22:27:57 Espyo don't think I do 2013-11-10 22:28:49 MegaMan do you own SSBB 2013-11-10 22:30:59 Espyo yes 2013-11-10 22:31:21 MegaMan do you know your friend code 2013-11-10 22:31:45 Espyo yes, but I only play once a week, and they're arranged matches with friends 2013-11-10 22:31:59 Espyo so I never really play with people at random on my friend's list 2013-11-10 22:32:14 MegaMan i can be your friend 2013-11-10 22:32:50 MegaMan if its okay with you 2013-11-10 22:33:23 Espyo sure, but I just explained why it makes no difference 2013-11-10 22:34:34 MegaMan its okay, so whats your favorite character 2013-11-10 22:34:48 Espyo Ness 2013-11-10 22:36:37 MegaMan mines Olimar 2013-11-10 22:37:03 MegaMan but do you know how some people don fight on there 2013-11-10 22:37:13 Espyo yeah, taunt parties 2013-11-10 22:37:27 MegaMan thats my favorite 2013-11-10 22:38:10 MegaMan im sometimes peach and zeda though 2013-11-10 22:38:28 MegaMan zelda, exuse me 2013-11-10 22:38:35 Espyo I mostly pick all characters 2013-11-10 22:38:40 Espyo but I'm just better with Ness overall 2013-11-10 22:39:00 <-- MegaMan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-10 22:42:38 --> MegaMan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-10 22:42:59 MegaMan hello again 2013-11-10 22:49:25 Espyo uh... looks like one of the Pikmin 2 attraction demos shows a Fiery Bulblax in the Perplexing Pool 2013-11-10 22:50:20 MegaMan I think i should change the backround of the main page 2013-11-10 22:51:19 Espyo ...scratch that, Fiery Bulblaxes are normal there 2013-11-10 22:51:20 Espyo well, one is 2013-11-10 22:52:14 MegaMan should i 2013-11-10 22:55:45 Espyo you don't have permission 2013-11-10 22:56:18 MegaMan where do i get permission 2013-11-10 23:03:02 MegaMan where do i get permission at Espyo? 2013-11-10 23:03:20 DOS at wat lol 2013-11-10 23:04:05 MegaMan you know 2013-11-10 23:04:15 Espyo ...you have to be an administrator 2013-11-10 23:05:03 MegaMan where can i at least find an adstriminator 2013-11-10 23:05:17 @J *just about to leave* 2013-11-10 23:09:21 @J Miles: hey, you didn't mention you finished a Metroid Prime run recently 2013-11-10 23:09:29 @J (or if you did, I ignored you) 2013-11-10 23:09:30 Miles Because I didn't 2013-11-10 23:09:50 Miles Best Single-segment time: 0:56 by Charles Griffin on 2013-06-02 2013-11-10 23:10:16 <-- MegaMan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-10 23:11:10 @J that was probably recent enough 2013-11-10 23:11:13 @J so wait, have I seen this? 2013-11-10 23:11:37 Miles Probably? 2013-11-10 23:11:56 @J I see 2013-11-10 23:12:08 @J well, goodnight 2013-11-10 23:12:10 Miles It was 5 months ago 2013-11-10 23:12:20 @J did you ever link to a video of it? 2013-11-10 23:13:25 Miles Apparently not 2013-11-10 23:18:16 @J sad 2013-11-10 23:18:18 @J *gone* 2013-11-10 23:19:55 Espyo night 2013-11-11 02:04:58 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-11-11 02:05:15 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-11-11 03:03:02 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-11 04:30:56 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-11-11 04:31:28 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-11 07:33:33 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: h) 2013-11-11 11:18:43 --> Testyo (Testyo@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-11 11:18:43 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-11 11:25:16 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-11 16:29:48 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-11 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(Mibbit@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-11-12 01:23:33 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y17-487-00-406.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-11-12 04:12:43 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-12 08:43:15 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: f) 2013-11-12 10:57:11 --> Miles_ (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 10:57:19 <-- Miles (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-11-12 11:04:23 --> Miles (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 11:05:39 <-- Miles_ (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-11-12 11:17:17 --> Testyo (Testyo@e67-936-74-20.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 11:17:17 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-12 11:20:14 --> Espyo (Mibbit@e67-936-74-20.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 18:12:45 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@e67-936-74-20.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-12 18:13:00 --> Espyo (Mibbit@e67-936-74-20.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 20:21:48 @J I'm getting to the point where I'm considering giving up on this physics engine 2013-11-12 20:22:07 @J or, at least, giving up on doing it without learning how to do it 2013-11-12 20:24:34 Espyo right 2013-11-12 20:24:42 Espyo people use external engines all the time for a reason 2013-11-12 20:31:49 @J I still want something simple to integrate with my game engine 2013-11-12 20:32:08 @J simple as in, it doesn't need rotation 2013-11-12 20:40:08 Espyo doesn't need rotation... 2013-11-12 20:40:20 Espyo working on a rotated axis, you mean? 2013-11-12 20:49:29 @J I guess 2013-11-12 20:50:05 @J doesn't need rotation from a specific set of axes 2013-11-12 21:02:09 @J the main issue is, with the grouping, even though the groups' centres of mass are separating at the end of collision resolution, 2013-11-12 21:02:23 @J it doesn't mean the objects that actually collided are separating 2013-11-12 21:02:34 Espyo yeah 2013-11-12 21:03:04 @J it's possible to detect such cases, but then I lose all the advantages of grouping 2013-11-12 21:03:40 @J I'll still look into the exact situations that are occurring for a little while 2013-11-12 21:03:48 @J but I'm not sure I'll be able to come to a good solution 2013-11-12 21:05:16 Espyo you might end up having to see how it's done 2013-11-12 21:05:20 Espyo have you ever seen grouping done anywhere else? 2013-11-12 21:05:27 Espyo or was it your idea? 2013-11-12 21:08:36 --> NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 21:09:57 NintendoFan hello. 2013-11-12 21:10:59 @J Espyo: no, I haven't 2013-11-12 21:11:15 @J the way I'm doing everything it is completely different to the 'normal' way, anyway 2013-11-12 21:11:18 @J NintendoFan: hi 2013-11-12 21:11:20 NintendoFan is Espyo chatting 2013-11-12 21:11:24 Espyo there's a more optimized way? 2013-11-12 21:11:27 Espyo NintendoFan: hey 2013-11-12 21:11:36 @J normally engines let stuff move, then resolve collisions 2013-11-12 21:11:40 NintendoFan Im MegaMan 2013-11-12 21:11:41 @J I resolve collisions as they happen 2013-11-12 21:11:47 Espyo right 2013-11-12 21:12:03 NintendoFan by the way i just lik this name better 2013-11-12 21:12:21 @J I have tried the normal approach too, but still not looking anything up 2013-11-12 21:12:26 @J didn't go particularly well 2013-11-12 21:12:51 NintendoFan how do people know i edited 2013-11-12 21:13:06 NintendoFan and if i made a good edit 2013-11-12 21:13:11 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/Special:RecentChanges 2013-11-12 21:14:00 NintendoFan but how can you tell i made a good edit 2013-11-12 21:14:45 NintendoFan uh hello 2013-11-12 21:15:04 @J by looking at it 2013-11-12 21:15:34 NintendoFan see im looking to become an adstriminator 2013-11-12 21:16:00 <-- NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-12 21:16:08 Espyo I sense a recurring theme 2013-11-12 21:16:21 @J mhm 2013-11-12 21:16:51 @J need to clean this huge pile of dishes, back in a bit 2013-11-12 21:17:08 Espyo ok 2013-11-12 21:21:27 --> NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 21:21:40 NintendoFan sorry guys 2013-11-12 21:22:25 <-- NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-12 21:33:35 @J I don't get that guy 2013-11-12 21:34:13 @J on a related note, ice cream time 2013-11-12 21:34:16 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 21:34:21 @J (hint: it's not related to anything) 2013-11-12 21:48:56 Espyo hehe 2013-11-12 22:47:24 @J tip: don't press random keys when playing a video in VLC 2013-11-12 22:54:57 Espyo that's a good tip, yeah 2013-11-12 23:40:14 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-12 23:40:14 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-12 23:40:23 @PikFan . 2013-11-12 23:40:33 Espyo hey 2013-11-12 23:41:09 @PikFan so I have 2,736,003,703,972,409 cookies in Cookie Clicker 2013-11-12 23:41:14 @PikFan in the bank 2013-11-12 23:41:32 @PikFan left the game running while I was at school 2013-11-12 23:41:48 Espyo I just leave it running all day while the computer ison 2013-11-12 23:41:50 Espyo *is on 2013-11-12 23:41:58 @PikFan ...but this is my mom's laptop 2013-11-12 23:42:52 Espyo right, I know 2013-11-12 23:42:53 Espyo just saying 2013-11-12 23:43:00 @PikFan so popped all the wrinklers and they gave ~100,000,000,000,000 cookies each 2013-11-12 23:43:17 Espyo pretty good 2013-11-12 23:43:19 @PikFan hm 2013-11-12 23:43:36 @PikFan should I buy the CpS upgrades or more antimatter condensers? 2013-11-12 23:43:59 @PikFan got 69 antimatter condensers 2013-11-12 23:44:40 Espyo the upgrades 2013-11-12 23:44:44 Espyo the antimatter condensers have time 2013-11-12 23:44:52 @PikFan okay 2013-11-12 23:45:11 @PikFan hm 2013-11-12 23:45:26 @PikFan CpS only increased by ~2,000,000,000 2013-11-12 23:46:11 Espyo hmm 2013-11-12 23:46:20 Espyo well, try to see how much it increases with an AC next 2013-11-12 23:46:24 Espyo I think upgrades are a bit better 2013-11-12 23:46:43 @PikFan increased by ~400,000,000 2013-11-12 23:47:06 @PikFan okay, now I have 77 ACs 2013-11-12 23:47:12 @PikFan heh, 77 2013-11-12 23:47:45 @PikFan now I'm half-tempted to reset my game and get all the heavenly chips 2013-11-12 23:50:53 Espyo well, there's your answer then 2013-11-12 23:50:56 Espyo upgrades are better 2013-11-12 23:51:14 Espyo when I first reset, with a lot of them, I got 2013-11-12 23:51:18 Espyo ...3 heavenly chips 2013-11-12 23:51:18 Espyo or so 2013-11-12 23:51:23 @PikFan heh 2013-11-12 23:51:35 Espyo I think I chose a horrible time to reset, a time in which the creator decided to severely nerf them 2013-11-12 23:51:42 Espyo I had no idea how they worked, hadn't checked wikia yet 2013-11-12 23:52:01 Espyo but a friend of mine, who hasn't been playing for more than a week than me, told me at the time that he had a lot of heavenly chips 2013-11-12 23:52:01 @PikFan 1st reset I got 0 HCs because I didn't know that the first one needed 1,000,000,000,000 cookies 2013-11-12 23:52:01 Testyo 1 st = 6.3503 kg / 14 lb / 224 oz 2013-11-12 23:52:09 Espyo so I assumed that with the amount I had, I'd get at least 100... 2013-11-12 23:52:16 Espyo hmm 2013-11-12 23:52:30 @PikFan because I reset with only like 200,000,000,000 cookies 2013-11-12 23:52:41 @PikFan 2nd reset, I got 37 HCs 2013-11-12 23:53:01 @PikFan and with this reset that number is going to triple 2013-11-12 23:55:17 @PikFan hmmmm 2013-11-12 23:55:36 @PikFan I think I'll wait to reset so I can get the How? achievement 2013-11-12 23:55:45 Espyo what's that one? 2013-11-12 23:56:05 @PikFan where you have 10,000,000,000,000,000 cookies in the bank 2013-11-12 23:56:14 Espyo ah 2013-11-12 23:56:20 @PikFan wait, no 2013-11-12 23:56:42 @PikFan I meant... that number of cookies baked in this game 2013-11-12 23:56:54 @PikFan my mind is arguing with itself 2013-11-12 23:57:13 Espyo right 2013-11-12 23:58:00 @PikFan but there's no way I could get the Let's never bake again achievement in this game 2013-11-12 23:58:23 @PikFan I only have 31,000,000,000 CpS 2013-11-12 23:58:24 Espyo heh yeah 2013-11-12 23:58:34 @PikFan gonna need a lot of HCs 2013-11-12 23:59:25 @PikFan but I think I'll be able to get the Ruler of the ancients achievements 2013-11-12 23:59:30 @PikFan I have 190 grandmas 2013-11-12 23:59:34 @PikFan soooo close to 200 2013-11-13 00:01:00 Espyo focus on them 2013-11-13 00:01:08 Espyo because having them opens an achievement, so more CpS 2013-11-13 00:01:20 @PikFan yeah 2013-11-13 00:01:22 Espyo in addition to the CpS gained by buying the grandmas 2013-11-13 00:01:27 @PikFan already have all the kitten upgrades 2013-11-13 00:02:27 @PikFan uh 2013-11-13 00:02:44 @PikFan you wouldn't happen to know the price of the 200th grandma, would you? 2013-11-13 00:02:50 Espyo no 2013-11-13 00:02:54 @PikFan :| 2013-11-13 00:02:59 Espyo though I have 208 2013-11-13 00:03:02 Espyo and the next one costs... 2013-11-13 00:03:21 Espyo 412,842,948,195,357 2013-11-13 00:03:31 @PikFan whoa 2013-11-13 00:03:43 @PikFan that's impressive 2013-11-13 00:04:09 @PikFan anyway 2013-11-13 00:25:27 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-13 00:38:27 Espyo well, this makes no sense 2013-11-13 00:38:44 Espyo apparently if I throw two Pikmin in very fast succession, eventually some Pikmin somewhere gets thrown twice 2013-11-13 00:39:07 Espyo which is sugar-coating what really happens: it makes the engine crash 2013-11-13 01:08:11 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 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has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-13 11:15:46 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-13 11:20:19 --> Espyo (Mibbit@d67-432-92-79.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-13 12:27:39 <-- Testyo (Testyo@d67-432-92-79.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-11-13 12:31:20 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@d67-432-92-79.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-13 19:25:39 --> NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-13 19:25:51 NintendoFan hey 2013-11-13 19:26:20 <-- NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-13 19:40:08 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-13 20:09:09 @J . 2013-11-13 20:09:17 @J wait, no-oe who would respond is here 2013-11-13 21:05:14 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-13 21:05:27 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-13 21:05:27 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-13 21:05:27 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-13 21:05:27 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ DOS Gamefreak75 J Miles] 2013-11-13 21:05:27 -- Channel #pikipedia: 5 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 4 normals) 2013-11-13 21:05:27 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-13 21:05:27 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-13 21:05:28 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-13 21:05:28 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-13 21:28:19 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-11-13 21:55:48 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-13 21:56:01 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-13 21:56:01 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-13 21:56:01 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-13 21:56:01 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ DOS J Miles] 2013-11-13 21:56:02 -- Channel #pikipedia: 4 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normals) 2013-11-13 21:56:02 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-13 21:56:02 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-13 21:56:03 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-13 21:56:03 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-13 23:08:09 @J *no-one 2013-11-14 00:02:22 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 00:18:33 --> olololoolo (Mibbit@80-49-09-12.cpe.cableone.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 00:18:50 <-- olololoolo (Mibbit@80-49-09-12.cpe.cableone.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-14 07:58:22 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-11-14 14:10:24 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y67-437-52-67.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 14:22:31 --> Testyo (Testyo@y67-437-52-67.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 14:22:31 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-14 18:42:04 @J . 2013-11-14 18:42:29 Espyo hey 2013-11-14 18:42:40 Espyo so my laptop's screen doesn't display anything this time 2013-11-14 18:42:53 Espyo so far, I could just bend the lid a bit and it'd work 2013-11-14 18:42:58 Espyo but this time /nothing/ works 2013-11-14 18:47:17 @J what are you using now/ 2013-11-14 18:47:18 @J *? 2013-11-14 18:47:54 Espyo an external monitor 2013-11-14 18:47:58 Espyo my huge living room TV 2013-11-14 18:48:19 Espyo I'll send it for repair, because I cannot for the life of me open it 2013-11-14 18:48:27 @J 'open'? 2013-11-14 18:48:29 Espyo I mean, I don't even know what the problem is, but 2013-11-14 18:48:31 Espyo the laptop 2013-11-14 18:48:40 @J oh, you mean unscrew stuff 2013-11-14 18:48:44 Espyo I was hoping I'd open it and figure out what's up, possibly the other end of the tap being loose 2013-11-14 18:48:46 Espyo yeah 2013-11-14 18:48:52 Espyo I get to a point where I just can't go on 2013-11-14 18:48:52 @J hmm 2013-11-14 18:49:03 Espyo nothing left to unscrew, the next step everyone says is to remove the keyboard 2013-11-14 18:49:09 Espyo but I am very sure that's completely impossible 2013-11-14 18:49:11 @J try looking up manufacturer's docs for your model 2013-11-14 18:49:17 @J they might give detail 2013-11-14 18:49:17 @J s 2013-11-14 18:49:21 Espyo even though the guy on the video does exactly that with exactly my model 2013-11-14 18:49:26 @J hmm 2013-11-14 18:49:41 Espyo if I went further, I'd remove the keyboard 2013-11-14 18:49:42 @J well, sending it for repair will probably cost a lot, won't it? 2013-11-14 18:49:43 Espyo but it'd be by force 2013-11-14 18:49:44 Espyo so... 2013-11-14 18:49:55 Espyo we're sending it to someone who's kind of a friend 2013-11-14 18:49:59 @J mm, I see 2013-11-14 18:50:00 Espyo more like an acquaintance 2013-11-14 18:50:06 Espyo won't cost as much 2013-11-14 18:50:12 @J you might just find out it's broken anyway 2013-11-14 18:50:16 Espyo yeah 2013-11-14 18:50:22 Espyo but we have to do something 2013-11-14 18:50:31 Espyo during the next few days, I'll be using my sister's craptop 2013-11-14 18:50:35 Espyo I'll still come on IRC and such 2013-11-14 18:50:41 Espyo but all my projects and tools are on my laptop 2013-11-14 18:50:46 Espyo which means I'll be doing something else 2013-11-14 18:50:56 @J semi-related: I heard there's a screen on kickstarter 2013-11-14 18:50:57 Espyo which means I'm going to completely destroy you on our Pikipedia ToDo competition 2013-11-14 18:51:14 @J something like 16:9 720px high, 9 inches across the diagonal 2013-11-14 18:51:14 Testyo 9 inches = 22.86 cm 2013-11-14 18:51:23 Espyo I saw /something/ on Kickstarter today 2013-11-14 18:51:29 Espyo didn't pay attention to what it was 2013-11-14 18:51:44 Espyo hmm 2013-11-14 18:51:49 @J not entirely sure myself, just someone at work mentioned 2013-11-14 18:51:50 @J it 2013-11-14 18:51:57 Espyo but I see guys in college with screens like that on their smaller laptops 2013-11-14 18:52:03 Espyo or maybe I'm thinking of something else... 2013-11-14 18:52:11 @J well, this is just a standalone screen 2013-11-14 18:52:12 @J HDMI 2013-11-14 18:52:24 Espyo oh 2013-11-14 18:52:26 @J you could use it with a small ARM computer, for example 2013-11-14 18:52:31 @J it's portable 2013-11-14 18:52:46 @J or just set it up as some sort of display on your desk for monitoring stuff 2013-11-14 18:52:49 @J I don't know 2013-11-14 18:53:12 @J the guy at work was thinking about mounting it on the quadcopter he's built 2013-11-14 18:54:34 Espyo quadcopter? 2013-11-14 18:55:09 @J helicopter with 4 sets of blades 2013-11-14 18:55:35 Espyo ok, but I don't see how that's... 2013-11-14 18:55:45 Espyo he wants to mount a screen on a 2013-11-14 18:55:55 Espyo wait, an actual helicopter? 2013-11-14 18:56:18 @J small thing 2013-11-14 18:56:30 @J 40cm across? 2013-11-14 18:56:30 Testyo 40 cm = 15.752 in / 1.312 ft / 21.0526 Olimar-heights 2013-11-14 18:56:50 Espyo I had no idea people could just /own/ helicopters 2013-11-14 18:57:06 Espyo ... 2013-11-14 18:57:11 Espyo so it's not an actual drivable thing 2013-11-14 18:57:15 Espyo I read that as 40m at first 2013-11-14 18:57:16 Testyo 40 m = 43.744 yd / 131.232 ft / 2105.26 Olimar-heights 2013-11-14 18:57:19 @J not with a person in it, no 2013-11-14 18:57:21 Espyo it was really messing with my mind 2013-11-14 18:57:57 Espyo I suppose the Kickstarter is to find ways to make these screens cheaply accessible 2013-11-14 19:21:07 Espyo http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2011/03/every-character-from-nintendos-pikmin-games-recreated-in-lego/ wow 2013-11-14 19:21:12 Espyo the guy even did the WW bugs 2013-11-14 19:30:38 @J hmm, I've seen some of these but I never knew where they came from 2013-11-14 19:35:40 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxUF1eV8WlE pffthaha 2013-11-14 19:37:50 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GducB8e9mQ0 what?! 2013-11-14 19:39:34 @J how did that even happen 2013-11-14 19:40:34 Espyo it looks like a Yellow might've thrown its bomb-rock 2013-11-14 19:40:46 Espyo packed full of invisible boomness 2013-11-14 19:42:25 @J I meant the first one 2013-11-14 19:42:35 @J but that too, I guess 2013-11-14 19:42:43 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuArmGrgb68 new glitch to add to the article 2013-11-14 19:42:49 Espyo it's not really a glitch, but eh 2013-11-14 20:02:01 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4EffSBL2GU what IS this black magic 2013-11-14 20:06:56 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=farjeBvZphc ok, this explains it 2013-11-14 20:26:35 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 21:12:46 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-14 21:23:36 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 21:48:25 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 21:54:49 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y67-437-52-67.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-14 21:55:44 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y67-437-52-67.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-14 21:58:55 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-14 22:15:04 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y67-437-52-67.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 22:16:58 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y67-437-52-67.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-14 22:18:11 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y67-437-52-67.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 22:42:12 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-14 22:46:16 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-14 23:06:02 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 00:32:18 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y67-437-52-67.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-15 04:39:55 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-15 09:15:51 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: k) 2013-11-15 11:06:18 --> Espyo (Mibbit@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 11:24:15 <-- Miles (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has quit 2013-11-15 12:05:48 <-- J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-11-15 12:05:48 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-15 12:05:59 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 12:05:59 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-15 12:05:59 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-15 12:05:59 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ DOS Espyo J] 2013-11-15 12:05:59 -- Channel #pikipedia: 4 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 3 normals) 2013-11-15 12:05:59 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-15 12:05:59 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-15 12:06:00 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-15 12:06:00 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-15 13:38:43 --> Testyo (Testyo@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 13:38:43 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-15 13:39:57 Espyo Testyo: memo J http://www.pikminwiki.com/File:Snow_Bulborb_icon.png you mean to tell me you had already uploaded the icons?! 2013-11-15 13:39:58 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for J saying: http://www.pikminwiki.com/File:Snow_Bulborb_icon.png you mean to tell me you had already uploaded the icons?!. 2013-11-15 16:56:12 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 16:58:53 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-15 16:59:23 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 17:44:10 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-15 17:56:28 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 19:11:21 --> NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 19:11:26 <-- NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-15 19:26:47 @J no Miles? 2013-11-15 19:26:47 Testyo Oh, J, you have a memo from Espyo, written on 15/11/2013 13:43 (GMT), saying: http://www.pikminwiki.com/File:Snow_Bulborb_icon.png you mean to tell me you had already uploaded the icons?!. 2013-11-15 19:27:06 @J that page is still loading for some reason 2013-11-15 19:27:12 Espyo 11:27 *** Miles quit () Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net 2013-11-15 19:27:12 Espyo 12:09 *** J quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net 2013-11-15 19:27:19 Espyo 12:09 *** J joined #pikipedia J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net 2013-11-15 19:27:19 @J yeah, I saw the quit 2013-11-15 19:27:31 @J well, 'can see' 2013-11-15 19:29:31 @J apparently I did 2013-11-15 19:29:50 Espyo well, you delete those while I go take a shower 2013-11-15 19:30:30 @J ...tried to turn the hob off, but instead turned it up to maximum 2013-11-15 19:30:42 Espyo also somebody changed the link to our wiki into two links to both wikis, on the tvtropes article 2013-11-15 19:30:43 Espyo http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/Pikmin?from=Main.Pikmin 2013-11-15 19:30:48 Espyo not sure what to feel about this 2013-11-15 19:30:51 Espyo hob? 2013-11-15 19:31:10 @J thing on top of the oven 2013-11-15 19:31:14 Espyo sounds like several terms put together 2013-11-15 19:31:34 Espyo there are several 2013-11-15 19:31:38 @J don't you remember sending those to me for me to upload them? 2013-11-15 19:31:43 Espyo but I get it, from context 2013-11-15 19:31:49 Espyo I 2013-11-15 19:31:57 Espyo but you uploaded that before I ripped them 2013-11-15 19:32:07 Espyo and I did share it, but it was just for show, I had plans of uploading them myself 2013-11-15 19:33:22 Espyo well, shower time 2013-11-15 19:33:29 @J you already ripped them years ago 2013-11-15 19:36:49 @J well, turns out that's a lie 2013-11-15 19:36:55 @J I don't even know where I got them 2013-11-15 20:07:22 <-- Testyo (Testyo@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-15 20:09:15 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-15 20:14:30 --> Espyo (Mibbit@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 20:14:51 Espyo random disconnect 2013-11-15 20:14:53 Espyo back anyway 2013-11-15 20:15:52 @J just about to delete them 2013-11-15 20:16:00 @J had to write a delete method for my MW bot 2013-11-15 20:17:30 @J I'm getting random very slow page loads 2013-11-15 20:18:37 --> Testyo (Testyo@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 20:18:37 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-15 20:19:06 Espyo maybe the server's slowing you down because you're sending too many requests 2013-11-15 20:19:07 Espyo *? 2013-11-15 20:19:24 @J no 2013-11-15 20:19:27 @J even with a login 2013-11-15 20:19:34 @J one time it's fast, the next it times out 2013-11-15 20:20:06 Espyo wow 2013-11-15 20:21:46 Espyo ok, searching for Pikmin 2 glitches on Google doesn't give much 2013-11-15 20:21:46 Espyo at all 2013-11-15 20:21:55 Espyo by page 3, the results start to wander off 2013-11-15 20:22:03 Espyo ("wander"?) 2013-11-15 20:22:15 Espyo I'll have better luck on youtube 2013-11-15 20:22:22 Espyo ugh, can't imagine searching Pikmin 1 glitches 2013-11-15 20:22:48 @J 'pikmin glitches -2 -3' 2013-11-15 20:22:55 @J *glitch 2013-11-15 20:23:20 Espyo GRAND COMPILATION OF PIKMIN GLITCHES, PLS WATCH [PART 1/3) 2013-11-15 20:23:25 Espyo it wouldn't pick that 2013-11-15 20:23:33 Espyo though with a title like that, I doubt any of those would be good 2013-11-15 20:23:51 Espyo pikmin glitches -"pikmin 3" looks like it works wonderfully 2013-11-15 20:24:02 @J no, but it depends if you're trying to find every page ever with a glitch on it, or to find some glitches without wasting all your time 2013-11-15 20:24:25 @J I didn't know you could do that, sounds good 2013-11-15 20:24:35 Espyo I'd like to find glitches only a few people know about, so we can add those 'cause we're missing 2013-11-15 20:24:44 Espyo but if only a few people know about, it must be deep 2013-11-15 20:25:06 Espyo I never tried such a query before, but I assumed that it'd work 2013-11-15 20:30:51 @J okay, looks like they'reall deleted 2013-11-15 20:30:55 @J *they're all 2013-11-15 20:31:15 Espyo mhm 2013-11-15 20:41:33 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 20:47:24 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga_6QmokF6I 4:28 2013-11-15 20:47:32 Espyo can you find anything special about that clip? 2013-11-15 20:47:44 Espyo that video is a compilation of glitches and misc. funny things 2013-11-15 20:47:52 Espyo but I don't see anything on that clip 2013-11-15 20:48:38 Espyo oh, I see 2013-11-15 20:48:41 Espyo the LED lights turn off 2013-11-15 20:54:38 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXlmnr_IpBA WHAT?! 2013-11-15 21:06:58 @J 6:20 looks like an actually useful thing 2013-11-15 21:07:19 Espyo yeah 2013-11-15 21:07:22 Espyo I'm pointing these down 2013-11-15 21:13:06 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zpNEphShKE 4:00 2013-11-15 21:13:17 Espyo there's something you didn't try when messing with the frozen captain glitch 2013-11-15 21:13:25 --> DatGuestTho (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 21:14:04 <-- DatGuestTho (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-15 21:15:57 @J my laundry's not in my oven, but apparently I still thought it'd be worth a look 2013-11-15 21:18:09 @J I did try that, but he never appeared on a Dweevil 2013-11-15 21:18:20 @J or do you mean the dying bit? Don't see how that's really related to a glitch 2013-11-15 21:19:26 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zpNEphShKE 8:45 if this doesn't happen in a TAS of Pikmin 2, when it's done 2013-11-15 21:19:41 Espyo then either a) somebody needs to be slapped, or b) they found a way around that's even faster 2013-11-15 21:19:52 Espyo the dying bit, yeah 2013-11-15 21:19:57 Espyo forcing the game to switch captains 2013-11-15 21:21:00 @J yeah, don't see how it's different than just switching yourself 2013-11-15 21:21:27 Espyo you can't switch 2013-11-15 21:21:46 Espyo when a captain is frozen like that, you can't switch to him 2013-11-15 21:21:58 @J oh 2013-11-15 21:22:00 @J oh, yeah 2013-11-15 21:22:05 @J I forgot that 2013-11-15 21:22:19 @J seems to have the same effect as not switching in the first place 2013-11-15 21:22:31 @J I forget if the UI disappears in that case, though? 2013-11-15 21:22:43 Espyo never heard of the HUD disappearing 2013-11-15 21:30:47 <-- Testyo (Testyo@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-15 21:31:04 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-15 21:34:08 --> Espyo (Mibbit@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 21:34:57 --> Testyo (Testyo@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 21:34:57 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-15 21:51:11 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-15 21:51:12 <-- Testyo (Testyo@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-15 22:12:18 --> Espyo (Mibbit@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 22:12:37 --> Testyo (Testyo@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-15 22:12:37 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-15 22:30:34 Espyo of course the same query wouldn't work on youtube 2013-11-15 22:30:43 Espyo of /COURSE/ it wouldn't work 2013-11-16 02:20:53 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-16 02:20:59 <-- Testyo (Testyo@b48-862-60-676.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-16 04:15:37 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-16 05:34:41 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 07:10:29 --> Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 07:13:32 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-16 08:06:39 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: w) 2013-11-16 11:23:55 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 13:29:24 --> Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 13:29:24 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-16 14:34:32 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-16 17:50:13 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-16 19:21:00 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 19:32:59 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 2013-11-16 19:36:01 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 20:02:29 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-16 20:02:40 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 20:02:40 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-16 20:02:40 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-16 20:02:40 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ DOS Espyo J Ringtailed-Fox Testyo] 2013-11-16 20:02:40 -- Channel #pikipedia: 6 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 5 normals) 2013-11-16 20:02:40 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-16 20:02:40 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-16 20:02:41 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-16 20:02:41 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-16 20:37:14 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 20:37:19 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-16 21:15:55 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 21:45:42 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-16 21:45:54 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 21:45:54 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-16 21:45:54 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-16 21:45:54 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ DOS Espyo Gamefreak75 J Ringtailed-Fox Testyo] 2013-11-16 21:45:54 -- Channel #pikipedia: 7 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 6 normals) 2013-11-16 21:45:54 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-16 21:45:55 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-16 21:45:55 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-16 21:45:55 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-16 22:35:26 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 22:35:30 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-16 23:16:18 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 23:16:18 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-16 23:16:54 @PikFan . 2013-11-16 23:19:02 @PikFan Espyo: in Cookie Clicker I've baked 4,056,501,510,736,185 cookies in under 70 hours 2013-11-16 23:20:27 --> Yayer (Mibbit@189.170.sk.kh) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 23:20:38 @PikFan hi Yayer 2013-11-16 23:20:39 Yayer Hi. 2013-11-16 23:21:03 Yayer I told you I wouldn't forget to come chat. 2013-11-16 23:21:13 <-- DOS (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2013-11-16 23:21:26 @PikFan and ironically I forgot that statement 2013-11-16 23:21:53 @PikFan heh 2013-11-16 23:21:54 Yayer Lol 2013-11-16 23:23:02 Yayer Irony. 2013-11-16 23:24:04 Yayer It's so amazing 2013-11-16 23:24:59 <-- Yayer (Mibbit@189.170.sk.kh) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-16 23:28:46 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 23:41:12 Espyo ... 2013-11-16 23:41:14 Espyo TESTYO 2013-11-16 23:41:18 Espyo ugh 2013-11-16 23:41:22 Espyo he has a memo for you 2013-11-16 23:41:23 Espyo Testyo: unpause 2013-11-16 23:41:24 Testyo But I'm not paused... 2013-11-16 23:41:51 Espyo I can't play Cookie Clicker right now 2013-11-16 23:42:05 Espyo have to use another laptop because my laptop's screen isn't working 2013-11-16 23:42:10 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-11-16 23:42:13 @PikFan :S 2013-11-16 23:42:16 --> Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-16 23:42:16 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-16 23:42:17 Testyo Oh, PikFan, you have a memo from Espyo, written on 16/11/2013 19:56 (GMT), saying: http://www.pikminfanon.com/PikminFanon:Coverage_Policy three games now. 2013-11-16 23:42:23 Espyo there you go, Testyo 2013-11-16 23:42:45 @PikFan thanks for bringing that to my attention 2013-11-16 23:53:44 @PikFan ...huh 2013-11-16 23:53:58 @PikFan so one of the admins on Fanon told me that somebody spammed a user's talk page 2013-11-16 23:54:11 @PikFan but I can't find anything 2013-11-16 23:56:07 @PikFan http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Peach_Bulborb&curid=6232&diff=41242&oldid=41241&rcid=30828 and http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Peach_Bulborb&diff=next&oldid=41242 2013-11-16 23:56:21 @PikFan apparently, DonoPik's user talk got spammed 2013-11-16 23:56:33 @PikFan so he told Peach Bulborb, the admin, who told me 2013-11-16 23:58:50 @PikFan I'm wondering if DonoPik is lying just to get attention 2013-11-17 00:01:15 Espyo hm 2013-11-17 00:01:17 Espyo seems weird 2013-11-17 00:01:41 @PikFan if it /did/ happen then I wonder why the wiki didn't record it 2013-11-17 00:05:42 Espyo it had to have recorded it 2013-11-17 00:05:48 Espyo so it either happened ages ago 2013-11-17 00:05:50 Espyo or it never happened 2013-11-17 00:06:02 @PikFan I'm going with the latter 2013-11-17 00:07:00 @PikFan if it never happened, /why/ would DonoPik create a situation like this 2013-11-17 00:10:58 --> W10 (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 00:24:57 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-17 01:40:20 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-11-17 01:43:25 <-- W10 (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-17 03:03:11 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-17 03:03:17 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-17 04:20:21 <-- Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 2013-11-17 04:54:01 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 07:31:51 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 07:52:54 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-11-17 11:15:12 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 13:17:36 --> Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 13:17:36 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-17 13:25:25 Espyo how neat 2013-11-17 13:25:49 Espyo my wikia account is set to Portuguese 2013-11-17 13:25:53 Espyo then I went to an article 2013-11-17 13:25:58 Espyo and the index said "Innehåll [visa]" 2013-11-17 13:26:03 Espyo which is nowhere near Portuguese 2013-11-17 13:26:13 Espyo beautiful job, wikia, no doubt about it 2013-11-17 13:26:14 Espyo 10/10 2013-11-17 13:27:00 --> WikiGuest (Mibbit@qzt-72y5k786.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 13:27:27 <-- WikiGuest (Mibbit@qzt-72y5k786.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-17 13:58:06 @J that looks like some sort of Scandinavian 2013-11-17 14:19:33 Espyo whatever it is, it's so very wrong 2013-11-17 16:38:53 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Title 2013-11-17 16:38:56 Espyo I must be going nuts here 2013-11-17 16:39:05 Espyo can you change the bottom two lines to a smaller font? 2013-11-17 16:39:18 Espyo I tried doing it, but either some horrible glitch is taking place, or I completely forgot how to HTML 2013-11-17 16:39:23 Espyo and I did NOT forget how to HTML 2013-11-17 16:50:26 @J use {{=}} for the = 2013-11-17 16:51:58 Espyo .......... 2013-11-17 16:53:55 Espyo much better now 2013-11-17 16:54:07 Espyo I think using {{box|1=... would also work 2013-11-17 16:54:21 Espyo at least it does when people put videos on ToDo tags on TCRF 2013-11-17 17:05:02 @J hmm, possibly 2013-11-17 17:08:15 Espyo pffft 2013-11-17 17:08:38 Espyo Testyo conveniently told the network notice that 800km equals... 2013-11-17 17:08:38 Testyo 800 km = 497.12 mi 2013-11-17 17:08:40 Espyo that 2013-11-17 17:14:22 @J sillyTestyo 2013-11-17 17:14:24 @J * 2013-11-17 17:56:31 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-17 17:56:42 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 17:56:42 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-17 17:56:42 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-17 17:56:42 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster64 Espyo J RingtailedFox Testyo] 2013-11-17 17:56:42 -- Channel #pikipedia: 6 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 5 normals) 2013-11-17 17:56:42 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-17 17:56:42 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-17 17:56:43 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-17 17:56:43 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-17 18:36:06 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-11-17 19:00:49 Espyo windows media player can't play ogg files 2013-11-17 19:00:52 Espyo how am I not surprised 2013-11-17 19:53:04 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 19:53:06 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-17 19:53:38 @PikFan . 2013-11-17 19:53:38 Espyo hey 2013-11-17 19:54:02 Espyo so I went on a page on Carmageddon wikia today (I really have to move that out of wikia) 2013-11-17 19:54:09 Espyo my wikia is set to Portuguese 2013-11-17 19:54:13 Espyo everything was fine in Portuguese 2013-11-17 19:54:34 Espyo except for the index in the page, which had "Innehåll [visa]" 2013-11-17 19:54:41 Espyo 13:58 J that looks like some sort of Scandinavian 2013-11-17 19:54:52 Espyo I have no idea what it is, could be anything as far as I know 2013-11-17 19:54:55 Espyo but it's nowhere near Portuguese 2013-11-17 19:55:03 Espyo grade A job, bravo wikia 2013-11-17 20:10:42 @J hey PikFan 2013-11-17 20:10:47 @PikFan hi J 2013-11-17 20:11:02 @J so...is it normal to run inside? 2013-11-17 20:11:11 @J I mean, when going between rooms, just running to save time 2013-11-17 20:11:14 @J or something 2013-11-17 20:11:15 Espyo depends 2013-11-17 20:11:22 Espyo ...running inside 2013-11-17 20:11:28 Espyo what are you doing 2013-11-17 20:11:34 Espyo you should obviously be side-jumping 2013-11-17 20:11:35 @PikFan running inside if you're playing with someone 2013-11-17 20:11:37 Espyo specially to save time 2013-11-17 20:11:43 Espyo it's so much faster to side-jump 2013-11-17 20:11:47 @PikFan but 2013-11-17 20:11:54 @PikFan side-jumps are not possible 2013-11-17 20:12:02 @PikFan they only exist in video games 2013-11-17 20:12:05 Espyo they are, except they cause a lot of broken ankles 2013-11-17 20:12:16 @PikFan therefore they are not possible 2013-11-17 20:12:26 @PikFan er... 2013-11-17 20:12:37 Espyo seriously now, though, I don't run inside the house, but I like holding on to the frame of my bed (right to my left) and propel myself when I want to leave my chair 2013-11-17 20:12:40 @PikFan not possible w/o getting broken ankles, that is 2013-11-17 20:13:27 @J I see 2013-11-17 20:13:32 @J well, I wasn't suggesting I do so 2013-11-17 20:13:33 @J or anything 2013-11-17 20:13:49 @PikFan also J, Testyo made a paradox 2013-11-17 20:14:28 @PikFan he said we had to unscramble the word flow 2013-11-17 20:14:33 @PikFan but flow is a word 2013-11-17 20:15:37 @J yeah, we established Testyo's silliness earlier today 2013-11-17 20:15:54 @PikFan hm? 2013-11-17 20:26:22 @J [17:08:15] Espyo pffft 2013-11-17 20:26:22 @J [17:08:38] Espyo Testyo conveniently told the network notice that 800km equals... 2013-11-17 20:26:22 @J [17:08:38] Testyo 800 km = 497.12 mi 2013-11-17 20:26:22 @J [17:08:40] Espyo that 2013-11-17 20:26:22 Testyo 800 km = 497.12 mi 2013-11-17 20:26:23 Testyo 800 km = 497.12 mi 2013-11-17 20:26:26 @J ... 2013-11-17 20:45:18 @PikFan http://www.pikminwiki.com/Rubble 2013-11-17 20:45:32 @PikFan in Pikmin 1, it doesn't specifically list where they're at 2013-11-17 20:46:05 @PikFan oh, and does anyone know if nectar weed/rubble are in Pikmin 3? 2013-11-17 20:48:16 Espyo I'll ask 2013-11-17 20:48:24 Espyo I'm on Skype right now with someone who's playing Pikmin 3 right now 2013-11-17 20:48:35 @PikFan okay 2013-11-17 20:48:49 @PikFan and I noticed that there was a rubble missing from the WW 2013-11-17 20:49:00 Espyo he says no rubble 2013-11-17 20:49:03 Espyo nor nectar weed, actually 2013-11-17 20:49:08 Espyo nectar comes only from eggs and a certain enemy 2013-11-17 20:49:12 Espyo (also I think he forgot 2013-11-17 20:49:20 Espyo *Flint Beetles, but that's neither here nor there) 2013-11-17 20:49:27 @PikFan yeah, the Nectarous Dandelfly 2013-11-17 21:00:10 Espyo PikFan: got a moment to test a glitch? 2013-11-17 21:00:20 @PikFan sure, which game? 2013-11-17 21:00:35 Espyo you have NPC!P2, right? 2013-11-17 21:00:38 @PikFan mhm 2013-11-17 21:01:09 Espyo ok, so wikia claims that the instant extinction glitch doesn't work in NPC! 2013-11-17 21:01:37 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/Glitches_in_Pikmin_2#Instant_Pikmin_extinction 2013-11-17 21:01:42 Espyo I want you to please verify that cliam 2013-11-17 21:01:43 Espyo *claim 2013-11-17 21:01:52 Espyo should be easy to pull off if it works 2013-11-17 21:02:00 Espyo I got it after trying like 10-15 times, one minute 2013-11-17 21:03:04 @PikFan oh, done this before on GCN 2013-11-17 21:03:12 @PikFan but haven't tried it on Wii... 2013-11-17 21:03:23 @PikFan okay, I'll test it 2013-11-17 21:07:24 Espyo also test some other glitches that have an unknown check for NPC!, please 2013-11-17 21:08:47 @PikFan confirmed 2013-11-17 21:08:52 @PikFan it is possible 2013-11-17 21:10:19 Espyo sweet 2013-11-17 21:10:21 Espyo wikia is wrong again 2013-11-17 21:10:25 Espyo as usual 2013-11-17 21:20:44 @PikFan any other glitch you want me to check? 2013-11-17 21:21:11 @PikFan because I think /all/ the NPC! glitches have a ? next to them 2013-11-17 21:22:01 Espyo I think so too... 2013-11-17 21:22:04 Espyo so... all? 2013-11-17 21:22:17 Espyo well, mostly the minor ones, I suppose 2013-11-17 21:22:26 Espyo so you don't have to start new save files to test some of those, like the scales glitch 2013-11-17 21:22:38 @PikFan pretty sure that double sprays is a given 2013-11-17 21:24:57 Espyo dunno 2013-11-17 21:37:50 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-17 23:42:12 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-17 23:42:14 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-18 00:24:46 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-18 00:25:09 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 00:30:35 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 02:08:26 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-18 02:08:29 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-18 07:02:47 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 07:02:55 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-18 08:21:10 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: s) 2013-11-18 11:30:12 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 11:30:12 --> ygg (Mibbit@46.198.vjt.q) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 11:30:17 <-- ygg (Mibbit@46.198.vjt.q) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-18 11:32:38 --> Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 11:32:38 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-18 15:53:12 --> NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 15:53:32 <-- NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-18 18:06:02 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-11-18 18:06:08 --> Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 18:06:08 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-18 19:36:00 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 21:04:47 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 22:48:54 @J just had another disk upset 2013-11-18 22:49:15 @J I should really bother looking further into getting a new computer 2013-11-18 22:50:22 Espyo yep 2013-11-18 22:50:27 Espyo luckily I don't have to worry 2013-11-18 22:50:35 Espyo there's not enough money to even think about a new one 2013-11-18 22:52:42 @J well, as everyone knows, as soon as you get a job you're instantly rich 2013-11-18 22:52:46 @J so I should be fine 2013-11-18 22:52:56 Espyo true, true 2013-11-18 22:53:04 Espyo I can't remember if I said before 2013-11-18 22:53:06 Espyo I must've 2013-11-18 22:53:18 Espyo but lately so many people are having disk problems, that I can't remember who I said what, but... 2013-11-18 22:53:35 Espyo have you been moving the laptop a lot while the disk was being accessed? 2013-11-18 22:53:41 Espyo #1 cause for disk failures, it seems 2013-11-18 22:53:45 Espyo and it's more common than not 2013-11-18 22:54:55 @J no 2013-11-18 22:54:59 @J I never move it 2013-11-18 22:55:35 @J I guess I'm just unlucky with disks - this is already the 2nd one in this laptop 2013-11-18 22:55:46 @J though I guess it's a couple of years old now 2013-11-18 22:56:52 Espyo really weird then 2013-11-18 22:59:13 @J also, I thought of a new game idea today 2013-11-18 22:59:37 @J a simple top-down fighting game based around teleportation 2013-11-18 22:59:42 Espyo I keep mine on a text file 2013-11-18 22:59:52 Espyo I actually sent it to you once, you thought I was joking hah 2013-11-18 22:59:56 Espyo ssssssssss 2013-11-18 22:59:59 Espyo ...this s key 2013-11-18 23:00:03 Espyo just... ignore that, I guess 2013-11-18 23:00:08 @J you sent me what? 2013-11-18 23:00:14 Espyo hmm, top-down fighting game 2013-11-18 23:00:21 Espyo a text file where I keep all my game ideas 2013-11-18 23:00:35 @J you can't move normally, and you hold down a button while moving to charge a teleport 2013-11-18 23:00:43 Espyo started my firsssssst message too abruptly, my bad 2013-11-18 23:00:47 Espyo this S KEY 2013-11-18 23:00:56 @J when you release it, you move quickly, but it's not a real teleport so it's not instant 2013-11-18 23:01:07 Espyo maybe that would distract too much from the fighting aspect 2013-11-18 23:01:09 Espyo but maybe not 2013-11-18 23:01:10 @J and you also have a short-range attack you can aim in any direction 2013-11-18 23:01:15 Espyo this is one of those things that needs a proto and playtesting 2013-11-18 23:01:18 @J yep 2013-11-18 23:01:27 @J there are things I need to think through, like 2013-11-18 23:01:37 Espyo and because it's top-down, you could probably have neat non-linear stages 2013-11-18 23:01:38 @J can you cancel mid-move? 2013-11-18 23:01:51 Espyo right, several things need to be thought about well 2013-11-18 23:01:53 @J what about obstacles - spikes, walls, pits you can move over but not stop on 2013-11-18 23:01:56 Espyo it is a fighter, after all 2013-11-18 23:02:28 @J when you charge a teleport, do you visibly move in the direction you're holding, but very slowly, so that your opponent can tell where you'll move if they pay attention? 2013-11-18 23:02:28 Espyo sounds like a good candidate for a fast-paced fighting game, instead of slow and more controlled 2013-11-18 23:02:39 @J also hopefully very mind-gamey 2013-11-18 23:02:57 Espyo if you can curve while the teleport is happening, that would be incredible 2013-11-18 23:02:57 @J it could definitely be slow because of the charge time 2013-11-18 23:03:04 @J yeah, that's exactly what I meant 2013-11-18 23:03:08 Espyo yay 2013-11-18 23:03:14 @J you draw out a path while charging, then you follow the path very quickl 2013-11-18 23:03:16 @J y 2013-11-18 23:03:18 Espyo there shouldn't be indicators that the teleport is being charged 2013-11-18 23:03:20 @J and you can attack while moving 2013-11-18 23:03:32 Espyo I was thinking drawing the path as you went, but I like that idea 2013-11-18 23:03:36 @J yeah, I thought that at first, but then I began to think it might add something 2013-11-18 23:03:46 Espyo wonder how well it'd work; the opponent could telegraph your path planning before you released 2013-11-18 23:03:49 Espyo again, playtesting 2013-11-18 23:04:02 @J just being able to tell your direction at any point, but not the whole path unless you paid attention and remembered it 2013-11-18 23:04:10 Espyo hmm 2013-11-18 23:04:23 Espyo but I'm imagining a teleport-dash-thing lasting around half a second 2013-11-18 23:04:25 @J and there's the nice learning curve of getting the timing down 2013-11-18 23:04:29 Espyo and only covering about 4 character-widths 2013-11-18 23:04:44 Espyo not much space or time to do crazy paths 2013-11-18 23:04:50 Espyo at least the way I'm envisioning it 2013-11-18 23:04:56 @J I'm not sure if I'd limit distance, or just make it so you go as far as you held down the button for 2013-11-18 23:05:13 Espyo heh, there'd have to be a cap 2013-11-18 23:05:18 @J I don't like the idea of a set distance - you can't really choose where you end up 2013-11-18 23:05:43 @J and if there is a cap, does it force you to move at the end of the time, or only when you let go of the button? 2013-11-18 23:05:52 Espyo hm yeah, but there /has/ to be at least a time cap 2013-11-18 23:06:07 @J if the latter, you could do some extra wiggles once it's done to throw off your component, if there's that mechanic 2013-11-18 23:06:11 Espyo or else you could hold for most of the match, and then stay teleporting the rest of the match, to go all the way until a timeout 2013-11-18 23:06:13 @J *opponent 2013-11-18 23:06:16 @J what was that even 2013-11-18 23:06:29 Espyo >I'm not sure if I'd limit distance, or just make it so you go as far as you held down the button for 2013-11-18 23:06:34 Espyo >held down the button for 2013-11-18 23:06:52 Espyo I was thinking that if you hold "charge teleport" for 2 seconds, when you release, you teleport for 2 seconds... or something 2013-11-18 23:06:53 @J mm, it kind of works - I was thinking in multiple tenses 2013-11-18 23:06:59 Espyo teleport time is fixed, then? 2013-11-18 23:07:03 @J no 2013-11-18 23:07:04 @J wait 2013-11-18 23:07:07 @J I'm confused 2013-11-18 23:07:14 Espyo getting a bit confused as well 2013-11-18 23:07:25 Espyo ok, o we're both not thinking of fixed teleportation timed 2013-11-18 23:07:34 @J my idea was something like, you hold down the button for 2 seconds, then your movement takes .2s 2013-11-18 23:07:40 @J hold for 3s, you take .3s 2013-11-18 23:07:51 Espyo I have to attempt surgery on thi S key, gimme a ssec 2013-11-18 23:08:06 @J if you could hold forever, and you tried it, you'd probably get killed quickly 2013-11-18 23:08:41 @J what did you mean by nonlinear stages? 2013-11-18 23:08:56 Espyo sssssssssxwzwxgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeegwhat is this, glued here? 2013-11-18 23:09:08 Espyo yeah, 3 hold -> .3 teleport sounds good 2013-11-18 23:09:18 --> Miles (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-18 23:09:23 Espyo started thinking that after what I said before 2013-11-18 23:10:49 @J anyway, I'll work on it 2013-11-18 23:10:52 @J at some point 2013-11-18 23:10:52 Espyo dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd 2013-11-18 23:10:55 Espyo good luck 2013-11-18 23:10:59 Espyo now you need time 2013-11-18 23:11:09 @J I still want to make that racing game some day 2013-11-18 23:11:20 @J the one with absorbing and expelling force from crashes 2013-11-18 23:11:25 Espyo sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssddssssssassssssssssssssssssssssssssssss 2013-11-18 23:11:27 Espyo oh yeah, that one 2013-11-18 23:11:37 Espyo ok, I think I fixed the S key 2013-11-18 23:11:43 Espyo why didn't my sister ask me to try this before? 2013-11-18 23:11:46 Espyo gotta ask her now 2013-11-18 23:12:34 Espyo *shrug* 2013-11-18 23:12:53 Espyo I had an idea the other day as well... let me see if I can bring it back 2013-11-18 23:14:19 Espyo pffffft 2013-11-18 23:14:27 Espyo I see it now 2013-11-18 23:14:35 Espyo it's really stupid how the idea came to be 2013-11-18 23:14:55 Espyo one day, I was getting ready for bed 2013-11-18 23:15:10 Espyo I had one leg on the bed, I think, and the sheets were covering it 2013-11-18 23:15:31 Espyo instead of opening the sheets down to put my other leg in, I stretched the other leg to try to get it inside, even though the sheets were too high 2013-11-18 23:15:40 Espyo I could swear I could pull it off, but nope 2013-11-18 23:15:50 Espyo then I thought to myself "eesh, what? am I not agile any more?" 2013-11-18 23:15:59 Espyo then suddenly my brain decided to formulate a game idea 2013-11-18 23:16:16 Espyo a game in which you're a ninja, except one day you wake up and you're not a ninja anymore 2013-11-18 23:16:33 Espyo gotta try to do stuff that's normally easy to ninjas, but awkward to now-normal you 2013-11-18 23:16:54 Espyo ...was I on drugs 2013-11-18 23:17:01 Espyo because I just re-read what I wrote, and that can't be normal 2013-11-18 23:17:16 Espyo either I was very sleep deprived, and the next day I decided to point down the idea, just in case 2013-11-18 23:17:21 Espyo or I'm actually on to something great 2013-11-18 23:18:11 @J what is that 2013-11-18 23:19:01 Espyo what's what 2013-11-18 23:19:11 @J that stuff you just wrote 2013-11-18 23:19:25 @J I agree with the drugs 2013-11-18 23:19:27 Espyo the process that lead up to the idea of a game I once had 2013-11-18 23:19:42 @J well, sounds kind of like Octodad 2013-11-18 23:19:51 @J potentially 2013-11-18 23:19:51 Espyo I mean, I once had the idea to make the game, not owning the game 2013-11-18 23:19:57 Espyo hmm 2013-11-18 23:20:08 Espyo Octodad isn't so much about being stealthy as it is about being a normal dad 2013-11-18 23:20:23 Espyo here you're kinda the other way around, you want to do ninja things, but with normal skills 2013-11-18 23:20:28 Espyo also no tentacle controls, sadly 2013-11-18 23:23:30 @J it's still about trying to do stuff you can't 2013-11-18 23:23:36 Espyo true 2013-11-18 23:31:36 @J I haven't really played many ninja games 2013-11-18 23:31:48 @J there was a 2-player one where you're tied together by an elastic rope 2013-11-18 23:32:01 @J and can cling to walls and stuff, to help each other around 2013-11-18 23:32:12 Espyo sounds neat 2013-11-18 23:32:27 Espyo hmm, I was just thinking wall-jumping, shuriken-throwing, and general stealth 2013-11-18 23:32:30 Espyo maybe fast running 2013-11-18 23:32:45 Espyo oh, and ceiling-clinging, a la Shinobi III 2013-11-18 23:33:51 @J can't see how the normal human aspect would fit in, really 2013-11-18 23:34:03 @J it'd just come across as you being kind of underpowered 2013-11-18 23:34:10 Espyo I guess you'd still be agile 2013-11-18 23:34:16 Espyo being a ninja is like magic 2013-11-18 23:34:29 Espyo ...look, I really have no idea, the idea is stupider the more I think about it 2013-11-18 23:34:33 Espyo but I like it each time more 2013-11-18 23:34:56 Espyo half puzzle, to get around 2013-11-18 23:35:05 Espyo half awkward controls for otherwise easy things 2013-11-18 23:35:32 Espyo like walljumping, instead of pressing jump on the wall, you have to like press against the wall, then smash against the opposite direction real fast and press jump at the same time 2013-11-18 23:35:41 Espyo and then hold up to jump up or something 2013-11-18 23:35:56 Espyo at least to make the game not boring, otherwise, I'd just make you take some nearby stairs 2013-11-18 23:36:08 Espyo but it would quickly become a normal human stealth game 2013-11-18 23:36:13 Espyo no mentions of ninjas whatsoever 2013-11-18 23:40:01 @J hmm 2013-11-18 23:40:14 @J that's an interesting idea: you could make it about subverting expectations 2013-11-18 23:40:26 Espyo mhm, I was thinking a bit of that as well 2013-11-18 23:40:28 @J so there's this wall to climb that seems like the obvious way forwards 2013-11-18 23:40:43 @J but it's actually impossible to do it, and there are some stairs hidden nearby 2013-11-18 23:40:51 @J that could be a thing 2013-11-18 23:40:54 Espyo yeah 2013-11-18 23:41:06 Espyo if only I could somehow showcase clearly how easy that would be to a ninja 2013-11-18 23:41:37 Espyo I can't just rely on people's knowledge of walljumping 2013-11-18 23:41:47 Espyo maybe an opponent ninja? a race of sorts? 2013-11-18 23:42:12 Espyo I want to have an unlockable ninja mode after you finish it, but it wouldn't work to show how easy stuff is for ninjas during the first playthrough 2013-11-18 23:46:09 @J monologue? 2013-11-18 23:46:37 @J or you start off with such powers and then get amnesia or something? (Think Metroid) 2013-11-18 23:46:46 Espyo right 2013-11-18 23:46:56 Espyo but that seems too linear, the powerup losing thing 2013-11-18 23:47:08 Espyo the whole game'd have to be played for laughs 2013-11-18 23:47:13 Espyo no way a game like this could be serious 2013-11-18 23:47:28 @J yeah 2013-11-18 23:47:40 @J in a cutscene, then? 2013-11-18 23:48:16 Espyo maybe some combination of several of those things 2013-11-18 23:51:55 <-- Miles (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has quit 2013-11-18 23:53:23 @J anyway, I should go 2013-11-18 23:53:24 @J goodnight 2013-11-18 23:54:06 Espyo night 2013-11-19 00:08:15 --> Miles (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-19 01:28:34 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-19 01:28:44 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-19 04:13:31 <-- BetaMaster64 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(Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-19 17:12:14 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-19 19:36:03 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-19 19:36:20 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-19 19:36:20 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-19 19:36:20 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-19 19:36:20 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo] 2013-11-19 19:36:20 -- Channel #pikipedia: 6 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 5 normals) 2013-11-19 19:36:20 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-19 19:36:20 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-19 19:36:21 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-19 19:36:21 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-19 19:55:51 @J beep 2013-11-19 20:01:36 Espyo we should talk about game ideas more 2013-11-19 20:01:41 Espyo because apparently that makes me dream of game ideas 2013-11-19 20:02:04 Espyo I was playing an NES game with friends, a 3/4 view game, like Double Dragon, except a fighter 2013-11-19 20:02:12 Espyo but the thing is, one of the characters was a tree 2013-11-19 20:02:28 Espyo I had no idea what was so special about the tree, so I picked it 2013-11-19 20:02:54 Espyo and realized that the trees in the level were like mine, so I concluded that the tree's thing is to blend in with the other trees and attack those who can't recognize you 2013-11-19 20:03:08 Espyo and then the game went real-life, and I could shape-shift in real life 2013-11-19 20:03:12 Espyo to more shapes than just the tree 2013-11-19 20:03:32 Espyo too bad this concept already exists, it's a Half-Life mod, I think 2013-11-19 20:03:37 Espyo but it isn't a fighter, so... 2013-11-19 20:14:33 @J have you heard of Spy Party? 2013-11-19 20:19:49 Espyo nope 2013-11-19 20:20:30 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-19 20:20:49 @J one player moves around at a party, and the other is looking inside through a sniper rifle scope 2013-11-19 20:21:01 @J and has to tell which guest is the other player by how they act 2013-11-19 20:23:17 Espyo wow 2013-11-19 20:30:11 Espyo I'm seeing some gameplay, looks amazing 2013-11-19 20:40:49 @J I just mentioned it because there's a similar idea there 2013-11-19 20:41:23 @J I always find it's good to look at games that are at all similar, so you can see how they solved any problems you come across 2013-11-19 20:41:29 Espyo right 2013-11-19 20:41:45 Espyo hmm, I know it's a beta, and an interesting idea, but $15 for a beta... 2013-11-19 20:41:46 Testyo $ 15 = 11.058 € / £ 9.4575 2013-11-19 20:41:57 Espyo those models and animations look like they took 2 days each 2013-11-19 20:42:04 Espyo the gameplay looks like it took a week to code 2013-11-19 20:42:10 Espyo and in the end, $15 already...? 2013-11-19 20:42:10 Testyo $ 15 = 11.058 € / £ 9.4575 2013-11-19 20:42:25 Espyo either my perception of profit is kinda generous, or the guy's greedy 2013-11-19 20:43:19 Espyo oh, the official site has more updated images 2013-11-19 20:43:26 Espyo well, I guess $15 works 2013-11-19 20:43:26 Testyo $ 15 = 11.058 € / £ 9.4575 2013-11-19 20:43:30 Espyo I mean, it's playable as it is 2013-11-19 20:45:49 @J I don't know, I only really saw it when it was first in development 2013-11-19 20:45:55 @J I think it came out of a jam 2013-11-19 20:47:07 @J but hey, you should know as well as anybody that the parts you don't see take 98% of the work 2013-11-19 20:49:33 Espyo mhm, mhm 2013-11-19 20:53:55 Espyo oh pfft 2013-11-19 20:54:06 Espyo the Ludum Dare website has a TODO on its countdown 2013-11-19 20:54:11 Espyo it's not set for daylight savings 2013-11-19 20:57:59 @J ...does that mean you're actually doing it this time? 2013-11-19 21:04:37 Espyo I tried doing it the past 2 times 2013-11-19 21:04:42 Espyo I've always had something stop me 2013-11-19 21:04:47 Espyo personally, I want to see what's going to stop me this time 2013-11-19 21:06:23 @J pessimism 2013-11-19 21:07:26 Espyo realism 2013-11-19 21:07:27 Espyo I want to 2013-11-19 21:07:30 Espyo I really do 2013-11-19 21:10:06 @J I mean pessimism is the thing that will stop you 2013-11-19 21:10:22 Espyo ah 2013-11-19 21:43:11 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-19 21:44:23 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-19 22:29:02 @J got to go, bye 2013-11-19 22:30:10 Espyo see ya 2013-11-19 23:58:17 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-20 00:23:25 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-20 00:23:36 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-20 00:48:29 <-- 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Gamefreak75_ is now known as Gamefreak75 2013-11-20 08:20:13 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: o) 2013-11-20 11:22:59 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-20 11:33:20 --> Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-20 11:33:20 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-20 12:32:03 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-20 12:32:27 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-20 17:13:15 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-20 20:21:47 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-20 20:22:18 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-20 20:22:18 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-20 20:22:18 -- Topic 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#pikipedia: 6 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 5 normals) 2013-11-20 21:17:11 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-20 21:17:11 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-20 21:17:11 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-20 21:17:11 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-20 21:18:25 --> PikFan (Mibbit@prii-303-41.monroe.lane.edu) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-20 21:18:44 PikFan okay, /why/ did DonoPik randomly make a new wiki 2013-11-20 21:18:52 PikFan this is absured 2013-11-20 21:18:56 PikFan *absurd 2013-11-20 21:21:08 PikFan Espyo? J? 2013-11-20 21:22:01 Espyo hey 2013-11-20 21:22:04 Espyo because he's gone insane 2013-11-20 21:22:11 Espyo Los_Plagas already warned him 2013-11-20 21:22:17 Espyo but if he keeps going, I'm telling wikia 2013-11-20 21:22:28 Espyo because, as it turns out, wikia's TOS aren't fond of duplicates 2013-11-20 21:23:27 PikFan heh, there IS something good about wikia after all 2013-11-20 21:23:51 PikFan also, I'm going to warn him on Fanon, because I've reached the conclusion he made a story up 2013-11-20 21:23:52 Espyo well, duplicates of other wikias, at least 2013-11-20 21:24:03 Espyo I bet they'd be fine with people copying existing out-of-wikia wikis 2013-11-20 21:24:07 -- AFK-DOS is now known as BetaMaster64 2013-11-20 21:24:10 Espyo he made a story up? 2013-11-20 21:24:11 PikFan checked recent changes, history, contribs... everything 2013-11-20 21:24:21 PikFan yeah, about someone spamming his user talk 2013-11-20 21:24:44 PikFan so I'm going to give him a warning 2013-11-20 21:25:12 Espyo ok, check this out: http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130624024614/pikmin/images/5/5f/Map_Awakening_Wood.png 2013-11-20 21:25:15 Espyo that's a wikia pic 2013-11-20 21:25:21 Espyo we're going to do something similar, it's on the todo already 2013-11-20 21:25:29 Espyo (but ours will be better, of course) 2013-11-20 21:25:39 Espyo now, what I want to bring to attention is the onion and ship icons 2013-11-20 21:25:47 Espyo those are in the game's files as black and white textures 2013-11-20 21:25:55 Espyo so to color them right, you have to go through a weird setup 2013-11-20 21:25:59 Espyo which is what I did 2013-11-20 21:26:08 Espyo me and Los_Plagas talked about this yesterday, and I was sure they stole from me 2013-11-20 21:26:20 Espyo but now, looking at the exact colors 2013-11-20 21:26:43 Espyo my yellow Onion has an orange of FF8000, whereas theirs has a FF8600 orange 2013-11-20 21:26:52 Espyo subtle difference, but it proves they didn't steal it 2013-11-20 21:27:05 Espyo that's good because at least they aren't stealing us 2013-11-20 21:27:13 Espyo ...but it's bad, because they have skilled people on their side 2013-11-20 21:28:04 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@prii-303-41.monroe.lane.edu) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-20 21:49:53 @J http://video.wikia.com/wiki/Video_Wiki 2013-11-20 21:49:57 @J can you explain this to me? 2013-11-20 21:50:02 @J because all I see is a huge black area 2013-11-20 21:50:26 Espyo I see a gallery of videos 2013-11-20 21:52:52 @J hmm 2013-11-20 21:53:00 @J I see some below the huge black area 2013-11-20 21:53:24 @J ...oh, you have to enable cookies 2013-11-20 21:53:24 @J wow 2013-11-20 21:54:04 Espyo ... 2013-11-20 21:56:32 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-20 22:22:18 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-20 23:42:11 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-20 23:43:56 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 00:27:27 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 00:57:43 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y36-556-66-210.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-21 04:09:05 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-11-21 07:21:26 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@gje-23-80-243-717.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-11-21 14:27:36 --> Testyo (Testyo@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 14:27:36 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-21 14:28:01 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 19:47:52 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-21 19:55:21 @J ...poured out a glass of drink from a bottle, then put the glass in the fridge and the bottle next to my plate 2013-11-21 20:00:47 Espyo happens all the time 2013-11-21 20:10:54 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 20:26:45 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 20:51:59 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 21:04:39 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-21 21:11:43 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 21:11:54 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-21 21:16:16 --> PikFan (Mibbit@prii-303-41.monroe.lane.edu) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 21:16:20 PikFan okay 2013-11-21 21:16:24 PikFan I warned him last night 2013-11-21 21:17:36 PikFan ...or not 2013-11-21 21:17:42 PikFan I never saved it 2013-11-21 21:17:48 PikFan :| 2013-11-21 21:18:49 PikFan http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Forum:Copied_Wiki&diff=next&oldid=77139 2013-11-21 21:18:51 PikFan ...huh? 2013-11-21 21:19:04 PikFan I did sign with ~~~ 2013-11-21 21:19:08 PikFan maybe things broke 2013-11-21 21:20:05 PikFan well whatever that was I don't remember doing it 2013-11-21 21:24:36 PikFan well I have to leave in ~3 minutes 2013-11-21 21:26:47 PikFan and now I'm going to go 2013-11-21 21:26:48 PikFan bye 2013-11-21 21:26:51 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@prii-303-41.monroe.lane.edu) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-21 21:27:26 Espyo oh 2013-11-21 21:44:15 @J so, I don't really see the problem with this copied wiki thing 2013-11-21 21:51:34 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know&curid=1832&diff=77004&oldid=76019 2013-11-21 21:51:37 @J what's with this? 2013-11-21 21:56:02 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_game&curid=7191&diff=77030&oldid=74251 2013-11-21 21:56:04 @J also that 2013-11-21 21:58:53 Espyo because it's clearly some dolt trying to self-glorify himself by having a wiki all to himself, out of other people's hard work 2013-11-21 22:02:15 Espyo the fact was too obvious 2013-11-21 22:02:27 Espyo Smash is even bigger than Pikmin 2013-11-21 22:02:58 Espyo hmm, in terms of fanbase size 2013-11-21 22:03:14 Espyo that fact might've been fun to know when Brawl was being developed, but not after 2013-11-21 22:03:27 Espyo so now I took the opportunity to remove it and add a similar fact for Smash 4 2013-11-21 22:03:59 Espyo as for the infobox game things, I prettied up all infoboxes 2013-11-21 22:04:06 Espyo for infobox game, it was just the documentation and such 2013-11-21 22:04:12 @J I mean, why did you remove the link? 2013-11-21 22:04:19 Espyo it linked to Brawl 2013-11-21 22:04:22 Espyo not Smash 4 2013-11-21 22:04:33 Espyo but either way... why do we have default parameters that show the Pikmin boxart? 2013-11-21 22:04:43 @J yeah, that was my question 2013-11-21 22:04:54 @J oh 2013-11-21 22:04:54 @J ....... 2013-11-21 22:04:57 @J I'm silly 2013-11-21 22:05:01 @J I thought you _added_ those 2013-11-21 22:05:01 Espyo a game that has no boxart (thinking of a minigame somewhere, like Nintendo World), shouldn't really show the Pikmin box 2013-11-21 22:05:03 @J never mind, then 2013-11-21 22:05:05 Espyo heh 2013-11-21 22:05:19 @J and yeah, the Brawl thing, I didn't realise you changed it to mean Smash 4 2013-11-21 22:05:25 Espyo hehe 2013-11-21 22:05:25 @J I was thinking Brawl was still the latest game 2013-11-21 22:05:30 Espyo nope 2013-11-21 22:05:31 @J is 4 even out yet? 2013-11-21 22:05:33 Espyo but don't worry 2013-11-21 22:05:42 Espyo a LOT of people call it Super Smash Bros. Brawl 4 2013-11-21 22:05:53 Espyo and sometimes they call it just Brawl when referring to the latest 2013-11-21 22:06:00 Espyo being developed still; a new character might be unveiled tomorrow 2013-11-21 22:06:14 Espyo tomorrow's the release of the newest Mario game and Zelda game 2013-11-21 22:06:39 Espyo all main Mario games are already revealed, and as for Zelda, neither Zelda or Ganondorf show up in that game, I don't think, so everyone's wondering who's going to be unveiled 2013-11-21 22:06:59 Espyo anyway, on a more Pikmin-related note, Olimar's moveset thus far looks like the same as in Braw 2013-11-21 22:07:00 Espyo *l 2013-11-21 22:07:15 @J weird to call it the newest instalment when it's not out yet, then 2013-11-21 22:07:34 Espyo hmm 2013-11-21 22:07:42 Espyo I guess, but at the same time, it's kinda not 2013-11-21 22:08:08 @J also, I never knew instalment was spelled 'installment' in US English 2013-11-21 22:08:29 @J [21:58:53] Espyo because it's clearly some dolt trying to self-glorify himself by having a wiki all 2013-11-21 22:08:29 @J to himself, out of other people's hard work 2013-11-21 22:08:30 Espyo installment <— Firefox' not underlining this 2013-11-21 22:08:33 @J yes, but how does it harm us? 2013-11-21 22:08:38 @J if it doesn't, I see no problem 2013-11-21 22:08:46 Espyo it's not direct competition, but come on 2013-11-21 22:08:49 Espyo it's someone being a prick 2013-11-21 22:08:53 Espyo I can't live with that 2013-11-21 22:10:55 @J or it's someone having fun 2013-11-21 22:11:43 Espyo I really don't think... 2013-11-21 22:13:38 @J and you're just going to go spoiling the guy's fun 2013-11-21 22:13:46 @J clearly the E in Espyo stands for evil 2013-11-21 22:13:58 @J or maybe Espyo _is_ the Portuguese word for evil 2013-11-21 22:14:17 Espyo it is, but that's besides the point 2013-11-21 22:16:21 @J anyway, you're just seeing the worst in people 2013-11-21 22:16:42 @J it's clearly some kid who wants attention 2013-11-21 22:16:47 Espyo of course 2013-11-21 22:16:54 Espyo but even PikFan and the rest agree he's lying about spamming and such 2013-11-21 22:17:04 @J trying to shut it down...just seems kind of unnecessary 2013-11-21 22:17:17 @J meh, I don't know anything about that 2013-11-21 22:18:19 @J oh, kind of related - not sure if we talked about this before, but at some point I found a discussion on the Wikia Pikmin wiki about how Pikipedia was an illegal copy 2013-11-21 22:18:31 Espyo pfft 2013-11-21 22:18:36 Espyo suuuure it is 2013-11-21 22:43:19 --> Prezintenden (Mibbit@97-86-835-3-zxset.superkabel.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 22:43:33 Espyo hey 2013-11-21 22:43:37 Prezintenden yo 2013-11-21 22:43:57 Prezintenden so i gave up on IT, i have time now to make some articles and shit 2013-11-21 22:45:51 Prezintenden what's the easiest way to get screenshots from the wiiu? 2013-11-21 22:52:24 Espyo good 2013-11-21 22:52:34 Espyo and you're wise, I've regret every day of my college course 2013-11-21 22:52:39 Espyo hmm, I'd say a capture card 2013-11-21 22:52:46 Espyo apparently it's not that different from recording Wii footage 2013-11-21 22:52:54 Espyo which is not that different from recording GC footage 2013-11-21 22:54:35 Prezintenden nothing possible through wii-internet or something? 2013-11-21 22:55:35 Espyo nope 2013-11-21 22:55:52 Prezintenden i wouldn't call myself avaricious but 80€ JUST for uploading pikmin... 2013-11-21 22:55:52 Testyo 80 € = £ 68.416 / $ 108.512 2013-11-21 22:55:59 Prezintenden thank you testyo 2013-11-21 22:56:18 Espyo woah, what? 2013-11-21 22:56:20 Espyo 80€? 2013-11-21 22:56:20 Testyo 80 € = £ 68.416 / $ 108.512 2013-11-21 22:56:23 Espyo I got mine for 30€ 2013-11-21 22:56:23 Testyo 30 € = £ 25.656 / $ 40.692 2013-11-21 22:56:33 Prezintenden 1080p? 2013-11-21 22:56:39 Espyo and this is /Portugal/, everything is growing more expensive 2013-11-21 22:56:44 Espyo well, 720x576, IIRC 2013-11-21 22:56:59 Prezintenden mmmmm well i guess we could live with that 2013-11-21 22:57:04 Espyo decent enough quality, and 720x576 woks fine for wiki screenshots 2013-11-21 22:57:09 Espyo I made quite a few videos with it, haven't regret it yet 2013-11-21 22:57:16 Prezintenden what's it called? 2013-11-21 22:57:19 Prezintenden or the company 2013-11-21 22:57:25 Espyo ...it doesn't really have a name 2013-11-21 22:57:35 Espyo but at the same time, it's not like an unbranded kind 2013-11-21 22:57:46 Espyo I'll try my best to Google it based on what I know, hang on 2013-11-21 22:58:01 Prezintenden i can only find 70+ on amazon 2013-11-21 22:58:08 Prezintenden not sure what to look for 2013-11-21 22:59:16 Espyo http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/513042375/2011-New-Arrival-USB-2-0-Video-Audio-Grabber-AV-VCR-DVD-Capture-Card-Adapter-Support.jpg 2013-11-21 22:59:21 Espyo it's this, except with a different palette 2013-11-21 22:59:29 Espyo it says exactly that, "Video&Audio Grabber" 2013-11-21 23:00:13 Prezintenden "video grabber" seems to be the "official" name 2013-11-21 23:01:27 Espyo ah 2013-11-21 23:01:32 Espyo see if you can find something with that name then 2013-11-21 23:01:36 Espyo I actually bought mine on a store 2013-11-21 23:01:52 Espyo also, I bought some splitter cables, they allow you to have the gameplay on the TV and on the computer screen 2013-11-21 23:02:02 Espyo for screenshots, you probably don't need this, but to record gameplay video, you might 2013-11-21 23:02:16 Espyo seeing as there's a slight delay when watching the action happen on the computer screen 2013-11-21 23:09:40 @J I always used a DVD recorder, though obviously that's limited to standard resolution 2013-11-21 23:10:16 @J not sure what outputs the Wii U has, though I guess only HDMI can do higher resolution, for which you'd probably need a better capture card 2013-11-21 23:10:43 @J anyway, DVD recorder stuff looks better than capture card for non-HD, in my experience 2013-11-21 23:10:45 @J also hi 2013-11-21 23:14:37 Prezintenden looks like I'm going to have a lot of fun with my win7 64 bit with the cheap software 2013-11-21 23:15:59 Espyo I'm using w7 64-bit as well, and everything's always fine 2013-11-21 23:16:04 Espyo also I was VirtualDub, which is free 2013-11-21 23:16:47 Prezintenden okay so the wiiu has an AV out but not av cable help 2013-11-21 23:17:41 Prezintenden they want me to use the wii cable 2013-11-21 23:17:42 Prezintenden ... 2013-11-21 23:19:05 Prezintenden okay they sell them online 2013-11-21 23:19:33 Prezintenden "480P HD Component" 2013-11-21 23:19:35 Prezintenden what. 2013-11-21 23:20:35 Prezintenden http://bilder3.eazyauction.de/akonline/artikelbilder/162_eA.jpg 2013-11-21 23:20:43 Prezintenden somebody explain what this is 2013-11-21 23:21:46 @J that's component 2013-11-21 23:21:52 @J it doesn't exist in Europ 2013-11-21 23:21:53 @J e 2013-11-21 23:21:59 @J we have SCART 2013-11-21 23:22:19 Prezintenden ohhhh okay 2013-11-21 23:22:34 Prezintenden i was wondering why it looked so alien 2013-11-21 23:23:39 @J https://kb.speeddemosarchive.com/Recording 2013-11-21 23:23:43 @J lots of useful stuff there 2013-11-21 23:24:00 Espyo wow 2013-11-21 23:24:09 Espyo never thought of going to the sda kb for that 2013-11-21 23:25:10 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 23:25:58 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-21 23:26:37 @J yeah, encoding stuff too 2013-11-21 23:36:01 Prezintenden http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/tattoocountry/23985-1.jpg?stamp=1382762250796 2013-11-21 23:36:10 Prezintenden looks legit 2013-11-21 23:36:18 Prezintenden 2€ from hong kong 2013-11-21 23:36:18 Testyo 2 € = £ 1.7104 / $ 2.7128 2013-11-21 23:36:43 Prezintenden plus 0,19 shipping 2013-11-21 23:37:45 Prezintenden I'm tempted to try, it's just 2 bucks 2013-11-21 23:39:35 Espyo those are just cables 2013-11-21 23:39:50 Espyo the splitters 2013-11-21 23:39:56 Espyo but yeah, for 2€, I'd say go for it 2013-11-21 23:39:56 Testyo 2 € = £ 1.7104 / $ 2.7128 2013-11-21 23:40:02 Espyo mine cost 5€ each, and I bought 3 2013-11-21 23:40:02 Testyo 5 € = £ 4.276 / $ 6.782 2013-11-21 23:40:07 Espyo so it was actually 30 + 15 2013-11-21 23:40:28 Prezintenden ? 2013-11-21 23:40:38 Prezintenden so you don't think they split 2013-11-21 23:41:12 Prezintenden http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/tattoocountry/23985-2.jpg 2013-11-21 23:41:35 Prezintenden looks like in the head they split the signal in 2. pretty sure it's not that simple 2013-11-21 23:41:40 Prezintenden but lol 2013-11-21 23:41:47 Prezintenden it's too stupid not to work 2013-11-21 23:42:10 Prezintenden hell 2013-11-21 23:42:12 Prezintenden makes me laugh 2013-11-21 23:42:49 @J wait, how does that work? 2013-11-21 23:42:51 Prezintenden i genuinely don't understand how the s-video split works 2013-11-21 23:43:03 @J don't those sorts of cables normally have sticky-out bits? 2013-11-21 23:43:16 @J otherwise you need some sort of adapter to connect them to TV/things 2013-11-21 23:43:39 Prezintenden ...sticky out? you mean male ends? 2013-11-21 23:44:34 @J yeah 2013-11-21 23:45:00 Espyo I didn't say they didn't split 2013-11-21 23:45:04 Espyo in fact, I said they were the splitters 2013-11-21 23:45:13 Espyo it's simple, but it's kinda bizarre 2013-11-21 23:45:17 Espyo because it's backwards 2013-11-21 23:45:25 Espyo it's like... hard to explain 2013-11-21 23:45:36 Espyo looks like you grab what's being fed into the TV and dupe it into the computer 2013-11-21 23:45:42 Espyo instead of... splitting the Wii U's signal 2013-11-21 23:45:54 Espyo well, I can help you set that up when you get it, I'll take a look at how mine are 2013-11-21 23:46:30 @J [23:45:36] Espyo looks like you grab what's being fed into the TV and dupe it into the computer 2013-11-21 23:46:30 @J [23:45:42] Espyo instead of... splitting the Wii U's signal 2013-11-21 23:46:34 @J I don't get the difference 2013-11-21 23:46:38 Prezintenden at the moment I'm just trying to figure out what I'm about to buy 2013-11-21 23:47:17 Prezintenden i can sort of imagine a difference but it's probably not what he mean 2013-11-21 23:47:18 Espyo it's not TV <— Wii U —> computer 2013-11-21 23:47:18 Prezintenden t 2013-11-21 23:47:34 Espyo it looks more like it's Wii U —> TV —> computer 2013-11-21 23:47:50 @J hmm 2013-11-21 23:48:05 Prezintenden so which is which now 2013-11-21 23:48:17 Prezintenden first one is s video cable right 2013-11-21 23:48:28 Espyo everything is S-video everywhere 2013-11-21 23:48:32 Espyo err... 2013-11-21 23:48:34 Espyo wait 2013-11-21 23:48:39 Espyo it's really confusing, but also simple 2013-11-21 23:48:47 Espyo let me just unlock this phone and I'll get to it 2013-11-21 23:49:20 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-11-21 23:49:34 @J I used to connect the console to my DVD recorder, then connect that to my TV via both SCART and coaxial 2013-11-21 23:49:50 @J SCART is higher quality, switch to coaxial to avoid lag 2013-11-21 23:49:56 @J though of course that involves tuning it in 2013-11-21 23:50:32 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 23:53:06 Prezintenden http://i.imgur.com/soCG7tc.png?1?4664 2013-11-21 23:53:11 Prezintenden is THIS what you mean? 2013-11-21 23:53:31 Prezintenden i didn't even think that would work 2013-11-21 23:54:14 Espyo yeah 2013-11-21 23:54:18 Espyo it's a big mess like that 2013-11-21 23:54:24 Prezintenden okay 2013-11-21 23:54:36 Espyo right, that's what I meant 2013-11-21 23:54:47 Espyo it should be TV <— Wii U —> computer 2013-11-21 23:54:56 Espyo but it's Wii U <— computer —> TV 2013-11-21 23:55:09 Espyo it's like the signal's coming from the computer (capture card), and is being split into the other places 2013-11-21 23:55:11 Espyo it's so bizarre 2013-11-21 23:55:23 @J crazy 2013-11-21 23:55:26 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-21 23:55:27 Espyo mhm 2013-11-21 23:56:09 @J well, I should go 2013-11-21 23:56:11 @J goodnight 2013-11-21 23:56:19 Espyo night 2013-11-21 23:56:26 Prezintenden night 2013-11-21 23:56:28 Prezintenden http://i.ebayimg.com/t/RCA-Stecker-auf-2-RCA-Buchse-Y-Splitter-Audio-Video-AV-Adapter-Kabel-hv2n-/00/s/NTg1WDU4NQ==/z/40IAAOxy5rpSQr5a/$T2eC16V,!w8FIc6uCrE%28BSQr5ZkMtw~~60_12.JPG 2013-11-21 23:56:31 Prezintenden so i want this 2013-11-21 23:56:51 Prezintenden no wait 2013-11-21 23:56:57 Prezintenden that's totally wrong 2013-11-21 23:57:28 Prezintenden no 2013-11-21 23:57:41 Prezintenden i guess it doesn't matter what you put in it does it 2013-11-21 23:57:46 Prezintenden it goes both ways 2013-11-21 23:57:50 Prezintenden i think 2013-11-21 23:57:55 Prezintenden wow that's crazy 2013-11-22 00:12:51 <-- Prezintenden (Mibbit@97-86-835-3-zxset.superkabel.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-22 00:38:40 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-22 00:38:45 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-22 02:02:32 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-11-22 02:03:20 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 04:34:37 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-22 05:44:29 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 05:44:49 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-22 07:40:25 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: u) 2013-11-22 10:52:12 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 10:57:07 --> Testyo (Testyo@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 10:57:07 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-22 15:41:59 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Whiskerpillar_larva&redirect=no /what/ 2013-11-22 16:58:57 <-- J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-22 16:58:57 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-22 17:00:27 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 17:00:27 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-22 17:00:27 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-22 17:00:27 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo] 2013-11-22 17:00:27 -- Channel #pikipedia: 6 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 5 normals) 2013-11-22 17:00:27 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-22 17:00:27 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-22 17:00:29 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-22 17:00:29 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-22 19:41:16 @J [15:41:59] Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Whiskerpillar_larva&redirect=no /what/ 2013-11-22 19:41:17 @J fun 2013-11-22 19:42:36 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_enemy&diff=next&oldid=77038 2013-11-22 19:42:41 @J why not let it look like a link? 2013-11-22 20:02:42 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-22 20:03:11 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-22 20:07:12 --> Testyo (Testyo@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 20:07:12 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-22 20:07:12 --> Espyo (Mibbit@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 20:07:39 Espyo again, I wasn't the one that made links the same color as the text to begin with 2013-11-22 20:07:48 Espyo the other links on the infobox are like that 2013-11-22 20:38:27 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 20:51:03 @J you told me that before? 2013-11-22 21:15:45 Espyo what, what I said before AND after disconnecting? 2013-11-22 21:15:57 Espyo I couldn't be sure that what I said before disconnecting went through 2013-11-22 21:15:59 Espyo because windows is insane 2013-11-22 21:20:49 @J oh, that's why you said 'again' 2013-11-22 21:21:04 @J I thought you were referring to another day 2013-11-22 21:21:15 Espyo ah 2013-11-22 21:22:00 @J speaking of Windows, the not receiving the first mouse event on an unfocused window is fun 2013-11-22 21:23:25 Espyo what 2013-11-22 21:23:30 Espyo oh yeah 2013-11-22 21:23:56 Espyo wait, it does receive it 2013-11-22 21:24:02 Espyo and the unfocused window does parse it 2013-11-22 21:24:05 Espyo (and get into focus) 2013-11-22 21:25:40 @J yeah, it gets into focus, but doesn't do anything else with it 2013-11-22 21:25:56 @J like if you click a button on an unfocused window, you have to click twice 2013-11-22 21:26:41 Espyo I just tried, it's not the case 2013-11-22 21:26:54 Espyo although I remember that happening several times before 2013-11-22 21:27:14 @J hmm, maybe it depends on the window 2013-11-22 21:27:19 @J try some other programs 2013-11-22 21:27:24 @J like the file explorer thing 2013-11-22 21:28:45 Espyo nope, it worked fine... 2013-11-22 21:30:11 @J hmm, weird 2013-11-22 22:01:42 @J okay, why did Firefox change the 'inspect' keyboard shortcut for their developer tools to be the same as Firebug's? 2013-11-22 22:02:44 Espyo wow that sucs 2013-11-22 22:02:46 Espyo *sucks 2013-11-22 22:02:50 Espyo it used to be U, right? 2013-11-22 22:05:24 @J ctrl-shift-c 2013-11-22 22:05:27 @J wait 2013-11-22 22:05:28 @J oh 2013-11-22 22:05:33 @J I don't know 2013-11-22 22:05:39 @J it's c now 2013-11-22 22:06:25 Espyo oh 2013-11-22 22:06:39 Espyo I was thinking of the accelerator key on the context menu 2013-11-22 22:06:43 Espyo wait, ctrl+shift+c? 2013-11-22 22:06:50 Espyo that's so... not a debugger shortcut 2013-11-22 22:06:55 Espyo Firebug is F12, IIRC 2013-11-22 22:23:10 @J inspect,I said 2013-11-22 22:23:54 Espyo uh 2013-11-22 22:54:00 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-22 23:03:06 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 23:11:55 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 23:23:26 Espyo why is this still not deleted, though http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Whiskerpillar_larva&redirect=no 2013-11-22 23:24:09 Los_Plagas It's a redirect, though I can't see anybody looking up "Whiskerpillar larva." 2013-11-22 23:24:18 Los_Plagas Though I wouldn't think someone would luck up Ujadani 2013-11-22 23:24:33 Los_Plagas or "Insects of the Wistful Wild" either. 2013-11-22 23:24:35 Los_Plagas *look 2013-11-22 23:27:29 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-22 23:30:08 Espyo I think that's some conspiracy theory 2013-11-22 23:30:21 Espyo about the Whiskerpillars being Ujadani 2013-11-22 23:30:27 Espyo which is nuts and not stated anywhere 2013-11-22 23:30:46 Los_Plagas It was on an old talk page, but if it is a conspiracy, it's currently inactive. 2013-11-22 23:30:55 Espyo unless it's on like the e-cards, or Prima guide 2013-11-22 23:30:58 Espyo but if not, delete 2013-11-22 23:31:03 Los_Plagas It's not. 2013-11-22 23:31:08 Los_Plagas And yes, delete. 2013-11-22 23:31:20 Los_Plagas But we really should add another, more realistic redirect 2013-11-22 23:31:34 Los_Plagas Because who /is/ going to look up Ujadani? 2013-11-22 23:31:39 Los_Plagas Is "insects" too broad a term? 2013-11-22 23:32:05 Espyo we already have WW bugs and such 2013-11-22 23:32:11 Espyo and nobody really looks them up 2013-11-22 23:32:18 Espyo if they know about them, they know how to look 2013-11-22 23:32:27 Espyo also it's as easy as going to [[Wistful Wild]] 2013-11-22 23:33:28 Los_Plagas That's true. 2013-11-22 23:33:39 Los_Plagas Most players who do know would most likely take them for granted. 2013-11-22 23:34:50 Espyo yeah 2013-11-22 23:36:13 Los_Plagas Also, this is off-topic, weird, and kind of stalkerish, but I think I've figured out PikFan's name! . . .yeah, definitely stalkerish but whatever. 2013-11-22 23:37:14 Los_Plagas Again, please forgive me for sounding like a stalker. 2013-11-22 23:37:23 Los_Plagas It's just weird, so I felt like mentioning it. 2013-11-22 23:42:27 @J [23:23:26] Espyo why is this still not deleted, though 2013-11-22 23:42:27 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Whiskerpillar_larva&redirect=no 2013-11-22 23:42:29 @J happy now? 2013-11-22 23:42:57 * Espyo nods gleefully 2013-11-22 23:43:07 Espyo heh 2013-11-22 23:43:09 Espyo I know J's name 2013-11-22 23:43:12 Espyo but I keep forgetting 2013-11-22 23:43:15 @J me too 2013-11-22 23:43:20 Espyo common problem 2013-11-22 23:43:23 @J at both parts 2013-11-22 23:43:55 Los_Plagas But J told you 2013-11-22 23:43:58 Los_Plagas And that's no fun! 2013-11-22 23:44:14 @J I don't think I did 2013-11-22 23:44:22 @J it was just on my GitHub account, right? 2013-11-22 23:44:26 Espyo you did, but I mostly know because gmail sent — yeah, that 2013-11-22 23:44:34 @J wait, GMail? 2013-11-22 23:44:34 Los_Plagas Of course, there /is/ a box where you can enter your name upon signing up for Pikipedia 2013-11-22 23:44:50 Los_Plagas But it just says it's for "attribution," so who knows where I could find that? 2013-11-22 23:45:03 Los_Plagas Let me guess 2013-11-22 23:45:04 Espyo I get an e-mail when someone... 2013-11-22 23:45:05 Los_Plagas Is it James? 2013-11-22 23:45:08 Espyo wait, let me double check 2013-11-22 23:45:24 @J mm, not a bad guess 2013-11-22 23:45:25 @J but no 2013-11-22 23:45:32 Espyo ah yeah, GitHub 2013-11-22 23:45:40 Espyo when someone does something on my issues, I get an e-mail 2013-11-22 23:45:43 Espyo and that's there 2013-11-22 23:46:26 Los_Plagas John? Joe? Joseph? Jake? 2013-11-22 23:46:35 @J 2 of those 2013-11-22 23:46:50 Espyo Jekel 2013-11-22 23:46:59 @J what is that 2013-11-22 23:47:08 Espyo I'm not sure if that's right, but 2013-11-22 23:47:11 Espyo Dr. Jekel and Mr. Hyde 2013-11-22 23:47:19 @J Jekyll, maybe? 2013-11-22 23:47:27 @J yes 2013-11-22 23:47:32 Espyo ah, yeah 2013-11-22 23:48:34 @J so, I've been learning how to juggle recently, at lunchtimes 2013-11-22 23:48:39 Los_Plagas John & Joe? Joe & Joseph? Joseph & John? Joe & Jake? Jake & Joseph? John and Joseph? John & Jake? 2013-11-22 23:48:56 @J weird thing is, it makes my _legs_ ache 2013-11-22 23:49:16 @J then I realised that just shows I'm really bad, because it means I'm bending down to pick up the balls a lot 2013-11-22 23:49:30 @J Los_Plagas: Joe is short for Joseph, right? So those 2013-11-22 23:49:52 Los_Plagas Heh heh 2013-11-22 23:50:13 Los_Plagas I actually believe PikFan's name is Joe, or Jo (though that's more feminine), or something of the sort. 2013-11-22 23:50:23 @J hmm 2013-11-22 23:52:52 Espyo what if you're sitting down? 2013-11-22 23:53:06 Los_Plagas Because his email is "JoJoRose," so, yeah. That sounds like a corruption as a name, which is common in emails. 2013-11-22 23:53:08 Espyo Joe... I never actually thought about what it was a short for 2013-11-22 23:54:06 @J sitting down, what? 2013-11-22 23:54:25 Los_Plagas And sitting down might make it even harder depending on the height of the places where you're sitting, because then you might have to stretch your back more. 2013-11-22 23:55:05 Espyo while juggling 2013-11-22 23:55:12 Espyo hmm, yeah 2013-11-22 23:55:17 Espyo but it's really weird 2013-11-22 23:55:23 Espyo maybe you lean too much? 2013-11-22 23:55:47 @J wait, you're trying to explain the aching legs? 2013-11-22 23:56:21 Los_Plagas It could also be that. I've noticed people tend to bend their spine more during strenuous activity, or something that requires preciseness. 2013-11-22 23:56:31 Los_Plagas Take jump-roping, which has both 2013-11-22 23:56:56 Los_Plagas Whenever I try to do it, I always lean my back forward with every jump until I finally have to stop before I fall on my face. 2013-11-22 23:57:32 Espyo yeah 2013-11-22 23:59:57 @J I told you it's got to be because I'm bending down a lot, though 2013-11-23 00:00:43 Los_Plagas Let's not be /too/ pessimistic. 2013-11-23 00:00:57 Los_Plagas You can't be /that/ bad (unlike me . . .) 2013-11-23 00:02:57 @J mm 2013-11-23 00:03:18 @J well, it gets kind of boring if you can do a type of juggling fairly consistently 2013-11-23 00:03:29 @J so you try something different 2013-11-23 00:03:35 @J so it's always hard, and you always fail 2013-11-23 00:03:48 @J anyway, I should go 2013-11-23 00:04:02 @J I'm actually planning to do things tomorrow 2013-11-23 00:04:08 @J no procrastination for me 2013-11-23 00:04:09 @J bye 2013-11-23 00:04:13 Los_Plagas Bye. 2013-11-23 00:12:15 Espyo bye 2013-11-23 00:12:20 Espyo kinda late tgere 2013-11-23 00:12:21 Espyo *there 2013-11-23 00:21:08 Los_Plagas So, are you still planning to tell Wikia about DonoPik? 2013-11-23 00:25:14 Espyo eventually 2013-11-23 00:25:16 Espyo kinda lazing it 2013-11-23 00:25:23 Espyo also this isn't my laptop, and the wikia session keeps dropping 2013-11-23 00:25:30 Espyo I'd rather take care of that when things are in order 2013-11-23 00:49:43 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-23 00:50:02 <-- Testyo (Testyo@y12-987-50-15.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-23 01:14:46 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-23 03:31:57 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-11-23 03:38:01 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 04:34:45 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-11-23 06:35:24 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 06:35:44 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-23 08:49:07 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: ded) 2013-11-23 13:43:22 @J I forgot to defrost the bread, so lunch was entirely fruit and biscuits 2013-11-23 13:43:30 @J wait, no-one's here 2013-11-23 13:55:17 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 13:56:30 @J I forgot to defrost the bread, so lunch was entirely fruit and biscuits 2013-11-23 13:57:16 @J also, I was shopping today and one of the shops Rickrolled everyone 2013-11-23 13:57:22 @J I don't know if it was on purpose... 2013-11-23 13:58:30 Espyo I just woke up 2013-11-23 13:58:34 Espyo alarm clock didn't ring 2013-11-23 13:58:55 Espyo and in classic Espyo fashion, if it weren't for my mum ringing the cellphone, I'd have kept sleeping for a few more hours 2013-11-23 13:59:27 Espyo hmmmm, do people have to pay royalty to play that song anymore? 2013-11-23 13:59:32 Espyo it's been played so much by now 2013-11-23 14:33:21 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 14:33:21 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-23 16:39:42 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 16:54:46 --> Prezintenden (Mibbit@16-98-646-652-aegbi.superkabel.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 16:58:37 @J hey 2013-11-23 16:58:41 @J did you work out what to get? 2013-11-23 17:06:50 @J okay...I just almost washed my phone along with the dishes 2013-11-23 17:07:54 Espyo read that as clothes, at first, and found it normal 2013-11-23 17:08:04 Espyo though I guess the phone almost dropped in for a swim 2013-11-23 17:08:11 Espyo and not you purposely putting it on the sink 2013-11-23 17:12:47 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 17:12:47 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-23 17:15:22 @J no, I almost put it in on purpose 2013-11-23 17:15:35 @J I was going for a glass, and picked up the phone instead 2013-11-23 17:15:51 @J and, I mean, I walked to the other side of the room for it, so I wasn't just not looking 2013-11-23 17:17:11 @PikFan okay, DonoPik is still claiming that the spammer allegedly "deleted his posts" 2013-11-23 17:17:16 @PikFan also hi J 2013-11-23 17:17:18 @PikFan and Espyo 2013-11-23 17:17:26 @PikFan but you can "delete a post" 2013-11-23 17:17:29 @PikFan *can't 2013-11-23 17:17:49 Espyo eesh 2013-11-23 17:17:55 Espyo also hi 2013-11-23 17:18:08 @PikFan "I wasn't lying about the spammer, he deleted his posts after he posted them so it didn't appear on my history page. You didn't have to be so mean. :'(" 2013-11-23 17:18:28 @PikFan okay, well... 2013-11-23 17:18:48 @PikFan maybe, just maybe there was a 0.00000000000001% chance of the edit magically disappearing 2013-11-23 17:18:55 @PikFan and that chance happened 2013-11-23 17:20:28 @PikFan also is it possible to change your password without an email? 2013-11-23 17:21:45 @J I didn't know it emailed you 2013-11-23 17:22:04 @PikFan huh? 2013-11-23 17:22:24 @J when you change your password, I didn't know you get an email 2013-11-23 17:22:35 @PikFan oh 2013-11-23 17:23:17 @PikFan well, there's a user on Fanon who wishes to change his password, but he doesn't have an email address 2013-11-23 17:23:33 @PikFan so I'm not sure 2013-11-23 17:30:49 @PikFan okay, never mind that, then 2013-11-23 17:30:59 @PikFan ...an admin knows more than me 2013-11-23 17:31:03 @PikFan irony 2013-11-23 17:32:33 @PikFan in a reply to a bunch of users about the copied wiki situation, I wrote this: "It's just vile, even worse than Wikia's usual trash, and just poisons the name of Pikipedia." 2013-11-23 17:36:31 Prezintenden oh right i opened this window 2013-11-23 17:36:56 Prezintenden yeah i bought a sitck thingy for 10 but no splitter yet i can't find any 2013-11-23 17:37:45 Espyo pretty nice 2013-11-23 17:37:51 Espyo you can still test if it works correctly though 2013-11-23 17:38:05 Espyo you only really need the splitters to be able to see the gameplay on your TV AND computer 2013-11-23 17:38:33 Espyo PikFan: got something important I need you to test 2013-11-23 17:38:43 @PikFan ? 2013-11-23 17:39:41 Espyo what day are you at, in Pikmin 2? 2013-11-23 17:39:59 @PikFan which Pikmin 2, GCN or NPC! ? 2013-11-23 17:40:07 Espyo the furthest one 2013-11-23 17:40:11 @PikFan oh 2013-11-23 17:40:15 Espyo and I thought you only had NPC!, not both 2013-11-23 17:40:30 @PikFan hm 2013-11-23 17:40:33 @PikFan let me check 2013-11-23 17:40:39 @PikFan somewhere around day 566 2013-11-23 17:40:55 Espyo and are you getting Ujadani still? 2013-11-23 17:41:58 @PikFan yes 2013-11-23 17:42:05 @PikFan on day 567 2013-11-23 17:42:22 Espyo http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/Ujadani 2013-11-23 17:42:33 Espyo so "starting at Day 31 and ends at day 301" is incorrect? 2013-11-23 17:42:42 @PikFan yeah 2013-11-23 17:42:45 Espyo ... 2013-11-23 17:42:55 @PikFan whoever wrote that plain hasn't played the game long enough 2013-11-23 17:43:02 Espyo what version are you at day ~566 at? NPC!? 2013-11-23 17:43:13 @PikFan no, in GCN 2013-11-23 17:43:20 Espyo hmm 2013-11-23 17:43:21 @PikFan day 567 is on GCN 2013-11-23 17:43:26 Espyo maybe that limit is NPC!-only 2013-11-23 17:43:34 Espyo because I read elsewhere that they disappear after day 300 as well 2013-11-23 17:43:44 @PikFan hm 2013-11-23 17:43:45 Prezintenden pretty sure that was written way before npc was released 2013-11-23 17:43:48 Miles I've read about that long before NPC was released 2013-11-23 17:43:54 Espyo either wikia copied the fake fact from that place, it was the other way around, or it's actually true, but for GCN only 2013-11-23 17:44:13 Espyo in that case, it can't have anything to do with the Wii version 2013-11-23 17:44:15 Miles Considering some people thought that your file was deleted on Day 300 2013-11-23 17:44:16 @PikFan well I've gotten ujadani after day 300 so that's a lie 2013-11-23 17:44:16 Miles Um, yeah 2013-11-23 17:44:21 Espyo pfffthah, what? 2013-11-23 17:44:29 Prezintenden the good ol gamefaqs days 2013-11-23 17:44:30 Espyo why would it be deleted after day 30? 2013-11-23 17:44:31 @PikFan .../what/ 2013-11-23 17:44:39 Miles People are idiots 2013-11-23 17:44:45 Espyo true 2013-11-23 17:44:51 Espyo *day 300 2013-11-23 17:45:06 Espyo time to point this out on the wiki 2013-11-23 17:45:22 @PikFan another correction in wikia's fallacies 2013-11-23 17:45:51 Espyo this just further strengthens my theory that someone on Pikmin wikia is sabotaging them 2013-11-23 17:45:59 @PikFan yeah, so since I'm on day 567, the day of the ujadani is only 4 days away 2013-11-23 17:47:48 --> ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 17:48:08 <-- ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-23 17:48:15 --> ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 17:48:23 ThePikminMeister Hi pikfan 2013-11-23 17:48:26 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Ujadani&diff=77173&oldid=75984 feels good to stab wikia 2013-11-23 17:48:31 @PikFan hi ThePikminMeister 2013-11-23 17:48:49 ThePikminMeister I'm guessing you are back from hiatus 2013-11-23 17:49:05 @PikFan yeah 2013-11-23 17:49:10 ThePikminMeister Ok 2013-11-23 17:49:17 @PikFan Espyo: ...I can see some bias in there 2013-11-23 17:49:24 Espyo :( 2013-11-23 17:49:27 Espyo it's not aimed at wikia though 2013-11-23 17:49:29 @PikFan er, not bias 2013-11-23 17:49:36 Espyo again, I've seen that come from other places as well 2013-11-23 17:49:45 @PikFan "This myth must've stemmed from the rumors that were discussed after the game was released" 2013-11-23 17:49:46 ThePikminMeister So, what did you mean by "attribute the work to us"? 2013-11-23 17:49:54 @PikFan seems a bit out of place if you ask me 2013-11-23 17:49:55 Espyo that = "Ujadani disappear after day 300" 2013-11-23 17:50:06 Espyo like, the wording is awkward? 2013-11-23 17:50:20 Miles Like I don't think that's worth mentioning at all 2013-11-23 17:50:29 @PikFan ThePikminMeister: I meant that you just need to credit Pikipedia and Pikmin Fanon for the work 2013-11-23 17:50:35 ThePikminMeister Oh ok 2013-11-23 17:51:05 Espyo it points out that we know about the 300-day thing, and we know it's a fake 2013-11-23 17:51:15 Espyo people go to wikia, see that they disappear after day 300 2013-11-23 17:51:19 Espyo then they go to us, don't see that 2013-11-23 17:51:25 Espyo and assume we're missing info 2013-11-23 17:51:26 ThePikminMeister Well I sent Donopik a message on pikminopedia so I'll see what he wants me to do 2013-11-23 17:51:33 @PikFan okay 2013-11-23 17:51:45 @PikFan Espyo: I see 2013-11-23 17:53:19 Espyo I have to admit: taking a jab at Pikmin wikia with that edit was satisfying 2013-11-23 17:53:29 @PikFan hehe 2013-11-23 17:53:32 Espyo but I did it mostly to let the information be known that that's a wrong rumor 2013-11-23 17:53:54 Espyo instead of making it like we know nothing about anything, and the others do (regardless of being right or not) 2013-11-23 17:57:52 @PikFan also I have a question that might take a very /very/ long time to answer 2013-11-23 17:57:56 @J [17:51:15] Espyo people go to wikia, see that they disappear after day 300 2013-11-23 17:57:56 @J [17:51:19] Espyo then they go to us, don't see that 2013-11-23 17:57:56 @J [17:51:25] Espyo and assume we're missing info 2013-11-23 17:58:01 @J ...no-one's going to do that 2013-11-23 17:58:06 @PikFan what happens when you get to day 1000? 2013-11-23 17:58:17 Espyo how are they not? 2013-11-23 17:58:22 Espyo we do that all the time, the other way around 2013-11-23 17:58:37 Espyo and maybe not specifically scout every single bit of every single page and compare them 2013-11-23 17:58:45 Espyo but be a common wikia-goer, notice that "fact" 2013-11-23 17:59:04 Espyo and then a few days later, learn about Pikipedia, and decide to check out what's up with us 2013-11-23 17:59:51 Espyo that edit could be the difference between us being the "lone rangers who think they're cool making their own thing, when they can't even keep up-to-date with all the facts and tidbits", or "those guys that actually care about the content and information" 2013-11-23 18:00:21 Espyo the day number should be displayed normally on the bubble 2013-11-23 18:00:34 Espyo Pikmin and Pikmin 2 squash numbers on the HUD 2013-11-23 18:01:02 Espyo as per Miles' Pikmin count underflow video with the Blues, the number is barely readable if it's 6+ digits long, but it's all there 2013-11-23 18:01:18 @PikFan so "1000" will be shown, but squished? 2013-11-23 18:01:19 ThePikminMeister So much text 2013-11-23 18:01:27 Espyo yep 2013-11-23 18:01:29 ThePikminMeister All I see is blue text 2013-11-23 18:01:36 @PikFan that'd be Espyo 2013-11-23 18:01:41 ThePikminMeister I know 2013-11-23 18:02:16 @PikFan Espyo, stop drowning ThePikminMeister with your blue text that's like an ocean 2013-11-23 18:02:23 @PikFan just kidding 2013-11-23 18:02:23 ThePikminMeister Lol 2013-11-23 18:02:34 Espyo gotta type fast 2013-11-23 18:02:51 ThePikminMeister I'm getting messages from Donopik so brb 2013-11-23 18:03:24 @PikFan okay 2013-11-23 18:07:41 ThePikminMeister I'm back 2013-11-23 18:07:54 @PikFan welcome back 2013-11-23 18:08:25 ThePikminMeister Donopik said that he wants to block you from the wiki, for some reason. 2013-11-23 18:08:35 @PikFan which wiki? 2013-11-23 18:08:41 ThePikminMeister Pikminopedia 2013-11-23 18:08:41 @PikFan the wikia? 2013-11-23 18:08:55 @PikFan why would he block me, all I did was leave a comment 2013-11-23 18:09:03 ThePikminMeister That's what I told him 2013-11-23 18:09:11 ThePikminMeister He said it was "offensive" 2013-11-23 18:09:30 @PikFan can you bring DonoPik on here, please? 2013-11-23 18:09:52 ThePikminMeister He told me he isn't able to use the chatroom here 2013-11-23 18:10:01 @PikFan oh 2013-11-23 18:10:01 ThePikminMeister But the chatroom at pikminopedia is available 2013-11-23 18:10:12 @PikFan eeh... 2013-11-23 18:10:39 @PikFan wait, how can he be using Pikminopedia's chatroom but not ours? 2013-11-23 18:10:47 ThePikminMeister I... 2013-11-23 18:10:50 ThePikminMeister I don't know 2013-11-23 18:11:09 Prezintenden seems sketchy 2013-11-23 18:11:12 Prezintenden might be a trap 2013-11-23 18:11:37 ThePikminMeister Maybe 2013-11-23 18:11:45 ThePikminMeister Ill find out 2013-11-23 18:11:48 @PikFan It's a trap! 2013-11-23 18:13:09 ThePikminMeister I asked him to go to the pikminopedia chatroom 2013-11-23 18:13:17 ThePikminMeister I'll ask him some questions 2013-11-23 18:15:18 Espyo btw, seeing as we're gathered here now 2013-11-23 18:15:30 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/User:Espyo/max_kills I've been completing this yesterday 2013-11-23 18:15:35 Espyo now I have to do the Pikmin 2 things 2013-11-23 18:15:43 Espyo is there still any doubt about what this project is all about? 2013-11-23 18:15:54 @PikFan no 2013-11-23 18:15:55 ThePikminMeister Ocean time 2013-11-23 18:15:55 Espyo not sure if everybody already understands what this study is for or not 2013-11-23 18:16:09 Espyo mostly Prez and GP, IIRC 2013-11-23 18:16:18 @PikFan it's to record how much Pikmin an enemy can kill at one time, right? 2013-11-23 18:16:34 @PikFan *how much Pikmin maximum 2013-11-23 18:16:35 Espyo for each attack, yeah 2013-11-23 18:16:44 Espyo I've discovered some interesting things 2013-11-23 18:16:57 Espyo for instance, what's the difference between Red Bulborbs and Spotty Bulbears? 2013-11-23 18:17:01 ThePikminMeister Ranging Bloysters 2013-11-23 18:17:05 ThePikminMeister They are weird 2013-11-23 18:17:11 Espyo besides how they look, and how the formers' spots blinks 2013-11-23 18:17:23 Espyo yeah they are 2013-11-23 18:17:43 ThePikminMeister I wonder what miyamoto was thinking when he implemented that 2013-11-23 18:17:46 @PikFan thinking about going outside now 2013-11-23 18:17:48 Espyo *the latter's spots blink 2013-11-23 18:17:48 ThePikminMeister Why am I pink? 2013-11-23 18:17:49 @PikFan bye 2013-11-23 18:17:53 ThePikminMeister Bye pikfan 2013-11-23 18:17:54 Espyo bye 2013-11-23 18:17:58 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: outside, maybe back later) 2013-11-23 18:19:11 Prezintenden yeah i get what it's listing. was that your question? 2013-11-23 18:20:44 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/Template_talk:Infobox_enemy here, you point out that this listing is inaccurate and pointless 2013-11-23 18:20:57 ThePikminMeister Well anyway I'm gonna go, bye 2013-11-23 18:20:59 <-- ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-23 18:21:47 Prezintenden oh dear, espyo confronting me with the sins of my youth 2013-11-23 18:22:09 Espyo hehe 2013-11-23 18:22:11 Espyo that's why I was asking 2013-11-23 18:22:17 Espyo to make sure that everything's clearer now 2013-11-23 18:23:57 Prezintenden funny, i do think it would be interesting to know. putting it in the infobox seems a bit much though 2013-11-23 18:24:28 Espyo hmm 2013-11-23 18:24:32 Espyo any other suggestion? 2013-11-23 18:24:40 Espyo maybe a section on the articles for extra info 2013-11-23 18:24:43 Espyo because there's more info per enemy 2013-11-23 18:24:49 Prezintenden on where to put it? no, infobox seems the best place 2013-11-23 18:24:54 Espyo like if they go back to their original spot after traveling a certain distance 2013-11-23 18:25:31 Prezintenden something like a "specs" section? hm 2013-11-23 18:25:45 --> ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 18:25:56 <-- ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-23 18:26:13 --> Donopik (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 18:26:29 Espyo the problem is that stuff like the distance they can travel until they go back isn't specific 2013-11-23 18:26:36 Espyo we can add whether or not they /do/ go back 2013-11-23 18:26:41 Espyo but not exact distances, I don't think 2013-11-23 18:26:56 <-- Donopik (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-23 18:27:06 Espyo uh... 2013-11-23 18:27:44 Espyo anyway, maybe add the info on the body of the article, and specify the number after describing the corresponding attack 2013-11-23 18:28:18 Prezintenden yeah that sounds good 2013-11-23 18:29:02 Prezintenden hm, you don't think the chase-distance is fixed for all creatures? 2013-11-23 18:29:11 Espyo it might be, yeah 2013-11-23 18:29:17 Espyo no problem in that case 2013-11-23 18:29:41 Espyo though I would like to make it look like we have a full study on the kill cap for every attack in the games, and not just a random number pointed out in an article 2013-11-23 18:30:13 Espyo putting it in the infobox makes it look like something all enemy articles have, but on the body, it looks like only some articles have that info, and it looks like we didn't research all attacks of all enemies 2013-11-23 18:30:32 Espyo also, should an attack have a different cap between Pikmin 1 and 2, the infobox would have to get cluttered 2013-11-23 18:30:43 Espyo but I might go with the body of the article, in the end 2013-11-23 18:33:14 Espyo oh, regarding what I was saying before 2013-11-23 18:33:19 Espyo Bulbears have more HP 2013-11-23 18:33:30 Miles [13:29:05] hm, you don't think the chase-distance is fixed for all creatures? 2013-11-23 18:33:31 Espyo but it turns out they can also eat 5 Pikmin in one gulp 2013-11-23 18:33:36 Miles Enemy's have a "range" in the data 2013-11-23 18:33:39 Miles ... 2013-11-23 18:33:41 Miles Enemies 2013-11-23 18:33:43 Miles Not Enemy's 2013-11-23 18:33:45 Espyo whereas Bulborbs eat 3 2013-11-23 18:33:47 Espyo ah, great 2013-11-23 18:33:59 Espyo I wasn't ready to say for sure a "yes" or a "no" regarding how hard it is to know the distance 2013-11-23 18:34:09 Espyo because I can't check — don't have a Pikmin 2 ISO on this laptop 2013-11-23 18:34:15 Prezintenden you mean chase range specifically? couldn't it also be the notice-pikmin-and-engage- range? 2013-11-23 18:34:26 Espyo mightn't be 2013-11-23 18:34:39 Espyo Dwarf Bulborbs don't even notice you if you're so close that your cursor is over them 2013-11-23 18:34:47 Espyo but they do chase you for more than that distance 2013-11-23 18:34:59 Espyo is the comment for those lines in the data files in Japanese? 2013-11-23 18:35:03 Prezintenden which would speak for my case 2013-11-23 18:35:23 Espyo I'm not following 2013-11-23 18:35:40 Espyo the Dwarf Bulborbs' notice distance is just about the distance the cursor can get from a captain 2013-11-23 18:35:52 Espyo but the chase distance, the distance until they give up and head back, is a lot longer 2013-11-23 18:36:16 Espyo unless I'm missing something or misreading 2013-11-23 18:36:28 Espyo (working out atm as well, kinda hard to focus for too long) 2013-11-23 18:36:35 Prezintenden if d.bulborbs notice you at a smaller range than others but follow you the same range as others, it would stand to reason that "range" is defined as the notice distance and for every creautre individually, and chase is set constant for all somewhere 2013-11-23 18:37:30 Prezintenden probably I'm spouting bullshit but I'm just saying just because there's a thingy called range it doesn't mean jack until we know what exactly it does 2013-11-23 18:37:31 Miles ...No it wouldn't 2013-11-23 18:37:35 Prezintenden ... 2013-11-23 18:37:51 Prezintenden and why would that be 2013-11-23 18:37:56 Miles It would mean that each enemy has two different values 2013-11-23 18:38:02 Miles 1 for noticing and 1 for chasing 2013-11-23 18:38:10 Espyo yeah 2013-11-23 18:38:19 Espyo that's the whole thing we were talking about, right? 2013-11-23 18:38:35 Prezintenden yes. what speaks against that? as far as i understand, we only have one right now. regardless of which it it, we need a second 2013-11-23 18:38:45 Prezintenden it is* 2013-11-23 18:38:52 Espyo 18:34 Prezintenden you mean chase range specifically? couldn't it also be the notice-pikmin-and-engage- range? 2013-11-23 18:39:04 Espyo that "couldn't it also be" makes it sounds like you think they're the same value 2013-11-23 18:39:31 Prezintenden oops. well i meant it could be either. no, i don't mean it's the same, definitely not 2013-11-23 18:40:04 Espyo ah 2013-11-23 18:40:09 Espyo misunderstanding then 2013-11-23 18:40:14 Prezintenden you guys both thought i meant it like that? maybe it's my german syntax coming through, i thought it was perfectly obvious what i meant... 2013-11-23 18:40:19 Espyo hehe yeah 2013-11-23 18:40:32 Espyo ok, as for the "chase until give up" distance being the same between all enemies that DO give up 2013-11-23 18:40:41 Espyo well, Miles pointed out that that value is on the data files 2013-11-23 18:40:49 Espyo so it mustn't be a hardcoded constant through all 2013-11-23 18:41:08 Espyo actually, when researching the values yesterday for the kill caps 2013-11-23 18:41:10 Prezintenden wait, so ARE we sure it is THAT? 2013-11-23 18:41:17 Espyo I'm not sure 2013-11-23 18:41:30 Espyo dunno if Miles knows if that's the "chase until give up" or "notice" range 2013-11-23 18:41:53 Espyo I think while getting the values yesterday, I chased some Dwarfs and some mature Bulborbs 2013-11-23 18:42:05 Prezintenden yeah, so that was my actual question, which remains unanswered 2013-11-23 18:42:05 Espyo and I think the Dwarfs ran towards me for a smaller distance than mature ones 2013-11-23 18:42:08 Espyo so it might be different 2013-11-23 18:42:11 Espyo ah, I see 2013-11-23 18:42:15 Espyo ok, it's all making sense now 2013-11-23 18:42:22 Espyo the enemy files have a "range" value of sorts 2013-11-23 18:42:28 Prezintenden the troubles of glaobalisation 2013-11-23 18:42:33 Prezintenden *global, gah 2013-11-23 18:42:44 Espyo is this the "chase until give up" or "notice" range? <- that's the question 2013-11-23 18:43:10 Espyo looking back at your confusing sentence, it makes sense now 2013-11-23 18:43:14 Prezintenden neutral enemies could help, maybe? honeywhisps would have n otice range, but no chace range 2013-11-23 18:43:15 Espyo but without context, it didn't 2013-11-23 18:43:21 Prezintenden *chase 2013-11-23 18:43:23 Espyo hmm 2013-11-23 18:43:35 Espyo if they use that range as a "notice" one, yeah 2013-11-23 18:43:40 Espyo not really sure if I'd call it a "notice" 2013-11-23 18:43:45 Espyo more like a "spawn distance" 2013-11-23 18:43:55 Espyo it SHOULD be the "notice" range, yeah, don't see why not 2013-11-23 18:43:57 Prezintenden mmmmmmmmm 2013-11-23 18:43:57 Espyo but who knows 2013-11-23 18:44:05 Espyo Pikmin files aren't exactly the cleanest things there is 2013-11-23 18:44:10 Espyo worth a try, sure 2013-11-23 18:44:15 Prezintenden yeah they might have a different programming there entirely 2013-11-23 18:44:22 Espyo nothing I can do atm though, with the whole not having an ISO here thing 2013-11-23 18:44:25 Espyo mhm 2013-11-23 18:44:44 Prezintenden i could give you mine somehow 2013-11-23 18:44:58 Prezintenden or if you're really crazy you can teach me how to access them 2013-11-23 18:45:19 Espyo (one sec, working out) 2013-11-23 18:50:04 Prezintenden hoohoooooo yeah that glitches page loads slow as ass 2013-11-23 18:50:38 Prezintenden and i have amazing internet and a pretty high-end pc 2013-11-23 18:50:54 Espyo I didn't notice it being too slow on my normal laptop 2013-11-23 18:50:57 Espyo but on this one it's hell 2013-11-23 18:51:01 Espyo J's taking care of it 2013-11-23 18:51:08 Espyo anyway, do you have Dolphin? 2013-11-23 18:51:13 Prezintenden it takes about 2 seconds until it stops stuttering when i scroll 2013-11-23 18:51:20 Prezintenden that's waaaay long 2013-11-23 18:51:28 Prezintenden yeah got it 2013-11-23 18:51:32 Espyo it really is 2013-11-23 18:51:57 Espyo ok, on the list of games on the main Dolphin window, right-click Pikmin 2, click properties 2013-11-23 18:52:01 Espyo and then go on the filesystem tab 2013-11-23 18:52:05 Espyo and... 2013-11-23 18:52:13 Espyo well, this is the fun part: painstakingly search where the enemy files are 2013-11-23 18:52:28 Espyo unless Miles knows where they are from the get-go, you kinda have to visit every folder 2013-11-23 18:52:34 Espyo except obvious ones like the music folder 2013-11-23 18:52:41 Espyo the enemy configs should be .ini files 2013-11-23 18:52:55 Prezintenden okay sec i have the iso but not dolphin apparently... 2013-11-23 18:55:02 Espyo should be easy to download 2013-11-23 18:55:11 Espyo not that huge 2013-11-23 18:55:16 Prezintenden yeah I'm done 2013-11-23 18:55:35 Espyo https://dolphin-emu.org/ this is the official site, btw 2013-11-23 18:55:41 Espyo don't download from the other jackass' site 2013-11-23 18:56:23 Prezintenden ...what the 2013-11-23 18:56:40 Prezintenden it projects the game into a window that's outside of my screen 2013-11-23 18:56:47 Prezintenden any idea how i can pull it over 2013-11-23 18:56:57 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/Day#References also, the config file that controls the span of a day is in /user/Abe/time/time.ini, and the comments for the lines are in Japanese 2013-11-23 18:57:02 Espyo so the enemy files should be something similar 2013-11-23 18:57:18 Espyo right-click on the window on the taskbar, choose move 2013-11-23 18:57:23 Espyo oh, or press the windows key and left 2013-11-23 18:57:26 Prezintenden got it from the jackass site 2013-11-23 18:57:26 Miles Well 2013-11-23 18:57:30 Espyo to make it stick to the left side of the screen 2013-11-23 18:57:36 Espyo ...it shouldn't even allow you to run then 2013-11-23 18:57:38 Miles There's a folder first thing called "enemy" 2013-11-23 18:57:45 Espyo a warning should pop up if you downloaded it from the non-official website 2013-11-23 18:58:02 Espyo oh, so it's not in the depths of the Pikmin 2 file tree labyrinth? 2013-11-23 18:58:16 Espyo it was hell to find the Treasure Hoard and Piklopedia icons, at least 2013-11-23 18:59:16 Prezintenden lol 2013-11-23 18:59:41 Prezintenden okay so i did have dolphin installed it was on my desktop and i used that somehow? yeah anyway... 2013-11-23 19:00:15 Espyo also the thing with the other website is that at one point, one of the admins was banned from the Dolphin crew for some reason, but he closed the as-of-then official website from the others 2013-11-23 19:00:29 Espyo and now he refuses to take it down because he's generating ad revenue from the others' hard work 2013-11-23 19:00:39 Prezintenden life's good 2013-11-23 19:02:27 Prezintenden okay sry was in german for some stupid reason 2013-11-23 19:02:51 Prezintenden ....I actually wrote sry I've been playing too much league of legends <_< 2013-11-23 19:03:21 Espyo heh 2013-11-23 19:03:27 Espyo hah 2013-11-23 19:03:35 Espyo reminds me of when I was— brb 2013-11-23 19:04:38 -- BetaMaster64 is now known as AFK-DOS 2013-11-23 19:05:58 Espyo —playing Age of Empires and Minecraft all the time 2013-11-23 19:06:13 Espyo I would go on IRC and Skype and the like, and press T or Enter before typing anything 2013-11-23 19:06:28 Prezintenden hahah 2013-11-23 19:06:34 Espyo it's even more funny when I press T to talk on AoE, and Enter on Minecraft 2013-11-23 19:07:32 Prezintenden wow what does this stuff do 2013-11-23 19:07:52 Prezintenden anyway haven't found any ini files for enemies. that IS what I'm looking for right? 2013-11-23 19:08:13 Miles No 2013-11-23 19:09:06 Miles enemy > parm > decompress the file there 2013-11-23 19:09:39 Espyo oh 2013-11-23 19:10:46 Prezintenden decompress how 2013-11-23 19:12:42 Espyo gonna need a tool for that 2013-11-23 19:12:54 Espyo can't remember where to find it 2013-11-23 19:12:59 Espyo what format are the files? .arc? 2013-11-23 19:13:52 Prezintenden .szs 2013-11-23 19:15:28 Espyo right 2013-11-23 19:15:33 Espyo let me see if I still remember what tool I use 2013-11-23 19:15:36 Espyo and where to find it 2013-11-23 19:16:06 Espyo http://www.amnoid.de/gc/ here 2013-11-23 19:16:13 Espyo extracting a .szs generates a .arc, IIRC 2013-11-23 19:16:27 Espyo and a yay0 2013-11-23 19:16:42 Espyo it's kind of a deep rabbit hole, but it shouldn't be too complicated to extract everything 2013-11-23 19:19:31 Prezintenden good thing i started IT or else i would have needed to ask you how to navigate in the shell 2013-11-23 19:19:38 Prezintenden half a year well spent 2013-11-23 19:20:04 Espyo hehe 2013-11-23 19:20:13 Espyo wait, college or high school? 2013-11-23 19:22:51 Prezintenden college 2013-11-23 19:23:12 Espyo hmm 2013-11-23 19:23:24 Prezintenden got it 2013-11-23 19:24:04 Prezintenden we got a list with the enemy names? 2013-11-23 19:26:44 Espyo kinda, yeah 2013-11-23 19:26:59 Espyo only English to internal name, though 2013-11-23 19:27:08 Prezintenden i can't find range what 2013-11-23 19:27:17 Prezintenden not even in chappy 2013-11-23 19:27:29 Espyo to know a character's internal name, go on [[Piklopedia]], click on an enemy's icon file, and you'll get the name there 2013-11-23 19:27:49 Espyo I wrote the name and location of all icon files in the ISO, this includes the internal name of the enemy 2013-11-23 19:27:58 Espyo are the other values labeled? 2013-11-23 19:28:05 Espyo like HP and the like 2013-11-23 19:29:46 Prezintenden heheh, nope 2013-11-23 19:30:49 Espyo well, the range must be there somewhere 2013-11-23 19:31:05 Espyo aren't the labeled with Japanese? or maybe garbage characters 2013-11-23 19:31:08 Espyo because file encoding yay 2013-11-23 19:31:18 Prezintenden yeah got a lot of keanji here 2013-11-23 19:31:23 Prezintenden *kanji 2013-11-23 19:31:27 Espyo right 2013-11-23 19:31:34 Espyo ...run that through Google Translator, I guess 2013-11-23 19:31:57 Prezintenden heheh 2013-11-23 19:32:24 Prezintenden well hello there 2013-11-23 19:32:34 Prezintenden yeah, should have thought of that myself, durr 2013-11-23 19:33:10 Prezintenden {fp09} 4 400.000000 # territory {fp10} 4 50.000000 # home range {fp11} 4 70.000000 # private distance {fp12} 4 500.000000 # sight distance {fp25} 4 50.000000 # high visibility {fp13} 4 90.000000 # view angle {fp14} 4 500.000000 # search distance {fp26} 4 50.000000 # search high {fp15} 4 90.000000 # search angle 2013-11-23 19:33:20 Prezintenden well, so much to there being only 2 2013-11-23 19:34:16 Prezintenden it also lists white pikmin damage btw 2013-11-23 19:35:07 Espyo hah! 2013-11-23 19:35:09 Espyo amazing 2013-11-23 19:35:14 Espyo oh wow, that's not constant? 2013-11-23 19:35:27 Espyo why didn't we dig into this before? 2013-11-23 19:35:35 Espyo well, some of us might, but never put it to use 2013-11-23 19:35:49 Espyo this is specially useful to me so I can know what kind of attributes to have for enemy types, for the Pikmin fangame engine 2013-11-23 19:37:49 Prezintenden you mean not knowing that white damage differs? no, we knew that. i did, at least, pretty sure most did too 2013-11-23 19:38:14 Prezintenden mi les and green for sure 2013-11-23 19:39:46 Espyo I didn't know 2013-11-23 19:39:51 Espyo and it's not mentioned on the wiki, afaik 2013-11-23 19:44:04 Prezintenden sight distance and search distance seem to be the important ones, they're way smaller for dwarf bulborbs 2013-11-23 19:45:24 Espyo ah 2013-11-23 19:46:12 Prezintenden what is earthquake faint time... 2013-11-23 19:46:50 Prezintenden "time" is right, i actually know that kanji, no clue about the rest though 2013-11-23 19:47:08 Prezintenden earth-something time 2013-11-23 19:50:19 Espyo used where? for enemies? 2013-11-23 19:50:24 Espyo does it appear in the data of all of them? 2013-11-23 19:56:19 Prezintenden yep, for all of them 2013-11-23 19:56:28 Prezintenden earthquake faint established is always the same, time is different 2013-11-23 19:56:47 Prezintenden GAH 2013-11-23 19:56:50 Prezintenden PRUPLE STUN 2013-11-23 19:56:55 Prezintenden *purple... 2013-11-23 19:57:01 Prezintenden what else could it be 2013-11-23 19:57:42 Prezintenden can doodlebugs be stunned... no... but they have a faint time 2013-11-23 19:57:42 Espyo ah haha 2013-11-23 20:00:56 Prezintenden all enemies have it, but not plants. but i wouldn't know what else it could be 2013-11-23 20:01:10 Prezintenden interesting that some are stunned longer than others 2013-11-23 20:06:13 Espyo yeah 2013-11-23 20:06:31 Espyo I'll write a script of sorts that gets all of that data out 2013-11-23 20:06:39 Espyo so we can compare it nice and cleanly with a table 2013-11-23 20:32:34 @J oh, I didn't check here for the last couple of hours 2013-11-23 20:32:37 @J did I miss anything? 2013-11-23 20:33:06 Espyo quite a bt 2013-11-23 20:33:08 Espyo *bit 2013-11-23 20:41:10 @J [18:51:01] Espyo J's taking care of it 2013-11-23 20:41:12 @J I am? 2013-11-23 20:41:21 @J [19:19:31] Prezintenden good thing i started IT or else i would have needed to ask you how to navigate in the shell 2013-11-23 20:41:27 Espyo you're the only one who can do scripts on the wiki 2013-11-23 20:41:52 @J there's also a thing in Windows where you can shift-right-click in a directory to show the context menu with an option to open one there 2013-11-23 20:42:18 @J you mean because you don't have the rights to edit the page, or what? 2013-11-23 20:42:41 @J also, 'plan to maybe do it some day' != 'taking care of it' 2013-11-23 20:43:42 Espyo oh yeah, I learned the shift+right click thing some days ago 2013-11-23 20:43:47 Espyo then forgot about it 2013-11-23 20:43:58 Espyo nobody has rights to add scripts except admins 2013-11-23 20:48:58 @J well, I'm not the only admin here 2013-11-23 20:50:06 Espyo you're the only one who's active and knows JS 2013-11-23 20:50:12 Espyo also you talked about it 2013-11-23 20:50:16 Espyo so all of those factors together... 2013-11-23 20:50:51 @J I'm pretty disappointed you haven't already written it and just sent it to me 2013-11-23 20:50:55 @J slacking as usual 2013-11-23 20:51:11 Espyo I'm actually not entirely following your logic 2013-11-23 20:51:12 Espyo on the talk page 2013-11-23 20:51:14 Espyo ok, let's see 2013-11-23 20:51:27 Espyo the script that /hides/ the video executes after the video is loaded 2013-11-23 20:51:30 Espyo that's normal 2013-11-23 20:51:50 Espyo but can't we just set the style to be hidden in the first place? 2013-11-23 20:51:50 Espyo you can do inline CSS in mediawiki text 2013-11-23 20:51:54 Espyo and then the script adds a onclick to unhide it 2013-11-23 20:58:37 <-- Prezintenden (Mibbit@16-98-646-652-aegbi.superkabel.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-23 21:00:09 @J mm, it's possible, but I don't know how the script works 2013-11-23 21:00:11 @J you could try it 2013-11-23 21:03:30 Espyo maybe eventually 2013-11-23 21:19:39 -- AFK-DOS is now known as BetaMaster64 2013-11-23 21:22:35 @J it vaguely works if you do this 2013-11-23 21:22:38 @J 2013-11-23 21:29:50 Espyo ah 2013-11-23 21:29:52 Espyo what's the catch? 2013-11-23 21:33:07 @J the code looks kind of bad, you have to have a header row, and I haven't tested it doesn't actually load it with display:none 2013-11-23 21:37:29 Espyo I see tables with single cells all the time 2013-11-23 21:46:21 Espyo http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/photoshop/7/7/1/216771_v1.jpg I need help, I don't understand this at all 2013-11-23 22:21:42 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 22:32:13 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-23 22:40:27 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-23 22:40:45 @J I mean, you have to write it as HTML, not wiki code 2013-11-23 22:41:31 Espyo oh 2013-11-23 22:41:40 Espyo you can still write tables in wikitext 2013-11-23 22:43:01 @J yes 2013-11-23 22:43:16 @J wait, maybe this is possible using that 2013-11-23 22:45:07 @J for some reason I thought you couldn't style rows without 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-- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-24 20:33:43 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ @PikFan BetaMaster64 Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox] 2013-11-24 20:33:43 -- Channel #pikipedia: 7 nicks (2 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 5 normals) 2013-11-24 20:33:43 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-24 20:33:43 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-24 20:33:43 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-24 20:33:43 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-24 20:35:05 @PikFan . 2013-11-24 20:38:15 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-24 20:38:16 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-24 20:44:10 --> W10 (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-24 20:53:39 --> Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-24 20:53:57 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-24 20:54:04 --> Scr7 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http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-24 21:41:04 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-24 21:41:05 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-24 21:41:05 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-24 21:41:12 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-24 22:55:15 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-24 22:55:27 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-24 22:55:27 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-24 22:55:27 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-24 22:55:27 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster64 Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo W10 Yayer] 2013-11-24 22:55:27 -- Channel #pikipedia: 10 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normals) 2013-11-24 22:55:27 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-24 22:55:27 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-24 22:55:28 -- Mode 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(Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-11-25 04:34:46 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-11-25 12:28:02 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 12:30:33 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 12:30:33 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-25 12:30:38 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-25 12:31:29 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 12:31:30 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-25 16:28:28 Testyo I didn't know Pikipedia had an IRC channel :p 2013-11-25 16:35:01 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-25 16:35:12 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-25 16:38:06 -- SleepW10 is now known as W10 2013-11-25 17:13:09 --> 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2013-11-25 18:18:54 Testyo Very well. I am now in "serious" mode on #Pikipedia. 2013-11-25 18:19:07 Espyo he's not working right because of that whole "the other server is rejecting" bug 2013-11-25 18:19:07 @PikFan oops, forgot channel name 2013-11-25 18:19:15 @PikFan mm 2013-11-25 18:19:37 @PikFan so, Mon-Weds are like school development days or something 2013-11-25 18:19:45 @PikFan and Thurs-Fri is Thanksgiving 2013-11-25 18:20:16 @PikFan oh, in Cookie Clicker, a moment ago 2013-11-25 18:20:31 Espyo I see 2013-11-25 18:20:45 @PikFan I got the Frenzy AND the Clicking Frenzy, so my cookies per click was like ~16,000,000,000,000 2013-11-25 18:21:39 Espyo awesome 2013-11-25 18:22:09 @PikFan right now my goal is to have 33,000,000,000,000,000 in the bank so I can get 100 antimatter condensers and the reverse cyclotrons 2013-11-25 18:22:14 @PikFan all at once 2013-11-25 18:22:21 @PikFan (81 ACs atm) 2013-11-25 18:22:50 Espyo right 2013-11-25 18:23:05 Espyo got my computer back, so I can only continue my Cookie Clicker crusade now 2013-11-25 18:23:13 @PikFan yay 2013-11-25 18:27:12 @PikFan after I get 100 ACs + RC upgrade, I'm going for 240 cursors + Sextillion Fingers upgrade 2013-11-25 18:27:32 @PikFan and to finish buying the cookies 2013-11-25 18:28:00 Espyo right 2013-11-25 18:28:00 @PikFan also only achievement I haven't unlocked is Let's never bake again 2013-11-25 18:28:12 @PikFan do you have that achievement? 2013-11-25 18:28:41 Espyo I have all achievements except for Neverclick and the shadow ones 2013-11-25 18:29:05 @PikFan ._o 2013-11-25 18:29:16 @PikFan so your CpS is +1,000,000,000,000? 2013-11-25 18:29:52 Espyo mhm 2013-11-25 18:30:03 * @PikFan 's jaw drops 2013-11-25 18:30:24 @PikFan but wouldn't that need like +2,500 heavenly chips? 2013-11-25 18:30:45 Espyo not really 2013-11-25 18:30:49 Espyo just patience, I guess 2013-11-25 18:30:53 Espyo unless I'm misremembering 2013-11-25 18:30:54 Espyo give me a few 2013-11-25 18:30:58 @PikFan okay 2013-11-25 18:31:16 Espyo then I'll tell you for sure 2013-11-25 18:35:47 @PikFan imo, they should add achievements for the number of cookie clickes 2013-11-25 18:35:50 @PikFan *clicks 2013-11-25 18:37:21 @PikFan like, 500 clicks, 1,000 clicks, 10,000 clicks, 25,000 clicks, and 50,000 clicks 2013-11-25 18:37:35 @PikFan and a shadow achievement could be 100,000 clicks 2013-11-25 18:37:47 Espyo manual clicks? 2013-11-25 18:37:50 @PikFan mhm 2013-11-25 18:38:17 Espyo don't they have those already? 2013-11-25 18:38:39 @PikFan no 2013-11-25 18:39:20 @PikFan five achievements are for making cookies from clicks, and another five achievements are for the number of cursors owned 2013-11-25 18:40:58 Espyo ah, right 2013-11-25 18:53:29 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: So long everyone!) 2013-11-25 18:55:00 Espyo moving to my laptop then, brb 2013-11-25 18:55:12 @PikFan okay 2013-11-25 19:15:45 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-25 19:15:56 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 19:51:23 -- W10 is now known as W10|AFK 2013-11-25 19:58:51 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 20:12:58 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 20:12:58 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-25 20:14:31 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-25 20:14:47 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 20:14:47 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-25 20:14:55 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-25 20:15:44 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 20:15:44 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-25 20:16:22 @PikFan Testyo 2013-11-25 20:16:30 @PikFan okay, still serious 2013-11-25 20:17:09 Espyo everything should be good now 2013-11-25 20:19:12 -- W10|AFK is now known as W10 2013-11-25 20:21:28 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 20:26:39 @J ...okay, in VLC, if you press R it says 'Random: on' 2013-11-25 20:27:09 Espyo that sounds apt 2013-11-25 20:27:21 @J but what does it do? 2013-11-25 20:27:31 @J in the keybindings, the description is just 'Random' 2013-11-25 20:27:50 @J oh, maybe it's a playlist thing? 2013-11-25 20:28:43 Espyo yeah 2013-11-25 20:28:50 Espyo that's what I thought right away 2013-11-25 20:29:10 @J I see 2013-11-25 20:29:18 @J so you were just laughing at my lack of thinkingness 2013-11-25 20:31:33 Espyo I then thought that you knew that, but knew it by the name "shuffle" 2013-11-25 20:31:38 Espyo but if you want me to laugh, I can 2013-11-25 20:31:43 Espyo throat is kinda broken, but... 2013-11-25 20:32:19 @J I just couldn't think what it could be making random 2013-11-25 20:32:28 @J so it's just a 'make something random' function 2013-11-25 20:32:31 @J which is pretty random 2013-11-25 20:41:47 Espyo randomly shuffle the video's frames 2013-11-25 20:41:57 Espyo but yeah, the idea of VLC with a playlist is kinda weird 2013-11-25 20:43:01 Espyo ok, so fever dreams are an actual thing, and I'm not insane 2013-11-25 20:43:15 Espyo every time I've had a fever caused by this throat infection, I have confusing and stressing dreams 2013-11-25 20:43:22 Espyo normally combining several things that happened that day 2013-11-25 20:43:35 Espyo yesterday, I played a lot of Pikmin 2, to check the kill cap for enemy attacks 2013-11-25 20:43:37 @J yeah, the playlist implementation is pretty poor; I don't use it 2013-11-25 20:43:42 Espyo so my dream involved organizing Pikmin in some way 2013-11-25 20:43:45 Espyo but it was so confusing 2013-11-25 20:43:46 @J not that I listen to music anyway 2013-11-25 20:43:52 Espyo it involved caves, and some secret cult... 2013-11-25 20:44:01 Espyo I use Winamp for anything music-related 2013-11-25 20:44:34 @J hmm, did I tell about the time I was ill and had loads of dreams that involved waking up in my room? 2013-11-25 20:44:48 @J some were really scary because I couldn't move 2013-11-25 20:44:55 @J and they were so realistic 2013-11-25 20:46:01 Espyo I think I vaguely remember that 2013-11-25 20:46:13 @J one of them had a walking forest outside 2013-11-25 20:46:34 @J another turned my desk area into a big window that some guy outside melted/phased through 2013-11-25 20:47:19 Espyo pretty sure I heard the walking forest one 2013-11-25 20:47:23 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: bye, maybe on later) 2013-11-25 20:51:49 @J and now to eat ice cream from the tub 2013-11-25 20:51:51 @J because I can 2013-11-25 20:55:01 Espyo I want to think you mean bathtub 2013-11-25 20:58:18 @J ... 2013-11-25 20:58:22 @J that would be amazing 2013-11-25 20:58:27 @J a whole bathtub of ice cream 2013-11-25 20:58:52 Espyo mhm 2013-11-25 20:58:58 Espyo sweetest death there is 2013-11-25 21:05:10 --> Prezintenden (Mibbit@97-31-835-39-obfze.superkabel.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 21:05:28 Prezintenden so i got the goods but can't get running, huehue 2013-11-25 21:10:29 @J so many interpretations... 2013-11-25 21:14:50 Prezintenden videograbber.i eventually found some drivers on some sketchy website that seem to work but i can't get virtualdub to use the input 2013-11-25 21:17:26 Espyo hmmmm 2013-11-25 21:17:33 Espyo if it's the same thing as me, I can give you my drivers 2013-11-25 21:17:46 Espyo virtualdub is wonderful, but it's hell to get it working the first time 2013-11-25 21:17:50 Espyo and it's not really virtualdub's fault 2013-11-25 21:18:02 Espyo a lot of things just go wrong everywhere when you're setting up recording equipment 2013-11-25 21:20:30 Prezintenden yeah i guess I'll have to fumble around some more later 2013-11-25 22:07:42 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (*.net *.split) 2013-11-25 22:11:56 -- W10 is now known as W10sleep 2013-11-25 22:25:03 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-25 22:25:15 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 22:25:22 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 22:25:22 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-25 22:25:33 Espyo Testyo: 2013-11-25 22:25:36 Espyo good 2013-11-25 23:12:16 --> ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-25 23:12:28 <-- ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-25 23:45:51 <-- Prezintenden (Mibbit@97-31-835-39-obfze.superkabel.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-26 00:21:40 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-11-26 00:43:20 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 01:11:53 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-26 01:11:58 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-26 04:10:25 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-11-26 06:30:28 -- W10sleep is now known as W10school 2013-11-26 12:26:35 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 12:26:35 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-26 12:32:08 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 14:46:35 -- W10school is now known as W10 2013-11-26 18:06:02 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 19:28:31 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 19:28:31 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-26 19:29:28 @PikFan . 2013-11-26 19:29:41 @PikFan so somehow the computer was left on all night 2013-11-26 19:29:56 @PikFan with Cookie Clicker running 2013-11-26 19:30:18 @PikFan ...and when I popped the wrinklers they each gave ~3,000,000,000,000,000 cookies 2013-11-26 19:33:02 Espyo heh, "somehow" 2013-11-26 19:33:20 Espyo yeah, that's around how many cookies they give me when I pop them 2013-11-26 19:33:29 Espyo except I have to wait ~9 hours, not a whole day+night 2013-11-26 19:33:52 @PikFan no, that was also around 9 hours 2013-11-26 19:33:58 Espyo oh 2013-11-26 19:33:58 Espyo hm 2013-11-26 19:34:05 @PikFan ...but that's not possible 2013-11-26 19:34:18 @PikFan because we have different CpS 2013-11-26 19:34:30 @PikFan maybe my memory's fuzzy 2013-11-26 19:35:33 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 19:35:50 @PikFan oh hi Los_Plagas 2013-11-26 19:35:55 Los_Plagas Hey. 2013-11-26 19:36:01 Espyo hi 2013-11-26 19:36:05 @J . 2013-11-26 19:36:17 Los_Plagas . . . 2013-11-26 19:36:18 @PikFan so I'm glad that this... what would you call it... is over 2013-11-26 19:36:21 @PikFan also hi J 2013-11-26 19:36:29 Los_Plagas This abomination is over, yes 2013-11-26 19:36:31 @PikFan (. means hi) 2013-11-26 19:36:48 Los_Plagas Though as I mentioned (yes, I know what . Stands for) 2013-11-26 19:36:55 @PikFan okay 2013-11-26 19:37:16 Los_Plagas He kind of needed to copy of us 2013-11-26 19:37:18 @PikFan Espyo: I'm so close to 200,000,000,000,000,000 2013-11-26 19:37:22 Los_Plagas Because with the rewrite 2013-11-26 19:37:25 Los_Plagas His wiki sucks 2013-11-26 19:37:39 Los_Plagas Let me guess PikFan. Cookie clicker again? 2013-11-26 19:37:44 Espyo ...I have 44,000,000,000,000,000 2013-11-26 19:37:56 Espyo yeah, he's a trainwreck, no need to worry 2013-11-26 19:38:53 @PikFan Espyo, is that the total or the bank? 2013-11-26 19:39:00 @PikFan Los_Plagas: yes, Cookie Clicker 2013-11-26 19:39:30 Espyo no, what I have now 2013-11-26 19:39:48 Espyo then again I did spend something like that amount some days ago 2013-11-26 19:40:04 @PikFan oh, another clarification 2013-11-26 19:40:23 @PikFan is that the cookies for this game or the all time cookies 2013-11-26 19:40:31 Los_Plagas PikFan, you lured Espyo in too? 2013-11-26 19:40:37 @PikFan no 2013-11-26 19:40:44 @PikFan he started playing before me 2013-11-26 19:40:51 Los_Plagas I have so many that my cookie count is almost entirely /letters/ 2013-11-26 19:41:08 @PikFan ...which is odd because I thought you had more than that, Espyo 2013-11-26 19:41:14 Espyo yeah... 2013-11-26 19:41:19 Espyo well, I didn't play the past week 2013-11-26 19:41:41 @PikFan right, because of your computer situation 2013-11-26 19:41:45 @PikFan ...OH 2013-11-26 19:41:58 @PikFan it erased your cookies? 2013-11-26 19:42:03 Espyo no no 2013-11-26 19:42:06 Espyo I used a different computer 2013-11-26 19:42:08 Espyo so I couldn't play 2013-11-26 19:42:15 @PikFan oh 2013-11-26 19:42:15 Espyo unless I manually carried the save file back and forth 2013-11-26 19:42:16 Espyo so meh 2013-11-26 19:42:40 Espyo ...ok, Pikmin 2 enemies are very complex 2013-11-26 19:42:52 Espyo I'm reading through the game files, and they have tons of parameters 2013-11-26 19:42:53 @PikFan max deaths? 2013-11-26 19:42:57 Espyo nope 2013-11-26 19:43:03 @PikFan oh 2013-11-26 19:45:43 Espyo aww, I wanted to play with these values 2013-11-26 19:45:52 Espyo like set a Bulborb's speed to 40000 or something 2013-11-26 19:45:55 Espyo so he'd teleport everywhere 2013-11-26 19:46:03 Espyo but editing GCN files is confusing 2013-11-26 19:46:08 Espyo last time I checked, anyway 2013-11-26 19:46:22 Los_Plagas I wonder if a Wii version would be easier to adjust 2013-11-26 19:46:40 Espyo hmm 2013-11-26 19:46:42 Espyo not necessarily 2013-11-26 19:46:48 Espyo Dolphin emulates both GCN and Wii just fine 2013-11-26 19:46:59 Espyo same difficulty to open both kinds of files 2013-11-26 19:47:16 Espyo hm, the problem mostly lies with packing .szs and .arc files 2013-11-26 19:49:38 Los_Plagas If I could do that, then I personally would adjust it so there could be a lot more Pikmin out of the Onion at once, but that might cause major lag 2013-11-26 19:49:51 Espyo they even have data for how strong their shakes are 2013-11-26 19:50:02 Espyo (shakes = when they shake Pikmin off) 2013-11-26 19:50:10 Los_Plagas Wow. 2013-11-26 19:50:16 Espyo I think that particular value might be hardcoded, Los_Plagas 2013-11-26 19:50:20 Espyo not in a config file 2013-11-26 19:50:23 Los_Plagas Most likely 2013-11-26 19:50:32 Los_Plagas Since it's quite important through the game 2013-11-26 19:50:37 Espyo yeah 2013-11-26 19:50:42 Espyo and it's already been established since Pikmin 1 2013-11-26 19:50:46 Espyo so no point in making it changeable 2013-11-26 19:51:12 Los_Plagas If you were advanced enough to make a 3D model 2013-11-26 19:51:26 Los_Plagas Could you potentially code an entirely new enemy into the game? 2013-11-26 19:55:11 Espyo not realistically 2013-11-26 19:55:23 Espyo not for now, at least 2013-11-26 19:55:31 Espyo we'd have to tell several parts of the game about the new enemy 2013-11-26 19:55:42 Espyo the Piklopedia (or the exclusion of the enemy on the Piklopedia) 2013-11-26 19:55:48 Espyo where it appears in the levels 2013-11-26 19:55:55 Espyo and countless other places we don't know off 2013-11-26 19:56:16 Espyo also we still don't know how to pack .szs and .arc and all that 2013-11-26 19:56:28 Espyo so... I mean, it could be possible, the developers had to do it, duh 2013-11-26 19:56:37 Los_Plagas Well of course 2013-11-26 19:56:38 Espyo but with the existing knowledge atm, it's far from being possible 2013-11-26 19:56:54 Espyo maybe it's a lot easier in Pikmin 3, once the Wii U game format is cracked 2013-11-26 19:57:02 Espyo I mean, people import entirely new characters into Brawl all the time 2013-11-26 19:57:18 Espyo err... but they don't ADD them to the game, they replace them with existing characters 2013-11-26 19:57:31 Los_Plagas True. 2013-11-26 19:57:37 Los_Plagas Could you do that . 2013-11-26 19:57:51 Espyo for Brawl? there's tons I don't know about Brawl hacking 2013-11-26 19:57:59 Los_Plagas For Pikmin 2013-11-26 20:00:38 Los_Plagas I mean,would it be possible with all the knowledge? 2013-11-26 20:00:54 Los_Plagas Is it locked down, or would it be entirely possible if we knew how to code it? 2013-11-26 20:02:30 Espyo if we knew how, it'd be possible, yeah 2013-11-26 20:02:59 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-26 20:03:12 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 20:04:06 Los_Plagas Would your engine attempt to simulate the complexity of the games? 2013-11-26 20:06:27 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-26 20:13:17 Espyo guess he's not that interested 2013-11-26 20:14:01 @PikFan heh 2013-11-26 20:17:22 @J [19:56:16] Espyo also we still don't know how to pack .szs and .arc and all that 2013-11-26 20:17:24 @J we don't? 2013-11-26 20:17:30 Espyo pretty sure we don't... 2013-11-26 20:17:38 @J there's spec for it, I thought 2013-11-26 20:18:00 Espyo hm 2013-11-26 20:18:10 Espyo well, nobody made a packer, that's for sure 2013-11-26 20:18:14 Espyo or if they did, it's well hidden 2013-11-26 20:18:19 Espyo or not even released 2013-11-26 20:18:39 @J yeah, last time we talked about this, I started writing a rarc creator, then ended up with an extractor 2013-11-26 20:18:45 @J and never did the creator part 2013-11-26 20:19:35 Espyo heh 2013-11-26 20:19:38 Espyo don't remember that 2013-11-26 20:20:00 Espyo ok, so I Google Translate'd the parameters on the enemy files 2013-11-26 20:20:05 Espyo some are obvious, but most aren't 2013-11-26 20:20:07 Espyo need suggestions 2013-11-26 20:20:18 Espyo "Hits around the Pikmin"? 2013-11-26 20:20:34 Espyo this parameter is not near any other parameter that sounds related 2013-11-26 20:20:49 Espyo "Shock attack possible range" 2013-11-26 20:20:58 Espyo found before "Shock attack possible angle of attack" 2013-11-26 20:21:12 Espyo "Warning time", found before the petrification period 2013-11-26 20:21:22 @J 'possible' sounds like a mistranslation there 2013-11-26 20:21:35 @J probably 'maximum' 'base' or something 2013-11-26 20:21:35 Espyo "Hip drop damage", found after the petrification period, and before the Purple Pikmin stomp stun chance 2013-11-26 20:21:39 @J *maximum or base 2013-11-26 20:21:42 Espyo right, I figured 2013-11-26 20:21:43 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: back later) 2013-11-26 20:21:48 Espyo still doesn't help a huge lot 2013-11-26 20:21:56 @J stun damage? 2013-11-26 20:22:18 Espyo don't think stunning causes damage per se 2013-11-26 20:22:23 Espyo you can stun without hitting the enemy directly 2013-11-26 20:22:56 @J landing damage of purples 2013-11-26 20:23:05 Espyo hmm 2013-11-26 20:23:35 Espyo "Blow shake off *", in which the asterisk is A, 1, B, 2, C, 3 or D 2013-11-26 20:23:43 Espyo sounds like something multiplayer-related, but... 2013-11-26 20:26:13 Espyo hm, dweevils have an attribute called "treasure attack" 2013-11-26 20:26:52 Espyo it's not the treasure's "HP" 2013-11-26 20:26:57 Espyo that's another attribute 2013-11-26 20:29:21 @J something to do with when they try to pick up a treasure? 2013-11-26 20:30:30 Espyo maybe 2013-11-26 21:08:06 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-26 21:08:17 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 21:08:17 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-26 21:08:17 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-26 21:08:17 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster64 Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo W10] 2013-11-26 21:08:17 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (1 op, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-11-26 21:08:17 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-26 21:08:17 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-26 21:08:18 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-26 21:08:18 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-26 22:20:41 -- W10 is now known as W10sleep 2013-11-26 22:53:47 Espyo uh 2013-11-26 22:53:52 Espyo I think it worked just right the first time 2013-11-26 22:54:06 Espyo I did a C++ program to go through the whole folder and return a wikitext list with all the enemy info 2013-11-26 22:54:20 Espyo C++ is horrible at fetching filesystem info 2013-11-26 22:54:36 Espyo and it looks like the entire program worked fine the first time 2013-11-26 23:05:53 @J in Python: for fn in os.listdir(dir): with open(fn) as f: do_stuff(f.read()) 2013-11-26 23:06:36 @J in Bash: for f in dir/*; cat "$f" | do_stuff; done 2013-11-26 23:09:21 Espyo yep 2013-11-26 23:09:25 Espyo in C++... 2013-11-26 23:10:02 Espyo http://pastebin.com/VWBGQew3 2013-11-26 23:10:19 Espyo you can omit the check to add to the list if it's a folder or not, but that still only saves 2 lines 2013-11-26 23:13:02 @J in Python: os.isdir(fn) 2013-11-26 23:13:23 @J I think it's [ -d "$f" ] in Bash, but I'd have to check 2013-11-26 23:13:31 @J so yeah, when are you learning another language? 2013-11-26 23:13:42 Espyo when I have time 2013-11-26 23:16:05 @J hey, you know JavaScript, right? 2013-11-26 23:16:16 @J if you learn Node.js, this stuff wouldn't be so bad in that 2013-11-26 23:17:15 @J I think it's: fs.readDir(dir, function (err, fns) { _.each(fns, doStuff) }) 2013-11-26 23:17:27 @J that's using _ as Underscore.js, which is nice 2013-11-26 23:17:33 Espyo I do 2013-11-26 23:17:43 Espyo ...Javascript can access folders now? 2013-11-26 23:17:55 @J JavaScript isn't just a browser language 2013-11-26 23:18:05 @J you just need some libraries, which Node provides 2013-11-26 23:18:11 Espyo hmmmm 2013-11-26 23:18:20 @J it also has a module system and package manager with online repository 2013-11-26 23:18:37 Espyo well, that's new to me 2013-11-26 23:18:48 @J it's mostly used for servers because of the focus on asynchronous I/O 2013-11-26 23:19:12 @J that is, it lets you do lots of things in a single thread at once, making it very lightweight 2013-11-26 23:19:41 Espyo shouldn't it be multiple threads? 2013-11-26 23:20:23 @J no, a single thread 2013-11-26 23:20:29 @J that's what makes it lightweight 2013-11-26 23:20:54 @J you do things while waiting for I/O 2013-11-26 23:21:22 Espyo asynch I/O in a single thread? 2013-11-26 23:21:26 @J like JavaScript's setTimeout is asynchronous and runs in the same thread 2013-11-26 23:21:27 @J yes 2013-11-26 23:22:00 @J it just extends that idea, and it works very well along with JS's first class lambdas 2013-11-26 23:22:54 Espyo ah 2013-11-26 23:22:58 Espyo awesome 2013-11-26 23:23:11 Espyo ...aww, don't tell me mediawiki doesn't allow huge tables to be sortable 2013-11-26 23:23:29 Espyo I decided to make this program create a mediawiki table so I could sort it on the wiki 2013-11-26 23:23:36 Espyo instead of writing more things to sort 2013-11-26 23:23:51 Espyo but the table isn't being sorted, even though it's a "wikitable sortable" class table 2013-11-26 23:24:49 @J maybe it's just loading 2013-11-26 23:24:50 Espyo there's a mediawiki glitch 2013-11-26 23:24:59 Espyo in which if a line on a table is like: 2013-11-26 23:25:11 Espyo !Red Bulborb || Forest of Hope 2013-11-26 23:25:20 Espyo the "Forest of Hope" cell will also be considered a header cell 2013-11-26 23:25:28 @J not sure that's a glitch 2013-11-26 23:25:35 Espyo don't really know if it's a glitch, but it's not intuitive 2013-11-26 23:25:36 @J it's part of the syntax 2013-11-26 23:25:46 @J well, it's a header row, right? 2013-11-26 23:25:48 Espyo if I want it so that the other cell isn't a header, I need to break a line 2013-11-26 23:25:50 @J makes sense 2013-11-26 23:25:53 Espyo hmm, I suppose 2013-11-26 23:26:31 @J for the sorting, try another wiki? 2013-11-26 23:26:38 Espyo ah, done 2013-11-26 23:26:51 Espyo it was because the rows were being considered header rows 2013-11-26 23:26:54 Espyo eesh, picky 2013-11-26 23:27:04 Espyo ok, let's see what kind of things I can find 2013-11-26 23:27:39 Espyo http://pastebin.com/cx7Dhvi9 because you probably want to find stuff as well 2013-11-26 23:28:16 Espyo panmodoki has the lowest amount of health... 2013-11-26 23:28:30 Espyo 1.0... gotta find out what panmodoki is 2013-11-26 23:28:34 Espyo I think it's the Breadbug 2013-11-26 23:28:50 Espyo yep 2013-11-26 23:29:00 Espyo how weird, 1.0 HP? 2013-11-26 23:30:33 Espyo "Per with map" makes no sense sorted 2013-11-26 23:30:39 Espyo can't find any correlation with anything 2013-11-26 23:32:14 Espyo Dwarfs have the highest damage scales 2013-11-26 23:32:24 Espyo I think those are how much the model scales when being hit 2013-11-26 23:32:40 Espyo it can't be a multiplier, because 300x is ridiculous 2013-11-26 23:33:22 @J um... 2013-11-26 23:33:31 @J http://sprunge.us/VBAA 2013-11-26 23:33:38 @J did this a few years ago 2013-11-26 23:33:51 Espyo ... 2013-11-26 23:34:38 Espyo ok, we should put all this info to use though 2013-11-26 23:35:12 @J http://sprunge.us/hFAU 2013-11-26 23:35:18 @J also a thing, but not as detailed 2013-11-26 23:35:44 Espyo I'll need that to double-check the Treasure Hoard icons 2013-11-26 23:35:47 Espyo because I know they're wrong 2013-11-26 23:38:05 @J I may as well send you the whole thing while I'm looking at it 2013-11-26 23:38:12 @J not sure if there's anything else useful though 2013-11-26 23:38:51 Espyo there's more? 2013-11-26 23:38:53 @J http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/P2%20disk%20data.zip 2013-11-26 23:39:02 @J not data, just documentation on some file formats 2013-11-26 23:39:06 @J and not much of it 2013-11-26 23:39:47 Espyo right 2013-11-26 23:40:16 @J oh, there is another thing 2013-11-26 23:40:19 @J for the caves 2013-11-26 23:40:42 @J http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/P2data.zip 2013-11-26 23:40:46 @J not sure what's in there 2013-11-26 23:44:54 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-26 23:45:36 --> J_ (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 23:45:36 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-26 23:45:36 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-26 23:45:36 -- 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23:46:02 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-26 23:46:09 J_ ...no J? 2013-11-26 23:46:27 Espyo there's a J 2013-11-26 23:46:43 <-- J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-11-26 23:47:16 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-26 23:47:16 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-26 23:47:16 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-26 23:47:16 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster64 Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo W10sleep] 2013-11-26 23:47:16 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-11-26 23:47:16 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-26 23:47:16 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-26 23:47:16 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-26 23:47:16 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-26 23:47:21 @J there 2013-11-26 23:47:58 @J anyway, I should go now 2013-11-26 23:48:03 @J bye 2013-11-26 23:48:50 @J BTW, looks like that script in the last zip takes filenames as arguments to generate nicer cave data files from 2013-11-26 23:52:26 Espyo bye 2013-11-26 23:52:32 Espyo ah 2013-11-27 01:29:42 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-11-27 01:39:58 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-27 01:40:01 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-27 07:05:10 -- W10sleep is now known as W10school 2013-11-27 08:21:56 <-- Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: nwehehehe) 2013-11-27 11:23:30 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 11:23:30 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-27 11:26:47 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 12:22:32 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-27 12:23:49 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-27 13:23:11 --> Espyo (Mibbit@kijm55.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 14:35:40 -- W10school is now known as W10 2013-11-27 14:38:37 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@kijm55.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-27 14:49:41 --> Espyo (Mibbit@mmrh82.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 15:02:08 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@mmrh82.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-27 15:57:20 --> NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 15:57:24 <-- NintendoFan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-27 17:12:21 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 17:12:21 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-27 17:16:19 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 19:28:26 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-27 19:28:39 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 19:28:39 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-27 19:28:39 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-27 19:28:39 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo W10] 2013-11-27 19:28:39 -- Channel #pikipedia: 7 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 6 normals) 2013-11-27 19:28:39 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-27 19:28:39 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-27 19:28:40 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-27 19:28:40 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-27 20:07:58 @J https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRKJJLbNUy4 2013-11-27 20:08:02 @J so this is really weird 2013-11-27 20:12:30 --> ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 20:12:34 <-- ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-27 20:16:12 Espyo ...where to begin 2013-11-27 20:16:24 Espyo ok, so for one thing, direct company attacks are a thing now? 2013-11-27 20:16:47 Espyo also, ms is complaining that the Chromebook is "always online" 2013-11-27 20:16:58 Espyo when the original plans for the XBone were for it to be... always online 2013-11-27 20:17:01 Espyo I cannot even 2013-11-27 20:57:55 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 20:57:55 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-27 21:03:15 @J so did you learn anything from the Pikmin 2 data yet? 2013-11-27 21:03:52 @PikFan hi J 2013-11-27 21:04:18 @J hey 2013-11-27 21:09:28 Espyo haven't checked it yet 2013-11-27 21:09:49 Espyo uh, but I know there are 4 tiers of Purple Pikmin stun vulnerability 2013-11-27 21:09:50 Espyo IIRC 2013-11-27 21:10:02 Espyo there's 0, 0.01, 0.1 and 0.3 2013-11-27 21:10:12 Espyo some enemies, like the Breadbugs, can't be stunned 2013-11-27 21:10:25 Espyo others are rarely stunned, I think it's only the Pileated Snagret 2013-11-27 21:10:35 Espyo then others are commonly or less commonly stunned 2013-11-27 21:10:38 Espyo so that info should go somehwere 2013-11-27 21:10:40 Espyo *somewhere 2013-11-27 21:10:55 Espyo I'm /really/ thinking about creating a Pikmin 2 data card to add to articles 2013-11-27 21:11:20 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-11-27 21:11:33 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 21:11:53 @PikFan I think the Emperor Bulblax can be stunned, too 2013-11-27 21:12:09 Espyo http://carmageddon.wikia.com/wiki/Explosive_Pedestrians#Technical_data like this 2013-11-27 21:12:15 Espyo I think it can, yes 2013-11-27 21:12:53 Espyo we could add that sort of loose info — Purple stun chance, territory radius, etc. 2013-11-27 21:14:16 --> Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 21:19:34 @PikFan it must be insane luck today or something, but 2013-11-27 21:19:51 @PikFan in Cookie Clicker I've gotten the Elder Frenzy 3 times 2013-11-27 21:20:06 @PikFan within a 20 minute period 2013-11-27 21:22:26 @PikFan ...and I just got it again 2013-11-27 21:29:46 Espyo nice 2013-11-27 21:30:04 Espyo but Cookie Chain ends up giving more profit in the end, I think 2013-11-27 21:48:55 @J so close to being able to do this crazy juggling thing 2013-11-27 21:49:09 @J it's basically crossing your arms in alternate directions while juggling 2013-11-27 21:59:12 @J ah, I found it 2013-11-27 21:59:14 @J https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mills_Mess 2013-11-27 22:01:54 Espyo that gif made me lost it 2013-11-27 22:02:19 Espyo http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UPdAA-qTuxM/USdSNv94J3I/AAAAAAAAJS4/vc_v2yvCEKs/s400/efnxjr.gif 2013-11-27 22:02:23 Espyo probably because of that 2013-11-27 22:06:41 @J that looks like that game by Bennet Foddy 2013-11-27 22:06:46 @J uh, CLOP 2013-11-27 22:25:52 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-27 22:26:05 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 22:26:05 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-27 22:26:05 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-27 22:26:05 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ @PikFan Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo W10] 2013-11-27 22:26:05 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (2 ops, 0 voices, 7 normals) 2013-11-27 22:26:05 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-27 22:26:05 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-27 22:26:06 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-27 22:26:07 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-27 22:48:41 Espyo http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/git_commit.png 2013-11-27 22:48:49 Espyo also I said "yeah" at the CLOP comment 2013-11-27 22:49:44 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-11-27 22:49:59 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 22:51:28 @J that sounds about right 2013-11-27 22:53:02 @J http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/11/after-15-years-of-llama-whipping-aol-shuts-down-winamp-for-good/ 2013-11-27 22:53:05 @J did you hear of this? 2013-11-27 22:54:22 @J https://github.com/ikn/config-stuff/commits/master 2013-11-27 22:54:27 @J there are some fairly vague ones there 2013-11-27 22:55:49 @J https://github.com/ikn/ipnep/commit/7863aab554933da939252e6b769d6131d655daab 2013-11-27 22:56:08 Espyo yeah, I've been mourning about Winamp for a week now 2013-11-27 22:56:23 Espyo there are petitions already to make it open-source 2013-11-27 22:56:34 Espyo well, I'm already used to Winamp rarely being updated, so it doesn't bother me much 2013-11-27 22:56:38 Espyo but it still upsets me greatly 2013-11-27 22:56:52 @J hmm, something weird happened and I couldn't send anything for the last minute 2013-11-27 22:56:58 @J ............ was meant to follow that last link 2013-11-27 22:57:10 Espyo that has "hacky" written in it, in Arial size 720 2013-11-27 22:58:01 @J I mean, I added a comment 2013-11-27 22:58:03 @J so weird 2013-11-27 22:58:17 Espyo huh? 2013-11-27 22:58:23 Espyo you duped a line and added a comment 2013-11-27 22:58:48 @J oh, I duplicated it? 2013-11-27 22:59:05 @J thought the first was removed for some reason 2013-11-27 22:59:13 @J yes, that makes a little more sense 2013-11-27 22:59:47 @J I think 'things' is my most frequent commit message by far 2013-11-27 23:00:14 @J https://github.com/ikn/apologise/commits/master 2013-11-27 23:00:17 @J first 3 commits 2013-11-27 23:00:39 @J https://github.com/ikn/spaaace/commits/master?page=2 2013-11-27 23:00:43 @J okay, this one's pretty ba 2013-11-27 23:00:43 @J d 2013-11-27 23:00:54 Espyo yep 2013-11-27 23:06:37 -- W10 is now known as W10sleep 2013-11-27 23:24:19 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-11-27 23:24:39 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-27 23:24:39 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-27 23:33:02 Espyo ...I doubt searching "english sounding word generation algorithm" is gonna give me what I want 2013-11-28 00:07:47 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-11-28 00:08:22 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:08:23 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-28 00:11:20 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-28 00:11:32 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:11:32 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-28 00:12:02 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-28 00:12:22 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:12:22 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-28 00:14:54 Espyo YES 2013-11-28 00:14:58 Espyo I have achieved Nirvana 2013-11-28 00:15:03 Espyo so basically I created a new feature for Testyo 2013-11-28 00:15:06 Espyo Testyo: unserious #Pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:15:06 Testyo I am no longer in serious mode on #Pikipedia; I can do funny random things again! 2013-11-28 00:15:09 Espyo Testyo: create a word 2013-11-28 00:15:09 Testyo Krozye. 2013-11-28 00:15:18 Espyo the algorithm I came up with is good enough 2013-11-28 00:15:19 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-28 00:15:23 Espyo but that's not important 2013-11-28 00:15:28 Espyo one of the words he generated... 2013-11-28 00:15:34 Espyo was "titwifi" 2013-11-28 00:15:39 Espyo that is the best word in the world 2013-11-28 00:16:21 --> BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:18:09 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-11-28 00:19:29 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:19:30 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-28 00:31:42 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-28 00:40:15 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-11-28 00:40:31 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:40:32 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-28 00:45:43 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-11-28 00:48:35 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:48:35 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-28 00:49:03 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-11-28 00:49:40 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 00:49:40 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-28 01:21:24 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-11-28 01:21:42 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-11-28 04:09:16 <-- BetaMaster64 (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-11-28 07:11:48 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 09:21:18 -- W10sleep is now known as W10away 2013-11-28 10:39:30 --> Espyo (Mibbit@oqui15.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 12:20:29 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@oqui15.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-28 12:52:22 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has 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18:10:26 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-28 18:10:26 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-28 18:10:26 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles RingtailedFox W10] 2013-11-28 18:10:26 -- Channel #pikipedia: 8 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 7 normals) 2013-11-28 18:10:27 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-28 18:10:27 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-28 18:10:28 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-28 18:10:28 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-28 19:19:15 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 19:19:15 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-28 19:58:45 @J http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/ 2013-11-28 19:59:03 Espyo that reminds me 2013-11-28 19:59:10 Espyo there's a website that turns any page into ghetto 2013-11-28 19:59:58 Espyo http://www.gizoogle.net/ 2013-11-28 20:00:18 Espyo it actually Snoop Doggifies them 2013-11-28 20:08:41 -- W10 is now known as W10away 2013-11-28 20:40:56 -- W10away is now known as W10 2013-11-28 21:08:17 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-28 21:08:28 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 21:08:28 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-28 21:08:28 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-28 21:08:28 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo W10] 2013-11-28 21:08:28 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-11-28 21:08:28 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-28 21:08:28 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-28 21:08:30 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-28 21:08:30 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-28 21:28:39 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-11-28 21:28:50 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-28 21:28:50 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-11-28 21:28:50 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-11-28 21:28:50 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo W10] 2013-11-28 21:28:50 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-11-28 21:28:50 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-11-28 21:28:50 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-11-28 21:28:52 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-11-28 21:28:52 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-11-28 21:43:40 @J okay, I think I managed 12 catches on the crazy juggling thing once 2013-11-28 21:44:13 @J but the inaccuracies get ridiculous and I end up with scrunched up arms and twisted legs every time 2013-11-28 21:47:53 Espyo of course 2013-11-28 21:48:01 Espyo that's what I imagined the gif on the wikipedia page to end up as 2013-11-28 21:48:24 Espyo on an unrelated note: it's incredibly hard getting into the Submerged Castle 2013-11-28 21:50:01 @J ? 2013-11-28 21:50:18 Espyo the Submerged Castle is all the way up there on the Perplexing Pool 2013-11-28 21:50:25 Espyo I /just/ want to gather 100 Blues and go there 2013-11-28 21:50:26 Espyo but nope 2013-11-28 21:50:35 Espyo Shearwigs, Bulbears, Snitchbugs 2013-11-28 21:50:39 Espyo nothing can EVER leave me alone 2013-11-28 21:50:42 @J oh, right 2013-11-28 21:54:42 Espyo and now I wait for the Waterwraith 2013-11-28 21:57:58 Miles ...Why aren't you going left by where the electric gate was 2013-11-28 21:58:16 Espyo I still get greeted with the Bulbear 2013-11-28 21:58:26 Miles 1 out of the 3 things you're complaining about 2013-11-28 21:58:27 Espyo also there are Crawmads there 2013-11-28 21:58:34 Espyo but yeah, that is the path I did eventually take 2013-11-28 21:58:54 Espyo couldn't really throw all 100 blues over to the slanted platform, enemies kept pressuring me 2013-11-28 22:27:10 Espyo ...huh 2013-11-28 22:27:13 Espyo there really /is/ one 2013-11-28 22:27:25 Espyo there's a Cloaking Burrow-nit under the ground in Pikmin 2's title screen 2013-11-28 22:27:34 Espyo I think it only appears on certain seasons 2013-11-28 22:39:04 @J I'm sure I've seen that before 2013-11-28 22:43:18 Espyo I pointed out the place I saw it from on the todo 2013-11-28 22:43:43 Espyo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpqNoutP38U I think I linked you to it before adding it to the todo though 2013-11-28 22:43:45 Espyo (0:45) 2013-11-28 22:48:59 -- W10 is now known as W10sleep 2013-11-28 22:52:59 Espyo ...Pikmin 2 is freezing when the it tells me it's saving 2013-11-28 22:53:05 Espyo on Dolphin, luckily 2013-11-28 22:53:14 Espyo but still, I can't get into the Hole of Heroes this way 2013-11-28 22:53:20 Espyo and I happen to really need to 2013-11-28 23:11:40 Espyo hmm, Dolphin 4.0 works 2013-11-28 23:42:18 Espyo phew, did it 2013-11-28 23:42:33 Espyo I just confirmed that the Raging Long Legs can squash your entire army in a single stomp 2013-11-28 23:46:16 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by BetaMaster64))) 2013-11-28 23:47:02 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-29 00:37:56 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-29 00:38:12 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-29 02:39:53 --> Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-29 02:43:47 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-29 02:44:57 <-- Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-29 03:52:31 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-29 04:12:27 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-11-29 10:54:08 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-29 10:54:08 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-29 11:01:06 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-29 16:33:36 -- W10sleep is now known as W10 2013-11-29 17:06:26 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-29 19:07:45 @J beep 2013-11-29 19:08:03 @J you expected Dolphin 4 not to work? 2013-11-29 19:08:09 @J *tests* 2013-11-29 19:08:17 @J ooh, it looks very different 2013-11-29 19:08:59 @J actually, I think it's just a new icon set 2013-11-29 19:09:04 @J can't tell any other difference 2013-11-29 19:10:39 @J I feel so lazy every time I see you push some commits to GitHub 2013-11-29 19:10:48 @J it lasts for about 30s, then I go back to procrastinating 2013-11-29 19:35:37 Espyo last time I checked 4.0, it lagged horribly, I think 2013-11-29 19:35:46 Espyo so I abandoned all hope in it and continued using 3.X 2013-11-29 19:36:02 Espyo but yesterday I switched the config on 4.0 to DX9 instead of DX11 2013-11-29 19:36:08 Espyo and it ran like the previous version of Dolphin 2013-11-29 19:36:12 Espyo so I guess that was the problem I had 2013-11-29 19:36:31 Espyo @commits: happens to me as well 2013-11-29 19:58:53 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-29 19:58:53 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-29 19:59:34 @PikFan . 2013-11-29 19:59:44 Espyo hey 2013-11-29 20:00:20 @PikFan so I'm inching closer to my goal of tripling the number of Heavenly Chips I have 2013-11-29 20:00:33 @PikFan I have 359 HCs atm 2013-11-29 20:01:40 Espyo that's quite a lot 2013-11-29 20:01:46 Espyo in fact, I haven't checked if I can reset yet 2013-11-29 20:01:54 @PikFan mm 2013-11-29 20:02:18 @PikFan I hope I can get to 2,000 HCs so I can buy the Grease's Cups 2013-11-29 20:02:37 Espyo I can end up with 1004 2013-11-29 20:03:28 @PikFan I'll get 935 2013-11-29 20:03:52 @PikFan but I need 1,064 2013-11-29 20:05:11 @PikFan I've forfeited 64,666,843,151,060,990 cookies, so I need 501,913,156,848,939,000 cookies to get 1064 HCs 2013-11-29 20:05:25 Espyo right 2013-11-29 20:05:50 @PikFan in this game I've baked 373,549,874,189,429,250, so about 125,000,000,000,000,000 more cookies 2013-11-29 20:06:32 @PikFan hmm 2013-11-29 20:06:47 @PikFan for some reason I still haven't unlocked the seventh Halloween cookie 2013-11-29 20:06:56 @PikFan even though I've popped 399 wrinklers 2013-11-29 20:07:12 Espyo just luck luck luck 2013-11-29 20:07:26 @PikFan bad luck maybe 2013-11-29 20:08:12 Espyo yep 2013-11-29 20:15:07 @J Espyo: ...yeah, no way your laptop supports DX11 2013-11-29 20:15:11 @J weird that that would be the default 2013-11-29 20:15:22 Espyo DX9 is deprecated on 4.0 2013-11-29 20:15:29 @J fun 2013-11-29 20:16:55 @J [19:36:31] Espyo @commits: happens to me as well 2013-11-29 20:17:04 @J wait, you see your own commits and then feel lazy? 2013-11-29 20:17:14 Espyo on the very rare occasions I see others' commits 2013-11-29 20:17:30 @J that does make more sense 2013-11-29 20:17:42 Espyo yes 2013-11-29 21:02:07 @J http://spelunkyworld.com/ - look at that and tell me what you click to buy it 2013-11-29 21:02:24 @J because it took me a good while to work it out 2013-11-29 21:24:01 @PikFan finally 2013-11-29 21:24:10 @PikFan the bat cookies were unlocked 2013-11-29 21:24:20 @PikFan at 410 wrinklers 2013-11-29 21:36:50 Espyo finally 2013-11-29 21:37:26 Espyo well, now that I knew I had to search slightly outside the box, I found it fairly quickly 2013-11-29 21:37:38 Espyo but it's not too hard 2013-11-29 21:38:16 @J it's horrible design 2013-11-29 21:38:38 Espyo yep 2013-11-29 21:39:13 Espyo ... 2013-11-29 21:39:26 Espyo so before dinner, I was listening to a playlist, 3 hours long 2013-11-29 21:39:34 Espyo I pause it to go dine 2013-11-29 21:39:37 Espyo I came back, and hit play 2013-11-29 21:39:40 Espyo it continues where it left off 2013-11-29 21:39:45 Espyo for 5 seconds and then stops 2013-11-29 21:39:53 Espyo that's because I only had 5 seconds of the playlist left 2013-11-29 21:44:51 @J nice 2013-11-29 22:11:46 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-29 22:12:19 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-29 22:41:20 @J 22:41:10 up 54 days, 7:59, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.02, 0.05 2013-11-29 22:41:32 @J that's quite a while this has been running now 2013-11-29 22:42:54 Espyo yeah 2013-11-29 22:43:03 @J so Escape Goat's map files have the extension 'maaap' 2013-11-29 22:43:17 Espyo ................they should 2013-11-29 22:51:12 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: bye) 2013-11-29 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(Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-30 01:06:56 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-11-30 01:09:08 -- W10 is now known as W10sleep 2013-11-30 01:52:26 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 01:52:29 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-30 02:29:03 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 08:33:27 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-11-30 11:21:50 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 11:21:50 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-11-30 11:31:16 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 12:25:24 <-- W10sleep (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has quit 2013-11-30 12:31:41 --> Cactmas (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 13:53:55 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-11-30 13:54:41 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 15:52:44 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 15:53:08 BetaMaster hiya testyo 2013-11-30 17:17:01 <-- Cactmas (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has quit (Quit: restarting computer) 2013-11-30 18:35:49 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 18:36:02 --> Cactmas (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 18:39:00 --> PotatoPerson (testaweta@k.clients.kiwiirc.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 18:39:43 PotatoPerson hi. 2013-11-30 18:40:21 --> Dick123 (Dick123@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 18:40:30 PotatoPerson ew your nick is ew 2013-11-30 18:40:35 Dick123 you're mean :( 2013-11-30 18:41:10 PotatoPerson lol no im not!!! i was just pointing your name is ew :( 2013-11-30 18:41:18 Dick123 but that's not nice :( 2013-11-30 18:41:26 PotatoPerson why isint it :( 2013-11-30 18:41:34 Dick123 because you were calling my nick ew :( 2013-11-30 18:41:51 PotatoPerson but it is ew :( 2013-11-30 18:42:06 Dick123 what makes you think that :( 2013-11-30 18:42:08 Dick123 it's my real name :( 2013-11-30 18:42:21 PotatoPerson oh hi!!!!!!! 2013-11-30 18:42:49 Dick123 hi potatoperson 2013-11-30 18:42:52 Dick123 im dick123 2013-11-30 18:42:56 PotatoPerson hello im potatoperson 2013-11-30 18:43:03 PotatoPerson wanna be my frend 2013-11-30 18:43:04 Dick123 hi :D 2013-11-30 18:43:11 Dick123 yaeh ill be yuor freind 2013-11-30 18:43:16 PotatoPerson yay thanks :D 2013-11-30 18:43:26 Dick123 cool :D 2013-11-30 18:43:31 Dick123 why isn't anyone saying things :( 2013-11-30 18:43:42 PotatoPerson they hate us :( 2013-11-30 18:43:47 Dick123 why :( 2013-11-30 18:43:51 Dick123 they aer mena :( 2013-11-30 18:43:54 PotatoPerson i dont no :( 2013-11-30 18:44:02 PotatoPerson i joined because im having trubbles with my pikmin 3 2013-11-30 18:44:05 Dick123 its bad :( 2013-11-30 18:44:07 PotatoPerson i mean pikmin 2 2013-11-30 18:44:12 Dick123 hi testyo 2013-11-30 18:44:17 PotatoPerson can someone help with my pikmin 2 2013-11-30 18:44:19 Dick123 testyo was nice enough to greet me 2013-11-30 18:44:20 Dick123 :D 2013-11-30 18:44:34 PotatoPerson yeah same thanks testyo wanna be frends 2013-11-30 18:44:44 Dick123 testyo are you there? 2013-11-30 18:44:55 Dick123 SAY STUFF 2013-11-30 18:44:56 PotatoPerson LOL i realide that testyo looks like espyo! lol! 2013-11-30 18:45:04 Dick123 what makes you think that :O 2013-11-30 18:45:12 PotatoPerson look at there names!!!!! 2013-11-30 18:45:20 Dick123 but espyo doesnt haev test inhis anem, 2013-11-30 18:45:31 PotatoPerson but they have yo!! 2013-11-30 18:45:42 PotatoPerson yo espyo LOL! 2013-11-30 18:46:10 Dick123 cool they like to yo us :D 2013-11-30 18:46:11 Dick123 yo espyo 2013-11-30 18:46:13 Dick123 yo testyo 2013-11-30 18:46:33 PotatoPerson whos RingtailedFox??? 2013-11-30 18:46:36 Dick123 you chanserv and j and betamaster and cactmas and dick123 and gamefreak75 and miles and potatoperson and ringtailedfox and scr7 2013-11-30 18:46:37 PotatoPerson that sounds like firefox! 2013-11-30 18:46:43 Dick123 i pinged everyone :) 2013-11-30 18:46:52 PotatoPerson good job my tuarn!!! 2013-11-30 18:46:58 Dick123 go go go 2013-11-30 18:47:23 PotatoPerson hi chanserv hi j hi betamaster hi cactmas hi disk123 hi espyo hi gamefreak75 hi miles hi potatoperson hi ringtailedfox hi scr7 hi testyo!!!!! 2013-11-30 18:47:34 Scr7 :| 2013-11-30 18:47:43 BetaMaster what 2013-11-30 18:47:58 Scr7 why are you spamming people 2013-11-30 18:48:02 PotatoPerson hi!!! 2013-11-30 18:48:08 PotatoPerson scr7 betamaster hi!!!! frends? 2013-11-30 18:48:47 PotatoPerson :( 2013-11-30 18:48:55 Dick123 :( 2013-11-30 18:48:58 PotatoPerson dick123 we so lonely 2013-11-30 18:49:03 Dick123 i know :( 2013-11-30 18:49:06 Dick123 we need to ping everyone again 2013-11-30 18:49:16 PotatoPerson yeah we need 2013-11-30 18:49:25 Dick123 chanserv j betamaster cactmas dick123 espyo gamefreak75 miles potatoperson ringtailedfox scr7 testyo 2013-11-30 18:49:25 Testyo 75 miles = 120.773 km 2013-11-30 18:49:29 Dick123 hi testyo :D 2013-11-30 18:49:31 Dick123 wanna be friends? 2013-11-30 18:49:34 PotatoPerson hai chanserv hai j hai betamaster hiya cactmas hi disk123 hi espyo hi gamefreak75 hi miles hi potatoperson hi ringtailedfox hi scr7 hi testyo 2013-11-30 18:50:17 PotatoPerson :( 2013-11-30 18:50:20 PotatoPerson they dont love us 2013-11-30 18:50:23 Dick123 :( 2013-11-30 18:50:25 Dick123 only testyo does 2013-11-30 18:50:25 PotatoPerson i need help with pikmin 2013-11-30 18:50:33 Dick123 testyo want me to dick you 2013-11-30 18:50:39 Dick123 OOPS I MEANT BE FRENDS xDDDD 2013-11-30 18:50:50 PotatoPerson LOLLLL YOU MADE FUNNY WORD XDD 2013-11-30 18:50:56 Cactmas wat 2013-11-30 18:51:02 PotatoPerson omg cactmas 2013-11-30 18:51:04 Dick123 cactmas hi :D 2013-11-30 18:51:06 PotatoPerson wann be frend :) 2013-11-30 18:51:08 Dick123 wana nb ef rends 2013-11-30 18:51:12 Dick123 :) 2013-11-30 18:51:14 Cactmas where are you from 2013-11-30 18:51:21 PotatoPerson im from germany 2013-11-30 18:51:22 Dick123 im frok vostok station antratika 2013-11-30 18:51:27 Dick123 just joking xD 2013-11-30 18:51:27 PotatoPerson jk 2013-11-30 18:51:30 PotatoPerson im from soviet union 2013-11-30 18:51:34 Dick123 imf rom rusasia 2013-11-30 18:51:42 PotatoPerson omfG 2013-11-30 18:51:47 Dick123 cactmas how old are yuo and where do you love 2013-11-30 18:51:50 Dick123 ioops th meant live ;D 2013-11-30 18:51:52 PotatoPerson Cactmas asl 2013-11-30 18:52:23 Dick123 FUCK YOU CHANSERV 2013-11-30 18:52:25 Dick123 SAY THINGS 2013-11-30 18:52:33 PotatoPerson YEAH CHANSERV DUCK YOU 2013-11-30 18:52:34 Dick123 potatoperson how old are you 2013-11-30 18:52:40 PotatoPerson im 8 2013-11-30 18:52:44 Dick123 cool :D 2013-11-30 18:52:46 Dick123 im 11 2013-11-30 18:52:51 PotatoPerson jk im 12 2013-11-30 18:53:01 Dick123 but its my birthdya on decembe r the 35th! 2013-11-30 18:53:09 PotatoPerson omg!!!! 2013-11-30 18:53:14 PotatoPerson happy berthday!!! 2013-11-30 18:53:22 Dick123 betamaster how olda re yuo and wher d o you lvie 2013-11-30 18:53:56 Dick123 anwsre my uqestion :( 2013-11-30 18:54:00 BetaMaster out of every user in this channel 2013-11-30 18:54:04 BetaMaster you pick BetaMaster :| 2013-11-30 18:54:13 BetaMaster ask scr7 or something 2013-11-30 18:54:16 Dick123 ok ill pikc sometng else 2013-11-30 18:54:17 Dick123 ok :D 2013-11-30 18:54:23 PotatoPerson scr7 i love you whats your asl 2013-11-30 18:54:24 Dick123 scr7 how old rte ryou and wherf fdeoyulv ei 2013-11-30 18:54:35 Scr7 :| 2013-11-30 18:56:06 * PotatoPerson sits on Gamefreak75 2013-11-30 18:57:26 Dick123 ill be back later! 2013-11-30 18:57:45 PotatoPerson ok have fun!!!! 2013-11-30 18:57:50 PotatoPerson have fun being back!! 2013-11-30 18:57:52 PotatoPerson later!! 2013-11-30 18:57:55 * Dick123 rapes miles and ringtailedfox and potatoperson 2013-11-30 18:57:55 Dick123 :D 2013-11-30 18:57:58 <-- Dick123 (Dick123@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 2013-11-30 18:58:38 <-- PotatoPerson (testaweta@k.clients.kiwiirc.com) has left #pikipedia 2013-11-30 19:18:34 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-11-30 19:28:59 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-11-30 19:32:19 -- BetaMaster is now known as BRBetaMaster 2013-11-30 20:41:46 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 20:41:55 @J well that was a thing 2013-11-30 20:42:10 Espyo a sad display 2013-11-30 20:42:32 @J I guess it was that guy from before, I forget what name he used then 2013-11-30 20:42:42 @J ...that's not very descriptive 2013-11-30 20:44:59 Espyo not really sure it was 2013-11-30 20:45:06 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by UltraMario2))) 2013-11-30 20:51:33 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 20:51:33 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-11-30 20:51:42 @PikFan . 2013-11-30 20:52:06 Scr7 . 2013-11-30 20:52:20 Espyo hi 2013-11-30 20:53:49 @PikFan okay there was this weird dude who spammed my quert 2013-11-30 20:53:51 @PikFan *quert 2013-11-30 20:53:56 @PikFan **query 2013-11-30 20:54:11 Espyo heh, typical 2013-11-30 20:55:55 @J query? 2013-11-30 21:34:50 --> ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-11-30 21:35:00 ThePikminMeister Hello 2013-11-30 21:37:09 <-- ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@sig-584go79l.dyn.optonline.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-11-30 21:52:28 --> Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 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2013-12-01 01:59:10 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-01 01:59:22 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 01:59:22 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-01 01:59:22 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-01 01:59:22 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster CactmaSleep Gamefreak75 J Miles] 2013-12-01 01:59:22 -- Channel #pikipedia: 6 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 5 normals) 2013-12-01 01:59:22 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-01 01:59:22 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-01 01:59:24 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-01 01:59:24 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-01 05:22:07 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 05:22:13 <-- UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-12-01 06:26:21 -- 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voices, 7 normals) 2013-12-01 14:38:00 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-01 14:38:00 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-01 14:38:02 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-01 14:38:02 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-01 16:05:14 @J hey, regarding that teleporting fighter game I came up with 2013-12-01 16:05:33 Espyo mhm 2013-12-01 16:05:41 @J I want to try to make it possible to set up a new teleport while you're teleporting 2013-12-01 16:05:59 @J there are 3 ways I can think of doing this: 2013-12-01 16:06:34 @J 1. charging is almost real-time (you move for almost as long as you charge) - but this makes the actual movement phase (not really a 'teleport' any more) very slow 2013-12-01 16:06:47 Espyo right 2013-12-01 16:06:58 @J 2. the 2nd teleport is much faster, and charges faster, and you can chain them if you can do it fast enough 2013-12-01 16:07:13 Espyo that mightn't be too good 2013-12-01 16:07:15 @J 3. your character slows down while you charge the next one 2013-12-01 16:07:20 Espyo you do some damage, then teleport away really fast until the time is over 2013-12-01 16:07:47 Espyo 3 would make it kinda useless, and predictable 2013-12-01 16:07:50 @J why is that not a good thing? 2013-12-01 16:08:09 Espyo hmm 2013-12-01 16:08:16 Espyo I suppose it's not a bad thing 2013-12-01 16:08:21 @J yes, 3 makes it more of a cancel than actual changing how you're going to move 2013-12-01 16:09:19 @J for your issue with 2: you'd have to be skilled enough to hit them while moving quickly, and then charge up and release within the short time you're moving 2013-12-01 16:09:38 @J with a sensible direction and accounting for the extra speed of this teleport over the 1st-level one 2013-12-01 16:09:57 @J anyway, just wondering which you think makes most sense 2013-12-01 16:10:02 @J could try them all, of course 2013-12-01 16:10:04 Espyo right 2013-12-01 16:10:36 Espyo charge time to teleport time has to be a no 2013-12-01 16:11:34 @J yeah, I kind of agree 2013-12-01 16:11:51 @J I'll obviously have to experiment with the ratio there anyway - I think the 10x I suggested before would be too much 2013-12-01 16:11:55 Espyo mhm, mhm 2013-12-01 16:11:57 @J maybe 3x would work better 2013-12-01 16:12:02 Espyo yeah 2013-12-01 16:12:12 Espyo anywhere between 3 and 6 would be good, I imagine 2013-12-01 17:06:26 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-01 17:06:38 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 17:06:38 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-01 17:06:38 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-01 17:06:38 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster Cactmas Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles Testyo] 2013-12-01 17:06:38 -- Channel #pikipedia: 8 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 7 normals) 2013-12-01 17:06:38 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-01 17:06:38 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-01 17:06:39 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-01 17:06:39 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-01 17:25:07 @J I opened up my laptop and turned it upside down, and a screw fell out, and I have no idea where it came from 2013-12-01 17:26:21 Espyo ah the mystery screws 2013-12-01 17:26:34 Espyo last time I opened mine, there was an extra screw 2013-12-01 17:27:06 @J it's not one I took out, it was just in there, somewhere 2013-12-01 17:37:04 @J okay, clearing out some dust took me from 5FPS to 20 in Minecraft 2013-12-01 17:37:56 @J 90C to 70C 2013-12-01 17:37:56 Testyo 90 C = 194 °F / 363.15 °K 2013-12-01 17:38:26 @J okay, it's not 'degrees Kelvin', it's just Kelvin 2013-12-01 17:43:09 Espyo ...that it is 2013-12-01 17:43:21 Espyo wow 2013-12-01 17:43:57 Espyo 45C 2013-12-01 17:43:57 Testyo 45 C = 113 °F / 318.15 K 2013-12-01 17:44:03 Cactmas o 2013-12-01 17:44:06 Cactmas 0C 2013-12-01 17:44:07 Testyo 0 C = 32 °F / 273.15 K 2013-12-01 17:44:12 Espyo what about degrees Fahrenheit? 2013-12-01 17:44:26 Cactmas shouldn't it be °C 2013-12-01 17:44:45 Espyo it works for °C, ºC, C and Celsius 2013-12-01 17:44:48 @J yeah, it's degrees for C and F, but not K 2013-12-01 17:44:58 @J I think he means Testyo should say the degrees 2013-12-01 17:45:00 Espyo to make it so he converts more things instead of ultra-specific numbers and units 2013-12-01 17:45:05 @J 40°C 2013-12-01 17:45:06 Testyo 40 °C = 104 °F / 313.15 K 2013-12-01 17:45:10 @J oh, he just copies you 2013-12-01 17:45:11 @J okay then 2013-12-01 17:45:13 Cactmas -40C 2013-12-01 17:45:13 Testyo -40 C = -40 °F / 233.15 K 2013-12-01 17:45:18 Espyo hmm, right 2013-12-01 17:45:20 @J -5K 2013-12-01 17:45:20 Testyo -5 K = -278.15 °C / -4974.7 °F 2013-12-01 17:45:23 @J haaaah 2013-12-01 17:45:28 Espyo because he says = 2013-12-01 17:45:28 Cactmas >-5K 2013-12-01 17:45:28 Testyo -5 K = -278.15 °C / -4974.7 °F 2013-12-01 17:45:42 Espyo well, checking if Kelvin is negative requires an actual check 2013-12-01 17:45:54 Espyo these conversions work with just one equation 2013-12-01 17:45:57 Espyo no checks 2013-12-01 17:46:15 @J how does it pick it up? 2013-12-01 17:46:17 Espyo just pretend Testyo is a bot from the future, where the notion of absolute 0 is unreal 2013-12-01 17:46:18 @J 3.4K 2013-12-01 17:46:18 Testyo 3.4 K = -269.75 °C / -4823.5 °F 2013-12-01 17:46:22 @J .4K 2013-12-01 17:46:22 Testyo 4 K = -269.15 °C / -4812.7 °F 2013-12-01 17:46:25 @J .K 2013-12-01 17:46:26 @J 0.K 2013-12-01 17:46:30 Espyo number, followed by any unit it recognizes 2013-12-01 17:46:39 @J 0.4.5K 2013-12-01 17:46:40 Testyo 0.4.5 K = -272.75 °C / -4877.5 °F 2013-12-01 17:46:42 @J ... 2013-12-01 17:46:44 Espyo between the number and unit, there can be a space or nothing 2013-12-01 17:46:50 Espyo that's... bizarre 2013-12-01 17:46:58 @J 5.0.5C 2013-12-01 17:46:59 Testyo 5.0.5 C = 41 °F / 278.15 K 2013-12-01 17:47:16 @J I'm guessing you did [\.0-9]* or something 2013-12-01 17:47:19 Espyo well, my bot can calculate numbers with two decimals 2013-12-01 17:47:25 Espyo no regex, manual checking 2013-12-01 17:47:25 @J 5C 2013-12-01 17:47:25 Testyo 5 C = 41 °F / 278.15 K 2013-12-01 17:47:29 @J it just ignores it 2013-12-01 17:47:33 @J 5.5aC 2013-12-01 17:47:35 @J 5.5a C 2013-12-01 17:47:42 Espyo this was before I learned how to do regex in C++ 2013-12-01 17:47:43 @J 5.5.C 2013-12-01 17:47:44 @J 5.5. C 2013-12-01 17:47:46 Espyo (which is still now) 2013-12-01 17:47:50 @J 5.5.a C 2013-12-01 17:48:09 @J you're using a standard library function, then? 2013-12-01 17:48:40 Espyo to recognize numbers? 2013-12-01 17:48:50 @J yeah 2013-12-01 17:48:54 Espyo no, I just grab digits, commas and dots 2013-12-01 17:48:56 Espyo and - 2013-12-01 17:48:57 @J ...oh 2013-12-01 17:49:01 Espyo all manual 2013-12-01 17:49:10 @J and you disallow the last character being a . 2013-12-01 17:49:14 @J .C 2013-12-01 17:49:18 Espyo yep 2013-12-01 17:49:27 @J ..5C 2013-12-01 17:49:27 Testyo 5 C = 41 °F / 278.15 K 2013-12-01 17:49:28 Espyo unfortunately I don't disallow multiple . on the same number... 2013-12-01 17:49:32 @J .5C 2013-12-01 17:49:32 Testyo 5 C = 41 °F / 278.15 K 2013-12-01 17:49:35 @J wait 2013-12-01 17:49:43 @J oh, I didn't even realise it got that wrong before 2013-12-01 17:49:58 Espyo 1.2.3.4.5.6.7cm 2013-12-01 17:49:58 Testyo 1.2.3.4.5.6.7 cm = 0.47256 in / 0.03936 ft / 0.631579 Olimar-heights / 1.9992 TRY-heights 2013-12-01 17:50:08 Espyo ignore the last one 2013-12-01 17:50:09 @J TRY? 2013-12-01 17:50:10 Cactmas o 2013-12-01 17:50:11 Espyo that's relevant on another channel 2013-12-01 17:50:12 @J ... 2013-12-01 17:50:15 @J I see 2013-12-01 17:53:51 -- BetaMaster is now known as BrBetaMaster 2013-12-01 18:59:24 -- BrBetaMaster is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-01 19:09:32 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-01 19:10:51 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 19:10:51 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 19:10:52 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-01 19:10:59 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 19:10:59 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 19:12:57 -- Cactmas is now known as Cactmas|AFK 2013-12-01 19:15:15 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-01 19:16:23 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 19:16:23 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 19:17:04 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-01 19:17:32 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 19:17:32 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 19:18:48 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-01 19:28:43 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 19:30:27 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-01 19:30:35 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 19:43:16 -- Cactmas|AFK is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-01 19:56:21 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 19:56:21 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 19:57:14 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-01 19:57:20 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 19:57:20 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 19:57:41 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Remote host closed the connection) 2013-12-01 20:09:17 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 20:09:17 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 20:09:25 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-01 20:09:30 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 20:09:30 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 20:29:43 <-- Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: nwehehehe) 2013-12-01 22:09:43 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-01 22:09:55 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 22:09:55 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-01 22:09:55 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-01 22:09:55 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ @PikFan brBetaMaster Cactmas Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Testyo] 2013-12-01 22:09:55 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (2 ops, 0 voices, 7 normals) 2013-12-01 22:09:55 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-01 22:09:55 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-01 22:09:56 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-01 22:09:56 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-01 22:15:49 Espyo hey 2013-12-01 22:15:51 Espyo yeah, it really does 2013-12-01 22:19:33 Espyo oh look, C++ is doing its thing again 2013-12-01 22:19:35 Espyo NOT working 2013-12-01 22:19:43 @PikFan fun 2013-12-01 22:20:00 Espyo "This number is " ((nr % 2 == 0) ? "even" : "odd") "." 2013-12-01 22:20:13 Espyo it complains about /something/ inside the inline conditional 2013-12-01 22:20:27 Espyo claims it needs to be an integral or enum type — fancy talk for "that should be a number" 2013-12-01 22:21:54 Espyo it has a problem with that "odd" 2013-12-01 22:21:59 Espyo it thinks it's not a string 2013-12-01 22:22:12 Espyo I cannot believe I have to create a new string that is exactly that string 2013-12-01 22:59:16 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-01 22:59:26 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 22:59:26 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 22:59:52 @PikFan hi Testyo 2013-12-01 23:02:17 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-01 23:04:58 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-01 23:05:04 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 23:05:04 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 23:06:19 --> Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 23:14:08 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-01 23:14:12 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 23:14:13 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 23:20:27 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: I have 4 papers to write) 2013-12-01 23:25:21 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-01 23:25:30 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-01 23:25:30 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-01 23:26:57 Espyo I think it's ready 2013-12-01 23:27:11 Espyo http://89.154.27.76:8080/1/polls 2013-12-01 23:27:14 Espyo the polls page, at least 2013-12-01 23:30:28 @J Testyo memo J http://89.154.27.76:8080/1/polls 2013-12-01 23:30:28 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for yourself saying: http://89.154.27.76:8080/1/polls. 2013-12-02 00:48:04 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-02 00:48:13 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-02 00:53:53 --> Kingofbrawl128 (Mibbit@58-69-35-054.lightspeed.brfrct.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 00:54:12 <-- Kingofbrawl128 (Mibbit@58-69-35-054.lightspeed.brfrct.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-02 02:16:35 -- brBetaMaster is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-02 05:09:54 --> Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 05:13:52 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-02 07:01:12 <-- CactmaSleep (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-02 10:50:02 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 10:50:02 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 10:53:18 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 12:36:11 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-02 12:38:03 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 12:38:03 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 12:45:31 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-02 12:45:37 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 12:45:37 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 12:58:46 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-02 13:44:30 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 13:44:30 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 13:51:20 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-02 13:52:22 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 13:52:22 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 17:26:11 --> Cactmas (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 19:29:12 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 20:01:05 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-02 20:01:17 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 20:01:17 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-02 20:01:17 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-02 20:01:17 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster Cactmas Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles Ringtailed-Fox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-02 20:01:17 -- Channel #pikipedia: 10 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 9 normals) 2013-12-02 20:01:17 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-02 20:01:17 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-02 20:01:18 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-02 20:01:18 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-02 20:41:45 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-02 20:51:13 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 21:27:38 @J . 2013-12-02 21:27:38 Testyo Oh, J, you have a memo from yourself, written on 01/12/2013 23:30 (GMT), saying: http://89.154.27.76:8080/1/polls. 2013-12-02 21:28:06 @J should've known that URL wouldn't continue to work 2013-12-02 21:29:11 @J BTW, when does Testyo give you memos from yourself? 2013-12-02 21:29:15 @J Testyo memo J test 2013-12-02 21:29:15 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for yourself saying: test. 2013-12-02 21:29:17 @J . 2013-12-02 21:29:18 Testyo Oh, J, you have a memo from yourself, written on 02/12/2013 21:29 (GMT), saying: test. 2013-12-02 21:29:20 @J ...I see 2013-12-02 21:29:34 @J maybe implement a few-hour timeout there? 2013-12-02 21:55:35 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-02 21:55:47 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 21:55:47 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-02 21:55:47 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-02 21:55:47 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster Cactmas Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles Ringtailed-Fox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-02 21:55:47 -- Channel #pikipedia: 10 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 9 normals) 2013-12-02 21:55:47 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-02 21:55:47 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-02 21:55:48 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-02 21:55:48 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-02 22:15:11 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-02 22:15:22 Espyo 21:50 Espyo hehe 2013-12-02 22:15:31 Espyo also it's meant to memo people when they join 2013-12-02 22:15:36 Espyo but you have an option to memo you when you talk 2013-12-02 22:15:44 Espyo I'll give you the correct url in a sec, just finishing up 2013-12-02 22:16:31 --> Scr7| (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:17:30 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-02 22:17:41 -- Scr7| is now known as Scr7 2013-12-02 22:23:26 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-02 22:24:19 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:24:19 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 22:24:40 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-02 22:24:41 Testyo Hang on a bit, I don't have the address to the server to give you! 2013-12-02 22:24:43 Espyo ok, good 2013-12-02 22:25:25 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-02 22:25:26 Testyo Here's the link to my instance on the server: 89.154.27.76/Pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:25:31 Espyo excellent 2013-12-02 22:25:35 Espyo needs more http://, though 2013-12-02 22:25:50 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-02 22:29:09 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:29:09 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 22:29:23 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-02 22:29:23 Testyo Hang on a bit, I don't have the address to the server to give you! 2013-12-02 22:29:26 Espyo ... 2013-12-02 22:31:09 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-02 22:31:09 Testyo Here's the link to my instance on the server: http://89.154.27.76/Pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:31:21 Espyo ugh 2013-12-02 22:32:14 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-02 22:32:39 @J [22:15:36] Espyo but you have an option to memo you when you talk 2013-12-02 22:32:50 @J you mean it's turned on for me, or I'm the only one with this option? 2013-12-02 22:32:57 Espyo it's turned on for you 2013-12-02 22:33:05 Espyo do "Testyo options" 2013-12-02 22:33:08 Espyo err... not now 2013-12-02 22:33:13 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:33:13 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 22:33:14 Espyo there we go 2013-12-02 22:33:18 @J Testyo option 2013-12-02 22:33:19 @J s 2013-12-02 22:33:21 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-02 22:33:21 Testyo Something's wrong with the HTTP server! Espyo, get in here! 2013-12-02 22:33:25 Espyo ok, great 2013-12-02 22:33:27 @J oh, he knew my typo 2013-12-02 22:33:28 Espyo that's more like it 2013-12-02 22:33:30 @J well done 2013-12-02 22:33:42 Espyo don't really remember making it recognize option and options 2013-12-02 22:33:46 Espyo but I guess I must've 2013-12-02 22:33:49 Espyo second nature by now 2013-12-02 22:33:56 Espyo anyway, now to actually get the server working 2013-12-02 22:34:07 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-02 22:34:14 Espyo which is just a matter of not using port 80 2013-12-02 22:34:23 Espyo and it's windows' fault because it refuses to tell me why port 80 is being used 2013-12-02 22:34:31 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:34:31 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 22:34:42 Espyo too bad I have to ask an external website for my IP address 2013-12-02 22:34:55 @J don't know about Windows, but on other systems, assigning to ports below some number (256, maybe?) is restricted to root 2013-12-02 22:35:04 @J *listening on ports, I should say 2013-12-02 22:35:18 Espyo well, I managed to get it to listen on port 80 before 2013-12-02 22:35:31 Espyo meanwhile, time has passed, computer's been formatted since, and now I can't any more and don't know why 2013-12-02 22:35:35 Espyo either way, 8080 works fine 2013-12-02 22:35:36 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-02 22:35:36 Testyo Here's the link to my instance on the server: http://89.154.27.76/Pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:35:43 Espyo you forgot the port, Testyo 2013-12-02 22:36:59 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-02 22:37:08 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:37:08 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 22:37:15 Espyo eesh, all these joins and parts... 2013-12-02 22:37:54 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-02 22:37:55 Testyo Here's the link to my instance on the server: http://89.154.27.76:8080/Pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:37:58 Espyo NOW we're talking 2013-12-02 22:39:30 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-02 22:39:41 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:39:41 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-02 22:39:53 @J Testyo spycheck 2013-12-02 22:39:53 Testyo You didn't tell me the nickname! 2013-12-02 22:39:56 @J Testyo help spycheck 2013-12-02 22:40:00 @J . 2013-12-02 22:40:00 Espyo nope 2013-12-02 22:40:07 @J Testyo help me now 2013-12-02 22:40:09 @J Testyo help 2013-12-02 22:40:09 Testyo Help file: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47921869/Permanent/Testyo/Help.html Ask Espyo for more info! 2013-12-02 22:40:32 @J Testyo spycheck me 2013-12-02 22:40:32 Testyo There's nobody with the nickname me on this channel! 2013-12-02 22:40:34 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-02 22:40:34 Testyo Here's the link to my instance on the server: http://89.154.27.76:8080/Pikipedia 2013-12-02 22:40:35 @J Testyo spycheck J 2013-12-02 22:40:36 Testyo That's the real J. 2013-12-02 22:41:13 Espyo crap, broke the HTML a bit there 2013-12-02 22:44:03 @J did you know there are actually HTML progress bar elements? 2013-12-02 22:44:23 Espyo ...don't ruin my fantasies of reinventing the wheel 2013-12-02 22:44:34 Espyo hmmm... I never heard of those, though 2013-12-02 22:44:37 Espyo is that HTML5? 2013-12-02 22:44:57 @J mm, probably 2013-12-02 22:46:20 Espyo do you happen to know its name? 2013-12-02 22:52:20 @J uh, I forget 2013-12-02 22:52:26 @J I found it on MDN recently-ish 2013-12-02 22:52:33 @J also, http://89.154.27.76:8080/Pikipedia/word_records 2013-12-02 22:52:38 @J I don't understand this page 2013-12-02 22:53:22 Espyo Testyo: how many times was Wikia said by PikFan? 2013-12-02 22:53:22 Testyo PikFan has said Wikia 29 times, since 28/08/2013 (96 days ago, 0.299226 times/day). 2013-12-02 22:53:25 Espyo he's keeping track 2013-12-02 22:53:31 @J https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/progress 2013-12-02 22:53:39 Espyo instead of asking like I just did for every single thing, you get them all on a list 2013-12-02 22:53:44 @J I mean, what makes him choose what to keep track of? 2013-12-02 22:53:53 Espyo you tell him 2013-12-02 22:54:02 Espyo Testyo: record how many times J says ... 2013-12-02 22:54:03 Testyo I have no record on the nickname how many times J says .... 2013-12-02 22:54:06 Espyo hmm 2013-12-02 22:54:16 @J can hwait what 2013-12-02 22:54:21 @J that's a bit messed up 2013-12-02 22:54:24 Espyo Testyo: record how many times ... is said by J 2013-12-02 22:54:24 Testyo Done. I'm now recording how many times J says .... 2013-12-02 22:54:26 @J what I just said too 2013-12-02 22:54:37 Espyo it was mostly used on the other channel 2013-12-02 22:54:51 Espyo to measure how many times one of our members said "ok" 2013-12-02 22:54:51 @J 'I have no record on the nickname how many times J says ....' 2013-12-02 22:55:00 Espyo Testyo: record Espyo 2013-12-02 22:55:00 Testyo What I know about you is: Recording since 07/08/2013. Last activity on 02/12/2013 22:55 (d/m/y GMT). Total number of words is 70286. Total number of lines is 11132. (6.31387 words/line.) Number game victories: 0. Hangman victories: 2. Scrambled word victories: 27. Last words were: Testyo: record Espyo, on #pikipedia. 2013-12-02 22:55:03 Espyo conflicting syntaxes, you see 2013-12-02 22:55:12 Espyo also, these word records are great to keep track of swears 2013-12-02 22:55:13 @J okay, how does he think I said ... twice already? 2013-12-02 22:55:15 Espyo let me check real quick 2013-12-02 22:55:35 Espyo hmm 2013-12-02 22:55:47 Espyo I can see the first: 22:54 J 'I have no record on the nickname how many times J says ....' 2013-12-02 22:55:51 Espyo oh, I think... 2013-12-02 22:55:56 Espyo it has 4 dots 2013-12-02 22:55:58 @J ... 2013-12-02 22:56:02 @J so it counts twice? 2013-12-02 22:56:07 Espyo so there's "..." with a "." after, and "..." with a "." before 2013-12-02 22:56:09 Espyo I guess it does 2013-12-02 22:56:09 @J so 10 dots counts 8 times 2013-12-02 22:56:10 @J ? 2013-12-02 22:56:16 Espyo it's not really meant to be ultra-effective 2013-12-02 22:56:20 @J ................................ 2013-12-02 22:56:24 Espyo yeah, I guess it does 2013-12-02 22:56:27 @J yep, just got 34 2013-12-02 22:56:28 Espyo that's more than 10 2013-12-02 22:56:28 @J great 2013-12-02 22:56:33 @J I know 2013-12-02 22:56:33 Espyo heh 2013-12-02 22:56:49 Espyo >fuck was said 5461 times, since 5/1/2013 (331 days ago, 0.685539 times/hour). 2013-12-02 22:56:52 Espyo this is over on the other network 2013-12-02 22:56:54 Espyo best stat 2013-12-02 22:57:13 Espyo hey, maybe I should make him also show times/hour on the page as well 2013-12-02 22:57:26 Espyo ...but the algorithm is kinda complex: it changes to times/day or times/minute accordingly 2013-12-02 22:57:29 Espyo or weeks or months 2013-12-02 22:57:35 @J then my ... one is going to be ridiculous 2013-12-02 22:57:49 Espyo only because of the ........... thing 2013-12-02 22:58:05 @J yeah 2013-12-02 22:58:16 Espyo ah, I figured the progress bar would be windows-like on windows 2013-12-02 22:58:22 Espyo ...why does it have no Linux examples? 2013-12-02 22:58:29 Espyo guess it must depend on the... 2013-12-02 22:58:32 Espyo what's the word... 2013-12-02 22:58:36 Espyo the thing that Gnome is 2013-12-02 22:58:58 Espyo well, that thing is too "progress"y for what I need 2013-12-02 22:58:58 @J anyway, this probably isn't the element you want to use 2013-12-02 22:59:02 Espyo besides, the bar is animated on windows 2013-12-02 22:59:11 @J there's another similar one for static progress 2013-12-02 22:59:16 @J forget what it's called 2013-12-02 23:00:10 Espyo not this, but this is neat https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/-moz-orient?redirectlocale=en-US&redirectslug=CSS%2F-moz-orient 2013-12-02 23:00:30 Espyo https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/meter maybe it's this? 2013-12-02 23:01:35 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: i'm out) 2013-12-02 23:01:47 @J yeah, that sounds right 2013-12-02 23:02:08 @J no IE support 2013-12-02 23:02:33 @J so under 'Result' on , what it shows you is animated? 2013-12-02 23:03:19 Espyo heh 2013-12-02 23:03:22 Espyo yep 2013-12-02 23:03:37 @J http://i.imgur.com/QAfmImq.png 2013-12-02 23:03:39 @J I see that 2013-12-02 23:04:43 Espyo ah 2013-12-02 23:05:28 @J http://peter.sh/examples/?/html/meter-progress.html 2013-12-02 23:06:08 @J [22:58:29] Espyo guess it must depend on the... 2013-12-02 23:06:08 @J [22:58:32] Espyo what's the word... 2013-12-02 23:06:08 @J [22:58:36] Espyo the thing that Gnome is 2013-12-02 23:06:16 @J Desktop Environment, but it doesn't 2013-12-02 23:06:30 @J depends on the toolkit Firefox uses, which looks like it's GTK 2013-12-02 23:06:40 @J also depends on your widget theme 2013-12-02 23:07:02 Espyo oh, I see 2013-12-02 23:07:03 Espyo makes sense 2013-12-02 23:07:30 Espyo it looks pretty neat 2013-12-02 23:07:39 Espyo but hey, if it ain't broken... 2013-12-02 23:07:46 Espyo besides, the style doesn't fit the rest of the page 2013-12-02 23:07:52 Espyo but that IS noted for the future, so cheers 2013-12-02 23:07:54 @J yeah, I was just pointing it out 2013-12-02 23:20:34 @J okay, I'm starting to realise that using a wooden floor where the contraption beneath uses lava might not have been the best idea 2013-12-02 23:21:14 Espyo depends on what you want to do 2013-12-02 23:21:17 Espyo makes for a neat trap 2013-12-02 23:21:47 @J no matter what you want to do, if the stuff you've placed randomly burns away, you're doing it wrong 2013-12-02 23:23:20 Espyo that's just it 2013-12-02 23:23:23 Espyo a burglar comes around 2013-12-02 23:23:25 Espyo thinks the floor is safe 2013-12-02 23:23:30 Espyo and it starts crumbling under his feet 2013-12-02 23:23:35 Espyo ...it's a very poor trap, but hey 2013-12-02 23:23:38 @J ...more like a burglar comes around, finds there's no floor 2013-12-02 23:24:06 Espyo you have to be fast, that's the downfall 2013-12-02 23:24:13 Espyo have to be fast to set up a slow trap 2013-12-02 23:24:21 @J yes 2013-12-02 23:24:40 @J the fire doesn't seem to spread, and it seems to get one block every 10 minutes or so 2013-12-02 23:24:49 Espyo that's really painfully slow 2013-12-02 23:25:22 @J it's probably because I put some bricks between the wood and the lava 2013-12-02 23:27:14 Espyo oh, and the lava still reaches through? 2013-12-02 23:28:30 @J yeah 2013-12-02 23:29:29 @J got to go; goodnight 2013-12-02 23:31:14 Espyo night 2013-12-02 23:34:18 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-02 23:34:51 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-02 23:34:51 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-03 00:06:11 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-03 00:06:29 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 00:06:29 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-03 00:40:22 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-03 00:40:33 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-03 07:05:27 -- BetaMaster is now known as BetaMaster[sleep] 2013-12-03 15:19:39 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-03 15:56:59 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 15:58:04 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-03 16:48:53 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-03 17:03:26 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 19:16:31 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmasAFK 2013-12-03 19:33:01 --> Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 19:33:02 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-03 19:48:46 -- CactmasAFK is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-03 20:18:23 -- BetaMaster[sleep] is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-03 20:20:17 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-03 20:21:12 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 20:50:56 --> dennistheman (dennisthem@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 20:50:58 --> PotatoGuy (PotatoGuy@k.clients.kiwiirc.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 20:51:02 dennistheman Hi. 2013-12-03 20:51:16 PotatoGuy hay dennis. 2013-12-03 20:51:23 PotatoGuy can someone help me with my pikmin game 2013-12-03 20:51:26 PotatoGuy i need help with it 2013-12-03 20:51:29 dennistheman Oh hey potatoguy 2013-12-03 20:51:33 dennistheman How was your day? 2013-12-03 20:51:39 PotatoGuy my day is god 2013-12-03 20:51:41 PotatoGuy how is you'res 2013-12-03 20:51:51 dennistheman mine is god too :) 2013-12-03 20:51:55 dennistheman we're both godly :D 2013-12-03 20:52:37 PotatoGuy omg!!!!!!!! :D 2013-12-03 20:52:48 dennistheman lol it's cool 2013-12-03 20:52:56 dennistheman Anyway, what was your question about pikmin? 2013-12-03 20:53:01 PotatoGuy so espyo can you help me with my pikmin 2013-12-03 20:53:04 PotatoGuy please espyo 2013-12-03 20:53:06 PotatoGuy help 2013-12-03 20:53:11 dennistheman Is he there? 2013-12-03 20:53:17 PotatoGuy espyo is you there 2013-12-03 20:53:24 dennistheman Let's ping him. 2013-12-03 20:53:25 dennistheman Espyo 2013-12-03 20:53:30 PotatoGuy Espyo 2013-12-03 20:53:47 dennistheman :/ 2013-12-03 20:53:57 PotatoGuy :/ 2013-12-03 20:54:57 Espyo ...just because of that, I won't help anyone 2013-12-03 20:54:59 Espyo I'm busy you know 2013-12-03 20:55:07 Espyo you guys have to learn patience 2013-12-03 20:55:09 PotatoGuy hi espyo can you help me 2013-12-03 20:55:16 dennistheman Okay I'll be patience. :) 2013-12-03 20:55:19 PotatoGuy plssssssss :) 2013-12-03 20:55:24 PotatoGuy ill be your best frend 2013-12-03 20:55:38 dennistheman He needs to do things, ping other people! 2013-12-03 20:55:45 PotatoGuy ok! 2013-12-03 20:56:04 PotatoGuy J your an operator can you help me with my pikmin 2013-12-03 20:56:08 PotatoGuy please j i need you're help 2013-12-03 20:56:16 dennistheman Yeah, we thought you would be able to help us. 2013-12-03 20:56:19 Espyo ...he's away 2013-12-03 20:56:23 PotatoGuy yeah we have pikmin problems 2013-12-03 20:56:24 dennistheman Oh. 2013-12-03 20:56:26 PotatoGuy can you help me espyo 2013-12-03 20:56:30 Espyo here's a tip 2013-12-03 20:56:31 dennistheman This client doesn't show the away thing 2013-12-03 20:56:32 dennistheman On the userlist. 2013-12-03 20:56:40 Espyo anybody that's currently replying and talking is not busy 2013-12-03 20:56:45 Espyo anyone who's not talking is busy or away 2013-12-03 20:56:56 PotatoGuy oh 2013-12-03 20:56:57 Espyo so if you guys ask for help, you'll have to wait a bit 2013-12-03 20:57:01 PotatoGuy hi espyo 2013-12-03 20:57:02 Espyo don't worry, people WILL notice you're asking 2013-12-03 20:57:09 Espyo they get notifications of when other people talk 2013-12-03 20:57:16 PotatoGuy but i want help now! 2013-12-03 20:57:16 Espyo but forcing them out of whatever they're doing is a big no 2013-12-03 20:57:20 PotatoGuy my pickmin disck wont work 2013-12-03 20:57:21 dennistheman I like your text it's blue :D 2013-12-03 20:57:28 Espyo ... 2013-12-03 20:57:32 Espyo fine then, what's the problem? 2013-12-03 20:57:39 Espyo what game is it, and what console? 2013-12-03 20:57:44 PotatoGuy i put the disck in the wii u and it doesnt work! 2013-12-03 20:57:48 PotatoGuy its pikmin 1 2013-12-03 20:57:57 dennistheman Pikmin 1 sucks! 2013-12-03 20:58:00 dennistheman Pikmin 2 is better 2013-12-03 20:58:01 Espyo New Play Control! version? 2013-12-03 20:58:07 PotatoGuy whats that 2013-12-03 20:58:11 PotatoGuy no its the little disck 2013-12-03 20:58:11 Espyo dennistheman: Pikmin 2 is better, but Pikmin 1 doesn't suck, now shush 2013-12-03 20:58:16 Espyo well, that's the problem then 2013-12-03 20:58:21 Espyo the Wii U can't read GameCube disks 2013-12-03 20:58:24 PotatoGuy i put it in the wii u and it doesnt read it 2013-12-03 20:58:25 Espyo only the Wii can 2013-12-03 20:58:26 PotatoGuy what!!!!! 2013-12-03 20:58:33 PotatoGuy what a waist of money!!! 2013-12-03 20:58:41 Espyo it's a console for Wii and Wii U games 2013-12-03 20:58:49 dennistheman LOL you failed potatoguy xD 2013-12-03 20:59:01 PotatoGuy why did thay do that!! thats dum! 2013-12-03 20:59:04 PotatoGuy how do i play it 2013-12-03 20:59:14 dennistheman You need the right console LOL 2013-12-03 20:59:19 dennistheman I want! 2013-12-03 20:59:20 Espyo you either get a GameCube or a Wii 2013-12-03 20:59:25 PotatoGuy whats the right console? 2013-12-03 20:59:27 PotatoGuy whats a gamecube 2013-12-03 20:59:29 Espyo alternately, you buy the New Play Control! version of Pikmin 1 2013-12-03 20:59:35 Espyo the GameCube's the console before the Wii 2013-12-03 20:59:42 PotatoGuy oh 2013-12-03 20:59:47 PotatoGuy thats neat i want a gamecube 2013-12-03 20:59:50 dennistheman PotatoGuy when's your birthday? 2013-12-03 20:59:51 PotatoGuy espyo do you have a gamecube i can have 2013-12-03 20:59:56 Espyo no 2013-12-03 20:59:59 PotatoGuy please 2013-12-03 21:00:13 PotatoGuy i want to play pikmin i just boght it like 5 days ago and cant play it!!! 2013-12-03 21:00:16 dennistheman PotatoGuy, i need to give $5 on your paypal to give you a present! 2013-12-03 21:00:16 Testyo $ 5 = 3.686 € / £ 3.1525 2013-12-03 21:00:23 dennistheman Thanks Testyo :D 2013-12-03 21:00:27 PotatoGuy omg! 2013-12-03 21:00:33 PotatoGuy my berthday is like january 8 2013-12-03 21:00:39 Espyo well take the game back 2013-12-03 21:00:47 dennistheman I got you a present potatoguy :D 2013-12-03 21:00:51 dennistheman http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nintendo-RVL-P-R9IE-Pikmin/dp/B001CTL5GQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1386104430&sr=8-1&keywords=new+play+control+pikmin 2013-12-03 21:00:59 PotatoGuy but! i wanna play it!!! 2013-12-03 21:01:03 <-- dennistheman (dennisthem@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) 2013-12-03 21:01:06 --> dennistheman (dennisthem@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 21:01:09 PotatoGuy ill cell the wii u 2013-12-03 21:01:13 PotatoGuy and bye a gamecube 2013-12-03 21:01:28 dennistheman Ugh, I got disconnected! 2013-12-03 21:01:33 dennistheman For no reason >:( 2013-12-03 21:01:44 PotatoGuy oh no! 2013-12-03 21:01:50 dennistheman But I'm back now :D 2013-12-03 21:02:02 PotatoGuy omg great hi! 2013-12-03 21:02:10 dennistheman Great Hi potatoguy! 2013-12-03 21:02:14 dennistheman xD 2013-12-03 21:02:26 PotatoGuy lol! 2013-12-03 21:02:51 PotatoGuy hey testyo do you have a gamecube 2013-12-03 21:02:55 PotatoGuy testyo??? 2013-12-03 21:03:02 dennistheman Testyo, i love you :D 2013-12-03 21:03:14 PotatoGuy Ringtailed-Fox can i buy your gamecube 2013-12-03 21:03:32 dennistheman Ringtailed-Fox! It sounds like firefox which i want the new versino of"! 2013-12-03 21:03:39 dennistheman I need the new version of Firefox :D 2013-12-03 21:04:20 PotatoGuy omg yes! 2013-12-03 21:04:31 PotatoGuy im using like 2013-12-03 21:04:34 PotatoGuy version 2013-12-03 21:04:35 PotatoGuy old 2013-12-03 21:04:42 dennistheman I need to pay Ringtailed-Fox $10 on Paypal to get the new Firefox! 2013-12-03 21:04:42 Testyo $ 10 = 7.372 € / £ 6.305 2013-12-03 21:04:51 dennistheman Thanks Testyo :D 2013-12-03 21:04:53 PotatoGuy omg Ringtailed-Fox can i have the new firefox 2013-12-03 21:05:36 dennistheman He's silent! :( 2013-12-03 21:05:45 PotatoGuy stop being silent i want firefox :( 2013-12-03 21:06:02 dennistheman BetaMaster, can you help with my Firefox? 2013-12-03 21:06:10 dennistheman I forgot how to install Adblockplus! 2013-12-03 21:06:24 dennistheman I accidentally closed it but I don't know how to re-enable it! :( 2013-12-03 21:07:01 BetaMaster I don't have an answer to that question, but Cactmas would be more than happy to help 2013-12-03 21:07:13 Cactmas wha what 2013-12-03 21:07:23 dennistheman Hi Cactmas! 2013-12-03 21:07:25 PotatoGuy cactmas i want firefox 2013-12-03 21:07:28 dennistheman Can you help with my Adblockplus? 2013-12-03 21:07:30 Cactmas yes 2013-12-03 21:07:33 dennistheman :D 2013-12-03 21:07:34 Cactmas smash your computer 2013-12-03 21:07:40 PotatoGuy omg ok 2013-12-03 21:07:41 dennistheman I'm not stupid >:( 2013-12-03 21:07:44 PotatoGuy oh 2013-12-03 21:07:46 dennistheman PotatoGuy, don't¬! 2013-12-03 21:07:51 dennistheman It won't work! 2013-12-03 21:07:57 PotatoGuy im not stoopid either! 2013-12-03 21:08:01 dennistheman I tried it on my dad's laptop! 2013-12-03 21:08:06 dennistheman But I missed xD 2013-12-03 21:08:30 dennistheman Scr7, help me with my Adblockplus! 2013-12-03 21:08:36 Cactmas and after you have smashed it, throw it out from a window 2013-12-03 21:08:41 Scr7 pfft 2013-12-03 21:08:44 Scr7 you just have to type 2013-12-03 21:08:45 Scr7 /quit 2013-12-03 21:08:49 dennistheman Thanks! :) 2013-12-03 21:08:50 <-- dennistheman (dennisthem@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has quit (Quit: dennistheman) 2013-12-03 21:08:54 PotatoGuy omg! 2013-12-03 21:08:56 PotatoGuy can i o it too 2013-12-03 21:08:58 PotatoGuy ???? 2013-12-03 21:09:08 PotatoGuy pleaseeeeee 2013-12-03 21:09:17 --> dennistheman (dennisthem@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 21:09:19 dennistheman >:( 2013-12-03 21:09:21 dennistheman What was that for! 2013-12-03 21:09:27 Cactmas a cookie 2013-12-03 21:09:32 dennistheman :D 2013-12-03 21:09:37 dennistheman Scr7 Give me a cookie!!!! 2013-12-03 21:09:43 Scr7 :| 2013-12-03 21:09:46 PotatoGuy omg scr7 me too!!!!!! 2013-12-03 21:10:02 PotatoGuy hit me with your best shit 2013-12-03 21:10:05 dennistheman wait i found someone who can help! 2013-12-03 21:10:05 PotatoGuy oops i mean shot 2013-12-03 21:10:11 dennistheman ChanServ will work! 2013-12-03 21:10:13 dennistheman Query him! 2013-12-03 21:10:26 dennistheman He's mean :( 2013-12-03 21:10:32 dennistheman He said "No help available for me!" 2013-12-03 21:10:42 dennistheman What a fucking whore!" 2013-12-03 21:10:52 PotatoGuy chanserv duck you 2013-12-03 21:10:57 PotatoGuy nobody loves you 2013-12-03 21:11:02 dennistheman I know! >:( 2013-12-03 21:11:02 PotatoGuy go die in a hole 2013-12-03 21:11:08 dennistheman You won't even respond to us! 2013-12-03 21:11:15 dennistheman Oh well, surely there are others who can help! 2013-12-03 21:11:38 Cactmas ok dennistheman, to install adblockplus you need to first install a so-called virus 2013-12-03 21:11:47 dennistheman I already have Adblockplus! 2013-12-03 21:12:07 dennistheman But, I accidentally closed it, and i forgot how to re-enable it! 2013-12-03 21:12:45 Cactmas re-install windows 2013-12-03 21:12:48 PotatoGuy dennistheman i know!!! 2013-12-03 21:13:00 dennistheman Why would i do that? 2013-12-03 21:13:01 PotatoGuy whois Cactmas and join all his channels maybe thirs one that can help us!!! 2013-12-03 21:13:06 dennistheman Okay! :) 2013-12-03 21:13:10 Cactmas :| 2013-12-03 21:13:15 dennistheman Woah, he's on a lot of channels! 2013-12-03 21:13:23 dennistheman But, why do they have a @ in front? 2013-12-03 21:13:27 dennistheman I can't click those ones! 2013-12-03 21:13:38 dennistheman Kiwiirc sucks! 2013-12-03 21:13:48 PotatoGuy im in #freakchat ! 2013-12-03 21:18:26 dennistheman They won't help us! :( 2013-12-03 21:18:36 dennistheman Miles, what site are you from? 2013-12-03 21:20:27 dennistheman I'm done now. You guys were very helpful! I will definitely come back here! 2013-12-03 21:20:29 <-- dennistheman (dennisthem@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has left #pikipedia 2013-12-03 21:21:11 PotatoGuy omg thanks guys your help made me good and ill get a gamecube because wii u sucks and deosnt play gamecube games! 2013-12-03 21:21:17 <-- PotatoGuy (PotatoGuy@k.clients.kiwiirc.com) has left #pikipedia 2013-12-03 21:42:24 Espyo ... 2013-12-03 21:46:23 Scr7 ._. 2013-12-03 22:39:27 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-03 23:01:31 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: potato) 2013-12-03 23:12:04 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 23:13:36 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-03 23:23:35 --> Firestar729 (Mibbit@24.38.yvw.hwi) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-03 23:23:40 <-- Firestar729 (Mibbit@24.38.yvw.hwi) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-03 23:46:30 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by BetaMaster2!Mibbit@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net))) 2013-12-04 00:57:13 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-04 00:57:36 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x79-294-81-92.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-04 01:37:20 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 04:19:12 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-04 06:15:37 <-- Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-04 07:03:28 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 11:19:38 --> Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 11:19:38 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-04 11:23:14 --> Espyo (Mibbit@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 11:51:36 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-04 12:30:42 <-- Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-04 12:32:05 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-04 13:22:51 --> Espyo (Mibbit@mmrh82.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 14:25:00 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@mmrh82.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-04 16:29:44 --> Nintendo_Fan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 16:29:52 <-- Nintendo_Fan (Mibbit@sw-803-48-265-143.accelplus.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-12-04 17:01:53 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 17:22:16 --> Espyo (Mibbit@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 17:25:59 --> Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 17:25:59 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-04 17:26:23 Espyo Testyo: memo J http://www.pikminwiki.com/Sunseed_Berry why is there a Pikmin 3 icon on the "In Pikmin 3" section? 2013-12-04 17:26:23 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for J saying: http://www.pikminwiki.com/Sunseed_Berry why is there a Pikmin 3 icon on the "In Pikmin 3" section?. 2013-12-04 17:31:23 Miles What? 2013-12-04 17:32:06 Espyo you know the orange "3" icon, made out of flowers, on the top-right of the article? 2013-12-04 17:32:28 Espyo there's an icon like that duplicated on the same line as the "In Pikmin 3" section's title 2013-12-04 17:35:02 Espyo oh, and a 2 on the "In Pikmin 2" line, duplicate from the top-right of the article as well 2013-12-04 18:09:14 --> Scr7_ (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 18:10:30 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Scr7_))) 2013-12-04 18:10:31 -- Scr7_ is now known as Scr7 2013-12-04 18:48:20 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-04 18:52:13 @J you actually replied to that guy? 2013-12-04 18:52:13 Testyo Oh, J, you have a memo from Espyo, written on 04/12/2013 17:26 (GMT), saying: http://www.pikminwiki.com/Sunseed_Berry why is there a Pikmin 3 icon on the "In Pikmin 3" section?. 2013-12-04 18:52:32 Espyo eh 2013-12-04 18:52:46 @J you mean why would you want one there, or what code's adding it? 2013-12-04 18:54:17 Espyo what code's adding it 2013-12-04 18:56:15 @J it's probably because both infoboxes add it 2013-12-04 18:56:33 Espyo I figured 2013-12-04 18:56:39 Espyo question is, what can we do to fix it? 2013-12-04 18:58:22 @J yeah, let me look into it 2013-12-04 18:59:05 @J I think I remember adding a parameter to infoboxes to disable it 2013-12-04 19:00:34 @J oh, no, but it's in the todo document 2013-12-04 19:00:41 @J Infoboxes: 2013-12-04 19:00:46 @J a clash=y parameter to put ‘()’ after the infobox title, for pages with multiple infoboxes (see Sunseed Berry - that would have ‘Sunseed Berry (treasure)’ and ‘Sunseed Berry (fruit)’) 2013-12-04 19:01:28 @J the weird positioning will be because it uses an id, so more than one gives unspecified behaviour 2013-12-04 19:01:45 Espyo ah 2013-12-04 19:02:25 @J so that shouldn't be too hard, just need it on all the relevant infoboxes 2013-12-04 19:02:37 Espyo mhm 2013-12-04 19:02:39 @J the page should then call {{game icons}} directly, as Sunseed Berry already does 2013-12-04 19:02:40 Espyo so, all 2013-12-04 19:02:53 Espyo there are only like 8 infoboxes 2013-12-04 19:03:01 @J mm...how many even use the template? 2013-12-04 19:03:13 Espyo infoboxes? 2013-12-04 19:03:16 Espyo thousands 2013-12-04 19:03:43 @J 9 of them, it seems 2013-12-04 19:03:45 @J wait what 2013-12-04 19:03:50 @J no, how many infoboxes use {{game icons}} 2013-12-04 19:03:54 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Template%3AGame+icons&namespace=10 2013-12-04 19:03:55 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-04 19:04:12 @J seems that's out of 12 total 2013-12-04 19:04:31 Espyo ah 2013-12-04 19:04:32 @J also, I lied when I said 9 2013-12-04 19:05:24 @J can Testyo record do a phrase consisting of multiple words? 2013-12-04 19:08:57 <-- Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-04 19:10:25 @J well, not any more 2013-12-04 19:10:25 --> Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 19:10:25 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-04 19:12:22 @J okay, my IRC log file is 10MiB 2013-12-04 19:12:36 Espyo yeah, it can 2013-12-04 19:12:51 Espyo Testyo: record how many times this incredibly long sentence with multiple words is said by Espyo 2013-12-04 19:12:51 Testyo Done. I'm now recording how many times Espyo says this incredibly long sentence with multiple words. 2013-12-04 19:12:53 @J how do I do it again? 2013-12-04 19:12:55 @J ah 2013-12-04 19:12:55 Espyo Testyo: server 2013-12-04 19:12:55 Testyo Here's the link to my instance on the server: http://89.153.92.223:8080/Pikipedia 2013-12-04 19:13:07 @J Testyo record how many times I lied is said by J 2013-12-04 19:13:07 Testyo Done. I'm now recording how many times J says I lied. 2013-12-04 19:13:14 @J is it case-sensitive? 2013-12-04 19:13:18 Espyo no 2013-12-04 19:13:21 @J and does it match only words? 2013-12-04 19:13:25 Espyo unless you want me to, I have to set it manually 2013-12-04 19:13:28 Espyo also no 2013-12-04 19:13:31 @J hmm 2013-12-04 19:13:34 Espyo also manually settable 2013-12-04 19:13:37 @J so just 'lied' would match 'replied'? 2013-12-04 19:13:41 Espyo Testyo: why'd you take so long to give me the webpage? 2013-12-04 19:13:46 Espyo hmm 2013-12-04 19:13:48 Espyo wait 2013-12-04 19:13:53 Espyo I think by default it's the whole word 2013-12-04 19:13:59 Espyo and I can specify for it not to 2013-12-04 19:14:05 @J okay, that makes more sense 2013-12-04 19:14:09 Espyo http://89.153.92.223:8080/Pikipedia/word_records yep, 0 hits 2013-12-04 19:14:10 @J does that work with multiple words? 2013-12-04 19:14:19 @J (ie., does it match wourd boundaries at the ends of words?) 2013-12-04 19:14:20 Espyo think so, but only the first and last'd work 2013-12-04 19:14:21 Espyo let me try 2013-12-04 19:14:29 Espyo aaaaaaaaaaathis incredibly long sentence with multiple wordsaaaaaaaaaaaaa 2013-12-04 19:14:32 @J yeah, but I didn't do 'lied', I did 'I lied' 2013-12-04 19:14:36 Espyo yep, still 0 counts 2013-12-04 19:14:40 Espyo I know 2013-12-04 19:14:45 Espyo aaaaaaI liedaaaaaaa doesn't count 2013-12-04 19:14:49 @J okay 2013-12-04 19:14:52 @J good good 2013-12-04 19:14:53 Espyo neither does aaaaaaaI lied or I liedaaaaaaaa, I suppose 2013-12-04 19:15:04 Espyo but including it inside quotes must work 2013-12-04 19:15:06 Espyo 'this incredibly long sentence with multiple words' 2013-12-04 19:15:12 Espyo yep, it does count 2013-12-04 19:15:18 Espyo man, he's smarter than what I give him credit for 2013-12-04 19:17:08 <-- Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-12-04 19:21:24 @J so, I don't see you editing those infoboxes 2013-12-04 19:22:03 Espyo me? 2013-12-04 19:22:11 Espyo I have no idea how the icon things work 2013-12-04 19:22:13 Espyo it's all up to you 2013-12-04 19:22:28 @J ... 2013-12-04 19:22:38 @J it's obvious what to do from that thing I pasted here 2013-12-04 19:22:41 @J *word /late 2013-12-04 19:23:50 Espyo no no no no no 2013-12-04 19:27:16 @J Testyo can see right through you 2013-12-04 19:27:33 @J Testyo, Espyo's lying about not knowing what to do, right? 2013-12-04 19:27:41 @J ...or he sees nothing 2013-12-04 19:27:50 @J Testyo say the thing y/n 2013-12-04 19:27:52 @J fin 2013-12-04 19:27:53 @J e 2013-12-04 19:28:02 @J I see Espyo's got you locked up or something 2013-12-04 19:28:17 Espyo yep 2013-12-04 19:28:19 Espyo he's serious here 2013-12-04 19:28:23 Espyo you can always PM him 2013-12-04 19:28:29 Espyo hmmmmmm 2013-12-04 19:28:32 Espyo Testyo: serious J 2013-12-04 19:28:32 Testyo I'm not on J! 2013-12-04 19:28:36 Espyo well 2013-12-04 19:29:29 Espyo and fixed 2013-12-04 19:30:30 @J what 2013-12-04 19:30:39 @J wait, serious includes that thing? 2013-12-04 19:30:50 @J not sure it should 2013-12-04 19:31:09 Espyo you can make him serious on a specific channel 2013-12-04 19:31:17 Espyo it shouldn't work with nicknames via PM, though 2013-12-04 19:31:24 Espyo for all intents and purposes, a PM is considered a channel 2013-12-04 19:31:25 @J I mean, includes that action, the 'y/n' thing 2013-12-04 19:31:29 Espyo even the protocol doesn't care 2013-12-04 19:31:35 Espyo PRIVMSG #pikipedia: Hi 2013-12-04 19:31:39 Espyo PRIVMSG J: Hi 2013-12-04 19:31:53 Espyo serious includes that, yes 2013-12-04 19:31:57 Espyo he's meant to be serious 2013-12-04 19:31:59 Espyo not be lolrandom 2013-12-04 19:32:08 Espyo also speaking of y/n 2013-12-04 19:32:18 Espyo I /just/ made it so he'd only reply to y/n if you address him 2013-12-04 19:32:24 @J but if you direct it at him and specifically ask y/n, that should work in serious mode, right? 2013-12-04 19:32:27 Espyo not so much for the y/n itself, because nobody writes that normal 2013-12-04 19:32:31 Espyo *normally 2013-12-04 19:32:35 Espyo but for the other things 2013-12-04 19:32:45 Espyo well no, because the answer is still something random 2013-12-04 19:32:49 Espyo and the whole feature is for fun 2013-12-04 19:32:53 Espyo and seriousness is never fun 2013-12-04 19:33:02 @J seeeeeeeeeems like it 2013-12-04 19:33:14 @J he needs another mode, then 2013-12-04 19:33:19 Espyo half-serious? 2013-12-04 19:33:26 @J where he doesn't randomly say things, but does have fun things 2013-12-04 19:33:33 @J but not games and stuff? 2013-12-04 19:33:35 @J I don't know 2013-12-04 19:35:46 Espyo it's already hell to have serious mode as it is 2013-12-04 19:35:52 @J ? 2013-12-04 19:35:56 Espyo I'd rather just leave all the fun stuff over at #Testyo 2013-12-04 19:36:08 Espyo I mean the serious mode system is wonky as all hell 2013-12-04 19:36:16 Espyo hmm 2013-12-04 19:36:20 Espyo ok, I guess it's not that much 2013-12-04 19:40:25 <-- Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-04 19:40:56 --> Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 19:40:56 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-04 19:42:55 @J well, whose fault is that? 2013-12-04 19:43:15 <-- Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-04 19:43:33 Espyo but I took back what I said, it's actually not that wonky 2013-12-04 19:43:37 --> Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 19:43:37 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-04 20:17:09 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: i'll be back) 2013-12-04 20:21:31 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 20:34:52 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 21:10:45 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-04 21:10:58 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 21:10:58 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-04 21:10:58 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-04 21:10:58 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster Cactmas Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-04 21:10:58 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-12-04 21:10:58 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-04 21:10:58 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-04 21:10:59 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-04 21:10:59 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-04 22:08:02 Espyo Testyo: stats 2013-12-04 22:08:03 Testyo Current modes: serious on #Pikipedia. HTTP server is running. 103 features. 1/10 message saving chance. Timed random message every 10800 - 14400 sec. Next timed random message in 2741 sec. 1/50 caps lock complaint chance. 1/50 swear complaint chance. 1/2 copycat complaint chance. 3 aliases. 9 boredom suggestions. 12 caps lock complaints. 33 colors. 32 conversions. 2013-12-04 22:08:03 Testyo 6 copycat complaints. 444 description adjectives. 142 description powers. 242 description types. 63 dictionary entries. 0 features disabled. 125 fortunes. 45 hostnames. 7 ignored users. 0 insult adjectives. 0 insult nouns. 20 locations. 0 memos. 13 moments. 0 quotes. 3703 saved messages. 14 records 68 story 1st parts. 67 story 2nd parts. 67 story 3rd parts. 2013-12-04 22:08:04 Testyo 12 swear complaints. 37 virtual goods. 2 warnings. 14 word records. 21878 words. 12 yes/no replies. 2013-12-04 22:08:06 Espyo ugh 2013-12-04 22:09:12 Espyo that's weird 2013-12-04 22:09:18 Espyo J: do you see underlines on those stats? 2013-12-04 22:12:18 @J no 2013-12-04 22:15:59 Espyo :| 2013-12-04 22:16:05 Espyo what about _this_? 2013-12-04 22:19:32 @J no 2013-12-04 22:19:37 @J _test_ 2013-12-04 22:19:39 @J that does 2013-12-04 22:34:53 -- BetaMaster is now known as brBetaMaster 2013-12-04 22:53:13 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-04 22:53:24 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-04 22:53:24 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-04 22:53:24 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-04 22:53:24 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ brBetaMaster Cactmas Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-04 22:53:24 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-12-04 22:53:24 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-04 22:53:24 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-04 22:53:26 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-04 22:53:26 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-04 22:58:32 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-04 23:10:52 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: quit) 2013-12-05 00:18:49 --> Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 00:53:33 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-05 00:53:39 <-- Testyo (Testyo@k05-179-49-670.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-05 01:22:06 -- brBetaMaster is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-05 02:31:21 --> Yayer (Mibbit@187.158.to.zr) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 02:38:55 <-- Yayer (Mibbit@187.158.to.zr) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-05 02:41:01 --> Yayer (Mibbit@187.158.to.zr) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 02:45:08 <-- Yayer (Mibbit@187.158.to.zr) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-05 04:34:16 -- BetaMaster is now known as betasleepmaster 2013-12-05 04:44:54 -- betasleepmaster is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-05 05:55:36 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-05 07:58:05 <-- Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: splat) 2013-12-05 11:04:03 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-05 11:21:16 --> Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 11:21:16 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-05 11:27:38 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 15:01:24 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-05 15:01:28 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 16:02:27 --> Scr7| (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 16:03:45 -- Scr7| is now known as Scr7 2013-12-05 17:53:46 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-05 17:53:55 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 18:34:10 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-05 18:43:00 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-05 19:30:17 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-05 19:30:24 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 20:13:08 Espyo J: would you happen to know an algorithm to make something face a certain angle smoothly 2013-12-05 20:13:14 Espyo but the direction it chooses to turn is the shortest? 2013-12-05 20:24:59 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 21:07:48 @J just calculate both directions and choose the shortest one? 2013-12-05 21:08:15 Espyo 0 -> 360 crossover 2013-12-05 21:08:17 Espyo and vice versa 2013-12-05 21:08:32 Espyo I think I got the code down, but now it's giving problems elsewhere 2013-12-05 21:10:35 Espyo dinner now 2013-12-05 21:14:55 @J you just subtract 360 from the destination, find the nearer of the two, then do %= 360 again 2013-12-05 21:15:18 @J wait, I mean... 2013-12-05 21:15:39 @J no, that's it, just given dest in (0, 2pi], choose the nearer of dest and dest-2pi 2013-12-05 21:16:39 @J dest = min([(abs(dest - current), dest), (abs(dest - 2pi - current), dest - 2pi)])[1] 2013-12-05 21:17:54 @J then every frame, 'angle = r * (dest - angle)' for some r < 1 2013-12-05 21:19:25 @J if you want your angle to always be above 0, then maybe each frame do 'if angle < 0 { angle += 2pi; dest += 2pi }' 2013-12-05 21:27:28 --> Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 21:30:32 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-05 21:44:56 Espyo slightly more complicated than that 2013-12-05 21:45:18 Espyo first, the angle could go nuts, way above 2pi 2013-12-05 21:45:23 Espyo there's a function to normalize it, though 2013-12-05 21:45:33 Espyo secondly, C++ is /horrible/ at modulus 2013-12-05 21:45:38 Espyo no negatives allowed, no floats allowed 2013-12-05 21:46:01 Espyo but other than that, it's fairly enough what I'm doing 2013-12-05 21:46:10 Espyo something else is amiss now 2013-12-05 21:46:22 Espyo and while I don't fix that, I can't quite tell for sure if the smooth turning thing is working 2013-12-05 21:50:17 @J double mod (double x, double div) { return x - div * (int) (x / div); } 2013-12-05 21:50:19 @J does that work? 2013-12-05 21:50:31 <-- Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-05 21:50:43 @J doesn't account for div=0, obviously 2013-12-05 22:00:12 Espyo hmm 2013-12-05 22:00:23 Espyo I remember doing a "better" mod some time ago 2013-12-05 22:00:31 Espyo but I think it was just for negatives 2013-12-05 22:01:46 Espyo angle - (pi * 2) * floor(angle + pi) / (pi * 2) 2013-12-05 22:01:53 Espyo that normalizes an angle, between -pi and pi 2013-12-05 22:02:01 Espyo so no need for modulus either way 2013-12-05 22:03:26 Espyo oh... Nelson Mandela died 2013-12-05 22:04:15 Espyo yep 2013-12-05 22:10:39 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 22:15:49 @J um...that doesn't look right at all 2013-12-05 22:16:05 @J I think maybe you meant to divide by 2pi inside the floor() 2013-12-05 22:16:16 @J in which case it becomes basically my mod() function 2013-12-05 22:19:38 Espyo no no, that works 2013-12-05 22:19:46 Espyo got it from the internet 2013-12-05 22:19:51 Espyo and that part of my code works 2013-12-05 22:20:02 Espyo ok, I stripped down all I did regarding this smooth angling 2013-12-05 22:20:10 Espyo to try to understand the underlying problem 2013-12-05 22:20:13 Espyo because something else is wrong 2013-12-05 22:20:21 Espyo and from what I gather, if I set the angle directly, everything is fine 2013-12-05 22:20:36 Espyo if I call a function that sets the angle directly and nothing else... it doesn't work 2013-12-05 22:31:08 @J [22:19:38] Espyo no no, that works 2013-12-05 22:31:08 @J [22:19:46] Espyo got it from the internet 2013-12-05 22:31:13 @J got a good laugh out of that 2013-12-05 22:31:46 @J >>> angle = 0.5 * pi 2013-12-05 22:31:47 @J >>> angle - (pi * 2) * int(angle + pi) / (pi * 2) 2013-12-05 22:31:47 @J -2.4292036732051034 2013-12-05 22:31:47 @J >>> _ / pi 2013-12-05 22:31:47 @J -0.7732395447351628 2013-12-05 22:32:49 Espyo well 2013-12-05 22:32:57 Espyo can't explain why it works here then 2013-12-05 22:33:36 @J just think about it; it's complete nonsense 2013-12-05 22:33:42 @J let angle = 0 and do it in your head 2013-12-05 22:33:52 @J I get -3 2013-12-05 22:34:08 Espyo well, yeah 2013-12-05 22:34:27 Espyo I'm not trying hard enough to think about this, mind 2013-12-05 22:34:35 Espyo my brain is more focused on the general idea, atm 2013-12-05 22:34:43 Espyo it seriously can't be arsed to actually do basic math 2013-12-05 22:34:47 Espyo that happens sometimes 2013-12-05 22:53:10 --> yellow (Mibbit@m-83-01-73-155.hsd7.ga.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 22:54:00 yellow hi testyo 2013-12-05 22:54:36 yellow how are you doing 2013-12-05 22:55:21 <-- yellow (Mibbit@m-83-01-73-155.hsd7.ga.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-05 22:56:14 Espyo wait, am I even doing this right 2013-12-05 22:56:34 Espyo I want the normalized angle to be mod(0, pi * 2) - pi, right? 2013-12-05 22:57:40 Espyo I don't even anymore 2013-12-05 23:07:11 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-05 23:08:09 Espyo ok, it's really REALLY WRONG when your character spins so hard THEY DISAPPEAR 2013-12-05 23:11:25 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/teleporter%20action.gif 2013-12-05 23:14:03 Espyo oh... if your angle is infinite, you vanish from existence 2013-12-05 23:14:04 Espyo makes sense 2013-12-05 23:18:06 @J ... 2013-12-05 23:19:37 @J [22:55:01] Espyo it turned a -6 into a -9 2013-12-05 23:19:45 @J you mean mod(-6pi, 2pi)? 2013-12-05 23:19:45 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/madhouse.gif 2013-12-05 23:19:50 Espyo ok, this is going from bad to wose 2013-12-05 23:19:52 Espyo *worse 2013-12-05 23:20:00 Espyo mod(-6, 2pi) 2013-12-05 23:20:46 @J I get 0.28ish 2013-12-05 23:21:01 @J (int) x does floor, right? 2013-12-05 23:22:02 Espyo yes 2013-12-05 23:22:07 Espyo it should, and I'm pretty sure it does 2013-12-05 23:26:12 @J does it move towards 0 or towards -ve 2013-12-05 23:26:12 @J ? 2013-12-05 23:26:40 @J should be -ve 2013-12-05 23:26:51 Espyo ...-ve» 2013-12-05 23:26:53 Espyo *? 2013-12-05 23:27:06 @J in which case (int) (-6 / 2pi) should be -1 2013-12-05 23:27:16 @J but maybe (int) isn't the same as floor 2013-12-05 23:27:27 @J in which case try using floor(x / div) instead 2013-12-05 23:27:44 Espyo hm 2013-12-05 23:27:51 Espyo but I pretty much got rid of it 2013-12-05 23:27:59 Espyo I could test out the result really quick, still, but 2013-12-05 23:28:05 Espyo there's no way to "quickly test something out" in C++ 2013-12-05 23:28:10 Espyo maybe g++... 2013-12-05 23:29:00 @J yeah, tested it, it does round towards 0 2013-12-05 23:29:30 @J floor() does what we want 2013-12-05 23:29:46 Espyo ah 2013-12-05 23:30:48 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: quat) 2013-12-05 23:31:10 Espyo uh, real quick 2013-12-05 23:31:22 Espyo what do you call the "id", "style", "colspan", etc. on HTML elements? 2013-12-05 23:31:29 Espyo a property? not really sure that's the name 2013-12-05 23:32:05 @J attribute 2013-12-05 23:32:17 Espyo right 2013-12-05 23:32:18 Espyo thanks 2013-12-05 23:33:09 @J http://sprunge.us/MDeW?py 2013-12-05 23:33:13 @J found this code in some game I wrote 2013-12-05 23:33:24 @J I think it solves the same problem 2013-12-05 23:33:37 @J ...not sure if it's all there 2013-12-05 23:34:33 <-- Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-05 23:35:41 @J ignoring lines 1, 2 and 10, real_d is the target angle and dirn is the current angle 2013-12-05 23:35:46 Espyo right 2013-12-05 23:35:52 @J in radians anticlockwise from right 2013-12-05 23:36:07 Espyo right, I ended up checking if the difference is over pi 2013-12-05 23:36:20 @J ...looks kind of hacky 2013-12-05 23:36:20 Espyo *as well 2013-12-05 23:36:24 @J but I know it worked 2013-12-05 23:36:31 @J hmm, not hacky 2013-12-05 23:36:34 Espyo I see that being used on the few examples I found online 2013-12-05 23:36:37 @J 'clunky', I guess 2013-12-05 23:36:52 --> Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 23:36:52 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-05 23:36:55 Espyo hm 2013-12-05 23:37:14 @J the .1 is how slowly it moves 2013-12-05 23:37:17 Espyo right 2013-12-05 23:37:28 @J it moves 10% of the distance every frame 2013-12-05 23:37:32 Espyo ok, so right now everything is fine in theory, on my code 2013-12-05 23:37:34 @J that looked quite nice 2013-12-05 23:37:39 Espyo I need to do something more elaborate 2013-12-05 23:38:02 Espyo it must move the minimum between the rotation speed and the rotation necessary to reach the target angle 2013-12-05 23:38:21 Espyo but because my units are in angles per second, I need to extract how much to spin per frame 2013-12-05 23:38:30 Espyo which should be ridiculously easy: just divide by the framerate 2013-12-05 23:38:40 Espyo but well, that just ended up in that crazy disco I posted before 2013-12-05 23:39:07 Espyo and it is because of that, 'cause not taking into account the framerate makes the characters spin fine, but constantly 2013-12-05 23:39:12 Espyo or something like that 2013-12-05 23:39:59 @J it looks nicer to do an easing like this than to use a constant rotation speed 2013-12-05 23:40:02 @J easier, too 2013-12-05 23:40:46 Espyo but not precise enough for what I want 2013-12-05 23:41:02 Espyo I want the creator of the game to set what the rotation speed of something is 2013-12-05 23:41:09 Espyo stuff like Bulborbs are meant to spin slowly 2013-12-05 23:41:14 Espyo giving a chance to strike their behinds 2013-12-05 23:41:20 @J hmm 2013-12-05 23:41:35 @J okay, but just using a constant speed will look bad 2013-12-05 23:41:41 @J you need an acceleration 2013-12-05 23:41:57 @J but I guess that'll be easier to tweak once you have it working 2013-12-05 23:42:26 @J this is similar to dealing with friction, where you don't want the friction to be great enough to start moving the thing in the opposite direction 2013-12-05 23:42:54 @J you just cap the change in speed it causes to the current speed 2013-12-05 23:43:34 Espyo I know 2013-12-05 23:43:42 Espyo but acceleration is not used in either Pikmin game 2013-12-05 23:43:45 Espyo at least for rotations 2013-12-05 23:44:00 Espyo and yeah @friction 2013-12-05 23:44:17 <-- Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-05 23:45:20 @J not for the captains, no 2013-12-05 23:45:26 @J but enemies take a while to start moving 2013-12-05 23:45:34 Espyo hmm 2013-12-05 23:45:39 Espyo still rotation-wise? 2013-12-05 23:45:45 @J yeah 2013-12-05 23:45:45 --> Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 23:45:45 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-05 23:45:47 @J maybe 2013-12-05 23:45:53 Espyo don't think they do 2013-12-05 23:45:57 Espyo and here's my reasoning 2013-12-05 23:46:05 Espyo you know how in the title screen of P2 you can control a Bulborb? 2013-12-05 23:46:12 Espyo if you press the C-stick either left or right, he spins 2013-12-05 23:46:16 Espyo doesn't look like he has acceleration to it 2013-12-05 23:46:21 @J hmm 2013-12-05 23:46:22 Espyo and it looks just like it does in-game 2013-12-05 23:46:27 @J you think? 2013-12-05 23:46:30 Espyo still, I suppose a bit of acceleration wouldn't hurt, no 2013-12-05 23:46:36 Espyo but it'll have to be something to implement later on 2013-12-05 23:46:45 Espyo if I don't hurry up and get the rest of the engine going, I'll never get anywhere 2013-12-05 23:46:51 @J well, there's certainly a delay before moving at all 2013-12-05 23:46:58 Espyo there is, I feel that, yeah 2013-12-05 23:47:06 @J but yeah, maybe it's just the animations that make it look like acceleration 2013-12-05 23:47:09 @J anyway, I should go 2013-12-05 23:47:09 @J bye 2013-12-05 23:48:10 Espyo bye 2013-12-05 23:49:55 <-- Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-05 23:51:02 --> Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-05 23:51:02 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-05 23:52:52 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-06 00:11:19 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 00:35:06 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-06 00:35:19 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 01:03:38 --> Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 01:20:40 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-06 01:21:20 <-- Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-06 01:58:41 <-- Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-12-06 02:52:21 --> Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 04:08:41 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2013-12-06 08:40:41 <-- Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: 7) 2013-12-06 10:43:48 --> Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 10:43:48 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-06 10:46:58 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 11:57:43 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-06 12:58:59 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 13:31:46 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-06 13:39:11 <-- Cactmas (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Cactmas_))) 2013-12-06 13:39:43 --> Cactmas (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 14:37:09 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-06 17:29:50 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-06 18:32:17 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-06 20:16:19 <-- Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-06 20:17:08 --> Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 20:17:08 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-06 20:51:30 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-06 20:51:36 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 21:24:18 @J . 2013-12-06 21:33:32 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: lag) 2013-12-06 21:34:16 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 21:44:04 Espyo hey 2013-12-06 21:44:05 Espyo two things 2013-12-06 21:44:29 Espyo first, http://www.pikminwiki.com/File:Rock_Pikmin.jpg delete this please 2013-12-06 21:44:36 Espyo so I can add a replacement 2013-12-06 21:44:38 Espyo I want that filename 2013-12-06 21:47:16 @J just reupload 2013-12-06 21:47:28 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Rock_Pikmin.jpg&wpForReUpload=1 2013-12-06 21:48:07 Espyo can't 2013-12-06 21:48:12 Espyo extension is a .png 2013-12-06 21:51:39 @J uh... 2013-12-06 21:51:49 @J then why do you want to call it jpg? 2013-12-06 21:52:04 Espyo I don't 2013-12-06 21:52:07 Espyo it's the other way around 2013-12-06 21:52:11 Espyo that file is a jpg 2013-12-06 21:52:18 Espyo I want to upload a .png 2013-12-06 21:52:24 Espyo both have the same name sans extension 2013-12-06 21:53:31 @J so? 2013-12-06 21:53:49 @J has MediaWiki changed so that you can't have both? 2013-12-06 21:53:54 @J you definitely used to be able to 2013-12-06 22:02:02 Espyo yep, can't have both 2013-12-06 22:02:06 Espyo or... was it just a warning? 2013-12-06 22:02:16 Espyo also, off-topic, but http://www.pikminwiki.com/Downloadable_content 2013-12-06 22:02:53 @J probably a warning 2013-12-06 22:03:11 @J also, you said 'two things' 2013-12-06 22:03:34 Espyo second one incoming soon 2013-12-06 22:03:42 Espyo well, it says "please pick a different name" 2013-12-06 22:03:50 Espyo nothing about specifically forcing or specifically not forcing 2013-12-06 22:03:54 Espyo thought he form is not disabled 2013-12-06 22:04:12 Espyo *the 2013-12-06 22:04:14 --> Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 22:05:19 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/File:Rock_Pikmin.png so much for that 2013-12-06 22:05:23 Espyo you could still delete the jpg 2013-12-06 22:09:09 @J also, you could've just used another name 2013-12-06 22:10:47 Espyo didn't wanna 2013-12-06 22:11:18 Espyo forgot to mention, you could still delete the jpg... because it's super tiny 2013-12-06 22:11:38 Espyo second thing: 2013-12-06 22:11:45 Espyo the next Ludum Dare is just around the corner 2013-12-06 22:11:46 Espyo it's next week 2013-12-06 22:11:53 Espyo and I'm participating, I think 2013-12-06 22:12:01 Espyo unless someone tells me they'll need me this weekend 2013-12-06 22:18:50 @J already did delete it 2013-12-06 22:19:02 @J yeah, if you say so 2013-12-06 22:19:14 @J I plan to go to a local meetup for it 2013-12-06 22:19:23 @J except I have a work dinner thing on the Saturday evening 2013-12-06 22:19:53 Espyo you're doing a jam? 2013-12-06 22:22:51 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-06 22:22:59 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-06 22:24:26 @J no 2013-12-06 22:25:51 Espyo ah, just a meetup then 2013-12-06 22:26:19 Espyo I've got a few questions to ask 2013-12-06 22:26:41 Espyo would you recommend not programming on Friday, so that your brain is all ready for Saturday? 2013-12-06 22:40:10 @J not really 2013-12-06 22:40:21 @J but get a good amount of sleep 2013-12-06 22:40:48 @J in fact, programming with libraries you intend to use should keep them fresher in your mind 2013-12-06 22:41:48 @J you probably should've asked all your questions in one go, if I'm going to be so slow to answer... 2013-12-06 22:42:44 Espyo right 2013-12-06 22:42:56 Espyo uh... I actually can't think of any other question 2013-12-06 22:54:07 @J so juggling 5 balls is really hard 2013-12-06 22:55:52 @J but with the crazy thing I showed you before, I can sometimes manage as many as 15 catches, and sometimes most of them are smooth 2013-12-06 23:00:05 Espyo not bad 2013-12-06 23:00:07 Espyo needs more though 2013-12-06 23:13:15 @J of course 2013-12-06 23:14:02 @J I do this weird thing on a particular catch for some reason: instead of just moving my hand across, upturned, I move it all the way over and back under the ball first 2013-12-06 23:14:08 @J and I have no idea why and I can't stop it 2013-12-06 23:14:16 @J and that often messes up 2013-12-06 23:15:01 Espyo hah 2013-12-06 23:15:15 Espyo that's really imaginable 2013-12-06 23:22:24 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: bye) 2013-12-06 23:45:22 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-06 23:45:30 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 00:54:13 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-07 00:54:21 --> Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 01:18:48 Espyo why on earth do I have a tab with Wikipedia's article on Pythagorean Theorem? 2013-12-07 02:32:22 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-07 02:32:33 <-- Testyo (Testyo@h93-313-41-774.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-07 02:35:15 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-07 09:00:12 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 09:09:51 <-- Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-12-07 11:48:30 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-07 12:17:22 --> Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 12:17:22 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-07 12:20:22 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 13:04:04 -- Cactmas is now known as Cactmas|AFK 2013-12-07 13:36:30 -- Cactmas|AFK is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-07 16:13:52 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-07 16:14:04 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 18:22:16 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-07 18:31:57 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-07 21:32:38 --> Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 21:40:13 --> Prezintenden (Mibbit@66-43-692-89-xtkjd.superkabel.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 21:40:28 Prezintenden hey hey 2013-12-07 21:40:37 Scr7 hi hi 2013-12-07 21:40:38 Espyo hey 2013-12-07 21:40:51 Prezintenden espyo... any chance you could send me your grabber drivers? 2013-12-07 21:41:01 Espyo sure thing 2013-12-07 21:42:59 Espyo oh the cover where I keep the original driver is from http://www.notonlytv.net apparently 2013-12-07 21:43:34 Espyo the CD also comes with the installation for ulead studio 2013-12-07 21:43:37 Espyo but that's pretty meh 2013-12-07 21:43:44 Espyo VirtualDub works just fine 2013-12-07 21:44:07 Espyo I should be able to extract the drivers from this CD 2013-12-07 21:45:32 Prezintenden uh so the drivers on the site are the same you have? 2013-12-07 21:46:30 Espyo dunno, might be 2013-12-07 21:46:34 Espyo uploading atm, anyway 2013-12-07 21:46:58 Espyo normally CDs with stuff like this have a load of things 2013-12-07 21:47:03 Espyo but luckily this one was organized just nicely 2013-12-07 21:47:10 Espyo with a folder just for the driver's installer 2013-12-07 21:47:22 Espyo and no other folder had anything to do with the drivers, as is sometimes the case 2013-12-07 21:47:26 Espyo so I'm sure this is all you need 2013-12-07 21:47:29 Espyo if these drivers work, I mean 2013-12-07 21:47:33 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/Grabber%20drivers.7z 2013-12-07 21:47:56 Espyo and I've got dinner now 2013-12-07 21:48:00 Espyo brb 2013-12-07 21:48:29 Prezintenden yay thanks man 2013-12-07 21:53:13 Prezintenden ah it's the same i had before 2013-12-07 22:13:53 Prezintenden poop, nothing gets recognized 2013-12-07 22:14:11 Prezintenden I'll try it on a friends laptop in a few days when he's back 2013-12-07 22:20:34 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has left #pikipedia 2013-12-07 22:20:56 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-07 22:23:29 Espyo damn 2013-12-07 22:40:40 <-- Prezintenden (Mibbit@66-43-692-89-xtkjd.superkabel.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-08 00:22:38 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: quat) 2013-12-08 02:11:02 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-08 02:17:21 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-08 02:17:43 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-08 02:35:29 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 02:35:34 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-08 04:55:15 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 07:59:25 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 13:41:00 <-- J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-12-08 13:41:00 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-08 13:41:12 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 13:41:12 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-08 13:41:12 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-08 13:41:12 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ Cactmas Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-08 13:41:12 -- Channel #pikipedia: 8 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 7 normals) 2013-12-08 13:41:12 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-08 13:41:12 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-08 13:41:14 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-08 13:41:14 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-08 13:41:27 @J okay...what happened there? 2013-12-08 13:41:43 @J I see my own ping timeout 2013-12-08 13:41:55 @J and also it just said the time is 8am 2013-12-08 13:42:24 Espyo ...huh 2013-12-08 13:42:36 @J hmm, I think I might've pressed ctrl-a,pageup, which messed everything up 2013-12-08 13:42:46 Espyo can't quite see how that would... 2013-12-08 13:42:50 Espyo wait, what's ctrl+a on a terminal? 2013-12-08 13:42:55 @J this is in tmux 2013-12-08 13:43:02 Espyo oh 2013-12-08 13:43:13 @J in screen and tmux, shortcuts start with a special first stroke 2013-12-08 13:43:26 @J for screen, it's ctrl-a, for tmux ctrl-b but I've changed it to ctrl-a 2013-12-08 13:43:31 @J so it does _something_ 2013-12-08 13:43:34 Espyo oh 2013-12-08 13:43:37 @J but no idea what 2013-12-08 13:43:56 @J anwayw, hi 2013-12-08 13:43:57 Espyo yeah, some programs on windows have ctrl+k as a first stroke 2013-12-08 13:43:58 @J *anyway 2013-12-08 13:44:00 Espyo hi 2013-12-08 13:44:08 @J hmm, like what? 2013-12-08 13:44:20 Espyo visual studio 2013-12-08 13:44:28 Espyo I think ctrl+k, ctrl+f is format 2013-12-08 13:44:33 Espyo or rather, a poor attempt at formatting 2013-12-08 13:44:43 Espyo it just tabulates automatically, nothing else 2013-12-08 13:46:30 @J I think ctrl-k in Firefox goes to the main page for your default search engine 2013-12-08 13:46:35 @J which is kind of weird 2013-12-08 13:47:28 Espyo oh? 2013-12-08 13:47:32 Espyo but slightly useful 2013-12-08 13:47:36 Espyo uh, nope 2013-12-08 13:47:49 Espyo ctrl+k put the focus on the search engine box 2013-12-08 13:48:17 @J hmm, maybe because I don't have one of those 2013-12-08 13:48:25 Espyo oh 2013-12-08 13:49:24 Espyo lunch 2013-12-08 14:23:49 Espyo ok, so how do we GMTians handle the Ludum Dare schedule? 2013-12-08 14:25:55 @J start on Saturday, whenever you get up 2013-12-08 14:26:00 @J it's like 2am, isn't it? 2013-12-08 14:26:19 Espyo 2am on Saturday? 2013-12-08 14:26:22 Espyo haven't checked 2013-12-08 14:26:37 @J that's what it usually is 2013-12-08 14:26:51 Espyo starts in 11 hours (and 5 days) 2013-12-08 14:26:57 Espyo so yeah, 2AM 2013-12-08 14:27:22 Espyo hm, then it ends Monday at 2AM, right? 2013-12-08 14:29:54 @J yeah 2013-12-08 14:30:23 Espyo oh, so it's no big deal 2013-12-08 14:30:34 Espyo we wake up on Saturday, work, then Sunday, work 2013-12-08 14:30:38 Espyo we have 2 days just like anyone else 2013-12-08 14:30:47 Espyo 2 "awake" days, I mean 2013-12-08 14:30:54 Espyo ok, good 2013-12-08 14:30:58 Espyo oh, another thing 2013-12-08 14:31:11 Espyo the rules state that you can use existing code, but you have to share it on a blog post 2013-12-08 14:31:45 Espyo so, do I have to share it before I start, does it have to be something specifically aimed towards helping everybody, or can it just be a snippet of code I made a long time ago to do something tiny, or...? 2013-12-08 14:32:41 @J yes, pretty sure you're meant to declare any code before you start 2013-12-08 14:32:54 Espyo right 2013-12-08 14:33:02 Espyo though, I'm not sure about what I'm gonna use 2013-12-08 14:33:03 @J speaking of which, you've just reminded me to do that 2013-12-08 14:33:21 Espyo I made some quick functions to split words, trim trailing spaces, etc. in C++ 2013-12-08 14:33:28 Espyo but there are dozens of them 2013-12-08 14:33:31 Espyo do I have to share it all? 2013-12-08 14:33:34 Espyo I don't mind sharing, of course 2013-12-08 14:33:55 Espyo but 80% of my distribution content is gonna be random code that could or could not be useful 2013-12-08 14:34:13 Espyo or is it just that for something so pathetically simple as a split function, it's really not necessary? 2013-12-08 14:44:03 @J I would say more significant pieces of code 2013-12-08 14:44:10 @J little functions, not so much 2013-12-08 14:44:27 @J of course, those things already exist in most languages 2013-12-08 14:46:38 Espyo right 2013-12-08 14:48:08 @J TBH, it's really more about what you feel is necessary 2013-12-08 14:48:32 @J everything's done in good faith, and it's all just for fun 2013-12-08 14:49:11 Espyo right, right 2013-12-08 15:58:13 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-08 15:58:24 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 15:58:24 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-08 15:58:24 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-08 15:58:24 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ Cactmas Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-08 15:58:24 -- Channel #pikipedia: 8 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 7 normals) 2013-12-08 15:58:24 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-08 15:58:24 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-08 15:58:25 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-08 15:58:25 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-08 16:02:03 Espyo >Registration confirmed. You can now use your credentials to enter in this site. 2013-12-08 16:02:09 Espyo oh, thanks for giving me that notice in bright red 2013-12-08 16:02:15 Espyo thought it was an error for a second 2013-12-08 16:11:31 @J wait, you mean you never even signed up before? 2013-12-08 16:12:39 Espyo nope 2013-12-08 16:13:36 @J disgusterous 2013-12-08 16:13:47 Espyo thank you 2013-12-08 16:13:48 @J and I don't even know what kind of word that is 2013-12-08 16:13:48 Espyo I think 2013-12-08 16:14:10 Espyo dipterous <— Firefox offers this as a spelling suggestion 2013-12-08 16:22:47 @J did not mean 2013-12-08 16:22:49 @J that 2013-12-08 16:34:15 Espyo how do I find LD-related blog posts from other people? 2013-12-08 16:41:43 @J just go to the main page 2013-12-08 16:47:38 Espyo ...the one thing I didn't try 2013-12-08 16:47:41 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-08 16:47:51 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 17:08:04 --> Yayer (Mibbit@187.158.vv.yvr) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 17:13:44 <-- Yayer (Mibbit@187.158.vv.yvr) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-08 17:42:07 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by salad!Mibbit@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com))) 2013-12-08 17:42:45 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 18:32:30 Espyo ok, funny but stressing scenario 2013-12-08 18:32:46 Espyo the way Pikmin follow the leader is kinda as follows: there's a spot they all gather around 2013-12-08 18:32:50 Espyo that spot follows the leader like a dog 2013-12-08 18:32:59 Espyo and the Pikmin follow the spot 2013-12-08 18:33:14 Espyo to implement the C-stick movement, I just move the spot to another place 2013-12-08 18:33:27 Espyo and when the C-stick is released, the spot goes back to chasing the captain 2013-12-08 18:33:42 Espyo the problem is, when the C-stick is held all the way, say, to the right, the spot teleports there 2013-12-08 18:33:58 Espyo and the Pikmin, that used to be near the captain, start making their way to the right, which is still around 2 seconds away 2013-12-08 18:34:19 Espyo when I release the C-stick, the spot starts chasing the captain, which happens in a smooth movement (i.e. no teleport) 2013-12-08 18:34:30 Espyo while the spot is making its way back, the Pikmin are still going right to chase the spot 2013-12-08 18:34:43 Espyo only when the spot and Pikmin meet halfway through do the Pikmin actually turn back 2013-12-08 18:34:59 Espyo so basically: if I hold the C-stick right, the Pikmin go right, but when I release it, they take a bit to come back 2013-12-08 18:35:14 Espyo if I make the spot's chasing speed infinite, that solves that, but creates another problem 2013-12-08 18:35:30 Espyo when the captain's walking around, the spot just instantly jumps around 2013-12-08 18:35:42 Espyo and you can tell by the Pikmin brutely changing direction 2013-12-08 18:36:37 @J I think I'd have to see it to get how it looks bad 2013-12-08 18:37:11 Espyo ok then 2013-12-08 18:37:27 @J maybe have each Pikmin pick a point somewhere near the spot, and if, when the spot moves, that's still a valid point, it doesn't change destination 2013-12-08 18:37:56 Espyo ............................... 2013-12-08 18:38:00 Espyo then there's ANOTHER thing I don't get 2013-12-08 18:38:06 Espyo somehow, magically, it assumes 1 = 0.5 2013-12-08 18:38:10 Espyo don't know where 2013-12-08 18:38:22 Espyo normally, when you move Pikmin all the way with the C-stick, they go as far as the cursor can reach 2013-12-08 18:38:29 Espyo except sometimes they go halfway 2013-12-08 18:38:33 Espyo that's a problem for another time 2013-12-08 18:40:34 Espyo woah clunky framerate 2013-12-08 18:41:02 @J maybe they get tired 2013-12-08 18:41:05 @J and stop for a rest 2013-12-08 18:41:32 Espyo that's not how you make mindless slaves at all 2013-12-08 18:42:16 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/spot.wmv ignore the framerate 2013-12-08 18:42:36 Espyo the red dot represents the group's center 2013-12-08 18:42:41 Espyo the so called spot I talked aout 2013-12-08 18:42:42 Espyo *about 2013-12-08 18:42:55 Espyo notice how the spot moves jerkily and how the Pikmin do as well 2013-12-08 18:43:19 Espyo to make it so the Pikmin aren't always glued to Olimar's center, I made the spot follow the captain, but if the leader is too close, to not move 2013-12-08 18:43:45 Espyo just like in the actual games: if you have a group around you and you walk amongst them, they won't move 2013-12-08 18:43:54 Espyo but once you make a certain distance the group will start moving 2013-12-08 18:46:00 Espyo for comparison, here's how it is with the spot moving smoothly https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/spot2.wmv 2013-12-08 18:46:24 Espyo hmm 2013-12-08 18:46:50 Espyo I might make it so that if you let go the C-stick, the spot instantly goes to the edge of the "don't follow" range 2013-12-08 18:47:32 Espyo problem is I'm gonna have to create a new variable just to know what the previous C-stick value was, to compare if the stick's been released 2013-12-08 18:47:49 Espyo I can't just do that on the event handling part because there are too many ways to control the group in terms of input 2013-12-08 18:48:10 Espyo holding space to make them follow the cursor, joystick axis left, right, up, down, to make them follow that direction and ignore the cursor, ... 2013-12-08 18:48:23 Espyo but as everybody knows, creating more variables is poop 2013-12-08 18:49:00 @J eating dinner, I'll read the stuff in a bit 2013-12-08 18:49:05 Espyo mhm 2013-12-08 18:59:19 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-12-08 19:01:59 @J the Pikmin don't look that jerky to me 2013-12-08 19:02:15 Espyo they're jerky enough for me to not like it 2013-12-08 19:02:27 @J you mean just starting and stopping? 2013-12-08 19:02:31 @J or the fact they all move together? 2013-12-08 19:02:42 Espyo no, all moving together is kinda natural 2013-12-08 19:02:45 Espyo gotta kinda fix that later 2013-12-08 19:02:47 Espyo I mean when they turn 2013-12-08 19:03:00 Espyo you see them quickly change direction, and not smoothly 2013-12-08 19:03:18 @J [18:46:50] Espyo I might make it so that if you let go the C-stick, the spot instantly goes to the 2013-12-08 19:03:18 @J edge of the "don't follow" range 2013-12-08 19:03:22 @J what does this mean? 2013-12-08 19:03:34 Espyo hang on, I did just that, and I'll record a bit 2013-12-08 19:03:45 @J okay, so just make the spot move smoothly? 2013-12-08 19:04:13 Espyo I must make the spot move smoothly when it's following the captain, so that the Pikmin don't change direction jerkily 2013-12-08 19:04:24 Espyo but when it's regarding the C-stick, the spot should move instantly 2013-12-08 19:04:31 Espyo I'll show you the final thing, it's all working well now 2013-12-08 19:05:27 Espyo gaah, what is it with this framerate? 2013-12-08 19:06:39 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/spot_final.wmv 2013-12-08 19:09:47 @J oh, I didn't see that spot2 video 2013-12-08 19:11:07 @J I didn't mean make it move to its destination smoothly, but when following the captain, it should be updated more often 2013-12-08 19:11:30 @J but yeah, that one looks okay 2013-12-08 19:11:45 Espyo it's not updated normally 2013-12-08 19:11:48 @J though the solution sounds like the sort of thing that causes unexpected problems further down the line 2013-12-08 19:11:52 Espyo it uses the same code mobs use to chase stuff 2013-12-08 19:12:02 Espyo the spot chases Olimar, so it goes with its natural speed 2013-12-08 19:12:36 @J I don't understand why that means it only updates infrequently 2013-12-08 19:12:48 @J the destination only updates infrequently, that is 2013-12-08 19:13:01 Espyo because it won't update unless Olimar is out of range 2013-12-08 19:13:20 Espyo I can cook something up that makes understanding this a lot better 2013-12-08 19:19:19 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/spot_explain.wmv 2013-12-08 19:19:32 Espyo also the spot and its "don't chase" radius are grey now 2013-12-08 19:19:38 Espyo sure is better than red 2013-12-08 19:21:23 @J so update it every frame Olimar moves 2013-12-08 19:22:01 Espyo it's not so much me telling it where to put the spot on each frame 2013-12-08 19:22:11 Espyo as it is the spot being programmed to follow Olimar 2013-12-08 19:22:19 Espyo but either way, it does update every frame 2013-12-08 19:22:34 Espyo the problem was with the C-stick, making the spot slowly move back to Olimar caused some delay on the Pikmin's movement 2013-12-08 19:23:18 @J yes, I get how it works, and I'm questioning why it needs to work like that 2013-12-08 19:23:32 @J but I guess it doesn't really matter any more 2013-12-08 19:23:59 Espyo I could tell the Pikmin to go to the group spot, but offset the position to whatever the C-stick tells them 2013-12-08 19:24:19 Espyo but the chase algorithm already takes into account a point plus an offset 2013-12-08 19:24:21 @J it should just be a case of: every frame, if the c-sticks held put the spot there, if not put it a set distance behind Olimar 2013-12-08 19:24:24 Espyo and adding another offset on top of that... 2013-12-08 19:24:40 Espyo yep, that's what I ended up doing 2013-12-08 19:25:00 @J *c-stick's 2013-12-08 19:25:01 Espyo the difficulty was that if the C-stick is not being held, the spot should chase Olimar naturally 2013-12-08 19:25:04 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 19:25:14 Espyo I had to make it so that if it's the first frame in which you release, THEN the spot's put near Olimar 2013-12-08 19:25:33 Espyo normal chase = too slow, teleport = too jerky 2013-12-08 19:25:43 @J don't you want to put it near Olimar every frame the c-stick isn't held? 2013-12-08 19:25:47 @J not just the first frame 2013-12-08 19:25:53 Espyo so I had to make it chase on normal circumstances, but when the group isn't meant to follow the C-stick any more, teleport 2013-12-08 19:26:06 Espyo I do, but that's controlled by the chasing 2013-12-08 19:26:11 Espyo and not me manually placing it there instantly 2013-12-08 19:26:54 @J well, that's exactly my point, once again 2013-12-08 19:27:00 @J why does it have to use the chase logic? 2013-12-08 19:27:08 @J it seems a very simple case so there's no point 2013-12-08 19:27:23 Espyo well, one simple reason 2013-12-08 19:27:33 Espyo when you're on the group spot's radius, the group spot can't move 2013-12-08 19:27:44 Espyo remember how in the games, if you move amongst the group, the group doesn't move? 2013-12-08 19:28:03 Espyo it's easier to just consider the group spot a mob and give it a chase algorithm, with a set radius that makes it stop chasing 2013-12-08 19:28:25 Espyo otherwise... yeah, just updating the position every time to be near Olimar works fine 2013-12-08 19:28:48 @J hmm, I see 2013-12-08 19:29:31 Espyo the whole group movement is still not exactly how it is in the games, but... 2013-12-08 19:29:32 Espyo it's close enough 2013-12-08 19:29:46 Espyo I can't tell for sure how it works in the games, and it's not super deterministic 2013-12-08 19:29:52 Espyo they just kinda "meh, whatever, I'll move" 2013-12-08 20:02:26 Espyo uh, I forgot how this is solved 2013-12-08 20:02:52 Espyo I want 799.999/800 to be 0, 800/800 to be 0, and 800.001/800 to be 1 2013-12-08 20:03:04 Espyo it involves ceilings and floors, I think, but I'm not seeing how 2013-12-08 20:09:43 Espyo I think there's no way 2013-12-08 20:14:31 Espyo oh, got it now 2013-12-08 20:14:37 Espyo I wanted a ceiling of the division, minus 1 2013-12-08 20:14:48 Espyo I did that, but I also did it to stuff I shouldn't, and I assumed everything was wrong 2013-12-08 21:48:20 Espyo ...I detest batch on Windows 2013-12-08 21:48:24 Espyo GAH! 2013-12-08 21:48:28 Espyo I capitalized the W! 2013-12-08 21:48:31 Espyo I NEVER do that 2013-12-08 21:48:37 Espyo what's wrong with me? 2013-12-08 22:09:46 @J with those examples, I was going to suggest 'result = x > 800' 2013-12-08 22:10:06 @J I thought you had Git Bash? 2013-12-08 22:19:38 Espyo I do, using it now 2013-12-08 22:20:18 Espyo hmm, it's considering "nit\ase.szs 0.rarc" as C:\\Users\\Andre\\Desktop\\Pik\\user\\Mukki\\mapunits\\arcase.szs 0.rarc" 2013-12-08 22:20:23 Espyo ... 2013-12-08 22:20:34 Espyo hmm, it's considering "$nit\$ase.szs 0.rarc" as C:\\Users\\Andre\\Desktop\\Pik\\user\\Mukki\\mapunits\\arc$ase.szs 0.rarc" 2013-12-08 22:20:37 Espyo ......... 2013-12-08 22:20:57 Espyo hmm, it's considering "&unit\&base.szs 0.rarc" as C:\\Users\\Andre\\Desktop\\Pik\\user\\Mukki\\mapunits\\arc&base.szs 0.rarc" 2013-12-08 22:21:00 Espyo (those & are $) 2013-12-08 22:21:06 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-08 22:22:31 @J you need \\ 2013-12-08 22:22:39 Espyo but 2013-12-08 22:22:39 @J also use / instead 2013-12-08 22:22:43 Espyo the previous commands didn't need it 2013-12-08 22:22:47 Espyo ah, right, / is better 2013-12-08 22:22:52 @J /c/stuff 2013-12-08 22:23:35 Espyo well, different error 2013-12-08 22:24:24 Espyo http://pastebin.com/FnXgc2wx how wrong is this? 2013-12-08 22:24:47 Espyo it claims this error: 2013-12-08 22:24:53 Espyo rm: cannot remove `C:/Users/Andre/Desktop/Pik/user/Mukki/mapunits/arc/.szs 0.rar c': No such file or directory 2013-12-08 22:28:07 @J what's fullpath? 2013-12-08 22:29:19 @J also that will only loop over one thing 2013-12-08 22:30:01 @J filename="${fullpath##*/}" - seems to do 'filename=$(basename "$fullpath")' 2013-12-08 22:31:16 Espyo I got it offline 2013-12-08 22:31:22 Espyo it's needed in order to get the filename sans extension 2013-12-08 22:31:37 @J also you changed to $unit dir then used it in the path 2013-12-08 22:32:06 @J no, that's the other line 2013-12-08 22:32:44 @J anyway, you probably meant to do /arc/* at the end of the first string 2013-12-08 22:33:32 @J the cd stuff is weird 2013-12-08 22:34:38 @J still not entirely sure what you're trying to do 2013-12-08 22:38:20 Espyo everything is weird... 2013-12-08 22:39:00 Espyo the arc folder has cap_conc/arc.szs, cap_kusachi/arc.szs, etc. 2013-12-08 22:40:23 Espyo I want to use yaz0dec.exe to extract all of those .szs files 2013-12-08 22:40:42 Espyo in order to do it, I must first run yaz0dec.exe, then rarcdump.exe 2013-12-08 22:40:54 Espyo finally, I want to delete the excess .rarc file it creates 2013-12-08 22:44:01 @J for f in .../Mukki/mapunits/arc/*/arc.szs; do 2013-12-08 22:44:01 @J yaz0dec "$f" 2013-12-08 22:44:01 @J rarcdump "$f 0.rarc" 2013-12-08 22:44:01 @J rm "$f 0.rarc" 2013-12-08 22:44:01 @J done 2013-12-08 22:44:44 @J could make something nicer, though 2013-12-08 22:44:56 Espyo oh, but yaz0dec creates a file... 2013-12-08 22:45:01 Espyo hm, it's like this, IIRC: 2013-12-08 22:45:12 Espyo arc.szs -> yaz0dec 2013-12-08 22:45:28 Espyo yaz0dec creates a arc.szs 0.rarc 2013-12-08 22:45:35 Espyo arc.szs 0.rarc -> rarcdump 2013-12-08 22:45:42 Espyo rarcdump creates the folder with content 2013-12-08 22:45:57 Espyo ...wait, it doesn't matter in this case 2013-12-08 22:46:06 Espyo because it's always called arc.szs 0.rarc 2013-12-08 22:46:27 Espyo but what if the name of the .szs varied, as was the case with the treasure hoard icons? 2013-12-08 22:47:12 @J find . -name '*.szs' | while read f; do 2013-12-08 22:47:12 @J yaz0dec "$f" 2013-12-08 22:47:12 @J rarcdump "$f 0.rarc" 2013-12-08 22:47:12 @J rm "$f 0.rarc" 2013-12-08 22:47:12 @J done 2013-12-08 22:47:33 @J replace '.' with whatever directory you want to search 2013-12-08 22:47:39 Espyo hmmm 2013-12-08 22:47:41 Espyo I see 2013-12-08 22:48:22 @J untested, though 2013-12-08 22:48:45 @J it might be easier to follow if I replace the first line with 2013-12-08 22:48:55 @J for f in "$(find . -name '*.szs')"; do 2013-12-08 22:52:44 Espyo I'll test in a bit, Brawling right now 2013-12-08 22:59:01 @J anyway, got to go 2013-12-08 22:59:27 @J Bash is a bit of a crazy thing with silly stuff, but if you learn most of it, it makes lots of things very quick and easy to automate 2013-12-08 23:00:03 @J but also all the coreutils you get 2013-12-08 23:00:07 @J *gone* 2013-12-08 23:01:10 Espyo bye 2013-12-08 23:03:58 --> Gamefreak (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-08 23:16:22 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: zZzZ) 2013-12-08 23:49:12 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-09 02:13:55 Testyo that could make a VM to test things 2013-12-09 02:41:06 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-09 02:41:13 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-09 02:42:00 --> Yayer (Mibbit@187.158.xt.smu) has joined 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<-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-09 04:38:17 -- Gamefreak is now known as Gamefreak75 2013-12-09 07:13:04 -- CactmaSleep is now known as CactmasAway 2013-12-09 08:05:43 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: thud) 2013-12-09 14:06:02 --> Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-09 14:06:02 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-09 14:10:09 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-09 15:48:33 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-09 16:34:20 -- CactmasAway is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-09 19:05:05 Espyo ok, this isn't working 2013-12-09 19:05:09 Espyo ping me when you're around, J 2013-12-09 19:14:58 -- Cactmas is now known as Cactmas|AFK 2013-12-09 19:39:47 Espyo wait, I think I might've got it 2013-12-09 19:44:56 -- Cactmas|AFK is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-09 19:46:22 @J . 2013-12-09 20:25:44 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-09 20:25:56 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-09 20:25:56 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-09 20:25:56 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-09 20:25:56 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ Cactmas Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-09 20:25:56 -- Channel #pikipedia: 8 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 7 normals) 2013-12-09 20:25:56 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-09 20:25:56 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-09 20:25:57 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-09 20:25:57 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-09 20:27:08 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-09 20:28:02 Espyo ah, yes 2013-12-09 20:28:17 Espyo find ".../Mukki/mapunits/arc/" -name '*.szs' | while read f; do 2013-12-09 20:28:18 Espyo that worked just fine 2013-12-09 20:47:49 Espyo mv "$f" "$f/../.." should supposedly move the item 2 folders up 2013-12-09 20:47:52 Espyo but it only moves one 2013-12-09 20:47:59 Espyo meh, at this point, I can't even complain 2013-12-09 20:49:13 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-09 20:55:21 @J it moves it _into_ the folder 2 up 2013-12-09 20:55:26 @J which moves it up one 2013-12-09 20:55:48 Espyo ah, fair enough 2013-12-09 20:56:25 @J mv behaviour depends on if the destination exists 2013-12-09 20:57:18 Espyo oh 2013-12-09 20:57:43 Espyo anyway, after a whole bunch of scripts, that folder is finally the way I want it 2013-12-09 20:57:55 Espyo now I can start taking screenshots of all of these cave map units 2013-12-09 20:57:58 Espyo ...all 216 of them 2013-12-09 21:05:44 @J fun 2013-12-09 21:09:21 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/cap.7z what do you think? 2013-12-09 21:09:34 Espyo my idea is to have a gallery somewhere on the wiki with these 2013-12-09 21:09:45 Espyo so there's some way to know the possible parts that can appear on any given cave 2013-12-09 21:10:05 Espyo because there's 216 of them, I'll make most of them 96xsomething, or somethingx96 2013-12-09 21:10:09 Espyo whatever looks better 2013-12-09 21:10:29 Espyo mostly something_larger_than_96 x 96 or 96 x something_larger_than_96 2013-12-09 21:10:33 Espyo keeping the aspect ratio 2013-12-09 21:16:15 @J hard to tell what some of them are, but sure 2013-12-09 21:16:17 @J why 96? 2013-12-09 21:16:44 Espyo 64 was too tiny 2013-12-09 21:16:47 Espyo 128 was too big 2013-12-09 21:17:04 Espyo I think they're understood easily 2013-12-09 21:17:18 Espyo you can't see details, like the fact that cap_toy has a toy pine tree made of wood on the top-right 2013-12-09 21:17:36 Espyo (ok, you wouldn't see that regardless of the resolution, 'cause this is taken from above) 2013-12-09 21:17:45 @J I would've gone larger 2013-12-09 21:17:47 Espyo but it's good enough to see what they are, what their theme is, etc. 2013-12-09 21:17:55 Espyo I don't want to strain the wiki's database 2013-12-09 21:18:02 @J pfft, don't worry about that 2013-12-09 21:18:07 @J MarioWiki is on the same host 2013-12-09 21:18:10 Espyo plus I don't know how good of a job PNGCrush'd do? 2013-12-09 21:18:11 Espyo really? 2013-12-09 21:18:14 @J yes 2013-12-09 21:18:16 Espyo oh, ok then 2013-12-09 21:18:18 Espyo 128 it is 2013-12-09 21:19:33 @J PNGCrush, no idea 2013-12-09 21:19:55 @J not sure how it works for Windows, but I recall using some option to brute force it for slightly better results before 2013-12-09 21:20:30 @J I personally use Trimage, and I believe there's something similar for Windows (PNGMonster?) 2013-12-09 21:20:46 @J you might also find JPEG gives better results with these sorts of images 2013-12-09 21:20:52 @J for which there's jpegoptim 2013-12-09 21:21:06 Espyo hmm 2013-12-09 21:21:18 Espyo lemme pick a random one and try a JPG 2013-12-09 21:21:23 Espyo I'll use 100% quality JPG though 2013-12-09 21:21:32 @J 80 generally looks fine 2013-12-09 21:21:46 @J I would try a few and see if you can actually tell the difference 2013-12-09 21:21:55 Espyo wow, roughly half the size, at 100% 2013-12-09 21:22:10 @J it's those last few % that add quite a bit of extra size for not much gain 2013-12-09 21:27:15 Espyo yeah, but 2013-12-09 21:27:30 Espyo ugh, 80% is starting to give too many artifacts 2013-12-09 21:28:11 Espyo 90% works 2013-12-09 21:30:06 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/cap.7z ? 2013-12-09 21:31:46 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-09 21:31:52 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-09 21:32:16 Espyo dinner 2013-12-09 21:42:25 @J I usually use 85 for screenshots, I think 2013-12-09 21:42:38 @J but maybe the number means different things in different programs 2013-12-09 21:43:04 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-09 21:43:23 @J those look fine 2013-12-09 21:44:03 @J I save a few KiB using jpegoptim 2013-12-09 22:13:03 Espyo should be a command line program on windows, so no prob using it 2013-12-09 22:25:04 @J have you done the Ludum Dare theme voting? 2013-12-09 22:26:18 Espyo mhm 2013-12-09 22:26:21 Espyo stage 1, at least 2013-12-09 22:26:31 @J there's one every day 2013-12-09 22:26:34 Espyo oh, round 2's open 2013-12-09 22:26:49 Espyo right, but I checked like two times today and it was only still round 1 2013-12-09 22:26:54 Espyo even though I voted on round 1 yesterday 2013-12-09 22:27:01 Espyo I also voted some on the slaughter 2013-12-09 22:28:16 Espyo >Bieber 4Evar <3 2013-12-09 22:28:18 Espyo akshdaskjdauksjdyaisdy what 2013-12-09 22:28:35 Espyo I don't even know WHAT to vote for that one 2013-12-09 23:05:38 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: quat) 2013-12-09 23:24:26 --> Gamefreak75 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08:42:41 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: swoop) 2013-12-10 11:19:36 --> Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 11:19:37 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-10 11:25:34 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 12:26:22 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-10 12:26:32 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-10 13:39:14 --> Espyo (Mibbit@oqui15.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 14:51:09 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@oqui15.dei.isep.ipp.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-10 15:09:24 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-10 15:57:26 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 16:23:46 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 16:41:41 --> WikiGuest (Mibbit@o-23-453-962-60.hsd5.nj.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 16:46:42 <-- WikiGuest (Mibbit@o-23-453-962-60.hsd5.nj.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-10 17:17:27 --> Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 17:17:27 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-10 17:17:40 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-10 17:17:51 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 17:28:46 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: switching clients) 2013-12-10 17:30:21 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 17:53:27 --> Prezintenden (Mibbit@35-50-455-96-ladvb.superkabel.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 18:01:52 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: testing client) 2013-12-10 18:02:25 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 18:03:23 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-10 18:03:58 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 18:55:01 <-- Prezintenden (Mibbit@35-50-455-96-ladvb.superkabel.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-10 20:55:36 @J [23:31:30] Espyo room_5x5a_2_tekiF_kusachi is a dupe of room_5x5a_2_kusachi 2013-12-10 20:55:41 @J sure it's an exact duplicate? 2013-12-10 20:55:47 @J or it just looks the same? 2013-12-10 21:08:06 @J hey...does YouTube suddenly not really work for you? 2013-12-10 21:08:26 @J there was a flash player update today, so I'm wondering if it's that or YT 2013-12-10 21:08:59 @J well, works, in Chromium, so probably flash 2013-12-10 21:09:01 @J time to downgrade 2013-12-10 21:15:20 @J ooh, there was also a Firefox update; maybe that broke it 2013-12-10 21:16:23 @J http://gparted.org/news.php?item=170 2013-12-10 21:16:28 @J online resizing - that's pretty nice 2013-12-10 21:42:45 Espyo I see a few dupes 2013-12-10 21:42:57 Espyo and what I think is that while the geometry is the same, the configs are not 2013-12-10 21:43:01 Espyo haven't checked, but it makes sense 2013-12-10 21:43:12 Espyo specially for stuff like item_cap_toy and cap_toy 2013-12-10 21:43:26 Espyo (not 100% sure if those 2 exist, but a lot of them exist with that nomenclature) 2013-12-10 21:43:41 Espyo they have the same geometry, but the item_ one must have an item (egg) in the middle 2013-12-10 21:44:09 Espyo I've been using the same version of Flash for months now 2013-12-10 21:44:15 Espyo it's too slow with the most recent one 2013-12-10 21:44:31 Espyo wow, online resizing 2013-12-10 21:44:45 Espyo can't see how the OS would blindly trust a web browser like that 2013-12-10 21:56:27 Espyo anyway, I think I found a couple of unused units 2013-12-10 21:56:45 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 21:57:02 Espyo 3 2013-12-10 21:57:10 Espyo I'm gonna check the in-game files to see if they're used 2013-12-10 22:01:58 Espyo wait a minute... 2013-12-10 22:02:00 Espyo ch_MUKI_oootakara.txt 2013-12-10 22:02:06 Espyo the ch_ prefix means challenge mode 2013-12-10 22:02:11 Espyo oootakara is the Titan Dweevil 2013-12-10 22:08:52 @J uh... 2013-12-10 22:09:04 @J yeah, not that type of 'online' 2013-12-10 22:09:12 @J 'online' as in it's currently mounted and in use 2013-12-10 22:09:57 @J [21:57:10] Espyo I'm gonna check the in-game files to see if they're used 2013-12-10 22:10:06 Espyo oh 2013-12-10 22:10:08 @J for this sort of thing, you should really check out ag 2013-12-10 22:10:10 Espyo fair enough 2013-12-10 22:10:14 @J aka. the silver searcher 2013-12-10 22:10:22 Espyo hmm 2013-12-10 22:10:37 @J you've probably already done it, but it seems like a good time to bring it up 2013-12-10 22:10:44 Espyo I was just thinking of downloading the cave info files and finding references to those units on the files 2013-12-10 22:10:50 Espyo though I can't really find the cave data files 2013-12-10 22:11:59 Espyo well, it seems useful, but I rarely need to search my files for stuff 2013-12-10 22:12:05 Espyo and when I do, it's inside visual studio 2013-12-10 22:13:45 @J how does VS do at that? 2013-12-10 22:13:57 Espyo ...horrible 2013-12-10 22:14:03 @J don't really use an IDE, so I use this for searching instead 2013-12-10 22:14:08 Espyo right 2013-12-10 22:14:14 Espyo and not really just speed related horrible 2013-12-10 22:14:16 Espyo all-around horrible 2013-12-10 22:14:17 @J and sometimes I want to search in 3rd party code - download the source to a library I'm using 2013-12-10 22:14:20 Espyo just like VS itself 2013-12-10 22:14:23 Espyo right 2013-12-10 22:14:32 Espyo could be useful to search in other places too 2013-12-10 22:14:40 @J the thing an IDE can add, though, is links to the source in the results 2013-12-10 22:14:56 Espyo yeah 2013-12-10 22:15:06 Espyo VS can take up to 5 seconds to search everything 2013-12-10 22:15:19 Espyo and the worst part is that if I change something on the current file and tell it to search for the next result 2013-12-10 22:15:25 Espyo it retries the current document 2013-12-10 22:16:01 @J you're talking one of your projects, with like 10 files? 2013-12-10 22:16:57 Espyo (it depends more on the amount of code, not so much the amount of files) 2013-12-10 22:16:58 Espyo yeah 2013-12-10 22:17:04 @J yeah, of course 2013-12-10 22:17:07 Espyo (also they average at 11 files now, not 10) 2013-12-10 22:17:11 @J hmm, in that case ag will be instant 2013-12-10 22:17:16 Espyo yeah 2013-12-10 22:17:52 @J I use it at work, and it takes about 5s, and the repository has ~2000 files (or 40000 if you include all the generated non-code files) 2013-12-10 22:19:42 @J mm, sometimes I use it on my entire home directory 2013-12-10 22:20:06 @J because I remember some text from a file, but can't remember where the file is 2013-12-10 22:21:55 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Espyo anyway, I don't think the author even recognizes windows as an OS 2013-12-10 22:22:55 Espyo can't blame them, but... 2013-12-10 22:23:06 @J there's a version somewhere for Windows 2013-12-10 22:23:09 @J I've used it 2013-12-10 22:23:42 @J http://blog.kowalczyk.info/software/the-silver-searcher-for-windows.html 2013-12-10 22:23:46 @J that looks pretty recent 2013-12-10 22:24:26 Espyo oh, Notepad++ took just shy of 2 seconds 2013-12-10 22:24:41 @J it has searching in multiple files? 2013-12-10 22:24:48 Espyo mhm 2013-12-10 22:24:53 Espyo also a weird thing 2013-12-10 22:25:11 Espyo it has a checkbox titled "Follow current document" 2013-12-10 22:25:30 Espyo I think you're meant to check that to automatically fill in the folder textbox with the directory of the currently open file 2013-12-10 22:25:47 Espyo but I think it fills the textbox with the directory of the last "search in files" search you did 2013-12-10 22:25:55 Espyo consufing 2013-12-10 22:25:59 Espyo confusing as well 2013-12-10 22:26:10 Espyo anyway, let me send you this unit, see if you remember it 2013-12-10 22:26:25 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/way4_toy.jpg 2013-12-10 22:26:28 Espyo it's from toybox levels 2013-12-10 22:26:43 Espyo that's a screenshot of how the map unit is seen from the top 2013-12-10 22:27:16 @J hmm, is the blue meant to be transparent? 2013-12-10 22:27:23 Espyo (purple) 2013-12-10 22:27:26 Espyo it's background 2013-12-10 22:27:30 @J if you say so 2013-12-10 22:27:40 Espyo bmdview chose that color as the background 2013-12-10 22:27:41 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/bmdview2%202013-12-10%2022-27-10-25.png 2013-12-10 22:27:53 @J ooh, yes, from that angle 2013-12-10 22:27:57 @J it does look familiar-ish 2013-12-10 22:28:07 @J maybe 2013-12-10 22:28:08 Espyo I'd replace it with transparent after taking the screenshot and cropping, but some units use alpha, which creates a horrible purple monster 2013-12-10 22:28:23 Espyo I've never seen it, and at least the shadow would remind me of something 2013-12-10 22:28:28 @J I think it might be used where two paths cross 2013-12-10 22:28:34 Espyo from the name and how it looks, that unit would've fit in — 2013-12-10 22:28:35 Espyo exactly 2013-12-10 22:28:51 @J by which I mean, I think I recall seeing it used like that 2013-12-10 22:29:35 Espyo hm 2013-12-10 22:29:39 Espyo I really have no memory whatsoever 2013-12-10 22:29:56 Espyo Notepad++ claims it appears in 22 caves 2013-12-10 22:30:04 Espyo or cave layouts 2013-12-10 22:30:09 Espyo still not sure how it does specific layouts 2013-12-10 22:30:10 @J I might be confusing it with similar constructions in rusty-type areas, though 2013-12-10 22:30:34 Espyo hmm 2013-12-10 22:30:37 Espyo can't remember anything similar 2013-12-10 22:30:40 Espyo heck, and I saw all units 2013-12-10 22:30:47 @J just searched the whole ISO and found 22 references, yeah 2013-12-10 22:31:23 Espyo that was fast 2013-12-10 22:31:41 @J strings Pikmin\ 2.iso | grep way4_toy 2013-12-10 22:31:49 @J didn't bother extracting 2013-12-10 22:32:08 @J 45 mentions, the first must be the filename, the others are clearly 2 per file 2013-12-10 22:32:18 Espyo yeah 2013-12-10 22:32:19 Espyo say, can you find where, for instance... 2013-12-10 22:32:33 Espyo 1_NARI_hit6x6_toy.txt 2013-12-10 22:32:39 Espyo where that is referenced? if it all? 2013-12-10 22:32:57 @J can't find out where with this method 2013-12-10 22:33:12 Espyo I figured... in that case, just if it's ever referenced or not 2013-12-10 22:33:18 @J yep, running it 2013-12-10 22:33:19 Espyo I mean... 2013-12-10 22:33:22 Espyo in a place far away from the rest 2013-12-10 22:33:26 Espyo guh, the files are so confusing 2013-12-10 22:33:29 @J 2 mentions, seemed close together 2013-12-10 22:33:31 @J Espyo: {f008} -1 1_NARI_hit6x6_toy.txt # 2013-12-10 22:33:31 @J Espyo: {f008} -1 1_NARI_hit6x6_toy.txt # 2013-12-10 22:33:40 Espyo hm 2013-12-10 22:33:44 @J uh...I think the Espyo: is because I pasted a tab 2013-12-10 22:33:48 Espyo hehe 2013-12-10 22:33:56 Espyo mapunits/units/ contains info on the caves... 2013-12-10 22:34:01 Espyo AND the set of units used to build them 2013-12-10 22:34:04 Espyo it's confusing 2013-12-10 22:34:40 Espyo ok, this one is easy 2013-12-10 22:34:44 Espyo it's referenced in vs3_toy 2013-12-10 22:34:48 Espyo *vs_3_toy 2013-12-10 22:34:56 Espyo so 4th 2P level 2013-12-10 22:35:00 Espyo oh, I think it's 3rd, really 2013-12-10 22:35:17 Espyo right, Carpet Plain 2013-12-10 22:35:19 Espyo off to test 2013-12-10 22:35:49 @J extracted it and ag found nothing, which means it's probably in an archive 2013-12-10 22:36:02 Espyo mhm 2013-12-10 22:36:27 @J if I run that thing to extract all archives, it should be easy 2013-12-10 22:36:29 Espyo there are 2 other units I don't remember 2013-12-10 22:36:46 Espyo note that I can see where it's referenced 2013-12-10 22:36:51 Espyo but only amongst the files I have extracted 2013-12-10 22:36:55 Espyo which are the cave unit data files 2013-12-10 22:37:02 Espyo I was wondering if those were referenced elsewhere 2013-12-10 22:37:21 @J but rarcdump needs modifications to work on Linux 2013-12-10 22:37:45 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/way4_kusachi.jpg 4-way crossing on garden levels 2013-12-10 22:37:59 Espyo I certainly don't remember a stick with a leaf with a neat little shadow 2013-12-10 22:38:06 Espyo but the most bizarre of all 2013-12-10 22:38:08 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/way6_tsuchi.jpg 2013-12-10 22:41:28 @J that could be anything 2013-12-10 22:41:40 @J what's it look like from the side? 2013-12-10 22:43:04 Espyo which one? 2013-12-10 22:44:46 @J the last one 2013-12-10 22:45:09 Espyo that's just a pathway that splits into 5 2013-12-10 22:46:36 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/bmdview2%202013-12-10%2022-46-19-73.png 2013-12-10 22:48:44 @J no, the one you said is the most bizarre 2013-12-10 22:49:19 Espyo that's the last one 2013-12-10 22:49:48 @J yeah... 2013-12-10 22:49:52 @J maybe I'm confused 2013-12-10 22:50:07 Espyo there's the toy 4-way crossing 2013-12-10 22:50:11 Espyo then there's the garden one with the leaf 2013-12-10 22:50:18 Espyo then I found the 5-way split the most bizarre 2013-12-10 22:50:23 @J oh 2013-12-10 22:50:24 Espyo and this snapshot is of that https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/bmdview2%202013-12-10%2022-46-19-73.png 2013-12-10 22:50:31 @J you worded it kind of weirdly, then 2013-12-10 22:50:39 @J hmm 2013-12-10 22:50:53 Espyo yeah, I knew I should've put a colon after "but the most bizarre of all" 2013-12-10 22:50:54 Espyo oh well 2013-12-10 22:50:58 @J oh, never mind, the links opened in the wrong order 2013-12-10 22:51:00 @J fun 2013-12-10 22:51:02 Espyo oh 2013-12-10 22:51:19 Espyo oh! 2013-12-10 22:51:24 Espyo way6_tsuchi is not present anywhere 2013-12-10 22:51:28 @J way6_tsuchi is only in all_units 2013-12-10 22:51:37 Espyo unless I misspe— 2013-12-10 22:51:38 Espyo I did 2013-12-10 22:51:58 Espyo ah 2013-12-10 22:52:05 Espyo but I think that also means unused, in a way 2013-12-10 22:52:10 Espyo no file really points to all_units 2013-12-10 22:52:14 Espyo I think 2013-12-10 22:53:14 Espyo yep 2013-12-10 22:53:23 Espyo all_units points to way6_tsuchi 2013-12-10 22:53:27 Espyo but nothing points to all_units 2013-12-10 22:53:29 Espyo as such, this goes unused 2013-12-10 22:53:32 Espyo hurray, discoveries! 2013-12-10 22:54:38 Espyo the garden 4-way one is referenced in a few 2013-12-10 22:54:52 Espyo but it's weird, the garden and the toy 4-way ones are referenced in 2-P levels 2013-12-10 22:54:59 Espyo yet I just tried a couple of times and found nothing 2013-12-10 22:55:05 Espyo I'm not sure how the algorithm works 2013-12-10 22:55:14 Espyo I know there's a lot of info on what the exits are for each unit 2013-12-10 22:55:38 Espyo so maybe it tries to randomly fill a grid with the units specified in the files 2013-12-10 22:55:46 Espyo taking care not to overlap, not to leave exits uncovered, etc. 2013-12-10 22:55:54 Espyo and there's just no scenario in which 4 ways cross on those maps 2013-12-10 22:57:06 Espyo I'd like to try to replicate the algorithm they use 2013-12-10 22:57:10 Espyo seems like a fun exercise 2013-12-10 23:10:32 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: quit) 2013-12-10 23:13:41 @J new challenge: juggling while doing everyday tasks 2013-12-10 23:15:35 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2013-12-10 23:16:15 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-10 23:19:12 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 23:19:18 Espyo as I was saying 2013-12-10 23:19:33 Espyo does the acronym KFES ring a bell? 2013-12-10 23:19:46 Espyo also I realized other people have searched most of the stuff already http://tcrf.net/Pikmin_2/Unused_Caves/Early_Challenge_Mode_Info 2013-12-10 23:22:51 @J no, I saw that but no idea what it means 2013-12-10 23:25:40 Espyo Testyo didn't 2013-12-10 23:25:44 Espyo (see it) 2013-12-10 23:33:47 @J what 2013-12-10 23:34:03 Espyo Testyo didn't see me asking about KFES 2013-12-10 23:34:13 Espyo so I assumed it didn't go through 2013-12-10 23:34:21 @J I mean, I saw it in the game files 2013-12-10 23:34:27 @J didn't realise you sent it twice 2013-12-10 23:34:45 @J I was about to question just what level of sentience Testyo has reached for a minute 2013-12-10 23:35:59 Espyo oh 2013-12-10 23:36:12 Espyo yeah, it's best not to talk about his sentience 2013-12-10 23:36:18 Espyo he can sometimes be too scary with what he says 2013-12-10 23:36:20 Espyo Testyo: unserious 2013-12-10 23:36:20 Testyo I wasn't in serious mode... 2013-12-10 23:36:25 Espyo Testyo: unserious #Pikipedia 2013-12-10 23:36:25 Testyo I am no longer in serious mode on #Pikipedia; I can do funny random things again! 2013-12-10 23:36:32 Espyo ok, talk some, Testyo 2013-12-10 23:36:32 Testyo and it just feels "right", so your CpS is +1,000,000,000,000? 2013-12-10 23:36:42 Espyo you're not really proving my point, Testyo 2013-12-10 23:36:43 Testyo how did it would quickly become a normal human stealth game 2013-12-10 23:36:55 Espyo c'mon, Testyo, be scarily smart 2013-12-10 23:36:55 Testyo sure 2013-12-10 23:36:57 @J Tesyto = hunting humans 2013-12-10 23:38:24 @J also, that means you may not have seen 2013-12-10 23:38:27 @J [23:13:41] @J new challenge: juggling while doing everyday tasks 2013-12-10 23:38:35 Testyo heram 2013-12-10 23:38:40 @J what 2013-12-10 23:39:17 @J also, I like how you get a ping timeout but Testyo doesn't 2013-12-10 23:39:17 Testyo well, it's really are illegal? 2013-12-10 23:39:49 Espyo nope, didn't see it 2013-12-10 23:39:55 Espyo yeah, it's so weird 2013-12-10 23:40:00 Espyo I don't even trust IRC to make sense anymore 2013-12-10 23:40:30 Espyo ah, Testyo did see your juggling comment 2013-12-10 23:40:30 Testyo he forgot an 2013-12-10 23:40:38 Espyo an what, Testyo? 2013-12-10 23:40:38 Testyo focused on being a stupid party instead of having smart wikis 2013-12-10 23:42:41 @J stupid party is the best kind of party 2013-12-10 23:42:49 @J and Testyo knows it from experience 2013-12-10 23:42:49 Testyo but we never noticed it 2013-12-10 23:43:03 @J we never noticed anything 2013-12-10 23:44:37 @J anyway, got to go 2013-12-10 23:44:37 @J bye 2013-12-10 23:44:49 Espyo bye 2013-12-10 23:45:53 @J and can you force me to work on the physics engine tomorrow? 2013-12-10 23:46:03 @J *gone* 2013-12-10 23:46:14 Espyo will do 2013-12-10 23:49:46 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-10 23:49:46 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-10 23:50:04 @PikFan . 2013-12-10 23:50:32 @PikFan so it snowed here last Friday 2013-12-10 23:50:33 Espyo hey 2013-12-10 23:50:38 Espyo J went to bed like 5 minutes ago 2013-12-10 23:50:45 Espyo is snow common there? 2013-12-10 23:50:48 @PikFan no 2013-12-10 23:50:49 Espyo it's ultra rare here 2013-12-10 23:50:53 Espyo last time was like 5 years ago 2013-12-10 23:50:57 @PikFan wow 2013-12-10 23:50:57 Espyo for the first time in probably over 50 2013-12-10 23:51:04 Espyo snow is so awesome 2013-12-10 23:51:09 @PikFan indeed 2013-12-10 23:51:20 @PikFan but snow isn't that common here either 2013-12-10 23:51:41 @PikFan once only every two winters do we get a big snowstorm 2013-12-10 23:51:49 @PikFan we got like 8 inches 2013-12-10 23:51:49 Testyo 8 inches = 20.32 cm 2013-12-10 23:52:18 Espyo woah 2013-12-10 23:52:29 Espyo heh, when it snowed here, it was just some snowflakes 2013-12-10 23:52:30 Espyo 1cm at most 2013-12-10 23:52:31 Testyo 1 cm = 0.3938 in / 0.0328 ft / 0.526316 Olimar-heights / 1.666 TRY-heights 2013-12-10 23:52:45 @PikFan Olimar-heights? 2013-12-10 23:52:55 Espyo I never really sa— ignore the "TRY-heights" —w large amounts of snow other than on mountaintops 2013-12-10 23:52:56 Espyo yeah 2013-12-10 23:53:02 Espyo 1.9cm 2013-12-10 23:53:03 Testyo 1.9 cm = 0.74822 in / 0.06232 ft / 1 Olimar-heights / 3.1654 TRY-heights 2013-12-10 23:53:10 Espyo Olimar is exactly 1.9cm tall 2013-12-10 23:53:10 Testyo 1.9 cm = 0.74822 in / 0.06232 ft / 1 Olimar-heights / 3.1654 TRY-heights 2013-12-10 23:53:20 @PikFan I see 2013-12-10 23:53:30 @PikFan hmmm 2013-12-10 23:53:34 @PikFan 1.89cm 2013-12-10 23:53:34 Testyo 1.89 cm = 0.744282 in / 0.061992 ft / 0.994737 Olimar-heights / 3.14874 TRY-heights 2013-12-10 23:53:44 @PikFan 1.88cm 2013-12-10 23:53:44 Testyo 1.88 cm = 0.740344 in / 0.061664 ft / 0.989474 Olimar-heights / 3.13208 TRY-heights 2013-12-10 23:54:03 @PikFan 1.889cm 2013-12-10 23:54:03 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/Captain_Olimar as per our wiki, at least 2013-12-10 23:54:04 Testyo 1.889 cm = 0.743888 in / 0.0619592 ft / 0.994211 Olimar-heights / 3.14707 TRY-heights 2013-12-10 23:54:13 Espyo which is basically the same as saying as per the Pikmin 1 manual 2013-12-10 23:54:18 @PikFan yeah 2013-12-10 23:54:30 @PikFan oh, also 2013-12-10 23:54:42 @PikFan there's this business behind my apartment complex 2013-12-10 23:54:58 @PikFan it has this parking lot, so snow got plowed off of it 2013-12-10 23:55:14 @PikFan resulting in these giant mounds which are like 5 feet high 2013-12-10 23:55:14 Testyo 5 feet = 152.4 cm 2013-12-10 23:55:38 @PikFan and I decided to tunnel through one of them 2013-12-10 23:55:38 Espyo wow 2013-12-10 23:55:47 Espyo did you find treasure? please tell me you did 2013-12-10 23:55:57 @PikFan no :( 2013-12-10 23:56:54 Espyo drat 2013-12-10 23:57:02 Espyo anyway, I've got some Pikmin 2 news 2013-12-10 23:57:07 Espyo and I'll need your help for a second 2013-12-10 23:57:17 @PikFan okay 2013-12-10 23:57:21 @PikFan NPC! ? 2013-12-10 23:57:30 Espyo not necessarily 2013-12-10 23:57:33 Espyo and you don't need to turn it on 2013-12-10 23:57:39 Espyo I just need your memory 2013-12-10 23:57:43 Espyo I checked the game files and took pictures of all possible cave map units 2013-12-10 23:57:54 Espyo a cave is composed of several units laid out randomly 2013-12-10 23:58:08 Espyo there's a corridor unit, a central room unit, a 4-way crossing unit, etc. 2013-12-10 23:58:13 Espyo I'll add these onto the wiki soon 2013-12-10 23:58:26 Espyo in the meantime, I found 1 unused unit and 2 that I think are unused 2013-12-10 23:58:34 @PikFan oh, these 2013-12-10 23:58:51 Espyo the unused one is definitely unused: http://tcrf.net/Pikmin_2#Unused_map_unit 2013-12-10 23:58:52 @PikFan I know what you're talking about, I've seen some unused ones on TCRF 2013-12-10 23:59:07 Espyo no, that's cave layouts 2013-12-10 23:59:10 Espyo I mean specific pieces 2013-12-10 23:59:13 Espyo think of it as a puzzle 2013-12-10 23:59:24 @PikFan oh, right 2013-12-10 23:59:24 Espyo the game is given 2 end pieces, 1 4-way piece, 3 corridor pieces, etc. 2013-12-10 23:59:30 Espyo and it has to assemble them randomly and correctly 2013-12-10 23:59:35 @PikFan but yeah I know what you mean 2013-12-10 23:59:38 Espyo on TCRF there are some unused combinations 2013-12-10 23:59:43 Espyo I found an unused single piece 2013-12-10 23:59:48 Espyo look at it, it's so weird 2013-12-10 23:59:52 Espyo a path that splits into FIVE? 2013-12-11 00:00:06 Espyo how in the world would that look appealing? 2013-12-11 00:00:15 Espyo the ground texture is also weird, looks like grass and dirt on top of... marble? 2013-12-11 00:00:41 @PikFan no wonder why Nintendo didn't use it 2013-12-11 00:00:46 Espyo anyway, as for the other 2... 2013-12-11 00:00:52 Espyo they're 4-way intersection pieces 2013-12-11 00:01:00 Espyo for the grass and toy caves 2013-12-11 00:01:04 Espyo that's where I need your memory 2013-12-11 00:01:05 @PikFan mm 2013-12-11 00:01:14 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/way4_toy.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/bmdview2%202013-12-10%2022-27-10-25.png 2013-12-11 00:01:17 Espyo this is the toy one 2013-12-11 00:01:34 @PikFan yeah, I've seen that one before 2013-12-11 00:01:35 Espyo I asked some (3) people if they ever saw that, they said no 2013-12-11 00:01:41 Espyo even though J said he kinda thinks it's familiar 2013-12-11 00:01:50 Espyo you have? would you happen to know what cave exactly? 2013-12-11 00:02:06 @PikFan Glutton's Kitchen and Carpet Room 2013-12-11 00:02:16 Espyo the thing is I checked the game files to see what calls that piece (it's also why I know the 5-splitter piece is unused) 2013-12-11 00:02:23 Espyo and a few caves call it, over 10 2013-12-11 00:02:40 Espyo but knowing what's a cave in the final game, what's a test cave, what's a beta cave, and what's a cave that is actually just a configuration for another cave is confusing 2013-12-11 00:02:46 Espyo so I couldn't be sure of what used that piece 2013-12-11 00:02:53 Espyo however, I did actually notice the Carpet Room used it 2013-12-11 00:03:04 @PikFan yeah 2013-12-11 00:03:17 @PikFan I think I saw one on sublevel 3 of the GK 2013-12-11 00:03:25 Espyo because the name of that cave is easily recognizable: vs_3_toy 2013-12-11 00:03:31 Espyo but the thing is... 2013-12-11 00:03:42 Espyo I opened up Pikmin 2, ran the Carpet Room for a few times 2013-12-11 00:03:44 Espyo and never saw that piece 2013-12-11 00:03:50 Espyo I never even saw any 3-way crossings 2013-12-11 00:04:09 @PikFan ...there weren't any 3 way crossings? 2013-12-11 00:04:12 @PikFan I 2013-12-11 00:04:18 @PikFan gah enter key 2013-12-11 00:04:33 @PikFan *I'm pretty sure that you start out in a 3-way crossing sometimes 2013-12-11 00:04:45 Espyo hm 2013-12-11 00:04:51 Espyo well, I'll check GK as well 2013-12-11 00:04:52 Espyo thanks 2013-12-11 00:04:54 @PikFan okay, what about the other one? 2013-12-11 00:04:55 Espyo anyway, the second one 2013-12-11 00:05:09 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/way4_kusachi.jpg also a 4-way crossing, this time on garden levels 2013-12-11 00:05:23 Espyo I don't remember ever seeing a small stick standing up-right with a leaf casting a shadow 2013-12-11 00:05:40 @PikFan hm 2013-12-11 00:05:49 @PikFan I don't remember that 2013-12-11 00:06:11 @PikFan do you have another picture of it? 2013-12-11 00:06:29 Espyo sure 2013-12-11 00:07:14 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/bmdview2%202013-12-11%2000-07-00-86.png 2013-12-11 00:07:52 @PikFan yep, never seen that on 2013-12-11 00:07:53 @PikFan *one 2013-12-11 00:09:33 Espyo it's referenced in 14 configurations 2013-12-11 00:09:55 Espyo the Brawl Yard being one of them... hmm 2013-12-11 00:11:05 @PikFan I'll go boot it up, maybe I've never noticed it 2013-12-11 00:12:07 Espyo mhm 2013-12-11 00:14:01 Espyo kjahsdhkasd 2013-12-11 00:14:09 Espyo I'm talking to someone on Skype who played the latest Pikmin 3 DLC 2013-12-11 00:14:26 Espyo he says that if Louie (he's playable on one of the levels) is left somewhere idle, and he gets hurt 2013-12-11 00:14:43 Espyo it says "This is Louis... Waaa!" 2013-12-11 00:14:46 Espyo LOUIS 2013-12-11 00:19:51 @PikFan BACK 2013-12-11 00:19:54 @PikFan *back 2013-12-11 00:20:01 @PikFan lolwhaaaat? 2013-12-11 00:20:30 @PikFan anyway, I tested the Brawl Yard like 6 times 2013-12-11 00:20:36 @PikFan didn't find the 4-way 2013-12-11 00:25:29 @PikFan brb 2013-12-11 00:25:35 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: switching computers) 2013-12-11 00:28:05 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 00:28:05 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-11 00:28:15 @PikFan back 2013-12-11 00:29:31 @PikFan so about Cookie Clicker 2013-12-11 00:29:43 @PikFan I wonder what the next big update'll be about 2013-12-11 00:30:09 @PikFan maybe Christmas stuff? 2013-12-11 00:32:02 Espyo hm 2013-12-11 00:32:07 Espyo maybe it's GK 2013-12-11 00:32:15 Espyo hmm, is an update in the works? 2013-12-11 00:32:33 @PikFan I hope so 2013-12-11 00:43:59 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-11 00:44:06 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 01:13:35 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-11 01:13:48 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-11 01:24:53 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 01:55:06 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-12-11 02:00:25 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 02:00:28 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-11 02:25:12 --> sev (Mibbit@66.211.yph.ov) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 02:25:16 <-- sev (Mibbit@66.211.yph.ov) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-11 03:21:02 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: night) 2013-12-11 03:35:01 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 03:35:08 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-11 04:57:28 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 07:05:19 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-12-11 11:33:26 --> Prezintenden (Mibbit@09-67-212-93-ogptx.superkabel.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 11:35:58 Prezintenden i was just about to commend the wiiu for allowing me to use the gamepad to change the video output without having to insert both HDMI and SCART. then i remembered the PS3 does it automatically 2013-12-11 14:29:50 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-11 15:54:12 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 16:56:38 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 17:13:57 --> Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 17:13:57 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-11 17:41:16 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 17:41:18 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-11 17:41:47 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 18:16:50 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-11 18:16:59 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 18:58:30 @J my oven broke, so I started having sandwiches 2013-12-11 18:59:16 @J now, sitting in front of me is a tuna mayonnaise sandwich with sweetcorn, smoked sausage, onion, pepper and tomato 2013-12-11 18:59:35 @J and the bread is about as thick as my arm 2013-12-11 19:02:20 Espyo not really the kind of sandwich I'm used to 2013-12-11 19:02:26 Espyo by I I mean everybody 2013-12-11 19:02:37 Espyo you can still cook rice and the like on a microwave 2013-12-11 19:05:29 @J oh, the hob still works 2013-12-11 19:05:33 @J just not the oveny bit 2013-12-11 19:05:50 @J and I switch to sandwiches every so often anyway, just because 2013-12-11 19:06:27 Prezintenden been living for 20 years 2013-12-11 19:06:48 Prezintenden and not until today did i know what the hot plate thingies on top of an oven are called 2013-12-11 19:07:35 Espyo what in the world is a hob 2013-12-11 19:07:41 Espyo when in the world did Prez join 2013-12-11 19:07:41 Espyo what is life 2013-12-11 19:07:42 Espyo also hi 2013-12-11 19:08:01 Prezintenden a hob is the hot plate thingy on the top of an oven 2013-12-11 19:08:04 Espyo I eat sandwiches once a week anyway 2013-12-11 19:08:05 Prezintenden hi 2013-12-11 19:08:10 Espyo OH, that's what that is 2013-12-11 19:08:12 Espyo noted 2013-12-11 19:10:04 @J it's probably called something different in the US? 2013-12-11 19:10:36 Prezintenden probably just 'stove' 2013-12-11 19:11:33 Prezintenden so i saw miles is going to be at agdq. i was already excited but now i just can't wait 2013-12-11 19:11:59 Espyo mhm 2013-12-11 19:12:10 Espyo also I keep thinking Prez is from Germany 2013-12-11 19:12:14 Espyo somebody shoot me already, eesh 2013-12-11 19:12:14 @J some parts of the north of England call the whole thing a 'cooker', not sure if that's used elsewhere too 2013-12-11 19:12:20 @J ...he is 2013-12-11 19:12:21 Prezintenden that's because i am 2013-12-11 19:12:26 Espyo then why did 2013-12-11 19:12:28 Espyo you mention the US 2013-12-11 19:12:35 @J because they don't speak English in Germany? 2013-12-11 19:12:44 Espyo err 2013-12-11 19:12:45 Espyo fair point 2013-12-11 19:12:46 @J US is just the default 'other English', I guess 2013-12-11 19:12:51 Espyo ok, somebody really shoot me, good grief 2013-12-11 19:12:56 Espyo yeah, I get that 2013-12-11 19:13:01 Espyo good ol' neglected AU though 2013-12-11 19:13:10 Prezintenden because i spent some time in canada, and pretty much everything english related is always from US. shows, movies, pop culture, britain has very little of that here 2013-12-11 19:13:21 @J Miles was at the last few as well 2013-12-11 19:13:38 @J in Canada or in Germany? 2013-12-11 19:13:43 Espyo not the last one, I believe 2013-12-11 19:14:06 Prezintenden really? i only watched bits and pieces of it, i didn't even know what it was until i happened upon the last one 2013-12-11 19:14:35 Prezintenden germany. canada obviously is even less britain-y 2013-12-11 19:17:15 Miles These two entirely different conversations are confusing me 2013-12-11 19:17:24 Miles I've been to one of them 2013-12-11 19:17:34 Espyo one of either Germany or Canada? 2013-12-11 19:17:46 Miles See 2013-12-11 19:17:55 Espyo hehe 2013-12-11 19:28:04 -- Cactmas is now known as Cactmas|AFK 2013-12-11 19:40:24 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-12-11 19:42:17 Espyo http://what-if.xkcd.com/75/ 2013-12-11 19:58:58 @J *also has such a phone* 2013-12-11 20:00:05 -- Cactmas|AFK is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-11 20:04:02 Espyo everyone does 2013-12-11 20:12:17 @J they do? 2013-12-11 20:13:09 Espyo yeah, cellphones with letters on the number keys 2013-12-11 20:13:12 Espyo those are still around 2013-12-11 20:13:27 @J around, yes, but you say everyone 2013-12-11 20:13:41 Espyo statistically everyone does 2013-12-11 20:13:48 @J I see 2013-12-11 20:14:30 Espyo say, gonna need your opinion/help for a bit 2013-12-11 20:14:46 Espyo the way I'm thinking of making enemies on the Pikmin fangame engine is kinda like this: 2013-12-11 20:14:50 Espyo an enemy is in a state 2013-12-11 20:15:05 Espyo this can either be the chomping state,, the idling state, the walking state, etc. 2013-12-11 20:15:20 Espyo (oh, so I did write a comma there already, my cursor was in the way) 2013-12-11 20:15:35 Espyo on a text file (for now), you specify what each state is, and what happens in it 2013-12-11 20:15:58 Espyo for instance, on the idling state of a Dwarf Bulborb, you specify that it enters the "sniffing the air animation" for a few seconds 2013-12-11 20:16:08 Espyo and then randomly walks around and goes back to sniffing 2013-12-11 20:16:23 Espyo then comes the state where it spots a Pikmin, so it changes to the walking animation, etc. 2013-12-11 20:16:37 Espyo I made a text file with that info, I need your opinion on how much sense it makes 2013-12-11 20:17:05 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/States.txt 2013-12-11 20:23:47 @J specifying name like that makes it seem like it has no real significance 2013-12-11 20:23:59 @J I would do 'idling{ ... }', etc. 2013-12-11 20:24:57 @J specifying the script like that is weird 2013-12-11 20:25:11 Espyo hm 2013-12-11 20:25:14 Espyo I can actually do that 2013-12-11 20:25:16 Espyo oh wait, I can't 2013-12-11 20:25:16 @J it has the same format as other configuration sections, but works entirely differently 2013-12-11 20:25:20 @J for one thing, it's ordered 2013-12-11 20:25:25 Espyo near the end of the Wollywog info there's a condition 2013-12-11 20:25:30 Espyo I gotta differentiate conditions from states 2013-12-11 20:25:33 @J also, keys can be duplicated 2013-12-11 20:25:37 Espyo they can 2013-12-11 20:25:45 @J and writing them as assignments just looks wrong 2013-12-11 20:25:47 Espyo I made the system so that keys can be duplicated 2013-12-11 20:25:50 Espyo it sure does 2013-12-11 20:25:57 Espyo I will in no way try to deny it 2013-12-11 20:26:01 Espyo so why'd I do it? 2013-12-11 20:26:05 Espyo consistency's sake 2013-12-11 20:26:08 Espyo everything else uses this format 2013-12-11 20:26:22 Espyo bleh, I'm pretty sure I'll skip making enemy scripts like this though 2013-12-11 20:26:27 Espyo or a combination of sorts 2013-12-11 20:27:01 Espyo http://mibpaste.com/d6fTTS kinda like that 2013-12-11 20:27:07 Espyo though I guess key = value also works 2013-12-11 20:27:13 Espyo I mean, I can understand what the script is meant to do 2013-12-11 20:30:57 @J yes, of course I understand why you did it like that 2013-12-11 20:31:17 @J it's not clear what happens when a state doesn't exist 2013-12-11 20:31:25 Espyo hm 2013-12-11 20:31:31 Espyo you mean like a death state that hasn't been defined? 2013-12-11 20:31:34 Espyo obviously all enemies need that 2013-12-11 20:31:54 @J like, MAL has no near_target 2013-12-11 20:32:08 Espyo MAL is incomplete 2013-12-11 20:32:24 Espyo it's just an excerpt for me to remind myself on how projectile spawn should probably work 2013-12-11 20:32:36 Espyo hmm, but I get what you mean 2013-12-11 20:32:45 Espyo I'll have to think a bit more about that part 2013-12-11 20:32:50 Espyo though MAL is kind of a weird case 2013-12-11 20:32:58 Espyo you could say his near_target is when there's a Pikmin within shooting range 2013-12-11 20:33:31 @J hmm, I think it might be useful to use a different format to names of things that exist in the instance of the state 2013-12-11 20:33:35 @J like target 2013-12-11 20:33:49 @J for example, the projectile lines 2013-12-11 20:33:53 @J bullet will always be bullet 2013-12-11 20:33:58 @J target is a sort of argument to the script 2013-12-11 20:34:07 @J maybe use caps 2013-12-11 20:35:09 Espyo bullet won't always be bullet, could be a rock (Armored Cannon Beetle) 2013-12-11 20:35:20 Espyo "target" is context-sensitive, I suppose 2013-12-11 20:35:24 @J but for this script it will always be a bullet 2013-12-11 20:35:33 Espyo the script doesn't know that though 2013-12-11 20:35:46 @J by writing 'bullet', yes, it does 2013-12-11 20:36:01 Espyo 20:33 J bullet will always be bullet 2013-12-11 20:36:12 Espyo by this I got the idea that "bullet" should be omitted 2013-12-11 20:36:38 Espyo I'm not entirely following 2013-12-11 20:36:54 @J no, I mean 2013-12-11 20:37:03 @J write 'projectile = bullet TARGET 500' 2013-12-11 20:37:35 Espyo hm 2013-12-11 20:37:46 Espyo starting to deviate too much from my idea of user-friendliness 2013-12-11 20:37:54 @J I think that makes it clearer 2013-12-11 20:38:06 Espyo see that "-3 to 3"? it was meant to be "-3:3" or something of the sorts 2013-12-11 20:38:12 Espyo it does a tiny bit, but 2013-12-11 20:38:21 Espyo maybe I could just make it case insensitive 2013-12-11 20:38:35 @J mm, doesn't really help 2013-12-11 20:38:44 Espyo if the scripter wants to write in all caps, they can 2013-12-11 20:38:54 Espyo but I know what you mean 2013-12-11 20:38:58 Espyo words that are meant to be keywords 2013-12-11 20:39:08 Espyo I don't really see that style anywhere else, though 2013-12-11 20:39:15 Espyo except maybe SQL? 2013-12-11 20:39:43 @J what's also unclear is which states can interrupt which other states 2013-12-11 20:39:52 @J and, in some cases, when a state ends 2013-12-11 20:40:14 Espyo right, I feared that 2013-12-11 20:40:19 Espyo ok, so my idea is 2013-12-11 20:40:31 Espyo the script goes from start to finish, stopping whenever there's a wait 2013-12-11 20:40:51 Espyo while a state's script is running, another state cannot be entered 2013-12-11 20:40:56 Espyo except important states, like dying 2013-12-11 20:41:11 Espyo for instance, a Dwarf will never chase a Pikmin, turn, or do anything if it's lying down because it failed a bite 2013-12-11 20:41:13 Espyo but it will always die 2013-12-11 20:41:23 Espyo also anything can interrupt its random idling 2013-12-11 20:41:32 Espyo be it being attacked, squashed, a Pikmin nearing up, etc. 2013-12-11 20:41:38 Espyo the names I chose were really poor, though 2013-12-11 20:41:49 @J if seeing_target happens, when does it stop? 2013-12-11 20:41:57 @J when it reaches the target? What if the target moves? 2013-12-11 20:42:08 Espyo hmm 2013-12-11 20:42:09 @J does near_target happen? 2013-12-11 20:42:41 Espyo after turning towards the target (and waiting until the turn is complete, I should've added that) 2013-12-11 20:42:44 @J when you say 'walk = target', does that put it in the 'walknig' state? 2013-12-11 20:42:52 Espyo and after setting the sights on the target and walking towards it 2013-12-11 20:42:55 Espyo the state's script ends 2013-12-11 20:43:00 @J if so, why the 'animation = walking'? 2013-12-11 20:43:01 Espyo and any state can take over from here on 2013-12-11 20:43:12 Espyo hmm 2013-12-11 20:43:24 Espyo yeah, walk = target puts it in the walking state 2013-12-11 20:43:32 Espyo and yeah, the animation declaration is unneeded 2013-12-11 20:43:39 Espyo guh, but then it can't go back to the previous state 2013-12-11 20:43:46 Espyo see, it's all so confusing, that's why I needed a second opinion 2013-12-11 20:44:40 @J okay, I would say make idling not a state 2013-12-11 20:44:49 @J instead, define idling actions separately 2013-12-11 20:45:28 @J then, whenever a script does 'state = ', end the script and jump straight to that state 2013-12-11 20:45:40 @J when a script ends without setting a state, go back to idling 2013-12-11 20:46:10 Espyo hm 2013-12-11 20:46:23 Espyo then what about the "chasing target" state? 2013-12-11 20:46:31 Espyo I suppose it is ran until the target is caught 2013-12-11 20:46:40 Espyo but I wanted to make a system where all states are independent 2013-12-11 20:46:49 Espyo and this makes the catching state dependent of the chasing one 2013-12-11 20:47:12 Espyo did you ever do anything of this sort before? 2013-12-11 20:47:46 @J I don't see a 'chasing target' state 2013-12-11 20:49:36 @J or make state switching more detailed 2013-12-11 20:50:13 @J in a script: 'state{ name = walking target = TARGET }' 2013-12-11 20:50:25 Espyo oh, I guess a chasing_target state would make it slightly less confusing 2013-12-11 20:50:36 @J maybe you can specify, in there, chase = true 2013-12-11 20:50:53 @J if false, target becomes fixed at call time 2013-12-11 20:51:16 Espyo I'm not seeing it at all 2013-12-11 20:51:28 Espyo hm 2013-12-11 20:51:34 Espyo or rather, it seems something super-specific to walking 2013-12-11 20:51:43 Espyo doesn't really bring out the notion of all states being independent 2013-12-11 20:55:51 Espyo I have to reimagine the whole thing 2013-12-11 20:55:56 @J I think one issue is that walking is a state, but all the rest are events 2013-12-11 20:55:57 Espyo basing myself on how Doom works isn't helping 2013-12-11 20:56:15 Espyo yes, I'm starting to get the idea that these are half states, half events 2013-12-11 20:56:34 Espyo in fact, I think that's where the biggest flaw is 2013-12-11 21:03:37 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 21:06:57 @J I think there's just too much to care about 2013-12-11 21:07:20 @J like, the shooting thing: how do you know the target's in range? 2013-12-11 21:07:43 Espyo it's defined on the enemy's info 2013-12-11 21:07:48 Espyo like we have on Pikmin 2 2013-12-11 21:07:52 Espyo enemy see range 2013-12-11 21:08:01 @J in range to hit, I mean 2013-12-11 21:08:10 @J maybe shooting range != sight range 2013-12-11 21:08:31 @J and does it stop when the enemy's out of range? 2013-12-11 21:08:45 @J everything is going to be so confusing 2013-12-11 21:08:45 Espyo that could be defined as well 2013-12-11 21:08:51 Espyo it sure is 2013-12-11 21:09:02 Espyo programming enemy by enemy would be easier than this 2013-12-11 21:09:46 Espyo but I might be able to improve this mess by splitting events and states 2013-12-11 21:10:36 @J I tried writing some stuff, and just couldn't work out what I was supposed to do and what would be done for me 2013-12-11 21:10:57 @J I mean, how do I handle moving targets? 2013-12-11 21:11:13 @J does the enemy just try to do what he's trying to do until he gets stuck? 2013-12-11 21:11:38 @J do scripts get continual updates about the environment in any way? 2013-12-11 21:12:10 @J if I'm chasing a Pikmin and another attacks from behind, how do I start chasing that one? 2013-12-11 21:12:14 Espyo I suppose that turning and walking is asynchronous 2013-12-11 21:12:21 Espyo keeps going and it won't stop until the target is faced 2013-12-11 21:12:27 Espyo if the target keeps moving, it still keeps going 2013-12-11 21:12:31 Espyo (faced or reached) 2013-12-11 21:12:47 Espyo there's no notion of getting stuck, btw 2013-12-11 21:12:57 Espyo seriously, the enemies in the original Pikmin games are idiotic 2013-12-11 21:13:17 Espyo it's thanks to a Bulbear getting stuck on a wall chasing a single Pikmin that I can go through the Hole of Heroes without fighting 2013-12-11 21:13:40 Espyo I think they also don't switch targets 2013-12-11 21:13:57 Espyo unless the target they have on their sights is gone or too far away, they'll keep focusing on it 2013-12-11 21:14:09 Espyo again, the whole Bulbear getting stuck on a wall focused on a single Pikmin 2013-12-11 21:30:29 --> Scr8 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 21:30:37 <-- Scr8 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-11 22:13:17 <-- Prezintenden (Mibbit@09-67-212-93-ogptx.superkabel.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-11 22:13:51 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-11 22:42:06 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-11 22:42:18 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-11 22:42:18 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-11 22:42:18 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-11 22:42:18 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ @PikFan BetaMaster CactmaSleep Espyo J Miles RingtailedFox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-11 22:42:18 -- Channel #pikipedia: 10 nicks (2 ops, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-12-11 22:42:18 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-11 22:42:18 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-11 22:42:20 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-11 22:42:21 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-11 22:42:24 Espyo ah 2013-12-11 22:43:07 @PikFan (specifically, a GC will appear 0.6 seconds after you click the GC on-screen) 2013-12-11 22:43:40 @PikFan ...and last night I got ~800,000,000,000,000,000 cookies within a matter of /seconds/ 2013-12-11 22:43:48 Espyo wow 2013-12-11 22:43:58 @PikFan because I got Clicking Frenzy + Elder Frenzy 2013-12-11 22:44:13 @PikFan so as you could imagine... 2013-12-11 22:48:33 Espyo mhm 2013-12-11 22:52:16 @PikFan interesting 2013-12-11 22:52:26 @PikFan in Pikmin 3 Fiery Blowhogs weigh less 2013-12-11 22:52:45 @PikFan carry weight is 5, and maximum carriers is 10 2013-12-11 22:54:04 Espyo hm 2013-12-11 22:55:21 @PikFan do we have a thing on enemy infoboxes for P3 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That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-12-12 11:03:51 --> Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-12 11:03:52 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-12 11:07:43 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-12 11:16:03 Espyo Testyo: memo J http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Optimopro&rcid=30804 2013-12-12 11:16:04 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for J saying: http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Optimopro&rcid=30804. 2013-12-12 12:12:44 Espyo Testyo: memo J http://www.hastac.org/blogs/ari-schlesinger/2013/11/26/feminism-and-programming-languages /what/ 2013-12-12 12:12:44 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for J saying: http://www.hastac.org/blogs/ari-schlesinger/2013/11/26/feminism-and-programming-languages /what/. 2013-12-12 15:08:56 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-12 15:51:34 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-12 18:32:49 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-12 18:46:00 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-12-12 19:13:29 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-12 20:00:36 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-12-12 20:20:56 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-12 20:21:35 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-12 20:25:02 @J what does that even 2013-12-12 20:25:02 Testyo Oh, J, you have a memo from Espyo, written on 12/12/2013 11:16 (GMT), saying: http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=User:Optimopro&rcid=30804. 2013-12-12 20:25:03 Testyo Oh, J, you have a memo from Espyo, written on 12/12/2013 12:12 (GMT), saying: http://www.hastac.org/blogs/ari-schlesinger/2013/11/26/feminism-and-programming-languages /what/. 2013-12-12 20:27:29 Espyo I have no idea 2013-12-12 21:11:04 Espyo why was wondering why I didn't have room_pool5x5_5_tile.jpg on the folder 2013-12-12 21:11:12 Espyo then I realized I named it room_poo5x5_5_tile.jpg 2013-12-12 21:21:56 @J poo? 2013-12-12 21:22:06 @J nice job 2013-12-12 21:25:45 Espyo mhm 2013-12-12 21:38:47 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-12 21:38:47 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-12 21:39:11 @PikFan J, Espyo 2013-12-12 21:39:26 @PikFan I know why White and Purple Pikmin don't have Onions 2013-12-12 21:41:44 @PikFan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UapApMBF660 2013-12-12 21:41:50 @PikFan at 2:20 2013-12-12 21:45:44 @J I don't see how that explains it 2013-12-12 21:46:10 @PikFan Brittany states that Onions need light to live 2013-12-12 21:46:23 @PikFan Purples/Whites are a subterranean species of Pikmin 2013-12-12 21:46:33 @PikFan and since they live underground, there's no light 2013-12-12 21:46:58 @PikFan which explains the absence of their Onions 2013-12-12 21:58:35 @J in what way do they live underground? 2013-12-12 21:58:51 @J purple/white candypops are underground, but so are red, blue and yellow 2013-12-12 21:59:16 @J you saying the fact they're only underground explains that they're only underground 2013-12-12 22:00:19 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-12 22:00:55 @J *you're 2013-12-12 22:01:27 @PikFan hm 2013-12-12 22:03:08 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr2013 2013-12-12 22:03:14 @PikFan no, but 2013-12-12 22:03:32 @PikFan I said I know why they don't have Onions, not why they're underground 2013-12-12 22:05:00 -- Scr2013 is now known as Scr7 2013-12-12 22:11:46 Espyo hey 2013-12-12 22:11:59 @PikFan hi 2013-12-12 22:12:10 Espyo hmm, gotta agree with J 2013-12-12 22:12:16 Espyo it's only their buds that are underground 2013-12-12 22:13:09 @PikFan but that's implying that their Onions could be aboveground 2013-12-12 22:13:33 @PikFan (I finally realized what J meant) 2013-12-12 22:16:57 @PikFan strictly speaking, in Pikmin 2 alone, there are no purple/white Onions aboveground 2013-12-12 22:20:29 Espyo yeah 2013-12-12 22:21:43 Espyo oh notch 2013-12-12 22:21:49 Espyo is there anything you don't donate to? 2013-12-12 22:21:57 Espyo I detest your coding skills 2013-12-12 22:22:03 Espyo and I think you're a lazy bum 2013-12-12 22:22:10 Espyo but you're nice by donating your millions 2013-12-12 22:22:20 @PikFan what's notch 2013-12-12 22:22:26 Espyo creator of Minecraft 2013-12-12 22:22:33 @PikFan oh 2013-12-12 22:22:42 @PikFan oh, I see 2013-12-12 22:22:43 @PikFan heh 2013-12-12 22:24:09 Espyo Pikmin 2 is so unorganized that it's hard to find out exactly what cave types there are by looking at the files 2013-12-12 22:24:46 Espyo but I think I concluded: brick, concrete, dirt, garden, metal, snow, swamp, toybox and tiles 2013-12-12 22:25:53 Espyo there's all_units_conc, all_units_hitode_toy, all_units_kusachi, all_units_metal, all_units_renga, all_units_snow, all_units_tile, all_units_toy, all_units_tsuchi, all_units_water_tsuchi, all_units_water-ike4 2013-12-12 22:26:13 Espyo conc is concrete, hitode toy contains the same cave pieces as toy, but less 2013-12-12 22:26:19 Espyo kusachi is garden, renga is brick 2013-12-12 22:26:24 Espyo tsuchi is supposedly dirt 2013-12-12 22:26:37 Espyo I suppose "water" could also be another type, for water_tsuchi 2013-12-12 22:26:49 Espyo water-ike4 uses the swamp-like pieces 2013-12-12 22:26:53 Espyo thoughts? 2013-12-12 22:27:16 @PikFan you could ask the developers 2013-12-12 22:27:29 Espyo yeah 2013-12-12 22:27:36 Espyo too bad they would only reply in 2050 2013-12-12 22:27:45 @PikFan heh 2013-12-12 22:35:01 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: k.) 2013-12-12 23:20:21 @PikFan I am seriously loosing my temper with this guy 2013-12-12 23:20:48 @PikFan he destroys crystal nodules around geysers, but he doesn't know what they are and goes in the other way 2013-12-12 23:21:26 Espyo heh 2013-12-12 23:21:34 Espyo you're all ready when you get Pikmin 3 2013-12-12 23:21:40 Espyo or rather, you'll be ready 2013-12-12 23:22:11 @PikFan I feel like this guy hasn't played Pikmin before 2013-12-12 23:22:36 @PikFan it took him 3 days for the GoH 2013-12-12 23:22:58 @PikFan and this is the first day for the DT 2013-12-12 23:23:06 @PikFan and he hasn't even gotten a fruit yet 2013-12-12 23:23:10 Espyo wow 2013-12-12 23:23:29 @PikFan well, a fruit from the DT, I mean 2013-12-12 23:23:32 Espyo oh 2013-12-12 23:24:06 @PikFan good news, though 2013-12-12 23:24:14 @PikFan he's finally figured out how to work the map 2013-12-12 23:24:18 Espyo hehe 2013-12-12 23:24:29 @PikFan oh, yeah, another bad thing 2013-12-12 23:24:36 @PikFan he doesn't know how to charge 2013-12-12 23:25:30 @PikFan ...oh, he just got a fruit 2013-12-12 23:38:56 @PikFan interesting 2013-12-12 23:39:33 @PikFan the guy just got a data file, which says: "Yellow Pikmin are good at digging." 2013-12-12 23:40:00 Espyo hmm 2013-12-12 23:45:01 Miles A lot of people don't seem to know how to charge 2013-12-12 23:45:48 Miles He did skip building the two bridges in Distant Tundra though, right? 2013-12-12 23:57:24 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-12 23:57:37 @PikFan no 2013-12-12 23:57:58 @PikFan he built them 2013-12-12 23:58:02 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-13 00:27:35 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: bye) 2013-12-13 02:30:21 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-13 02:51:43 <-- 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(Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has quit 2013-12-13 20:10:39 --> Cactmas (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-13 20:20:27 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-13 20:35:19 @J hmm, only 3 interesting Ludum Dare themes in the final round 2013-12-13 20:35:26 @J see if you can guess which 2013-12-13 20:39:09 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: sleepy time) 2013-12-13 20:39:32 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-13 20:40:23 @J also, created my game repository: 2013-12-13 20:40:24 @J 35 files changed, 10979 insertions(+) 2013-12-13 20:41:55 Espyo game repository? 2013-12-13 20:42:24 Espyo Death is Useful, No Enemies, No Violence, You Only Get One 2013-12-13 20:42:27 Espyo oh, you said 3 2013-12-13 20:42:32 Espyo scratch no violence then 2013-12-13 20:43:25 @J git repository 2013-12-13 20:43:42 @J no enemies and no violence are boring and describe most games 2013-12-13 20:43:50 @J the others are correct 2013-12-13 20:43:54 Espyo most games that happen to have the theme 2013-12-13 20:44:00 Espyo not most games that have the theme on purpose 2013-12-13 20:44:16 @J I mean, they don't restrict you very much 2013-12-13 20:44:16 Espyo in that case, Break the System 2013-12-13 20:44:23 @J yes 2013-12-13 20:44:23 Espyo they do 2013-12-13 20:44:27 Espyo if you do like Tetris 2013-12-13 20:44:29 Espyo that follows the theme 2013-12-13 20:44:36 Espyo but you can do, like... 2013-12-13 20:44:40 Espyo uhm 2013-12-13 20:44:46 Espyo well, I'll think of something, maybe 2013-12-13 20:44:49 @J I think I've created about 2 games that don't follow those 2013-12-13 20:45:07 Espyo that don't follow No Violence and No Enemies? 2013-12-13 20:45:10 @J yeah 2013-12-13 20:45:12 Espyo so... a violent enemy game 2013-12-13 20:45:30 @J no, that don't follow at least one of them 2013-12-13 20:45:35 Espyo oh 2013-12-13 20:45:40 @J and here 'violence' = 'physics' 2013-12-13 20:45:41 @J ... 2013-12-13 20:46:16 @J anyway, there are obviously always alternative interpretations - like, maybe no enemies means you want a fight but no-one will fight you because they all love you, so you have to make people hate you 2013-12-13 20:46:29 Espyo yeah 2013-12-13 20:46:34 Espyo that's what I meant 2013-12-13 20:46:35 @J but I still prefer most of the others 2013-12-13 20:46:40 Espyo so those themes aren't that bad 2013-12-13 20:46:41 Espyo agreed, though 2013-12-13 20:46:50 Espyo specially Death is Useful 2013-12-13 20:46:54 Espyo but I can see what's going to happen already 2013-12-13 20:46:58 @J have you ever played 'Puzzle Game' by increpare? 2013-12-13 20:47:10 @J uh, sorry, 'Puzzles' 2013-12-13 20:47:11 Espyo you die, you leave a corpse, the corpse can be used as a platform 2013-12-13 20:47:14 Espyo cue 1500 games like that 2013-12-13 20:47:19 Espyo don't recall, don't think I did 2013-12-13 20:47:28 @J hmm, I made a game kind of like that, if you recall 2013-12-13 20:47:32 Espyo you did 2013-12-13 20:47:44 Espyo but that wasn't following a Death is Useful theme, was it? 2013-12-13 20:47:46 @J anyway, Puzzles is both very good and matches the death theme very well 2013-12-13 20:47:56 @J no, it wasn't 2013-12-13 20:48:22 @J the theme was 'alone' 2013-12-13 20:48:29 Espyo right 2013-12-13 20:48:32 Espyo say, random thought 2013-12-13 20:48:39 Espyo nobody's gonna bother to check every game's source code carefully 2013-12-13 20:48:47 Espyo what would it take for somebody to just stick a virus on a game? 2013-12-13 20:48:55 Espyo now I don't wanna judge games anymore 2013-12-13 20:50:16 @J I think it would be picked up pretty quickly 2013-12-13 20:50:25 @J but yeah, it would probably affect at least one person 2013-12-13 20:50:29 Espyo after a couple of people have been infected alerady 2013-12-13 20:50:31 Espyo *already 2013-12-13 20:50:34 Espyo mhm 2013-12-13 20:50:44 Espyo sure, I doubt that would happen, but 2013-12-13 20:50:53 Espyo what if someone goes too meta on the Break the System theme? 2013-12-13 23:00:10 @J okay, time to get some sleep 2013-12-13 23:00:27 @J I'll probably wake up fairly early to find out the theme, then think of ideas while I do stuff 2013-12-13 23:00:33 @J might be here at that point 2013-12-13 23:01:08 @J then when I have an idea, probably 9am-ish, I'm going to the meetup thing 2013-12-13 23:01:12 Espyo ditto 2013-12-13 23:01:20 Espyo I'll wake up at 10 AM though 2013-12-13 23:01:23 @J heh 2013-12-13 23:01:29 @J what if you went to sleep now? 2013-12-13 23:01:39 @J or did you mean 10am is early? 2013-12-13 23:01:40 Espyo if I wake up on a single-digit hour, I'm dead 2013-12-13 23:01:51 Espyo 10 AM is early for a guy who normally wakes up at noon 2013-12-13 23:01:53 Espyo i.e. me 2013-12-13 23:01:57 @J just change your clocks? 2013-12-13 23:02:04 Espyo ok, that's not true any more, I wake up at 11AM now 2013-12-13 23:02:07 Espyo hmm 2013-12-13 23:02:08 Espyo good idea 2013-12-13 23:02:17 Espyo I'll wake up at 8, but my clock will mark noon 2013-12-13 23:02:33 Espyo then I'll feel relaxed even though I slept 9 hours 2013-12-13 23:02:42 @J 9 hours = plety 2013-12-13 23:02:44 @J *plenty 2013-12-13 23:02:55 Espyo I hate undersleeping, but truth be told, it is kinda plenty 2013-12-13 23:03:04 Espyo so long as I don't spend my days draining my energy on classes 2013-12-13 23:03:06 Espyo which is what happens 2013-12-13 23:03:21 Espyo good thing right now I only have 2 days in which I wake up early 2013-12-13 23:03:25 Espyo my schedule is a bit crazy 2013-12-13 23:03:48 @J it is if you wake up at 11 2013-12-13 23:03:58 @J well, anyway, I'm gone now 2013-12-13 23:03:58 @J bye 2013-12-13 23:04:04 Espyo bye 2013-12-13 23:16:08 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-13 23:17:38 <-- Testyo (Testyo@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-13 23:19:50 --> PikFan 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#pikipedia 2013-12-14 10:10:45 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-14 10:18:06 --> Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-14 10:49:08 --> Scr7_ (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-14 10:50:37 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by Scr7_))) 2013-12-14 10:50:39 -- Scr7_ is now known as Scr7 2013-12-14 11:24:26 Espyo J: what keys do you use for DVORAK-WASD, then? 2013-12-14 12:33:01 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-14 13:40:46 @J ,aoe 2013-12-14 13:42:43 Espyo got it 2013-12-14 14:57:12 Espyo well, it took me far too long to realize that I'm not checking if the character is grounded before being able to jump 2013-12-14 15:01:48 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-14 15:06:11 @J always happens 2013-12-14 15:24:41 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-14 15:57:53 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-14 16:45:48 <-- 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though I'm starting to think I undershot it 2013-12-14 19:52:21 Espyo I think I might have too much time for the simplifications I'm making 2013-12-14 19:52:28 Espyo though on the other hand, I know I can't be overconfident 2013-12-14 19:52:32 Espyo what about you? 2013-12-14 19:53:51 @J there's always time for more polish 2013-12-14 19:53:59 Espyo yeah, there is 2013-12-14 19:54:00 @J it's going okay 2013-12-14 19:54:07 @J still not sure how it'll turn out - whether it'll be fun 2013-12-14 19:54:08 Espyo I know I'll have time tomorrow to make it all detailed 2013-12-14 19:54:11 Espyo but I meant the overall idea 2013-12-14 19:54:17 Espyo I've got a bit of the same problem 2013-12-14 19:54:26 @J I have all the gameplay, but the only arena is boring and there's no graphics and sounds 2013-12-14 19:54:29 Espyo it's a puzzle game, so I guess I can always rely on puzzle elements being there 2013-12-14 19:54:40 Espyo but is your gameplay going? 2013-12-14 19:54:51 Espyo oh, that was literally the start of the message 2013-12-14 19:54:54 Espyo that's odd, I missed it 2013-12-14 20:03:31 @J I'll elaborate after food 2013-12-14 20:03:42 Espyo mhm 2013-12-14 20:35:15 @J so someone I know is still deciding which compiler to use 2013-12-14 20:35:27 Espyo they haven't started yet? 2013-12-14 20:38:27 @J [11:38:10] @Trubydoor basically, it cant deal with value initializing a struct with {} as a non 2013-12-14 20:38:27 @J static data member of another struct 2013-12-14 20:38:27 @J [11:38:12] @Trubydoor that just crashes the compiler 2013-12-14 20:38:27 @J [11:38:25] @Trubydoor I sent in a bug report but they haven't responded 2013-12-14 20:38:27 @J [11:41:09] @Trubydoor which is a bit naughty given that I have a legitimate copy of VS2013 Ultimate,and for all they know I paid for it 2013-12-14 20:39:11 Espyo pfft 2013-12-14 20:39:21 Espyo do they really think they can have anything working on a VS compiler? 2013-12-14 20:39:33 Espyo not to mention bring a bug to microsoft's attention? 2013-12-14 20:39:34 Espyo hah 2013-12-14 20:43:23 @J okay, my idea 2013-12-14 20:43:37 Espyo mhm, shoot 2013-12-14 20:43:44 @J 2-player battle 2013-12-14 20:43:48 @J fight with mines 2013-12-14 20:43:58 Espyo mines a la touch-sensitive mines? 2013-12-14 20:43:58 @J you can use as many dummy mines as you want, but have only one real mine 2013-12-14 20:44:06 @J no, remote detonation 2013-12-14 20:44:09 Espyo ah 2013-12-14 20:44:13 Espyo more like C4 then 2013-12-14 20:44:28 @J except that one player's real mine is a dud 2013-12-14 20:44:35 @J and neither player knows which 2013-12-14 20:44:40 Espyo hmmmm 2013-12-14 20:44:50 Espyo doesn't seem too fair for now, but go on 2013-12-14 20:44:55 @J you also have a limited number of times to use a laser thing to destroy every mine 2013-12-14 20:45:02 @J and that's it 2013-12-14 20:45:10 Espyo hm, so let me see if I got it 2013-12-14 20:45:13 @J so, as I say, no idea how well it'll work, but 2013-12-14 20:45:14 Espyo you can blow up on your own mines? 2013-12-14 20:45:17 @J yes 2013-12-14 20:45:19 Espyo ah 2013-12-14 20:45:23 Espyo ok, then that's fairer 2013-12-14 20:45:27 Espyo seems kinda fun 2013-12-14 20:45:36 Espyo but I think the best bet would be to make it as chaotic as possible 2013-12-14 20:45:43 Espyo go for chaotic fun instead of strategic fun 2013-12-14 20:45:44 @J if either player dies, the other wins 2013-12-14 20:45:45 Espyo /new terms 2013-12-14 20:45:56 @J if neither player dies, the player without the mine wins 2013-12-14 20:46:04 Espyo time out? 2013-12-14 20:46:16 @J I don't see any reason to 2013-12-14 20:46:20 @J matches shouldn't last long 2013-12-14 20:46:30 Espyo right, but how can a match end with no deaths? 2013-12-14 20:46:40 @J because only one player had a mine 2013-12-14 20:46:45 @J so that player missed, so he lost 2013-12-14 20:46:59 Espyo oh 2013-12-14 20:47:05 Espyo right, when they detonate their real mine 2013-12-14 20:47:13 Espyo fair enough 2013-12-14 20:47:28 Espyo but still, making it more chaotic would probably be best 2013-12-14 20:47:35 Espyo powerups could start deviating from the theme too much, though 2013-12-14 20:47:48 @J I'm not sure if it would be better if both players had a working mine 2013-12-14 20:48:00 @J yes, I thought about powerups, but only mobility powerups 2013-12-14 20:48:18 @J speed, flight, slow down the other guy, throw mines really far, etc. 2013-12-14 20:48:39 Espyo right 2013-12-14 20:48:55 Espyo but unless you incorporate the theme into the powerups, I don't think they'd be a good idea 2013-12-14 20:49:01 Espyo on that note, only having one real mine seems good too 2013-12-14 20:49:10 Espyo and having two might make the game less original, IMO 2013-12-14 20:50:36 Espyo ok, so mine is a puzzle game set in a cave 2013-12-14 20:50:56 Espyo for every cave in your roadtrip, you get to take only one of each type of tool 2013-12-14 20:51:02 Espyo or only certain types of tools, I'm still not sure 2013-12-14 20:51:17 Espyo these include ziplines, grapple hooks, etc. 2013-12-14 20:51:32 Espyo your job is to go on each cave and collect a jewel, then return 2013-12-14 20:51:42 Espyo however the caves have a long spell that punish greed 2013-12-14 20:51:56 Espyo they reward those brave enough to venture through with a jewel 2013-12-14 20:52:05 Espyo but if they so much as touch another one, the cave crumbles on them 2013-12-14 20:52:22 Espyo so not only do you only have one tool of each (or something of the sort), you can also only have one jewel 2013-12-14 20:52:37 Espyo the puzzle will come from picking the right tools, the right spots to use them, and the paths to take 2013-12-14 20:52:49 Espyo a bit like Spelunky meets Lemmings 2013-12-14 20:54:56 @J [20:48:55] Espyo but unless you incorporate the theme into the powerups, I don't think they'd be a 2013-12-14 20:54:56 @J good idea 2013-12-14 20:55:00 @J nah, there'd be no problem 2013-12-14 20:55:18 @J [20:49:10] Espyo and having two might make the game less original, IMO 2013-12-14 20:55:20 Espyo I mean that the theme wouldn't be felt as much 2013-12-14 20:55:25 @J it's the dummies that make it original, I think 2013-12-14 20:55:43 Espyo dunno, I'm really fond of that "only one of you having a real one but neither one knowing" thing 2013-12-14 20:56:20 @J not sure how Lemmings comes into it 2013-12-14 20:56:39 @J mm, yeah, I do just want to see what happens 2013-12-14 20:57:07 @J there is an issue, though: it's pretty hard to play with 2 players using the keyboard 2013-12-14 20:57:30 Espyo heh, only in how you have to pick what tools to use and where 2013-12-14 20:57:46 Espyo I mostly say Lemmings because I checked Lemmings 2's list of abilities and took out a few 2013-12-14 20:57:58 Espyo platform, cannon, shovel, pickaxe ,... 2013-12-14 20:58:08 Espyo hm 2013-12-14 20:58:11 Espyo what are your controls? 2013-12-14 20:58:18 Espyo uh... you may wanna answer in key positions 2013-12-14 20:58:20 Espyo not key names 2013-12-14 20:58:41 @J wasd/arrow keys 2013-12-14 20:58:52 Espyo for player 1/2? 2013-12-14 20:58:58 @J then each player needs 4 extra buttons 2013-12-14 20:59:00 @J yes 2013-12-14 20:59:02 Espyo four? 2013-12-14 20:59:12 @J throw dummy mine, throw real mine, detonate mines, use lasers 2013-12-14 20:59:25 Espyo hm, right 2013-12-14 20:59:41 @J on a controller, I'm using left analogue, 4 buttons (one to jump) and a trigger 2013-12-14 20:59:45 @J and that works fine 2013-12-14 21:00:11 Espyo I guess making the controls configurable would be your bes tbet 2013-12-14 21:00:12 Espyo *best bet 2013-12-14 21:00:21 @J not easy in the time limit 2013-12-14 21:00:40 @J though making it easy is on the game engine's todo list 2013-12-14 21:00:40 Espyo it's not that hard to load files in C++ 2013-12-14 21:00:47 Espyo which automatically means it's ultra easy to do it in Python 2013-12-14 21:00:48 Espyo so... 2013-12-14 21:00:49 @J oh, you mean by editing a file? 2013-12-14 21:00:52 Espyo yeah 2013-12-14 21:00:55 Espyo no menus or anything 2013-12-14 21:00:57 @J meh, no-one would do that 2013-12-14 21:01:10 @J if they would, it's already a file 2013-12-14 21:01:11 Espyo how so? 2013-12-14 21:01:17 Espyo uh, not following 2013-12-14 21:01:23 @J because it's a Ludum Dare game 2013-12-14 21:01:51 @J but yeah, it is configurable already, in a sense 2013-12-14 21:02:22 @J http://sprunge.us/aPPT 2013-12-14 21:02:36 @J no 2nd player gamepad support yet 2013-12-14 21:02:37 Espyo oh, you're using your engine? 2013-12-14 21:02:41 @J yes 2013-12-14 21:02:44 Espyo oh 2013-12-14 21:02:51 Espyo that changes what I was thinking then 2013-12-14 21:03:03 @J I've used it for the last few games I've made 2013-12-14 21:03:21 Espyo Wearhouse was one of them, I think 2013-12-14 21:03:24 @J at least partially to find bugs/areas for improvement 2013-12-14 21:03:33 @J not initially, but I recently-ish rewrote it to use it 2013-12-14 21:05:28 @J I already have a sizeable list of game engine changes from today 2013-12-14 21:05:29 @J http://sprunge.us/DWeG 2013-12-14 21:06:03 Espyo HEH 2013-12-14 21:06:04 Espyo caps 2013-12-14 21:13:31 @J okay, a bit more of a break, then I'll try to get at least some of the sounds done tonight 2013-12-14 21:13:52 Espyo you plan on using sfxr? 2013-12-14 21:14:42 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-14 21:15:28 Espyo (dinner) 2013-12-14 21:53:05 Espyo (back) 2013-12-14 21:56:32 @J [21:13:52] Espyo you plan on using sfxr? 2013-12-14 21:56:44 @J yeah, though it'd be nice to get a microphone some day 2013-12-14 21:56:54 @J a decent one, I mean 2013-12-14 21:57:00 @J that isn't attached to a huge laptop 2013-12-14 21:57:06 Espyo right 2013-12-14 21:57:12 Espyo but what do you plan on recording with it? 2013-12-14 21:57:18 @J sound effects 2013-12-14 21:57:21 @J ? 2013-12-14 21:57:23 Espyo right, but from your mouth? 2013-12-14 21:57:28 @J oh 2013-12-14 21:57:41 @J well, it depends 2013-12-14 21:58:00 @J for example, Wearhouse, I recorded the changing clothes sound by ruffling some bed sheets 2013-12-14 21:58:07 @J *in Wearhous 2013-12-14 21:58:07 @J e 2013-12-14 21:58:15 Espyo neat 2013-12-14 21:58:22 Espyo but isn't it too noisy over there, anyway? 2013-12-14 21:58:23 @J knocks and steps and stuff would be fairly easy 2013-12-14 21:58:32 Espyo or are you not planning on doing it for this game at all? 2013-12-14 21:58:44 @J no, not for this game - like I said, no microphone 2013-12-14 21:59:09 Espyo there's the laptop one 2013-12-14 21:59:11 @J but I left the meetup around 7pm for food and because it would be too noisy to do any sound stuff 2013-12-14 21:59:16 @J like I said, that's horrible 2013-12-14 21:59:25 Espyo right, but you used it for Wearhouse 2013-12-14 21:59:36 @J no, I used my brother' camera 2013-12-14 21:59:39 @J *brother's 2013-12-14 21:59:41 Espyo ah 2013-12-14 22:00:26 @J I wouldn't worry so much if the sound were just low quality, but it's the noise that you get 2013-12-14 22:00:37 Espyo right 2013-12-14 22:00:47 Espyo though it can be kinda removed with Audacity 2013-12-14 22:01:07 Espyo and you know what, it doesn't do a bad job at it 2013-12-14 22:01:11 @J eh, not really 2013-12-14 22:01:15 @J it gets kind of robotic 2013-12-14 22:01:18 Espyo hm 2013-12-14 22:01:41 Espyo well, you know how the Pikmin 2 OSTs that are always lying around always have an annoying buzzing? 2013-12-14 22:01:50 @J they do? 2013-12-14 22:01:54 Espyo it's most notable on Perplexing Pool sunset, IIRC 2013-12-14 22:02:14 Espyo or Awakening Wood sunset, mostly when it gets quiet 2013-12-14 22:02:21 @J yeah, I think I know what you mean 2013-12-14 22:02:26 Espyo I used Audacity to remove it, and it worked wonderfully 2013-12-14 22:02:37 Espyo never tried sound effects recorded from a mic though 2013-12-14 22:02:56 @J I have, not with much success 2013-12-14 22:03:06 @J I mean, it gets better, and I did use it with the camera 2013-12-14 22:03:17 @J but not always good enough 2013-12-14 22:03:30 Espyo hm, right 2013-12-14 22:04:21 @J well, I could try 2013-12-14 22:04:40 @J might annoy the neighbours... 2013-12-14 22:04:48 Espyo heh 2013-12-14 22:04:58 Espyo now, to simulate a mine explosion... 2013-12-14 22:05:14 Espyo you probably want to precariously hang all your decorations, connected them all to the same string, and pull hard 2013-12-14 22:24:06 @J well...I managed a laser 2013-12-14 22:24:20 @J 1/10 sounds done 2013-12-14 22:24:28 Espyo heh 2013-12-14 22:25:08 @J to generate a crumbling laser-ified mine sound, I could use sand, but it's not like I have any 2013-12-14 22:26:44 Espyo yeah 2013-12-14 22:28:19 @J this sort of stuff doesn't seem loud enough to pick up (I tried some gravy granules) 2013-12-14 22:58:47 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-14 22:58:47 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-14 23:03:13 Espyo hey 2013-12-14 23:03:22 Espyo me and J are working on our Ludum Dare games right now 2013-12-14 23:03:23 @PikFan hi 2013-12-14 23:03:29 @PikFan sounds fun 2013-12-14 23:03:40 Espyo it is 2013-12-14 23:08:11 @J http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/explode2.ogg 2013-12-14 23:08:17 @J not entirely sure what I've done 2013-12-14 23:08:20 @J but I don't like it 2013-12-14 23:10:37 Espyo sounds sfxry 2013-12-14 23:10:47 Espyo can't really say I find it that great either 2013-12-14 23:11:03 @J everything's too short and not explosiony enough 2013-12-14 23:11:51 @J http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/laser.ogg 2013-12-14 23:12:33 Espyo well, that single noise made me think that the theme for the final boss battle in Sonic 2 was going to start 2013-12-14 23:12:41 Espyo it sounds kinda the same, but the note is the exact same one 2013-12-14 23:12:49 Espyo but it sounds lasery enough 2013-12-14 23:13:33 @J I just make 2 saw waves with different frequencies, then a tiny fade out 2013-12-14 23:14:45 Espyo right 2013-12-14 23:20:21 @J *made 2013-12-14 23:27:13 --> 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18:33:46 -- BetaMaster is now known as brBetaMaster 2013-12-15 18:33:50 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-15 18:56:14 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-15 19:25:55 Espyo well, I managed to make a main character sprite I'm super proud about 2013-12-15 19:26:01 Espyo but I'll never be able to do the rest of the frames of animation 2013-12-15 19:26:11 Espyo my talent was all worn out on that single frame 2013-12-15 20:15:38 Espyo I get bonus points if the main character's swimming animation is horrendous, right? 2013-12-15 20:25:24 Espyo .........the swimming animation is even better than the walking animation 2013-12-15 20:41:54 --> Nieton (Mibbit@uknv-73-073-14-851.clppva.east.verizon.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-15 20:42:22 Nieton Oh good, EVERYONE is an idler 2013-12-15 20:42:23 Nieton Feels like TF2. 2013-12-15 20:42:35 <-- Nieton (Mibbit@uknv-73-073-14-851.clppva.east.verizon.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-15 20:48:18 Espyo mmmk 2013-12-15 21:15:53 -- 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layout 2013-12-15 22:35:12 @PikFan take that, wikia 2013-12-15 22:36:12 @PikFan is it me or do people write way too much on wikia 2013-12-15 22:36:23 @PikFan they make things too long, it seems 2013-12-15 22:41:37 @J more like people write stuff, then others come and add stuff later, because adding is easier than rewriting 2013-12-15 22:41:56 @J it's a problem on every wiki, but moreso on ones that aren't very well-curated 2013-12-15 22:42:07 @J anyway, must continue to games 2013-12-15 22:42:15 @J last-minute particle system, here I come 2013-12-15 22:45:12 @PikFan I see 2013-12-15 22:49:47 Espyo heh 2013-12-15 22:49:54 Espyo I'm just about to implement the particle system too 2013-12-15 22:51:42 @J I actually need it because I can't be bothered to make actual graphics for some things 2013-12-15 22:51:45 @J they can be just particles 2013-12-15 22:51:57 Espyo heh 2013-12-15 22:53:34 @J I also don't have a name 2013-12-15 22:53:35 @J (help?) 2013-12-15 22:54:49 Espyo hmm 2013-12-15 22:54:55 Espyo Dud Battle? 2013-12-15 23:05:53 @J meh 2013-12-15 23:06:12 @J 'mine' encourages puns, but I don't know if I want to 2013-12-15 23:11:31 Espyo might as well 2013-12-15 23:11:34 Espyo for extra humor points 2013-12-15 23:11:38 Espyo on the other hand, it's a pun 2013-12-15 23:11:40 Espyo so negative points 2013-12-15 23:17:54 @J so my game engine has a weird graphics bug where sometimes things take a while to get removed 2013-12-15 23:18:12 @J removed from the screen, that is 2013-12-15 23:18:16 @J less than a second, still 2013-12-15 23:19:23 Espyo hm 2013-12-15 23:19:27 Espyo animation-related? 2013-12-15 23:19:28 @J or to change state 2013-12-15 23:19:37 @J hmm, possibly 2013-12-15 23:20:15 Espyo well, can't say at all if it's the same thing, but... 2013-12-15 23:20:16 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: e) 2013-12-15 23:20:22 Espyo the way I have animations set up is a set of frames, obviously 2013-12-15 23:20:25 Espyo each frame has a duration 2013-12-15 23:20:37 Espyo when an animation is ticked, the time remaining for the current frame goes down 2013-12-15 23:20:41 Espyo if it reaches 0, next frame 2013-12-15 23:21:09 Espyo though if the time removed from the tick is so much that the next frame should've already played and disappeared, it'll go to the next frame regardless 2013-12-15 23:21:20 Espyo which'll exist for a single frame, until it realizes THEN that it shouldn't be on this frame 2013-12-15 23:21:27 Espyo so maybe a bunch of those are causing delay? 2013-12-15 23:21:35 Espyo if it's even remotely similar to what I said 2013-12-15 23:23:46 @J spent 15 minutes trying to work out why the particles with an increasing area covered were moving down-right 2013-12-15 23:24:11 @J assuming the whole time that a graphic's resize anchor default was its centre 2013-12-15 23:24:15 @J but it's actually the top-left 2013-12-15 23:24:27 @J so as it gets bigger, it's top-left stays where it is 2013-12-15 23:26:02 Espyo hehe 2013-12-15 23:26:33 @J I'll consider your animation suggestion once I'm closer to finishing 2013-12-15 23:36:21 @J okay, because of integer rounding, the whole particle system vibrates 2013-12-15 23:36:28 @J which actually looks good, because it's an explosion 2013-12-15 23:39:24 Espyo heh 2013-12-15 23:39:31 Espyo you going to leave it in? 2013-12-15 23:43:34 @J yes 2013-12-15 23:43:39 @J it's not like I could easily fix it 2013-12-15 23:43:41 Espyo how deliciously hacky 2013-12-15 23:47:09 @J the laziest thing: I show who won by fading the screen to their colour 2013-12-15 23:47:15 @J black in a tie 2013-12-15 23:47:24 @J *for a tie, I guess 2013-12-15 23:50:36 Espyo hehe 2013-12-15 23:50:43 Espyo no text at all in the game? 2013-12-15 23:57:10 @J yes, but not for that 2013-12-15 23:57:15 @J only for the intro screen 2013-12-15 23:57:25 @J which is beautifully horrible 2013-12-15 23:58:04 Espyo time for the intro screen myself 2013-12-15 23:58:10 Espyo which will probably be beautifully horrible as well 2013-12-15 23:58:38 @J okay, I discovered why one of the animations was hanging around on the last frame 2013-12-15 23:58:47 Espyo oh? 2013-12-15 23:59:01 @J I had set a timeout to call the function to remove it in 1s, and just above that was '# TODO: use animation callback' 2013-12-15 23:59:11 @J you'll never guess how I fixed it 2013-12-15 23:59:44 Espyo remove it in 0.999999s? 2013-12-16 00:01:14 @J no, use the animation callback 2013-12-16 00:01:30 Espyo aww, that's not hacky 2013-12-16 00:01:35 @J hey, I thought I was being rhetorical 2013-12-16 00:02:02 Espyo heh, you weren't 2013-12-16 00:02:03 @J it's nice being able to copy/paste hex colours from GIMP straight into the code without modifying them 2013-12-16 00:02:36 Espyo I don't use hex for colors on my code, but I do copy the hex between Paint.Net and Inkscape 2013-12-16 00:03:52 @J I support hex, with 3, 4, 6 or 8 digits, with and without #; or (r, g, b) or (r, g, b, a) 2013-12-16 00:04:26 Espyo ooh, nice 2013-12-16 00:04:36 @J or a number 0xrrggbbaa 2013-12-16 00:04:41 Espyo I just use what Allegro wants, though, no need to be fancier 2013-12-16 00:04:49 Espyo which is al_map_rgb() or al_map_rgba() 2013-12-16 00:05:21 @J sure, except it's faster both to write '000' and to understand it 2013-12-16 00:05:40 Espyo yep 2013-12-16 00:05:45 @J okay, need to design a level and come up with a name, then I'm done 2013-12-16 00:06:36 Espyo I still have to do a fair bit 2013-12-16 00:06:46 Espyo the main menu, particles, animating the enemy sprite 2013-12-16 00:12:04 @J http://i.imgur.com/aYjeTsD.png http://i.imgur.com/kftFNuf.png http://i.imgur.com/LjxsflZ.png http://i.imgur.com/ImwWCVx.png 2013-12-16 00:16:46 Espyo nice 2013-12-16 00:16:48 Espyo it as a "you" style 2013-12-16 00:19:04 @J by which you probably mean a mish-mash of styles 2013-12-16 00:19:26 @J also, yes, those are boiler-shaped tanks with spider-like legs 2013-12-16 00:20:15 Espyo heh, thought so 2013-12-16 00:20:48 @J so, the other animation lag thing is that when a mine lands on the ground, it doesn't flip to the correct angle for a noticeable period of time 2013-12-16 00:20:54 @J on walls and ceilings, it's fine 2013-12-16 00:20:57 @J which is really strange 2013-12-16 00:21:03 @J OH 2013-12-16 00:21:06 @J I KNOW THINGS 2013-12-16 00:21:08 @J I mean 2013-12-16 00:21:23 @J I just worked out that the difference is because that would be the default angle 2013-12-16 00:21:29 @J so there must be a bug with setting defaults 2013-12-16 00:21:41 @J in fact, I just remembered I found the same thing with flipping 2013-12-16 00:22:36 @J so...when you set a transform to the default value, possibly only for animations, it doesn't get applied until another change occurs (in these 2 cases, always when the next frame shows) 2013-12-16 00:25:16 Espyo ah, makes sense 2013-12-16 00:48:50 @J http://i.imgur.com/n2LD4NF.png 2013-12-16 00:48:53 @J okay, there's the level 2013-12-16 00:50:07 @J there are already 752 entries 2013-12-16 00:53:01 Espyo WOW 2013-12-16 00:53:02 Espyo caps 2013-12-16 01:00:40 @J I'm considering the name 'anticlimax', because it's not unlikely that no-one will get hurt 2013-12-16 01:01:51 Espyo hmm, right 2013-12-16 01:01:53 Espyo but it's kinda vague 2013-12-16 01:02:06 @J true 2013-12-16 01:04:38 @J 'boom', for the same reasons 2013-12-16 01:05:05 @J /evensubtler 2013-12-16 01:05:16 @J strange, I forgot how to do the 0-width character thing 2013-12-16 01:05:30 @J I think it was ctrl-something, ctrl-O 2013-12-16 01:05:35 Espyo uhm... 2013-12-16 01:05:43 Espyo there's the fixed-width space 2013-12-16 01:07:13 @J yeah, that 2013-12-16 01:07:21 @J forgot how to thingy it 2013-12-16 01:07:25 @J anyway, boom it is 2013-12-16 01:07:30 @J lowercase > all 2013-12-16 01:08:08 Espyo no, it's ugly 2013-12-16 01:09:43 Espyo also lowercase is only > uppercase 2013-12-16 01:09:57 @J lies 2013-12-16 01:09:59 Espyo it's not > ~, for instance 2013-12-16 01:10:03 @J I should kick you right now 2013-12-16 01:10:04 Espyo or {, or |, or } 2013-12-16 01:10:27 Espyo I wonder how long it'll take you to realize I'm talking about ASCII values 2013-12-16 01:14:14 Espyo hah! 2013-12-16 01:14:35 Espyo to check if particles are working fine, I removed the death code and replaced it with just a spray of red particles 2013-12-16 01:14:42 Espyo but because I never die, I'm just a walking fountain of blood 2013-12-16 01:16:55 @J great 2013-12-16 01:16:59 @J why not leave it in? 2013-12-16 01:17:08 Espyo because you're a walking corpse 2013-12-16 01:17:21 Espyo I'll leave it in for people to play around as a walking corpse during the fadeout 2013-12-16 01:17:26 Espyo if I make it in time for a fadeout 2013-12-16 01:17:30 Espyo I wanted to do more levels, but... 2013-12-16 01:18:18 @J okay, submitted 2013-12-16 01:18:22 @J now I really need to sleep 2013-12-16 01:18:23 @J bye 2013-12-16 01:19:47 Espyo bye 2013-12-16 02:43:05 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@x74-299-89-348.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit 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all I'm saying is that one of the arguments is an animation 2013-12-16 22:35:15 @J they're all one problem 2013-12-16 22:35:22 Espyo and if it's omitted, just create a default one 2013-12-16 22:35:26 Espyo that works in other things 2013-12-16 22:35:39 @J I don't really know how constructors work in C++ 2013-12-16 22:35:50 @J it gives a reason why each constructor is invalid 2013-12-16 22:36:02 Espyo they're goofy, that's what they are 2013-12-16 22:36:08 @J I don't really understand why it thinks you're passing in an animation 2013-12-16 22:36:14 Espyo did you change anything in the code to fix other things? 2013-12-16 22:37:00 @J probably no more helpful, but gcc says: http://paste2.org/Wt3Y28aZ 2013-12-16 22:37:09 @J yes, I added '#include ' to that file 2013-12-16 22:37:37 Espyo right 2013-12-16 22:37:40 Espyo dunno why it needed it though 2013-12-16 22:37:46 Espyo anyway, screw optional parameters 2013-12-16 22:37:50 Espyo I'll do things the hard way 2013-12-16 22:38:20 @J because you were using 'string'? 2013-12-16 22:38:59 Espyo no, I mean VS compiled just fine 2013-12-16 22:39:03 Espyo without any include of thesort 2013-12-16 22:39:04 Espyo *sort 2013-12-16 22:39:20 Espyo that file = vars.cpp? 2013-12-16 22:39:21 @J because, as we've discovered before, VS includes standard library stuff without telling you 2013-12-16 22:39:22 @J .h 2013-12-16 22:39:23 Espyo or vars.h? 2013-12-16 22:39:27 Espyo but but but 2013-12-16 22:39:30 Espyo it never does 2013-12-16 22:39:32 Espyo except sometimes 2013-12-16 22:39:41 Espyo I always have to tell it to include string when I use strings 2013-12-16 22:39:43 @J but still sometimes 2013-12-16 22:39:45 Espyo but not sometimes...? 2013-12-16 22:39:47 Espyo eugh 2013-12-16 22:40:08 @J so, if I understand this, you can make an animation by copying another animation, by defining frames, or from nothing? 2013-12-16 22:40:25 Espyo ok, so they're all not the same problem 2013-12-16 22:40:29 Espyo one problem is creating objects 2013-12-16 22:40:35 Espyo you can pass either a static bitmap or an animation 2013-12-16 22:40:46 Espyo most of them use static bitmaps, so I made the animation parameter optional 2013-12-16 22:41:10 Espyo and if the animation parameter is missing, it /should/ just fill in the "animation" attribute with an empty one 2013-12-16 22:41:13 @J oh, also, the source download is missing img/ 2013-12-16 22:41:16 Espyo (using the empty constructor for that) 2013-12-16 22:41:27 Espyo but apparently that's chinese to it 2013-12-16 22:41:31 Espyo oh, I didn't want to duplicate files 2013-12-16 22:41:37 Espyo src is for... source code 2013-12-16 22:41:38 Espyo not resources 2013-12-16 22:41:44 @J mm, I guess 2013-12-16 22:41:59 @J should still be able to run it with just that distribution, though 2013-12-16 22:42:14 Espyo yeah, guess so 2013-12-16 22:42:20 Espyo oh, give me the makefile when you can 2013-12-16 22:42:29 Espyo and Firefox recognizes makefile as a valid word 2013-12-16 22:42:31 Espyo ................. 2013-12-16 22:42:33 Espyo but not "Firefox" 2013-12-16 22:42:48 @J fun 2013-12-16 22:43:01 @J I just copied one of the others I made and changed the binary name 2013-12-16 22:43:09 @J I think PKRhythm's 2013-12-16 22:43:37 Espyo hm, fair enough 2013-12-16 22:43:48 Espyo shouldn't the Pikmin fangame engine one's be more... 2013-12-16 22:43:51 Espyo uh, correct? 2013-12-16 22:43:55 Espyo you made it more recently, so... 2013-12-16 22:43:57 Espyo less past J mistakes 2013-12-16 22:44:12 @J maybe 2013-12-16 22:44:16 @J past J is very silly 2013-12-16 22:44:31 @J I don't think I have that, since you added it to git 2013-12-16 22:45:03 Espyo mhm 2013-12-16 22:45:49 Espyo wait, now that I'm actually reading g++'s output 2013-12-16 22:45:59 Espyo it's actually explaining why the constructors for animation aren't valid 2013-12-16 22:46:01 Espyo that's great! 2013-12-16 22:46:03 @J hmm, it just makes it search for source files recursively (not needed here) and uses C++0x (also apparently not needed here) 2013-12-16 22:46:06 Espyo VS' compiler doesn't do that 2013-12-16 22:46:08 @J ...they both do 2013-12-16 22:46:22 @J and I also pointed it out 2013-12-16 22:46:25 Espyo yeah, gcc too 2013-12-16 22:46:32 Espyo I guess I must've skimmed through 2013-12-16 22:46:32 @J [22:35:50] @J it gives a reason why each constructor is invalid 2013-12-16 22:46:50 Espyo right, at first, I thought it didn't even recognize I was trying to call a constructor 2013-12-16 22:47:02 Espyo I thought it thought I was being random 2013-12-16 22:47:36 @J which would be fair enough; you often are 2013-12-16 22:49:02 @J also, I like your progress notes 2013-12-16 22:49:13 @J it would be nice to look back at how long I took for everything 2013-12-16 22:49:23 @J I think a few of the images took an hour each 2013-12-16 22:49:43 Espyo mine didn't take that long, but still 2013-12-16 22:49:48 Espyo also yesterday I made a last-minute change to all levels 2013-12-16 22:49:59 Espyo made all levels have 2 jewels 2013-12-16 22:50:06 Espyo ...except that makes some steps of some levels optional 2013-12-16 22:56:10 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: r) 2013-12-16 22:59:44 Espyo ok, try it now https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/Permanent/Caverns_of_the_Curse_of_Greed_src.7z 2013-12-16 23:16:28 @J well done, we've uncovered a million other errors 2013-12-16 23:17:44 Espyo yay 2013-12-16 23:21:28 @J okay, reduced to 2 errors 2013-12-16 23:21:47 @J and they're the same as before, but in different places 2013-12-16 23:21:51 Espyo ... 2013-12-16 23:22:12 @J http://paste2.org/1zYXvwL1 2013-12-16 23:23:42 @J okay, that's ridiculous 2013-12-16 23:24:10 @J 'ls' has so many options that when I accidentally didn't leave a gap between '-l' and some random text, it didn't find an invalid option until it met '/' 2013-12-16 23:24:24 @J every character up until then was a valid option 2013-12-16 23:24:36 Espyo what in the world is wrong with it? 2013-12-16 23:24:43 Espyo it's an animation() constructor with no parameters 2013-12-16 23:24:47 Espyo it exists! I created it! 2013-12-16 23:25:18 Espyo ls is like the ultimate complex Linux command showcase 2013-12-16 23:27:46 Espyo vars.h, line 43 2013-12-16 23:27:54 Espyo animation(animation &a2) { 2013-12-16 23:27:55 Espyo replace with 2013-12-16 23:27:58 Espyo animation(const animation &a2) { 2013-12-16 23:28:04 Espyo let's see if that's more for its liking 2013-12-16 23:31:28 @J [23:25:18] Espyo ls is like the ultimate complex Linux command showcase 2013-12-16 23:31:34 @J well, that's not completely true 2013-12-16 23:31:39 @J [j@j-laptop ~]$ man ls|wc 2013-12-16 23:31:39 @J 244 945 8010 2013-12-16 23:31:39 @J [j@j-laptop ~]$ man bash|wc 2013-12-16 23:31:39 @J 5445 41877 319979 2013-12-16 23:31:39 @J [j@j-laptop ~]$ man gcc|wc 2013-12-16 23:31:39 @J 17527 99889 835610 2013-12-16 23:31:39 @J [j@j-laptop ~]$ 2013-12-16 23:31:50 @J wordcount of the man page for ls, bash, gcc 2013-12-16 23:32:02 Espyo but gcc isn't bundled with any distro 2013-12-16 23:33:44 @J warning: comparison of unsigned expression < 0 is always 2013-12-16 23:33:45 @J false 2013-12-16 23:33:46 @J heheh 2013-12-16 23:33:59 Espyo ... 2013-12-16 23:34:04 Espyo I hate the VS compiler 2013-12-16 23:34:08 Espyo what line is that? 2013-12-16 23:34:22 @J functions.cpp, 48 and 50 2013-12-16 23:34:34 @J only a warning, though, so it's not blocking anything 2013-12-16 23:34:49 Espyo right 2013-12-16 23:34:56 Espyo still, I told VS to compile with warning level 4 2013-12-16 23:34:59 Espyo and it still didn't tell me about it 2013-12-16 23:35:08 @J okay, it actually started compiling, but still failed 2013-12-16 23:35:23 Espyo well, just changing the unsigned to signed on the function's header should work 2013-12-16 23:35:28 Espyo (also on functions.h) 2013-12-16 23:49:46 @J mm, got to go 2013-12-16 23:50:01 @J I can help again tomorrow if you want, maybe 2013-12-16 23:50:06 @J or I could just run the Windows version 2013-12-16 23:55:00 Espyo I do want help tomorrow 2013-12-16 23:55:06 Espyo if you please 2013-12-16 23:55:14 Espyo but bye 2013-12-17 01:21:52 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@z62-937-08-956.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-17 01:22:04 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z62-937-08-956.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-17 03:38:13 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-12-17 04:10:34 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-12-17 04:18:39 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 04:25:13 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-17 04:25:13 --> Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 04:25:57 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 04:51:46 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-17 11:29:10 --> Testyo (Testyo@v24-293-55-829.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 11:29:10 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-17 11:32:30 --> Espyo (Mibbit@v24-293-55-829.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 12:25:35 Espyo Testyo: memo J you really need to clean the recent changes on Pikipedi 2013-12-17 12:25:35 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for J saying: you really need to clean the recent changes on Pikipedi. 2013-12-17 12:25:56 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@v24-293-55-829.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: college) 2013-12-17 12:26:05 <-- Testyo (Testyo@v24-293-55-829.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: college) 2013-12-17 13:25:57 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-17 15:57:20 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 16:36:13 --> Espyo (Mibbit@v24-293-55-829.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 17:18:46 --> Testyo (Testyo@v24-293-55-829.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 17:18:46 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-17 17:54:43 <-- Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-17 18:39:42 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-17 18:50:20 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-17 19:25:47 --> Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 19:30:06 <-- Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-17 19:31:07 -- Cactmas is now known as Cactmas|AFK 2013-12-17 20:07:28 -- Cactmas|AFK is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-17 20:20:08 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 20:20:45 @J 'really need to' is what you say for 5 edits? 2013-12-17 20:20:45 Testyo Oh, J, you have a memo from Espyo, written on 17/12/2013 12:25 (GMT), saying: you really need to clean the recent changes on Pikipedia. 2013-12-17 20:20:56 @J what about when a real spammer comes along? 2013-12-17 20:21:02 Espyo well, I told you you needed to yesterday 2013-12-17 20:21:06 Espyo but I think I got netsplit 2013-12-17 20:21:09 Espyo so it never went through 2013-12-17 20:24:20 -- BetaMaster is now known as brBetaMaster 2013-12-17 20:30:59 @J I see 2013-12-17 20:31:05 @J but that wasn't my point 2013-12-17 20:31:37 Espyo I know 2013-12-17 20:31:39 Espyo but still 2013-12-17 21:19:06 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-17 21:19:18 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 21:19:18 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-17 21:19:18 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-17 21:19:18 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ brBetaMaster Cactmas Espyo J Miles Ringtailed-Fox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-17 21:19:18 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-12-17 21:19:18 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-17 21:19:18 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-17 21:19:19 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-17 21:19:19 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-17 22:19:21 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-17 22:19:33 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 22:19:33 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-17 22:19:33 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-17 22:19:33 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ brBetaMaster Cactmas Espyo J Miles Ringtailed-Fox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-17 22:19:33 -- Channel #pikipedia: 9 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 8 normals) 2013-12-17 22:19:33 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-17 22:19:33 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-17 22:19:34 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-17 22:19:34 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-17 22:22:04 @J https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1267706/ld28/index.html 2013-12-17 22:22:07 @J best falling animation ever 2013-12-17 22:22:37 @J oh, only if you pick magic 2013-12-17 22:23:31 -- brBetaMaster is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-17 22:25:35 Espyo heh, melon 2013-12-17 22:26:57 @J ... 2013-12-17 22:26:59 Espyo ah Firefox 2013-12-17 22:27:04 Espyo your audio delay is so jarring 2013-12-17 22:28:37 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-17 22:31:22 Espyo haha 2013-12-17 22:31:28 Espyo the falling animation 2013-12-17 22:31:47 Espyo I'm pretty happy with my character's falling animation (sprite), with the jacket flailing up a bit 2013-12-17 22:31:52 Espyo but this old man beats it 2013-12-17 22:32:38 Espyo ...is the game meant to freeze when I enter another realm? 2013-12-17 22:33:38 Espyo Timestamp: 17-12-2013 22:32:31 Error: IndexSizeError: Index or size is negative or greater than the allowed amount Source File: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1267706/ld28/script/melon.js Line: 3668 2013-12-17 22:33:40 Espyo oh well 2013-12-17 22:35:02 @J yeah, it fails in Firefox 2013-12-17 22:35:23 @J (game page: http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-28/?action=preview&uid=3129) 2013-12-17 22:38:56 Espyo b-but, I got more than one point... 2013-12-17 22:39:04 Espyo skill point, I mean 2013-12-17 22:39:07 @J http://sprunge.us/fLMd 2013-12-17 22:39:11 @J yeah, I know 2013-12-17 22:39:33 @J so this is clearly the linker 2013-12-17 22:43:39 Espyo oh, come on, C++ 2013-12-17 22:45:12 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: imma goooo) 2013-12-17 22:53:44 @J does it look like I'm missing any libraries? 2013-12-17 22:53:58 @J just not linking them, I mean 2013-12-17 22:54:06 @J does it depend on anything other than allegro? 2013-12-17 22:54:27 @J the first line gives the libraries being linked 2013-12-17 22:55:18 @J oh, never mind, fixed it 2013-12-17 22:55:31 @J may have been doing silly things, so it's my fault 2013-12-17 22:55:39 @J yay segfault 2013-12-17 22:59:24 @J ... 2013-12-17 22:59:29 @J it's the missing images again 2013-12-17 23:00:56 Espyo oh! 2013-12-17 23:01:04 Espyo after rating it, I was given a list of other games 2013-12-17 23:01:09 Espyo picked at random, I presume 2013-12-17 23:01:19 Espyo and this was the third result: http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-28/?action=preview&uid=5483 2013-12-17 23:06:07 @J hey look 2013-12-17 23:06:35 @J they're sorted by number of games the creator's rated and number of ratings the game's received 2013-12-17 23:06:52 @J the zipline thing doesn't seem to work? 2013-12-17 23:07:30 @J oh, you have to be against a wall 2013-12-17 23:08:43 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-17 23:08:52 Espyo wouldn't want a zipline floating in midair 2013-12-17 23:09:16 Espyo hmm, that means you have the 3rd most... 2013-12-17 23:09:19 Espyo thing? 2013-12-17 23:09:26 Espyo (games rated and ratings received) 2013-12-17 23:10:11 @J I guess so 2013-12-17 23:10:16 @J 'D' is what they call it 2013-12-17 23:10:28 @J probably because it's 2-player and recommends controllers 2013-12-17 23:10:33 @J and because I'm playing games right now 2013-12-17 23:10:48 Espyo oh, I see now 2013-12-17 23:11:20 @J you know, I actually can't work out level 4 2013-12-17 23:11:24 <-- Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 2013-12-17 23:11:31 @J you have to zipline to the door from a wall 2013-12-17 23:11:50 @J the only walls are the one on the left, the one with the gem on top, and the one on the right 2013-12-17 23:11:59 @J but I can't stand high enough next to any of those 2013-12-17 23:12:23 Espyo you have one item left to use 2013-12-17 23:12:26 Espyo or at least you should have 2013-12-17 23:12:31 @J ...but I can just thingy up there 2013-12-17 23:12:38 @J ohhh 2013-12-17 23:12:49 @J the 'zipline' isn't the horizontal one? 2013-12-17 23:12:53 Espyo it is 2013-12-17 23:12:56 Espyo grapple is the vertical one 2013-12-17 23:13:48 @J oh 2013-12-17 23:14:09 Espyo oh, it's possible to sequence break 2013-12-17 23:14:10 Espyo *shrug* 2013-12-17 23:14:12 Espyo too late now 2013-12-17 23:14:18 Espyo oh, no it's not possible 2013-12-17 23:14:48 Espyo level 5 is just the perfect level though 2013-12-17 23:15:01 Espyo it's everything I wanted the other levels to be 2013-12-17 23:15:23 Espyo you have two ways of completing it, and both ways require doing something before it's too late 2013-12-17 23:15:38 @J I don't really see how to zipline there, though 2013-12-17 23:15:39 @J in 4 2013-12-17 23:15:41 Espyo it's easy to figure out what you had to do, regardless of the path, but by the time you figure it out, you probably have to restart 2013-12-17 23:15:50 Espyo are you using the bridge? 2013-12-17 23:18:49 @J yes 2013-12-17 23:19:11 Espyo just before the zipline? 2013-12-17 23:19:24 Espyo well, the zipline is meant to go straight through the exit 2013-12-17 23:24:42 @J yeah, but I don't see how you stand high enough next to any of the walls to do that 2013-12-17 23:25:24 Espyo you have the bridge, which creates a platform, allowing you to stand on higher ground 2013-12-17 23:25:35 Espyo note that the bridge creates up to 3 bridges in front of you 2013-12-17 23:26:07 @J what's going on with 6? 2013-12-17 23:26:19 @J yes, but you can't stand high enough to place the bridge high enough? 2013-12-17 23:26:21 @J *. 2013-12-17 23:26:31 Espyo are you still stuck on 4 or what? 2013-12-17 23:30:07 @J no, I finished it, but not by using the zipline to reach the exit 2013-12-17 23:30:15 Espyo whaa 2013-12-17 23:30:18 Espyo how, then? 2013-12-17 23:30:30 @J I used the zipline to reach the gem, then grappled to the exit 2013-12-17 23:30:53 Espyo but 2013-12-17 23:30:56 Espyo there is no grapple on level 4 2013-12-17 23:30:57 Espyo oh 2013-12-17 23:31:00 Espyo wait, yeah there is 2013-12-17 23:31:21 Espyo well, you know on the top-right there's a crevice going down? 2013-12-17 23:31:30 Espyo that's why when you launch the zipline, you're too low to cross the exit 2013-12-17 23:31:36 Espyo you need to place a bridge for more height 2013-12-17 23:31:46 Espyo but the thing is, you place the bridge on the upper edge nearby, facing right 2013-12-17 23:31:59 Espyo that creates 3 bridges, enough to reach the wall and be high enough to get the exit 2013-12-17 23:32:07 @J wha 2013-12-17 23:32:16 @J I did exactly that, but it only reaches the island with the gem 2013-12-17 23:32:23 Espyo really? 2013-12-17 23:32:27 @J yeah 2013-12-17 23:33:44 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/Caverns_of_the_Curse_of_Greed%202013-12-17%2023-33-38-48.png you did this? 2013-12-17 23:34:07 @J so, W/, should jump 2013-12-17 23:34:13 @J yes, that 2013-12-17 23:34:23 @J also, the ladder sometimes disappears when you use it 2013-12-17 23:34:29 @J I think maybe it gets placed inside a wall 2013-12-17 23:34:43 Espyo oh, you can get on top of bridges too 2013-12-17 23:34:45 Espyo not just walk on them 2013-12-17 23:35:00 Espyo W moves up while swimming and climbing 2013-12-17 23:35:07 Espyo though nothing glitches if you jump while climbing 2013-12-17 23:35:11 Espyo so yeah, I could make it jump too 2013-12-17 23:35:15 Espyo but oh well, too late now 2013-12-17 23:35:26 Espyo yeah, I pointed it out on the submission page yesterday 2013-12-17 23:35:34 Espyo (yesterday because I updated the post to warn about it) 2013-12-17 23:35:40 Espyo on the last level, using it near the wall = poof 2013-12-17 23:37:07 @J 8 is pretty evil, if I'm doing it right 2013-12-17 23:37:16 Espyo the start is a bit evil 2013-12-17 23:37:31 @J just jump on bridges? 2013-12-17 23:37:44 Espyo uh... 2013-12-17 23:37:55 Espyo ugh, note to self 2013-12-17 23:38:06 Espyo next time: don't hesitate to add a secret level skip feature 2013-12-17 23:38:14 Espyo now I have to go all the way to level 8 to remind myself 2013-12-17 23:38:18 Espyo either that or edit the source code 2013-12-17 23:38:53 @J the water timing is tricky, the ladder glitch makes it worse, and the jump at the end doesn't really fit with the rest of the game 2013-12-17 23:39:11 @J I usually add a command-line option to choose the level 2013-12-17 23:39:14 Espyo don't get too close to the wall 2013-12-17 23:39:19 @J and leave it in the game 2013-12-17 23:39:23 @J yeah, I worked out the ladder 2013-12-17 23:39:25 Espyo when placing the ladder, I mean 2013-12-17 23:39:27 @J after a few failures 2013-12-17 23:39:38 Espyo the jump at the end? 2013-12-17 23:39:43 Espyo you mean going up to a block directly above you? 2013-12-17 23:39:47 @J yeah 2013-12-17 23:39:48 Espyo that was simple enough for me 2013-12-17 23:40:02 @J it's not very hard, but I didn't think that's what I would have to do 2013-12-17 23:40:06 @J it's just kind of weird 2013-12-17 23:40:14 Espyo heh 2013-12-17 23:40:22 Espyo that was actually an accident 2013-12-17 23:40:30 Espyo the path to get up there was meant to be normal stairs 2013-12-17 23:40:37 Espyo but for some reason, I messed up so badly it ended up like that 2013-12-17 23:40:41 @J it seems like you just kind of wanted to put _something_ there, because it was empty 2013-12-17 23:40:47 @J and had no items left to use 2013-12-17 23:41:05 Espyo just as I was about to close the game to fix it to turn it into actual stairs, I decided to try to see if you could make the jump, and you could 2013-12-17 23:41:09 Espyo and it's not super hard, so I left it in 2013-12-17 23:41:25 @J anyway, yeah, that was pretty good 2013-12-17 23:41:32 @J you should make puzzle games more often 2013-12-17 23:41:51 @J actually, I don't recall you ever mentioning playing a puzzle game 2013-12-17 23:42:02 Espyo heh, but I did 2013-12-17 23:42:05 Espyo mostly flash games 2013-12-17 23:42:08 Espyo oh, and there's Portal 1 and 2 2013-12-17 23:42:17 Espyo speaking of which, I DID have a lot of fun making two custom maps on Portal 2 2013-12-17 23:42:21 Espyo ...really a lot of fun 2013-12-17 23:42:39 Espyo and making the maps here was a bit fun too, though I had a time limit pressuring me 2013-12-17 23:42:47 @J yeah, I think making levels for puzzle games is what got me into game development 2013-12-17 23:42:53 Espyo but yeah, I'll have to try some more puzzle games, and next time, with better puzzle mechanics 2013-12-17 23:43:00 Espyo it's easy to sequence break this game 2013-12-17 23:43:19 @J yeah, I get the feeling I did that a fair amount, but it's hard to tell because of the humour 2013-12-17 23:43:20 Espyo what got me into doing something remotely "game" related was crossword puzzles 2013-12-17 23:43:35 @J I still don't get 6, the one with a load of gems above you 2013-12-17 23:43:37 Espyo I have a sketchbook over here with some crossword puzzles by 8-year-old me 2013-12-17 23:43:43 @J you just grapple up, get one, and fall back down 2013-12-17 23:43:48 Espyo ...don't tell me you hav— 2013-12-17 23:43:50 Espyo NOO! 2013-12-17 23:43:51 Espyo dammit! 2013-12-17 23:44:02 @J you put it in for testing? 2013-12-17 23:44:08 Espyo see, just before submitting, I decided to add more than one jewel to each stage 2013-12-17 23:44:14 Espyo initially, 5 of them had 1 jewel only 2013-12-17 23:44:18 Espyo I added more to fit the theme better 2013-12-17 23:44:22 Espyo but I didn't test stuff right 2013-12-17 23:44:25 Espyo so... that happened 2013-12-17 23:44:29 Espyo I think I can fix it easily, though 2013-12-17 23:44:41 @J hmm, but didn't that level already have gems up there? 2013-12-17 23:44:48 @J because the comment told you to try the cannon 2013-12-17 23:45:53 @J also, maybe I just missed it, but it should tell you about holding shift in the game 2013-12-17 23:45:58 @J I only saw it on the description page 2013-12-17 23:46:19 Espyo doesn't it say on the help screen? 2013-12-17 23:46:20 Espyo nuts... 2013-12-17 23:46:25 Espyo oh, it does say 2013-12-17 23:47:52 Espyo anyway, some metal blocks on the top should do the trick 2013-12-17 23:48:38 Espyo err... stone blocks, I mean 2013-12-17 23:48:45 Espyo they were metal until very late into the game's development 2013-12-17 23:49:27 Espyo listen, give me your code changes, please 2013-12-17 23:49:43 Espyo so I can submit this version with a fixed level 6, hidden level skip, and actual Linux workingness 2013-12-17 23:50:32 @J it was just the 'const', plus change the makefile to use 'find .' or just use 'wildcard' whatever it was from the PK Rhythm one 2013-12-17 23:51:09 @J SRCS := $(shell find . -name '*.cpp') 2013-12-17 23:51:11 @J that works 2013-12-17 23:51:15 Espyo right 2013-12-17 23:51:30 Espyo and no other kind of warnings besides that 2013-12-17 23:51:31 Espyo *? 2013-12-17 23:52:05 Espyo ugh, of course the makefile isn't meant to search on ./src 2013-12-17 23:52:42 @J also, don't use zip, because it doesn't preserve permissions 2013-12-17 23:52:49 @J ...which you won't be able to set, anyway 2013-12-17 23:52:57 @J oh, I think Git Bash magics them into working 2013-12-17 23:53:12 @J no, that's everything 2013-12-17 23:53:22 @J though images are still missing, of course 2013-12-17 23:53:32 Espyo hm, any way to do .tar.gz without compressing into .gz and then into .tar using 7-zip? 2013-12-17 23:53:39 @J but yeah, try in Git Bash: 'chmod +x theExecutableName' 2013-12-17 23:53:59 @J then 'tar czf thing.tar.gz src/' 2013-12-17 23:54:10 Espyo uh, executable name? you mean the windows executable? 2013-12-17 23:54:11 @J 7-zip isn't really built to separate archival and compression 2013-12-17 23:54:15 @J no, the 2013-12-17 23:54:17 @J ...oh 2013-12-17 23:54:33 @J never mind about any of this, then, for some reason I thought the source included a binary 2013-12-17 23:54:38 @J zip is fine 2013-12-17 23:54:56 Espyo source is source 2013-12-17 23:55:07 Espyo also why I didn't include images 2013-12-17 23:55:10 Espyo but I guess I should as well 2013-12-17 23:55:22 Espyo listen, how would I go on about a Linux version download? 2013-12-17 23:55:30 Espyo could you just shoot me your binary and that'd work? 2013-12-17 23:56:09 Espyo oh, you'd need the updated source code, though 2013-12-17 23:56:14 Espyo with the level skip and level 6 fix 2013-12-17 23:56:22 Espyo I'm sure they won't mind those changes 2013-12-17 23:56:37 Espyo one has no effect on gameplay whatsoever 2013-12-17 23:56:53 Espyo it's a post-competition bonus, made to help people communicate levels better 2013-12-17 23:57:09 Espyo "dude, you remember that part in level 7, where—" "I don't want to play again just to find out what level 7 is again" 2013-12-17 23:57:12 Espyo except now they don't have to 2013-12-17 23:58:54 @J http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-28/?action=preview&uid=16006 2013-12-17 23:58:57 @J this is great 2013-12-17 23:59:08 Espyo (updated source here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/Permanent/Caverns_of_the_Curse_of_Greed_src.7z) 2013-12-17 23:59:30 @J the binary I have is 64-bit only, and requires Allegro to be installed 2013-12-17 23:59:39 Espyo poop 2013-12-17 23:59:42 Espyo no static linking then 2013-12-17 23:59:49 Espyo can't blame you, it's hell to static link with Allegro 2013-12-17 23:59:57 @J well, it's certainly possible, but I'm not sure how 2013-12-18 00:00:11 @J I could probably stick the libraries in the package, though 2013-12-18 00:00:23 Espyo eh, I'd rather leave people with the source code, to be frank 2013-12-18 00:00:35 Espyo sucks, but it's better than making an unnecessary mess 2013-12-18 00:00:44 Espyo guess I'll try to focus on HTML5 next LD 2013-12-18 00:00:50 Espyo though HTML5 is so /sloooow/ 2013-12-18 00:00:56 Espyo also Chrome and Firefox can't get along 2013-12-18 00:01:13 Espyo var abc = {}; abc[30] = 'hello'; 2013-12-18 00:01:33 Espyo this creates an associative array with one slot, '30', with the value 'hello', in Chrome 2013-12-18 00:01:51 Espyo in Firefox, it creates an associative array with 30 indexes 2013-12-18 00:03:45 Espyo okay, that monorail game doesn't work right on my computer 2013-12-18 00:03:54 Espyo it doesn't clear the screen after every frame, so everything bleeds out 2013-12-18 00:04:07 Espyo I doubt that's intended, because it looks horrible and it makes the game impossible to see after a few seconds 2013-12-18 00:04:36 @J why do you #include allegro audio stuff if you have no sound? 2013-12-18 00:05:01 @J yeah, using sparse arrays in JS is asking for trouble 2013-12-18 00:05:11 Espyo because copy-paste 2013-12-18 00:05:34 Espyo what other way can I do stuff that requires associative arrays without associative arrays? 2013-12-18 00:05:57 @J wait, you mean if you do that, iterating over keys gives you 0..29? 2013-12-18 00:06:23 Espyo yep 2013-12-18 00:06:28 Espyo hang on, let me check for sure what I'm saing 2013-12-18 00:06:30 Espyo *saying 2013-12-18 00:07:06 @J works fine for me 2013-12-18 00:10:16 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/bad%20ff.png 2013-12-18 00:11:01 Espyo ...ok, Chrome is doing it too 2013-12-18 00:15:47 @J that's not what you said you did 2013-12-18 00:15:53 @J that's a sparse array, not an object 2013-12-18 00:16:05 @J and it's how JS is meant to work 2013-12-18 00:16:09 Espyo right, right 2013-12-18 00:16:13 Espyo I got the two mixed up 2013-12-18 00:16:19 Espyo my JS is slightly rusty now 2013-12-18 00:16:30 Espyo also what in the /world/ is up with my LD Dashboard? 2013-12-18 00:16:55 @J ? 2013-12-18 00:16:56 Espyo is the "Activity" box meant to show everything, or...? 2013-12-18 00:17:02 Espyo because I see a lot of crazy things 2013-12-18 00:17:12 Espyo From Devtactics on Livestream Your Games # This is a great idea! I'd love to hear the reactions of someone trying my entry for the first time: http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-28/?action=preview&uid=775 2013-12-18 00:17:12 @J oh, you mean how everyone shares a single set of posts 2013-12-18 00:17:19 @J yeah, it's pretty crazily wrong 2013-12-18 00:17:20 Espyo it's disorienting 2013-12-18 00:17:29 @J it's just a shared Wordpress installation 2013-12-18 00:17:48 Espyo and I have no idea how to change my avatar 2013-12-18 00:18:32 @J I think it's a Gravatar thing 2013-12-18 00:18:34 @J which is 3rd party 2013-12-18 00:18:39 @J there might be a link somewhere 2013-12-18 00:18:45 @J not like I ever bothered 2013-12-18 00:21:33 Espyo bleh 2013-12-18 00:21:35 Espyo screw it then 2013-12-18 00:21:47 Espyo though if I set it up on Gravatar, I set it up here and on GitHub... 2013-12-18 00:21:58 Espyo buh, but what's even the deal with having a site to host avatars everywhere? 2013-12-18 00:22:05 Espyo seems so silly 2013-12-18 00:22:35 @J http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/cotcog.tar.gz 2013-12-18 00:22:39 @J this probably works on 64-bit 2013-12-18 00:22:46 Espyo cotcog 2013-12-18 00:23:49 Espyo (...)\cotcog\cotcog.sh: line 5: ./cotcog: No such file or directory 2013-12-18 00:24:09 Espyo though it did write Run 'git help git' to display the help index. and the like 2013-12-18 00:24:23 Espyo ... 2013-12-18 00:24:28 Espyo this is Linux 2013-12-18 00:24:33 @J yes 2013-12-18 00:24:37 Espyo took me far too long to realize that 2013-12-18 00:24:45 @J weird it would say no such file, though 2013-12-18 00:25:04 Espyo windows is trying to run a .sh like a .bat 2013-12-18 00:27:09 Espyo ugh, permissions 2013-12-18 00:27:17 Espyo what's the command line command to decompress .tar.gz? 2013-12-18 00:27:58 @J tar xf 2013-12-18 00:28:36 @J also 'tar x < filename' - that one's a literal '<' 2013-12-18 00:31:19 @J I should really get to sleep now 2013-12-18 00:31:20 @J bye 2013-12-18 00:34:28 Espyo bye 2013-12-18 00:40:00 Espyo fine, impossible to execute binary file 2013-12-18 00:40:14 Espyo dammit, why does this type of stuff have to be so impossibly complicated? 2013-12-18 01:10:13 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@v24-293-55-829.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-18 01:10:21 <-- Testyo (Testyo@v24-293-55-829.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-18 04:06:04 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-18 04:07:48 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 09:36:08 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: g) 2013-12-18 15:40:03 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-18 15:50:58 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 17:08:33 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 18:30:06 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 18:30:06 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-18 19:42:49 @J what kind of stuff? 2013-12-18 19:43:32 Espyo context? 2013-12-18 19:44:20 @J [00:40:14] Espyo dammit, why does this type of stuff have to be so impossibly complicated? 2013-12-18 19:44:44 Espyo ports 2013-12-18 19:44:45 Espyo C++ 2013-12-18 19:44:47 Espyo linkers 2013-12-18 19:44:52 Espyo command lines 2013-12-18 19:44:54 Espyo compilers 2013-12-18 19:44:55 Espyo everything 2013-12-18 19:44:55 @J mm 2013-12-18 19:45:01 @J probably because computers are complex 2013-12-18 19:45:19 Espyo we've simplified a load of things 2013-12-18 19:45:21 @J and because of industrial competition 2013-12-18 19:45:27 Espyo by creating systems that take care of all the hard work 2013-12-18 19:45:42 Espyo but why is compiling in C++ still wizardry only fit to those worthy of knowing the secrets of the universe? 2013-12-18 19:45:54 @J because C++ isn't one of those systems 2013-12-18 19:46:00 @J it's like 40 years old 2013-12-18 19:46:17 Espyo all the more years for people to make it easier 2013-12-18 19:46:36 @J which they have done, by inventing non-C++ languages 2013-12-18 19:46:53 Espyo but non-C++ is not C++ 2013-12-18 19:47:02 @J exactly - isn't it great? 2013-12-18 19:47:10 Espyo that's where another problem lies 2013-12-18 19:47:23 Espyo for stuff that isn't complex to port and whatnot, like say, Java or HTML 2013-12-18 19:47:28 Espyo it's incredibly heavy 2013-12-18 19:47:32 Espyo there's no middle-ground 2013-12-18 19:47:44 Espyo or there is, but it belongs to one of those obscure languages that have no support 2013-12-18 19:47:57 @J what do you mean by 'heavy', here? 2013-12-18 19:48:10 Espyo HTML5 games are really slow 2013-12-18 19:48:29 Espyo and as for Java... well, if Minecraft was made in C++, it'd run twice as fast 2013-12-18 19:48:32 Espyo provided it was done well 2013-12-18 19:48:37 @J mm 2013-12-18 19:48:43 @J Java isn't very slow 2013-12-18 19:48:59 @J most of Minecraft is GPU-heavy, so it's just because of the way it does OpenGL 2013-12-18 19:49:00 Espyo not really C++-fast either 2013-12-18 19:49:06 Espyo true 2013-12-18 19:49:14 @J the GPU stuff is going to be the same in any case 2013-12-18 19:49:18 Espyo the other half is because, according to the modders, the source code is the worst thing imaginable 2013-12-18 19:49:29 @J yes, but that's not Java's fault 2013-12-18 19:49:36 Espyo still, stuff like the VM and garbage collection takes a toll on Java's performance 2013-12-18 19:49:44 Espyo could be the difference between 60FPS and 55 2013-12-18 19:49:50 Espyo 5FPS is important 2013-12-18 19:49:56 Espyo namely because it's more than 0 2013-12-18 19:50:09 Espyo (not sure if "namely" is the word to use there) 2013-12-18 19:50:17 @J except you're just making up numbers 2013-12-18 19:50:29 @J it could be the difference between 60.1 FPS and 60.0 FPS 2013-12-18 19:50:33 Espyo depends 2013-12-18 19:50:43 @J well, yeah, that's exactly my poit 2013-12-18 19:50:45 @J *point 2013-12-18 19:51:08 Espyo still, in the overall image... 2013-12-18 19:51:15 Espyo also, I don't like Java in the first place, so 2013-12-18 19:51:18 @J anyway, yeah, I'm just playing Devil's advocate because your argument is kind of terrible 2013-12-18 19:51:35 Espyo and learning a new language+framework just to make games that aren't a pain to compile... 2013-12-18 19:51:38 Espyo is even more painful 2013-12-18 19:51:51 @J hmm, really? 2013-12-18 19:52:01 @J learning a new language makes you better at every language 2013-12-18 19:52:21 @J it puts you in a position to make a better decision about what to use for each project 2013-12-18 19:52:46 Espyo in the long run 2013-12-18 19:52:49 Espyo still takes a bit to learn 2013-12-18 19:53:14 Espyo I don't quite mind, but in order to take advantage of the new language, you have to know its ins and outs 2013-12-18 19:53:19 Espyo and that takes more than just "knowing" the language 2013-12-18 19:54:55 @J anyway, as for usable, fast languages, it obviously depends on what use case you're talking about, but Rust is looking promising 2013-12-18 19:55:09 Espyo Rust? doesn't ring a bell 2013-12-18 20:00:48 @J it's a Mozilla thing 2013-12-18 20:00:54 @J C-like, but modern 2013-12-18 20:01:11 @J compiles to native code 2013-12-18 20:01:15 Espyo hmm 2013-12-18 20:01:17 Espyo sounds good 2013-12-18 20:03:54 @J you might also like D, actually 2013-12-18 20:04:00 @J which is pretty mature, more like C++ 2013-12-18 20:04:22 Espyo that one I think I heard about 2013-12-18 20:04:35 Espyo though without a game-making framework, it won't help too much... 2013-12-18 20:04:38 @J it has that whole 'let's put everything in a language so everyone likes it' mentality 2013-12-18 20:04:50 Espyo ooh 2013-12-18 20:04:52 Espyo I like that idea 2013-12-18 20:04:57 Espyo seems like it'd bloat it, though 2013-12-18 20:05:05 @J yes, like C++ 2013-12-18 20:05:22 Espyo well, more than C++ 2013-12-18 20:09:07 @J ? 2013-12-18 20:10:11 Espyo more bloated than C++ is in relation to C 2013-12-18 20:10:19 Espyo or maybe not 2013-12-18 20:10:26 Espyo I don't know enough about D to say that 2013-12-18 20:13:00 --> Prezintenden (Mibbit@54-17-762-41-yvort.superkabel.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 20:15:45 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 20:17:27 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-18 20:17:50 @J C++ is pretty bloated 2013-12-18 20:17:59 Espyo well yeah 2013-12-18 20:19:56 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 20:20:30 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 20:42:51 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-18 20:43:04 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 20:43:04 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-18 20:43:04 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-18 20:43:04 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ BetaMaster Cactmas Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles Prezintenden RingtailedFox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-18 20:43:04 -- Channel #pikipedia: 11 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 10 normals) 2013-12-18 20:43:04 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-18 20:43:04 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-18 20:43:05 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-18 20:43:05 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-18 20:52:29 Espyo heh, you could at least made the title screen a bit yellow 2013-12-18 20:52:43 Espyo but eh, not like my title screen is the most beautiful piece of art there is 2013-12-18 20:53:52 Espyo oh, it's walljumping 2013-12-18 20:56:27 Espyo the controls could be less confusing 2013-12-18 20:56:39 Espyo on one player, ctrl is to place the real mine, but on another it's detonate 2013-12-18 21:14:32 Prezintenden ohhhhh art, i am all about that stuff 2013-12-18 21:14:58 Prezintenden is this like genuine graphic-art or just code? 2013-12-18 21:16:44 Espyo J's super beautiful intro screen for his Ludum Dare game 2013-12-18 21:18:43 Prezintenden that didn't answer my question :( 2013-12-18 21:20:52 Espyo graphic-art 2013-12-18 21:21:32 Prezintenden mmm 2013-12-18 21:26:25 Espyo http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-28/?action=preview&uid=5483 2013-12-18 21:26:33 Espyo he doesn't have a screenshot of the title screen, but 2013-12-18 21:36:47 Prezintenden uh 2013-12-18 21:37:09 Prezintenden ... 2013-12-18 21:37:41 Prezintenden oh 2013-12-18 21:37:49 Prezintenden yeah 2013-12-18 21:39:44 @J well, you're not exactly meant to play both players 2013-12-18 21:40:14 @J title screen is because I ran out of time 2013-12-18 21:40:38 @J they(it depends on how many controllers are plugged in)'re just raster graphics 2013-12-18 21:40:45 @J though the background is defined in code 2013-12-18 21:41:06 @J and yeah, keyboard controls are pretty poor 2013-12-18 21:41:18 @J a better layout is appreciated, if you can think of one 2013-12-18 21:41:34 @J should be able to edit evt/* and have it update with a restart, if you feel like testing 2013-12-18 21:41:50 @J *would be appreciated, I should probably say 2013-12-18 21:43:57 @J yay kiwi 2013-12-18 22:07:13 Espyo read that as yay wiki 2013-12-18 22:07:43 Espyo a bigger layout for the arena would be enough 2013-12-18 22:07:46 Espyo not TOO big, just enough 2013-12-18 22:09:29 @J hmm, yeah 2013-12-18 22:11:35 @J yeah, I think I did originally imagine it larger, but that's just how big I happened to do the graphics, and I never thought to increase the window size 2013-12-18 22:21:11 Espyo right 2013-12-18 22:39:26 -- irc: disconnected from server 2013-12-18 22:39:38 --> J (J@o-634.cust-87447.ip.static.uno.uk.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-18 22:39:38 -- Topic for #pikipedia is "Welcome to the chatroom of the Pikipedia, pikminwiki.com, and Pikmin Fanon, pikminfanon.com" 2013-12-18 22:39:38 -- Topic set by J on Sun, 16 Oct 2011 13:57:57 2013-12-18 22:39:38 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ brBetaMaster Cactmas Espyo Gamefreak75 J Miles Prezintenden RingtailedFox Scr7 Testyo] 2013-12-18 22:39:38 -- Channel #pikipedia: 11 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 10 normals) 2013-12-18 22:39:38 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-18 22:39:38 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-18 22:39:39 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-18 22:39:39 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-18 23:00:41 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: Quit) 2013-12-18 23:02:01 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-18 23:27:42 Espyo J: you sure you don't remember way4_toy from these http://tcrf.net/File:Pikmin2CaveinfoFL4.png screenshots http://tcrf.net/File:Pikmin2Caveinfo_toyFL2.png ? 2013-12-19 00:21:58 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-19 00:22:05 <-- Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-19 01:04:43 -- brBetaMaster is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-19 01:05:08 <-- Prezintenden (Mibbit@54-17-762-41-yvort.superkabel.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-19 03:24:12 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-19 09:23:36 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas|AFK 2013-12-19 09:32:49 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-12-19 10:20:06 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 10:20:06 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-19 10:23:44 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 10:37:54 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-19 10:38:04 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 14:45:18 -- Cactmas|AFK is now known as Cactmas 2013-12-19 15:09:13 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 15:09:13 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-19 15:09:20 @PikFan . 2013-12-19 15:10:10 Espyo hey 2013-12-19 15:10:20 Espyo bad timing, I'm gonna be away for ~2 hours now 2013-12-19 15:10:29 @PikFan hm 2013-12-19 15:10:35 Espyo well, I'll go 5 minutes from now 2013-12-19 15:10:40 @PikFan ah 2013-12-19 15:10:41 Espyo anyway, seen my uploads? 2013-12-19 15:10:55 @PikFan yeah, the cave images? 2013-12-19 15:10:58 Espyo mhm 2013-12-19 15:11:10 @PikFan also, this edit made me laugh http://www.pikminfanon.com/index.php?title=Topic:Pikmin_Engine_by_Espyo&diff=prev&oldid=41454 2013-12-19 15:11:11 Espyo the spammer we had before took the massive upload opportunity to hide some vandalism 2013-12-19 15:11:16 Espyo oh the fool, he thought I wouldn't notice it 2013-12-19 15:11:19 @PikFan I saw that 2013-12-19 15:11:31 @PikFan good riddance, spammer 2013-12-19 15:11:34 Espyo yeah, I really did think c was an interwiki link 2013-12-19 15:11:47 @PikFan well, you have to use it as a template 2013-12-19 15:11:49 Espyo BUT later I realized I was on the right track... 2013-12-19 15:11:52 Espyo yeah, c as a template 2013-12-19 15:11:57 Espyo oh well *shrug* 2013-12-19 15:12:10 @PikFan {{c|page}} 2013-12-19 15:12:14 Espyo mhm 2013-12-19 15:12:22 Espyo you did it on the very first line of the article 2013-12-19 15:12:27 Espyo and I still missed it 2013-12-19 15:12:34 @PikFan hehe 2013-12-19 15:12:45 Espyo I even tried searching around the wiki for an example of the c interwiki link thing in action 2013-12-19 15:12:57 Espyo ...in retrospect, I forgot about [[Red Bulborb]] 2013-12-19 15:13:03 Espyo but anyway, [[pikipedia:]] works 2013-12-19 15:13:12 @PikFan yeah 2013-12-19 15:14:27 Espyo going now 2013-12-19 15:14:31 Espyo maybe I'll be back sooner than 2 hours 2013-12-19 15:15:11 @PikFan yeah, going to have to leave soon also 2013-12-19 15:15:15 @PikFan (school) 2013-12-19 15:15:24 Espyo right 2013-12-19 15:20:07 <-- Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-19 15:20:27 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-19 15:48:24 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: bye) 2013-12-19 15:50:36 --> Prez (Mibbit@85-55-450-30-dfnuz.superkabel.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 15:51:47 Prez holy nuts that upload log 2013-12-19 16:01:01 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 16:07:29 --> Scr7_ (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 16:08:26 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-12-19 16:08:26 -- Scr7_ is now known as Scr7 2013-12-19 16:14:55 Prez uhhhh make a page for crystal nodules? they're named in the game and don't really form a hazard so... 2013-12-19 18:42:39 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-19 18:56:32 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-19 19:34:42 --> Hipe (Mibbit@lou761-03-44-82.lns89.syd1.internode.on.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 19:35:18 <-- Hipe (Mibbit@lou761-03-44-82.lns89.syd1.internode.on.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-19 19:48:21 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 19:48:21 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-19 19:48:33 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 19:52:10 <-- Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-19 19:52:14 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 19:52:14 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-19 19:56:26 @J [23:27:42] Espyo J: you sure you don't remember way4_toy from these 2013-12-19 19:56:26 @J http://tcrf.net/File:Pikmin2CaveinfoFL4.png screenshots 2013-12-19 19:56:26 @J http://tcrf.net/File:Pikmin2Caveinfo_toyFL2.png ? 2013-12-19 19:56:33 @J I thought I said I did, last you asked? 2013-12-19 19:57:00 Espyo IIRC, you said you remembered seeing way4_toy somewhere in the past 2013-12-19 19:57:20 Espyo if you remember it from those screenshots, then it's one thing, but if you remember them from in-game, that's another 2013-12-19 19:57:35 @J wait, what are those screenshots, then? 2013-12-19 19:57:42 @J are they beta or something? 2013-12-19 19:58:04 @J I want to say in-game, but I still don't know where 2013-12-19 19:58:13 @J not sure I've seen those screenshots before 2013-12-19 19:58:53 @J did you upload all those manually? 2013-12-19 19:59:42 Espyo those screenshots are from unused cave setups, on TCRF 2013-12-19 19:59:58 Espyo they are in-game, they replaced existing cave layouts with some unused ones that happen to contain way4_toy 2013-12-19 20:00:09 Espyo I had nothing to do with those TCRF shots though 2013-12-19 20:00:28 @J so did any used files reference way4_toy? 2013-12-19 20:00:40 @J if not, I guess that's your answer and I'm just making things up (as usual) 2013-12-19 20:00:49 @J [16:14:55] Prez uhhhh make a page for crystal nodules? they're named in the game and don't really 2013-12-19 20:00:49 @J form a hazard so... 2013-12-19 20:00:54 @J yeah, I don't see why not 2013-12-19 20:01:34 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/Category:Obstacles 2013-12-19 20:01:40 @J most other obstacles have their own page 2013-12-19 20:01:40 Espyo some used ones DO reference it, but 2013-12-19 20:01:49 Espyo I don't think the units the game is given ever allow for them to be placed 2013-12-19 20:02:02 Espyo although PikFan says he spotted way4_toy on a 2P level 2013-12-19 20:02:07 Espyo or thinks he did 2013-12-19 20:02:32 Espyo so... what's a crystal nodule? 2013-12-19 20:02:37 @J I was thinking one of those ones with paths around the edges, like the Gatling Groink on the bucket (Challenge Mode?) 2013-12-19 20:02:51 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-19 20:02:57 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 20:03:04 @J though if you have a list of caves that reference them, might be useful to see it 2013-12-19 20:03:08 @J [20:02:37] @J I was thinking one of those ones with paths around the edges, like the Gatling Groink 2013-12-19 20:03:08 @J on the bucket (Challenge Mode?) 2013-12-19 20:03:08 Espyo note to self: Fn + F4 is NOT unmute 2013-12-19 20:03:12 @J heh 2013-12-19 20:03:24 Espyo it's just the toy 2P area and... one of the main game caves, I forgot which 2013-12-19 20:04:15 Espyo wait, what is that a reply to? 2013-12-19 20:05:57 <-- Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-19 20:05:58 @J I was just copy/pasting what I said in case you missed it 2013-12-19 20:06:03 @J bye Testyo 2013-12-19 20:07:13 Espyo finally, Testyo 2013-12-19 20:07:22 Espyo yeah, but what was that a reply of? 2013-12-19 20:09:07 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 20:09:07 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-19 20:18:15 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 20:28:49 @J to the question of where I thought I saw way4_toy 2013-12-19 20:34:51 Espyo ah 2013-12-19 20:34:57 Espyo hmm 2013-12-19 20:35:07 Espyo really don't remember any in that kind of environment 2013-12-19 20:42:50 @J back in half an hour or so 2013-12-19 20:44:44 Espyo wait 2013-12-19 20:44:45 Espyo before you go 2013-12-19 20:45:02 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/File:P2CU_room_hebi12x12_1_tsuchi.jpg where in the world is this used? 2013-12-19 20:45:13 Espyo according to the files, sublevel 5 of forest_2.txt 2013-12-19 20:45:16 Espyo which is some AW cave 2013-12-19 20:45:22 Espyo but no sublevel 5 matches 2013-12-19 20:45:33 Espyo the Snagret Hole's sublevel 5 is metallic, according to the wiki 2013-12-19 20:49:14 Espyo oh, sublevel 5 of the White Flower Garden 2013-12-19 21:04:31 Prez crystal nodules are just rocks that rock pikmin can destroy. think interactable cannon beetle rocks 2013-12-19 21:04:40 Prez in case the question was still relevant 2013-12-19 21:06:02 Espyo ah 2013-12-19 21:06:04 Espyo hmm 2013-12-19 21:06:08 Espyo I guess they should be obstacles 2013-12-19 21:06:12 Espyo depends if they get in the way or not 2013-12-19 21:07:24 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/Cave_units done 2013-12-19 21:08:04 Prez mmmmmmmmmmmm... there are "crystal" walls. look like glass, not sure what the game calls them at the moment. many enemies have crystal armor... and the nodules, they lie around, but they don't block anything i think. hmmmm 2013-12-19 21:08:37 Espyo not really sure they're obstacles then 2013-12-19 21:08:40 Espyo what are they for, then? 2013-12-19 21:08:43 Espyo do they contain stuff inside? 2013-12-19 21:09:19 Prez maybe it would either be better to have a page for all things crystal (sounds dumb, probably bad idea) or just add it to other articles and the rock pikmin page. pretty sure skutterchucks are the only enemies that interact with the nodules, but i might have forgotten something 2013-12-19 21:09:40 Espyo hmm 2013-12-19 21:09:48 Espyo well, I don't know enough about them to vote on the matter 2013-12-19 21:10:40 Prez there are crystals that block the path or contain stuff that aren't crystal walls in the sense dirt/bramble gates are. but they aren't called nodules, just crystals or something. hmm maybe a crystal article makes sense after all, considering the big chucks of crystals. wait do they block paths actually? i don't think so. but they do contain stuff often 2013-12-19 21:11:02 Prez yeah, i need to check again, i didn't pay much attention to them until just now 2013-12-19 21:11:51 Prez pfff scales are obstacles? hah 2013-12-19 21:12:38 Prez man espyo that article is amazing 2013-12-19 21:13:15 Espyo thanks 2013-12-19 21:13:36 Espyo I plan on changing all cave + challenge + 2P articles to include a list of all possible units for each sublevel 2013-12-19 21:13:39 Prez these are exactly the textures used in the game, just stretched right? 2013-12-19 21:13:49 Espyo hopefully with galleries that aren't that huge 2013-12-19 21:13:51 Espyo textures? 2013-12-19 21:14:03 Espyo those are screenshots I took from the units themselves, using a model viewer 2013-12-19 21:14:08 Espyo but the units do come from the game directly 2013-12-19 21:14:23 Prez OH 2013-12-19 21:14:45 Prez okay. i was thinking 2013-12-19 21:14:53 Prez well i'm not really sure. but i get it now 2013-12-19 21:15:28 Prez basically i thought this was max resolution 2013-12-19 21:15:52 Espyo heh nope 2013-12-19 21:15:53 Prez but yeah looking at it again that would be way too pixelated 2013-12-19 21:16:00 Espyo only as big as I could take screenshots of 2013-12-19 21:16:10 Espyo though I did shrink most of them 2013-12-19 21:16:18 Espyo because c'mon, there's 216 of them (dupes included) 2013-12-19 21:17:46 @J back 2013-12-19 21:18:17 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-19 21:19:13 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 21:19:14 @J [21:10:40] Prez there are crystals that block the path or contain stuff that aren't crystal walls inthe sense dirt/bramble gates are. but they aren't called nodules, just crystals or something 2013-12-19 21:19:19 @J oh, I was thinking of those 2013-12-19 21:19:36 @J like the mushrooms? 2013-12-19 21:19:51 @J yeah, scales are things you need to overcome to get somewhere 2013-12-19 21:19:56 Prez yeah i didn't even think of those when i made the nodules link. will need to look at it more closely 2013-12-19 21:19:59 @J that's pretty much the definition of an obstacle 2013-12-19 21:20:00 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-19 21:20:21 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 21:20:29 Espyo good job, mibbit 2013-12-19 21:21:39 Prez my thought process was more like scales allow you to overcome the real obstacle, walls, so it would be more of a help 2013-12-19 21:21:50 Prez but in the videogame sense, yeah, they're obstacles 2013-12-19 21:23:20 @J hmm, I thought it would be more, but that page is only 878KiB total 2013-12-19 21:23:48 @J ah, you didn't scale them down as much as you originally intended 2013-12-19 21:23:50 @J that's good 2013-12-19 21:24:09 @J I like how the abyss is an actual part of some models 2013-12-19 21:27:21 Espyo yeah 2013-12-19 21:27:27 Espyo it's actually wall, not abyss 2013-12-19 21:32:10 @J so my home insurance doesn't cover: 'Loss or damage by pressure waves caused by aircraft or other aerial devices travelling at sonic or 2013-12-19 21:32:11 @J supersonic speeds.' 2013-12-19 21:32:14 @J sad indeed 2013-12-19 21:34:51 Espyo dammit 2013-12-19 21:35:19 Espyo thanks for suggesting my own game as a game to play, ludumdare.com 2013-12-19 21:36:18 @J it does cover collisions involving aircraft, though 2013-12-19 21:36:36 @J yeah, I got that too 2013-12-19 21:39:05 Espyo yay, someone praised my character's animations 2013-12-19 21:39:25 Espyo "although the character does move well" 2013-12-19 21:39:28 Espyo not necessarily the animations, but 2013-12-19 21:39:54 Espyo it's really stressing when people don't seem to catch on about stuff that's obvious to you 2013-12-19 21:40:24 @J like what? 2013-12-19 21:40:36 @J I thought the animations were nice too 2013-12-19 21:40:56 @J or, I should say, it was pleasing that there _were_ animations for a variety of actions 2013-12-19 21:42:04 Espyo right 2013-12-19 21:42:19 Espyo I wouldn't call them nice, but I'm glad I gave them as much detail as I did 2013-12-19 21:42:27 Espyo would've made some more, like... NOT 4 frames for running 2013-12-19 21:42:29 Espyo but time... 2013-12-19 21:42:36 Espyo also I mean the fact that shift shows help about the items 2013-12-19 21:42:42 Espyo and that 2 jewels = death 2013-12-19 21:42:50 Espyo at least 2 people've complained about those problems 2013-12-19 21:48:25 @J 4 frames is always enough 2013-12-19 21:48:27 Espyo so what's up with the previously rated entries having the columns duplicated? 2013-12-19 21:48:49 Espyo and the final game I reviewed having the ratings on the 2nd set of attributes? 2013-12-19 21:48:53 @J yeah, the 2 gems thing is like the whole point of the game 2013-12-19 21:49:08 @J one is probably compo, one jam 2013-12-19 21:49:12 Espyo or part of it, but it sure is pointed in the title 2013-12-19 21:49:13 Espyo ah, makes sense 2013-12-19 21:49:34 @J I had that sort of stuff a lot with Wearhouse 2013-12-19 21:49:38 Espyo what's the txt column? there's only one, and x on all of them 2013-12-19 21:49:41 @J people just weren't getting the mechanics 2013-12-19 21:49:44 Espyo right 2013-12-19 21:49:53 Espyo it's really nerve-wrecking 2013-12-19 21:49:53 @J I think I've fixed most of those problems now 2013-12-19 21:49:56 Espyo dinner 2013-12-19 21:49:57 @J but I couldn't understand it 2013-12-19 21:50:10 @J it's also stressful not to get dinner 2013-12-19 21:50:35 @J no idea what txt is 2013-12-19 22:00:28 -- Cactmas is now known as CactmaSleep 2013-12-19 22:10:00 Prez man i just spent half an hour trying to cut tendons off the meat 2013-12-19 22:10:11 Prez hard earned dinner 2013-12-19 22:14:26 Espyo makes the dinner all the more juicy 2013-12-19 22:14:32 Espyo at least that's what it feels like 2013-12-19 22:14:41 Espyo also, I'd rather not update my game with those things and others 2013-12-19 22:14:44 Espyo it's done, it's done 2013-12-19 22:15:04 Espyo I'll have to live with knowing that the items aren't as easy to understand as I'd hope 2013-12-19 22:15:13 Espyo I won't make the same mistake next LD, though, I hope 2013-12-19 22:16:53 @J you mean for LD, or you don't plan to continue this game at all? 2013-12-19 22:17:42 @J because I'd say it's good enough that it's worth fixing all the little bugs/usability issues, adding some sound, maybe some more levels 2013-12-19 22:18:46 Espyo hmm 2013-12-19 22:18:54 Espyo well, I suppose I should work on an updated version at one point 2013-12-19 22:18:58 Espyo but certainly not for LD 2013-12-19 22:20:16 @J http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/fileshare/cotcog.tar.gz 2013-12-19 22:20:26 @J this should support 32-bit and 64-bit Linux 2013-12-19 22:22:02 @J I noticed some guy on Pikmin Fanon asked for a Linux version of the engine - I can do builds for that whenever you want, too 2013-12-19 22:28:10 Espyo yeah, but didn't we have a load of trouble before? 2013-12-19 22:29:40 Espyo looks like your site is down 2013-12-19 22:29:52 Espyo also, I'd like a Linux version when I do the next demo 2013-12-19 22:30:05 Espyo which should include leaf/bud/flower speed modifiers and... something else I forgot 2013-12-19 22:32:51 Espyo ok, it actually downloaded, but it gets stuck trying to untar it 2013-12-19 22:32:59 Espyo either that or it's super slow 2013-12-19 22:41:06 Espyo yep, stuck 2013-12-19 22:41:09 Espyo tar x, right? 2013-12-19 22:41:13 Espyo rather, 2013-12-19 22:41:14 Espyo tar -x 2013-12-19 23:06:12 <-- Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-19 23:10:03 @J [22:29:40] Espyo looks like your site is down 2013-12-19 23:10:11 @J not sure about then, but it works for me now 2013-12-19 23:10:32 @J oh, never mind 2013-12-19 23:10:37 @J yeah, tar x 2013-12-19 23:10:46 @J but you need f too if you're specifying the filename 2013-12-19 23:10:57 @J otherwise it will read from stdin, which is probably what you mean by 'stuck' 2013-12-19 23:11:18 @J it's 'tar -xf ', or 'tar -x < file', or 'cat file | tar -x' 2013-12-19 23:11:26 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-19 23:11:32 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 23:11:46 Espyo shouldn't the default be a filename and not stdin? eesh 2013-12-19 23:11:55 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 23:11:55 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-19 23:13:25 @J stdin default is pretty common 2013-12-19 23:13:59 @J -f defines the archive, whether you're reading into one or out of one 2013-12-19 23:14:11 @J other files specified are read into the archive, if you're creating 2013-12-19 23:14:43 @J not sure why I went into 'hey look here's some information' mode there 2013-12-19 23:15:09 Espyo because it's appreciated 2013-12-19 23:15:29 Espyo anyway, cotcog-i686: error while loading shared libraries: libpng16.so.16: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 2013-12-19 23:15:48 Espyo this happened after running cotcog.sh 2013-12-19 23:15:54 @J on what, a 32-bit VM? 2013-12-19 23:16:05 @J yes, I suppose you need libpng 2013-12-19 23:16:15 @J hmm, Ubuntu? 2013-12-19 23:18:12 Espyo Lubuntu 2013-12-19 23:18:18 Espyo 32-bit VM 2013-12-19 23:19:21 @J so, the allegro build is linked against libpng16, but Ubuntu ships with 12 2013-12-19 23:19:32 @J however, that means allegro5 must support libpng12 2013-12-19 23:23:10 Espyo so, in conclusion... 2013-12-19 23:23:11 Espyo ...? 2013-12-19 23:24:38 @J maybe I could make it point to libpng 2013-12-19 23:25:40 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: Quit) 2013-12-19 23:28:26 @J can't do it right now 2013-12-19 23:28:31 @J but it's a thing to look at 2013-12-19 23:28:59 Espyo mhm 2013-12-19 23:29:03 Espyo maybe for the pfe as well 2013-12-19 23:29:40 @J seems like a pain, though 2013-12-19 23:30:06 @J it's because I only bundled allegro - I suppose other deps could be bundled too 2013-12-19 23:31:03 Espyo right 2013-12-19 23:38:20 Espyo going to bed 2013-12-19 23:38:24 Espyo firefox is dying on me, and I'm kinda sleepy 2013-12-19 23:38:50 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-19 23:39:02 <-- Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-19 23:42:32 <-- ChanServ (chanserv@services.darkmyst.org) has quit (shutting down) 2013-12-19 23:42:36 --> ChanServ (chanserv@services.darkmyst.org) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 23:42:37 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o ChanServ] by atlanta.ga.us.darkmyst.org 2013-12-19 23:48:21 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-19 23:48:21 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-20 00:10:36 --> Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 00:31:25 --> UltraMario (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 01:54:28 <-- Prez (Mibbit@85-55-450-30-dfnuz.superkabel.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-20 02:10:23 -- UltraMario is now known as Rosy_the_Rascal 2013-12-20 02:16:28 <-- Rosy_the_Rascal (Mibbit@q-04-054-524-534.hsd4.pa.comcast.net) has left #pikipedia 2013-12-20 03:32:00 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: night) 2013-12-20 03:39:52 --> Hipe (Mibbit@lou761-03-44-82.lns89.syd1.internode.on.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 03:40:12 Hipe Hello! 2013-12-20 03:41:40 <-- Hipe (Mibbit@lou761-03-44-82.lns89.syd1.internode.on.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-20 03:42:28 --> Hipe (Mibbit@lou761-03-44-82.lns89.syd1.internode.on.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 03:42:43 Hipe Hi! 2013-12-20 03:43:38 Hipe :) 2013-12-20 03:43:47 Hipe ;) 2013-12-20 03:43:58 <-- Hipe (Mibbit@lou761-03-44-82.lns89.syd1.internode.on.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-20 04:04:02 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by BetaMaster64!Mibbit@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net))) 2013-12-20 06:22:21 -- CactmaSleep is now known as Cactmas|AFK 2013-12-20 09:19:43 <-- Gamefreak75 (Fassad@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: Nwehehehehehehehehe! That's one nwe and eight hes.) 2013-12-20 11:23:01 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 11:23:01 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-20 11:25:40 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 12:36:54 --> eoron3 (Mibbit@lzlrc-pxv-57lf8m-526.dhcp.inet.fi) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 12:37:07 eoron3 terve vaan 2013-12-20 12:37:52 eoron3 where iget find pikmin 2 for wii u ? 2013-12-20 12:39:06 <-- eoron3 (Mibbit@lzlrc-pxv-57lf8m-526.dhcp.inet.fi) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-20 12:46:14 <-- Cactmas|AFK (Fazer@w11-533-471-599.bredband.comhem.se) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-12-20 13:30:42 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 13:48:44 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-20 13:49:19 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-20 13:49:22 <-- Testyo 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13:57:57 2013-12-21 07:17:53 -- Nicks #pikipedia: [@ChanServ Gamefreak75 J Miles RingtailedFox] 2013-12-21 07:17:53 -- Channel #pikipedia: 5 nicks (1 op, 0 voices, 4 normals) 2013-12-21 07:17:53 -- URL for #pikipedia: http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-21 07:17:53 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o J] by ChanServ 2013-12-21 07:17:55 -- Mode #pikipedia [+nt] 2013-12-21 07:17:55 -- Channel created on Sat, 27 Jul 2013 18:55:16 2013-12-21 07:38:14 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 09:04:37 @J well, I wasn't here yesterday 2013-12-21 09:04:40 @J looks like you had fun 2013-12-21 09:04:56 @J [21:57:02] TVTrash Oh 2013-12-21 09:04:56 @J [21:57:04] TVTrash my 2013-12-21 09:04:56 @J [21:57:07] TVTrash pork! 2013-12-21 09:05:02 @J that is I don't even know 2013-12-21 09:05:06 @J but I think I like it 2013-12-21 09:05:11 @J [22:00:14] Testyo TVTrash is flooding! 2013-12-21 09:05:23 @J also, Testyo is getting crazily intelligent 2013-12-21 09:05:46 @J though I like how his only course of action is to tell us the obvious 2013-12-21 09:06:07 Scr7 didn't tvtrash excess flood like four times 2013-12-21 11:23:47 <-- Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-21 12:05:43 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 12:05:44 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-21 12:16:43 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 12:16:43 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-21 12:20:23 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 12:49:33 @PikFan `akick list 2013-12-21 12:49:49 Scr7 `akick list 2013-12-21 12:59:06 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-21 15:53:40 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 19:11:52 --> User_01 (User_01@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 19:12:22 User_01 Hello 2013-12-21 19:13:28 <-- User_01 (User_01@e.clients.kiwiirc.com) has left #pikipedia 2013-12-21 20:45:53 @J [09:05:11] @J [22:00:14] Testyo TVTrash is flooding! 2013-12-21 20:45:53 @J [09:05:23] @J also, Testyo is getting crazily intelligent 2013-12-21 20:45:53 @J [09:05:46] @J though I like how his only course of action is to tell us the obvious 2013-12-21 20:47:45 Espyo he's meant to kick people 2013-12-21 20:47:51 Espyo but obviously he has no power here 2013-12-21 20:48:10 Espyo that, and the fact that he kicks on the wrong channel sometimes 2013-12-21 20:53:53 --> Gamefreak75 (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 21:18:02 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-21 21:33:52 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 22:37:37 Espyo any way to be notified by e-mail when someone comments on my LD game? 2013-12-21 22:56:52 @J heh... 2013-12-21 22:56:57 @J not that I've discovered, no 2013-12-21 22:57:03 @J it's a fairly horrible system 2013-12-21 22:57:11 Espyo yeah, so I learned... 2013-12-21 22:57:14 @J you can subscribe to every comment on every post ever 2013-12-21 22:57:28 Espyo subscribe to what, changes? 2013-12-21 22:57:33 Espyo edits, I mean 2013-12-21 22:57:38 Espyo because you certainly can't reply to a comment 2013-12-21 22:57:40 Espyo not as far as I know 2013-12-21 22:57:48 Espyo oh, maybe blog post comments 2013-12-21 22:59:53 @J I don't even know 2013-12-21 23:00:15 @J https://www.changedetection.com/ 2013-12-21 23:00:19 @J you can always try that 2013-12-21 23:00:34 @J and hope it doesn't constantly pick up sidebar changes, etc. 2013-12-21 23:02:00 Espyo oh, neat 2013-12-21 23:02:12 Espyo it should be fairly simple to limit it to a certain HTML element... 2013-12-21 23:03:08 Espyo https://www.changedetection.com/faq.html 2013-12-21 23:03:14 Espyo apparently it kinda is 2013-12-21 23:04:00 @J not very useful, though 2013-12-21 23:04:03 Espyo >Typically pages are checked once per day for changes. 2013-12-21 23:04:07 Espyo doesn't help me then 2013-12-21 23:04:13 @J ? 2013-12-21 23:04:14 Espyo I already manually check once a day 2013-12-21 23:04:50 Espyo off-topic, is the wiki down? http://www.pikminwiki.com 2013-12-21 23:05:30 @J I suppose a site like that which allows you to specify what to look at, how often to check, etc., would be useful 2013-12-21 23:05:45 Gamefreak75 all the wikis that belong to porplemontage are down 2013-12-21 23:05:47 @J I find I need to do that fairly often, so I might consider doing it 2013-12-21 23:05:57 @J Gamefreak75: do we know why? 2013-12-21 23:06:12 Gamefreak75 no idea, it's been down for about 3 hours 2013-12-21 23:06:19 Espyo hmm 2013-12-21 23:06:22 Espyo should be temporary 2013-12-21 23:06:22 @J actually, doing it as an RSS feed fixes the frequency thing quite nicely 2013-12-21 23:06:29 Espyo yeah, it does 2013-12-21 23:07:06 @J though I suppose it means you should be keeping a backlog of previous changes at times of request 2013-12-21 23:07:08 @J hmm 2013-12-21 23:07:31 @J anyway, I already have an HTML parsing library I wrote forever ago, with CSS-style selections 2013-12-21 23:07:43 Espyo right 2013-12-21 23:07:53 @J not that it's well-written, but it seems to work 2013-12-21 23:08:03 Espyo still sounds like it would have hundreds of problems 2013-12-21 23:08:24 @J which part? 2013-12-21 23:08:41 Espyo the page updater idea as a whole 2013-12-21 23:08:43 Espyo not your library 2013-12-21 23:09:16 @J you have any particular worries, or just vague suspicion? 2013-12-21 23:10:20 Espyo suspicion, but I guess that I'm worried that the servers you're meant to check might not like the idea? 2013-12-21 23:10:29 @J hmm 2013-12-21 23:10:37 Espyo having a request from the same IP every time, every X hours 2013-12-21 23:10:42 Espyo suspicious behaviour 2013-12-21 23:10:45 @J depends how often it gets used, really 2013-12-21 23:10:46 Espyo you'd have to ask permissions 2013-12-21 23:11:02 @J but there are already lots of things that do that kind of thing 2013-12-21 23:11:34 @J it's no different from checking manually, just more predictable 2013-12-21 23:11:53 @J and hey, if that site doesn't have a problem with it... 2013-12-21 23:13:03 Espyo I suppose 2013-12-21 23:14:42 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: u) 2013-12-21 23:16:08 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-21 23:16:08 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-21 23:16:21 @PikFan . 2013-12-21 23:17:44 @J hey 2013-12-21 23:18:03 @PikFan hi Espy—er, J 2013-12-21 23:18:29 Espyo hi 2013-12-21 23:18:45 Espyo oh, right 2013-12-21 23:18:53 Espyo PikFan: please check NTSC GC Pikmin 2 2013-12-21 23:19:02 Espyo check the mail, and tell me if the spam mails link to... 2013-12-21 23:19:07 Espyo uh, hang on 2013-12-21 23:19:19 Espyo http://pikmin2.nintendo.co.uk 2013-12-21 23:19:25 Espyo tell me if they link there ^ 2013-12-21 23:19:30 @PikFan *shrug* 2013-12-21 23:19:38 @PikFan I've played too far into the game 2013-12-21 23:19:43 Espyo because on the wiki (currently offline), it says it links to just nintendo.com, I think 2013-12-21 23:19:55 Espyo oh, right, you'd have to press L hundreds of times to see the spam mails 2013-12-21 23:20:05 Espyo don't you have a save file with less days? 2013-12-21 23:20:32 @PikFan uh... no 2013-12-21 23:20:46 @PikFan there's one and I'm on day 9 2013-12-21 23:20:56 @PikFan well, let me reword 2013-12-21 23:21:06 @PikFan I'm on day 9 in one of the files 2013-12-21 23:21:22 @PikFan but I don't think I've gotten that far 2013-12-21 23:22:06 @PikFan (also you can check previous mail up to 20 days before) 2013-12-21 23:22:20 Espyo right 2013-12-21 23:22:21 Espyo oh... 2013-12-21 23:22:29 Espyo well, what about NPC!? 2013-12-21 23:22:42 @PikFan hmm, yeah, I could check 2013-12-21 23:22:50 @PikFan gotten to day 31 2013-12-21 23:23:37 Espyo if there's spam there, please check the url 2013-12-21 23:23:41 Espyo it MIGHT be http://pikmin2.nintendo.co.uk 2013-12-21 23:23:50 Espyo I think only the NTSC GC version links to something different 2013-12-21 23:25:55 @PikFan hmm 2013-12-21 23:27:19 @PikFan "***SPAM?*** Hocotate E-Mag #255. Not just songs; songs of love! Rock out to Pikpik's greatest hits and get sappy! http://www.nintendo.com." 2013-12-21 23:28:45 Espyo hmmmmmmm 2013-12-21 23:28:50 Espyo I'll point this out 2013-12-21 23:29:06 Espyo that message is from NPC!, right? 2013-12-21 23:29:21 @PikFan yes 2013-12-21 23:30:04 Espyo with the http:// and www., confirm? 2013-12-21 23:35:38 @PikFan yep 2013-12-21 23:35:42 @PikFan copied exactly 2013-12-21 23:35:52 @PikFan sorry, was distracted 2013-12-21 23:36:03 Espyo ok, great 2013-12-21 23:36:14 Espyo now we need GC NTSC and NPC! PAL 2013-12-21 23:42:23 @PikFan 15:19 Espyo because on the wiki (currently offline), it says it links to just nintendo.com, I think 2013-12-21 23:42:36 @PikFan MarioWiki's down, too 2013-12-21 23:42:50 Espyo mhm 2013-12-21 23:42:57 Espyo 23:06 Gamefreak75 all the wikis that belong to porplemontage are down 2013-12-21 23:43:09 @PikFan huh 2013-12-21 23:43:19 @PikFan doesn't Pikmin Fanon belong to Porple 2013-12-21 23:43:48 @PikFan because Pikmin Fanon is up and running 2013-12-21 23:44:16 Espyo dunno 2013-12-21 23:46:12 @PikFan wait a minute 2013-12-21 23:46:16 @PikFan they're back online 2013-12-21 23:46:55 Espyo ah 2013-12-21 23:47:38 @PikFan http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Mail&curid=4265&diff=77515&oldid=40846 2013-12-21 23:48:35 Espyo what the... 2013-12-21 23:48:38 Espyo is he reading my mind? 2013-12-21 23:48:57 @PikFan hmm? 2013-12-21 23:49:03 Espyo I only realized the links might be different yesterday because, by chance, I happened to read the game's script and notice the links 2013-12-21 23:49:13 Espyo then I remembered that last time I checked, the links didn't work 2013-12-21 23:49:17 Espyo then I remembered to go to the wiki 2013-12-21 23:49:21 Espyo then I realized the links were different 2013-12-21 23:49:32 Espyo and after those events, that lead to me asking you 2013-12-21 23:49:32 @PikFan then I... 2013-12-21 23:49:40 Espyo Los Plagas finds out about the different links at the same time? 2013-12-21 23:49:42 Espyo that's insane! 2013-12-21 23:49:50 Espyo well, I did realize the links could've been different /yesterday/ 2013-12-21 23:49:51 Espyo but sitll 2013-12-21 23:49:52 Espyo *still 2013-12-21 23:49:58 @PikFan coincidences are weird, aren't they 2013-12-21 23:50:10 Espyo unless I edited the Mail article, which brought attention to Los Plagas 2013-12-21 23:50:16 Espyo I think I might've edited the article with something, yesterday 2013-12-21 23:50:28 @PikFan yeah, you added a ToDo 2013-12-21 23:50:30 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Mail&diff=77512&oldid=72728 2013-12-21 23:50:32 Espyo ...oh 2013-12-21 23:50:40 Espyo well, that explains why Los Plagas is talking about it, doesn't it 2013-12-21 23:50:51 @PikFan :P 2013-12-21 23:51:03 @PikFan silly Espyo is silly 2013-12-21 23:51:10 Espyo :( 2013-12-21 23:51:15 Espyo I'm not following what he wrote though 2013-12-22 01:01:19 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-22 01:01:40 <-- Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-22 02:47:03 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: night) 2013-12-22 04:09:12 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-12-22 07:04:31 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2013-12-22 08:19:50 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-22 09:45:31 <-- 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half an hour ago 2013-12-22 22:00:19 Scr7 didn't stay for long though 2013-12-22 22:00:30 @PikFan mm 2013-12-22 22:00:31 @PikFan why 2013-12-22 22:00:33 @PikFan GAH 2013-12-22 22:00:38 @PikFan why'd he leave? 2013-12-22 22:00:51 Scr7 dunno 2013-12-22 22:00:54 Scr7 he never said anything either 2013-12-22 22:10:39 --> Espyo (Mibbit@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-22 22:11:32 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-22 22:16:19 --> Testyo (Testyo@o74-749-80-851.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-22 22:16:19 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-22 22:18:23 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-22 22:34:05 --> ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@ihhe-12-776-215-118.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-22 22:36:35 <-- ThePikminMeister (Mibbit@ihhe-12-776-215-118.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-22 23:08:31 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: 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joined #pikipedia 2013-12-24 19:00:08 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-24 19:06:08 @PikFan . 2013-12-24 19:07:06 Espyo ey 2013-12-24 19:07:08 Espyo *h 2013-12-24 20:00:07 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Onion&curid=1377&diff=77516&oldid=74112&rcid=31062 2013-12-24 20:00:16 Espyo I thought Winged and Rocks didn't have onions 2013-12-24 20:06:02 @PikFan they do 2013-12-24 20:06:12 Espyo oh 2013-12-24 20:06:15 Espyo is the Rocks' black? 2013-12-24 20:06:21 @PikFan it's grey 2013-12-24 20:06:32 @PikFan found in the Garden of Hope 2013-12-24 20:06:45 @PikFan it's in a Crystal Nodule 2013-12-24 20:08:02 Espyo ah 2013-12-24 20:08:45 Espyo meh, whatever, that whole article'll be fixed when Pikmin 3 info comes rolling around 2013-12-24 20:08:54 Espyo my dad hinted that I'm getting something I've been asking for a while 2013-12-24 20:09:03 Espyo but I honestly doubt it's a Wii U, for a lot of reasons 2013-12-24 20:09:31 @PikFan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwUnARR4Qmw 2013-12-24 20:09:35 @PikFan at 8:07 2013-12-24 20:15:15 Espyo right 2013-12-24 20:17:41 @PikFan http://www.pikminwiki.com/images/5/57/Arachnode.png 2013-12-24 20:17:48 @PikFan are those Shoots? 2013-12-24 20:18:05 Espyo yes, I think so 2013-12-24 21:02:40 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-12-24 21:29:12 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-24 21:32:54 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7|afk 2013-12-24 21:44:55 -- Scr7|afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-24 22:32:34 -- brBetaMaster is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-24 22:54:39 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-24 22:54:39 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-24 23:07:49 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 2013-12-24 23:47:50 --> Lalondey 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15:37:55 PikFan I'M GOING TO SAVE PIKIPEDIA 2013-12-25 15:38:16 PikFan by that I mean 2013-12-25 15:38:30 Espyo you have Pikmin 3?! 2013-12-25 15:38:34 PikFan I got Pikmin 3!!! 2013-12-25 15:38:37 Espyo YES!! 2013-12-25 15:38:55 Espyo that's fantastic news! 2013-12-25 15:38:59 Espyo are you sure you're PikFan, even? 2013-12-25 15:39:02 PikFan so the Wii U is updating 2013-12-25 15:39:13 Espyo your Mibbit icon is blue... 2013-12-25 15:39:20 PikFan yeah, I'm on my 3DS 2013-12-25 15:39:24 Espyo ah, ok 2013-12-25 15:39:37 Espyo in other news, I'm working on Testyo's new game system and it's going pretty fine 2013-12-25 15:39:43 Espyo that's why he's not here atm 2013-12-25 15:39:51 PikFan hm, nice 2013-12-25 15:40:24 PikFan I was super excited when I opened the Wii U box 2013-12-25 15:40:44 Espyo hehe, I bet 2013-12-25 15:40:53 PikFan I was super excited when I opened the Wii U box 2013-12-25 15:40:59 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-25 15:41:54 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-25 15:42:07 Espyo everything ok there? 2013-12-25 15:42:39 PikFan ugh this is why I hate using the 3DS 2013-12-25 15:43:17 PikFan anyway, I also got the Pikmin 3 Prima guide! 2013-12-25 15:43:30 Espyo wow! that's great! 2013-12-25 15:44:01 PikFan Pikipedia will finally take a turn for the better 2013-12-25 15:44:11 Espyo mhm 2013-12-25 15:44:20 Espyo the future is finally looking bright for the superior wiki 2013-12-25 15:44:29 Espyo now would be a good time to update from the crappy old theme as well 2013-12-25 15:44:32 Espyo (mostly background-wise) 2013-12-25 15:44:39 PikFan anyway, U's almost done updating 2013-12-25 15:44:44 Espyo excuse me for a second: "Espyo" 2013-12-25 15:44:48 Espyo there we go 2013-12-25 15:44:49 Espyo maybe 2013-12-25 15:45:00 Espyo Firefox has the "Read dl.dropboxusercontent.com" message stuck on the bottom 2013-12-25 15:45:07 Espyo my ping sound is hosted on my Dropbox you see 2013-12-25 15:45:15 Espyo but the message should be gone already, it's kinda enerving 2013-12-25 15:45:21 PikFan heh 2013-12-25 15:45:25 Espyo *enervating 2013-12-25 15:45:50 PikFan enerving? never heard that word before 2013-12-25 15:45:58 PikFan oh 2013-12-25 15:46:26 PikFan ...uh, quick, how do you charge 2013-12-25 15:46:34 Espyo charge? 2013-12-25 15:46:38 Espyo I don't... know 2013-12-25 15:46:43 Espyo you use the AC adapter 2013-12-25 15:46:53 PikFan no no no 2013-12-25 15:47:03 PikFan in P3 2013-12-25 15:47:03 Espyo oh, Pikmin charge 2013-12-25 15:47:05 Espyo ugh... 2013-12-25 15:47:07 Espyo hold Z on target 2013-12-25 15:47:11 Espyo and shake nunchuck 2013-12-25 15:47:15 PikFan Miles, heeeeeelp 2013-12-25 15:47:27 PikFan oh ok 2013-12-25 15:47:31 Espyo I mean, you point to the target, hold Z, and shake the nunchuck 2013-12-25 15:47:34 Espyo I /think/ 2013-12-25 15:47:38 PikFan thanks 2013-12-25 15:47:42 Espyo there is a super-high chance I completely made that up 2013-12-25 15:47:44 Espyo did it work? 2013-12-25 15:48:05 PikFan just asking in advance 2013-12-25 15:48:09 Espyo oh, heh 2013-12-25 15:48:13 Espyo still, I'm not sure on that 2013-12-25 15:49:33 PikFan now there's a bunch of Miis on my screen, heh 2013-12-25 15:49:49 Espyo hmm 2013-12-25 15:50:36 PikFan okay I guess I have to do ANOTHER update 2013-12-25 15:51:02 Espyo yeah, I think that's a thing 2013-12-25 15:52:51 PikFan so, I also got: 2013-12-25 15:53:29 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-25 15:55:01 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-25 15:55:31 Espyo btw, could you help me test something real quick, with Testyo? 2013-12-25 15:56:11 PikFan so I also got a pair of slippers, a watch, and a $50 GameStop gift card 2013-12-25 15:56:30 PikFan oh and some clothes 2013-12-25 15:56:31 Espyo nice 2013-12-25 15:56:39 Espyo heh, clothes are always a must 2013-12-25 15:56:40 PikFan oh uh sure 2013-12-25 15:56:47 Espyo on #Testyo, please 2013-12-25 16:28:01 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-25 16:30:07 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-25 16:30:51 PikFan kicked me off again, sorry 2013-12-25 16:32:00 PikFan brb 2013-12-25 16:32:25 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-25 16:33:34 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-25 16:34:30 --> PikFan2 (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-25 16:34:55 PikFan2 okay I'm on Wii U 2013-12-25 16:35:18 Espyo mhm 2013-12-25 16:35:52 PikFan2 ...and I guess I'm on 3DS too 2013-12-25 16:36:23 PikFan2 /conflicting 2013-12-25 16:36:35 Espyo heh, yeah 2013-12-25 16:37:28 PikFan2 okay the other one should get off in a moment 2013-12-25 16:38:13 PikFan2 ...what is wrong with me, I'm stalling! 2013-12-25 16:38:29 Espyo hehe 2013-12-25 16:38:30 PikFan2 welp 2013-12-25 16:39:00 PikFan2 going to go play the newest best game in the universe 2013-12-25 16:39:08 PikFan2 bye 2013-12-25 16:39:26 <-- PikFan2 (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: Pikmin 3!!) 2013-12-25 16:40:36 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-25 17:29:53 -- BetaMaster is now known as brBetaMaster 2013-12-25 18:48:03 --> Testyo (Testyo@l36-006-66-304.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-25 18:48:04 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-25 20:21:53 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@l36-006-66-304.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-25 20:21:58 --> Espyo (Mibbit@l36-006-66-304.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-25 20:26:16 <-- Testyo (Testyo@l36-006-66-304.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later 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#pikipedia 2013-12-28 10:30:47 <-- Festivefreak (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-28 12:16:07 --> Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 12:16:07 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-28 12:24:07 --> Espyo (Mibbit@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 14:11:36 @J you remember that YouTube bug I filed a while back, where 'shows' don't get returned in API requests for subscriptions? 2013-12-28 14:11:45 @J 7 months later, it's been 'filed internally' 2013-12-28 14:38:59 Espyo pffheh 2013-12-28 14:39:10 Espyo that only means they were bored, browsed around, and just read the bugs 2013-12-28 14:39:12 Espyo nothing else 2013-12-28 14:39:34 Espyo anyway, what's your thoughts on this? http://www.pikminwiki.com/Pikipedia:Sandbox 2013-12-28 14:39:51 Espyo that box is going to be added to all sublevel sections in the cave articles 2013-12-28 14:40:13 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-28 14:41:06 --> Espyo (Mibbit@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 14:47:26 @J hmm, could be nice 2013-12-28 14:47:33 @J I'm not sure all the technical stuff is necessary 2013-12-28 14:47:36 @J I mean 2013-12-28 14:47:45 @J it would be nice to make it auto-collapsed or something 2013-12-28 14:47:46 Espyo it's not, but it's not unnecessary 2013-12-28 14:47:54 Espyo isn't it already auto-collapsed? 2013-12-28 14:48:01 @J no 2013-12-28 14:48:03 Espyo it starts small for me 2013-12-28 14:48:08 Espyo I have to click the expand button 2013-12-28 14:48:12 Espyo unless we're using different terms here 2013-12-28 14:48:25 @J hmm, seems like the page isn't fully loading 2013-12-28 14:48:49 @J ah, now I see it 2013-12-28 14:48:53 @J yes, that's better 2013-12-28 14:49:19 @J some of the field names could probably be clearer 2013-12-28 14:49:27 @J but I'm not sure how 2013-12-28 14:49:29 Espyo I still need to check them 100% 2013-12-28 14:49:39 Espyo also a {{tt}} would help explaining some of them 2013-12-28 14:49:52 Espyo * maximum is pretty obvious 2013-12-28 14:50:05 @J mm, still sounds a little weird 2013-12-28 14:50:11 @J without a 'number of' 2013-12-28 14:50:11 Espyo unit and lighting file is more technical, it only really matters to those who know what they want 2013-12-28 14:50:24 Espyo I had a bit of trouble wrestling with what to call those to be frank 2013-12-28 14:50:35 Espyo I think they used to be "maximum number of items", or some such 2013-12-28 14:50:47 @J but it probably looked repetitive 2013-12-28 14:50:52 Espyo mhm 2013-12-28 14:50:52 @J I can see that 2013-12-28 14:51:01 Espyo anyway, you know what the greatest problem would be? 2013-12-28 14:51:07 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7`afk 2013-12-28 14:51:08 Espyo this is going to be a template, no question about it 2013-12-28 14:51:14 Espyo but adding the list of cave units... 2013-12-28 14:51:26 Espyo I cannot figure out how to do it by a template 2013-12-28 14:51:57 @J make a second template 2013-12-28 14:52:24 @J {{infothing|units={{caveunit|blah}} {{caveunit|blech}} }} 2013-12-28 14:57:08 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-12-28 14:57:41 --> Espyo (Mibbit@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 14:57:52 Espyo what in the world is up with mibbit, good grief 2013-12-28 14:58:10 Espyo anyway, the problem is that it's image image image image |- name name name name 2013-12-28 14:58:14 Espyo different rows 2013-12-28 14:58:21 Espyo unless we have tables inside tables... 2013-12-28 15:09:52 @J oh, didn't realise that 2013-12-28 15:11:09 @J why not use a gallery? 2013-12-28 15:12:42 Espyo too huge, I think 2013-12-28 15:12:45 Espyo worth giving it a shot 2013-12-28 15:12:50 Espyo don't know if I can set the padding though 2013-12-28 15:12:58 Espyo also right now, all cells are 128x128, painted purple 2013-12-28 15:13:06 Espyo so it looks like the image of the cave unit is centered 2013-12-28 15:13:14 Espyo off-topic: how do I negate in regex? 2013-12-28 15:13:22 @J hmm 2013-12-28 15:13:31 @J you can negate characters using [^...] 2013-12-28 15:13:39 @J but not sure if it works for phrases 2013-12-28 15:13:55 Espyo ah, ^ 2013-12-28 15:13:56 Espyo I was doing ! 2013-12-28 15:14:01 Espyo *shrug* 2013-12-28 15:14:22 Espyo gotta try to see if any floor has that mysterious "Hidden floor" (隠し床) parameter set to anything that ISN'T 0 2013-12-28 15:17:38 @J trying to briefly list features of my game engine 2013-12-28 15:17:41 @J http://sprunge.us/ZSQe 2013-12-28 15:17:44 @J what doesn't make sense? 2013-12-28 15:19:06 Espyo the first bullet point 2013-12-28 15:19:13 Espyo ok, not really 2013-12-28 15:19:14 @J hmm, yeah, probably 2013-12-28 15:19:15 Espyo it makes some sense 2013-12-28 15:19:28 Espyo - automatic framerate adjustment for slowdown 2013-12-28 15:19:35 Espyo does this really change the framerate to compensate slowdown? 2013-12-28 15:19:44 Espyo or does it just use timing based on real time? 2013-12-28 15:19:46 @J it means you can run a world, then from there start another world, then when that world stops it goes back to the first world in the state it was 2013-12-28 15:19:55 @J it changes the framerate 2013-12-28 15:19:58 Espyo right, it's what I imagined 2013-12-28 15:20:04 @J hmm 2013-12-28 15:20:05 Espyo hmm, the other way I said would be better for that 2013-12-28 15:20:21 @J it's a little ambiguous 2013-12-28 15:20:27 Espyo like, every iteration of the main loop 2013-12-28 15:20:34 Espyo check how much time has passed since the last iteration 2013-12-28 15:20:34 @J there's drawing framerate and update rate 2013-12-28 15:20:37 Espyo and then use that for timing 2013-12-28 15:20:43 Espyo instead of moving framerates up and down 2013-12-28 15:20:50 @J update rate is fixed - this isn't really a variable-framerate timer 2013-12-28 15:21:03 @J drawing framerate (the actual 'frame rate') varies 2013-12-28 15:21:04 Espyo is the update rate 100% CPU? 2013-12-28 15:21:19 @J no 2013-12-28 15:21:24 @J it's a fixed rate 2013-12-28 15:21:28 Espyo ah 2013-12-28 15:21:35 Espyo say, may I see your interpolation code real quick? 2013-12-28 15:21:42 @J which part? 2013-12-28 15:21:53 Espyo the part that does actual interpolation between two values 2013-12-28 15:22:15 @J linear interpolation? 2013-12-28 15:22:21 Espyo or rather... 2013-12-28 15:22:24 Espyo something that isn't linear 2013-12-28 15:22:31 Espyo yeah, that's what I want, the non-linear ones 2013-12-28 15:22:50 Espyo just curious to see if I'm doing something horribly wrong on the PFE 2013-12-28 15:22:58 Espyo I /shouldn't/, but knowing my luck, I probably am 2013-12-28 15:23:15 @J mm 2013-12-28 15:23:27 @J https://github.com/ikn/pygame-template/blob/master/game/engine/sched.py#L175 2013-12-28 15:23:28 Espyo - automatic input normalisation to avoid missing buttons that were pressed too early 2013-12-28 15:23:30 Espyo ? 2013-12-28 15:23:39 Espyo thanks 2013-12-28 15:23:53 @J if you're holding right when the game starts, you get a keydown event and the guy starts walking 2013-12-28 15:24:08 @J that link is the function that does damped motion towards a target 2013-12-28 15:24:28 @J all of the interpolation stuff is in that file, if it's something else you were after 2013-12-28 15:25:05 Espyo ah 2013-12-28 15:25:17 Espyo I figured, but calling it input normalisation doesn't seem right 2013-12-28 15:25:26 Espyo right, I'm just seeing around the file 2013-12-28 15:25:34 Espyo yeah, it's pretty much the only way to do interpolation really 2013-12-28 15:26:07 @J well, it determines the state of various inputs and normalises them 2013-12-28 15:26:51 Espyo dunno, it's just not easy to immediately see what that feature is 2013-12-28 15:27:06 Espyo - simple deadzones for axes 2013-12-28 15:27:11 Espyo you are doing these correctly, aren't you? hehe 2013-12-28 15:27:16 @J hopefully 2013-12-28 15:27:22 Espyo there was an article on gamasutra some months ago 2013-12-28 15:27:26 @J they're linear, with 0 at the deadzone point 2013-12-28 15:27:33 Espyo http://gamasutra.com/blogs/JoshSutphin/20130415/190541/Doing_Thumbstick_Dead_Zones_Right.php 2013-12-28 15:27:35 @J yeah, you linked to it 2013-12-28 15:27:51 Espyo very strangely, I have absolutely no need to do anything of the sort 2013-12-28 15:27:57 Espyo uh... maybe it's Allegro doing magic 2013-12-28 15:28:01 Espyo or maybe my controller sucks 2013-12-28 15:28:10 Espyo but the truth is, I never needed to handle deadzones in the PFE 2013-12-28 15:29:44 @J hmm 2013-12-28 15:30:08 @J I find that my Xbox 360 controller can go up to around 0.17 while not touching it 2013-12-28 15:30:16 Espyo wow 2013-12-28 15:30:39 @J now, I'm not actually doing radial deadzones 2013-12-28 15:30:43 @J can't really, because of the way it works 2013-12-28 15:31:02 @J it's like the suggested method there, but everything is square instead 2013-12-28 15:31:07 Espyo right 2013-12-28 15:31:15 @J let me draw it 2013-12-28 15:33:03 @J http://i.imgur.com/vzsIP6H.png 2013-12-28 15:33:06 @J probably like that 2013-12-28 15:33:36 Espyo right 2013-12-28 15:33:40 @J though of course, you can only really think of it as 1-dimensional in the general case 2013-12-28 15:33:45 @J I can't link axes together 2013-12-28 15:34:24 Espyo yeah 2013-12-28 15:34:29 Espyo other than that, the features make sense 2013-12-28 15:34:34 Espyo but 2013-12-28 15:34:36 Espyo - transformation system with automatic chaining 2013-12-28 15:34:42 Espyo chaining? wouldn't that be nesting? 2013-12-28 15:36:04 @J hmm 2013-12-28 15:36:15 @J I thought so, but it doesn't sound right 2013-12-28 15:36:28 @J I think nesting works too 2013-12-28 15:36:40 Espyo well, if it's anything like OpenGL does, it's definitely nesting 2013-12-28 15:36:54 @J what would you say is the difference? 2013-12-28 15:36:55 Espyo you push a translation, push a rotation, then pop the rotation, then push a scale, ... 2013-12-28 15:37:10 @J hmm 2013-12-28 15:37:14 Espyo chaining looks more like transformation multiplication (uh... not exactly sure that's the word) 2013-12-28 15:37:21 Espyo like, if you do a translation followed by a scale 2013-12-28 15:37:26 Espyo I guess that's what I'd assume a chain to be 2013-12-28 15:37:52 @J how it works is that transforms are _always_ applied, in a sense, they just do nothing by default 2013-12-28 15:37:53 Espyo besides, it goes well to your previous usage of "nesting" 2013-12-28 15:38:00 @J and they have a set order, so you can't do any more than once 2013-12-28 15:38:02 Espyo well, that's how it is in reality 2013-12-28 15:38:13 Espyo all defaults are an identity matrix transformation 2013-12-28 15:38:19 @J so, if you rotate, then scale, it will scale and then rotate 2013-12-28 15:38:23 @J because rotate comes last 2013-12-28 15:38:24 Espyo 0x0 translation, 1x1 scale, 0 degree rotation 2013-12-28 15:38:24 Testyo 0 degree = 0 rad 2013-12-28 15:38:29 Espyo exactly Testyo 2013-12-28 15:38:41 Espyo so wait 2013-12-28 15:38:47 Espyo you cannot rotate and then scale, at all? 2013-12-28 15:38:50 Espyo only by "chaining"? 2013-12-28 15:38:50 @J hmm 2013-12-28 15:38:56 @J rotate is a special one 2013-12-28 15:39:28 @J you can do everything else out of order, but because rotation moves the origin in a complex way, it's not really possible to place it before any other transform 2013-12-28 15:39:49 Espyo I'm not really seeing how rotation would be special... 2013-12-28 15:40:07 @J the issue is that all of this is bitmap stuff 2013-12-28 15:41:13 @J hmm, I can't quite remember since I did it a while ago 2013-12-28 15:41:41 Espyo heh 2013-12-28 15:47:57 @J would you call that chaining, then? 2013-12-28 15:48:22 Espyo "that"? 2013-12-28 15:48:31 @J the thing I called chaining 2013-12-28 15:48:40 @J 'transformation system with automatic chaining' 2013-12-28 15:49:17 Espyo uh... 2013-12-28 15:49:21 Espyo what is "the thing", though? 2013-12-28 15:49:23 Espyo we said quite a lot 2013-12-28 15:49:34 @J how transforms work 2013-12-28 15:49:53 @J I called it chaining, you said nesting made more sense 2013-12-28 15:50:14 Espyo I don't think we even reached a conclusion 2013-12-28 15:50:28 Espyo 15:37 Espyo you push a translation, push a rotation, then pop the rotation, then push a scale, ... 2013-12-28 15:50:33 Espyo if that's how it works, it's nesting 2013-12-28 15:51:05 @J think of them like properties 2013-12-28 15:51:11 @J img.angle = pi 2013-12-28 15:51:17 Espyo right, right 2013-12-28 15:51:23 @J img.scale_x = 2 2013-12-28 15:51:38 Espyo (why not img.scale.x?) 2013-12-28 15:51:54 Espyo (not that the PFE uses a "point" class either, but) 2013-12-28 15:52:15 @J .scale_x is more of a convenience accessor for .scale 2013-12-28 15:52:20 Espyo so you set those properties, and every time the screen is drawn, img suffers from those transformations? 2013-12-28 15:52:29 @J there's .scale[0], .scale[1] or .scale_x, .scale_y 2013-12-28 15:52:31 Espyo in the order translation, rotation, scale? 2013-12-28 15:52:35 Espyo ah 2013-12-28 15:52:42 @J translation doesn't really count as a transformation 2013-12-28 15:52:53 Espyo sure, I can see that 2013-12-28 15:52:56 @J because it doesn't change the image, just where it goes 2013-12-28 15:53:00 Espyo right 2013-12-28 15:53:01 @J _builtin_transforms = ('crop', 'flip', 'tint', 'resize', 'rotate') 2013-12-28 15:53:04 @J that's the default order 2013-12-28 15:53:09 Espyo it's /technically/ a transformation 2013-12-28 15:53:13 @J yes 2013-12-28 15:53:14 Espyo right 2013-12-28 15:53:21 Espyo so that's what you consider chaining? 2013-12-28 15:53:23 @J but not a thing handled by img.transform() 2013-12-28 15:53:30 @J that's what I'm calling chaining here, yes 2013-12-28 15:53:35 Espyo well, in that case 2013-12-28 15:53:41 Espyo I think "combining" would be a better word 2013-12-28 15:54:11 @J hmm 2013-12-28 15:54:24 @J actually, what I really wanted to say when I wrote 'automatic chaining' is: 2013-12-28 15:54:46 @J when you change a transform, it re-performs all successive transform 2013-12-28 15:54:58 Espyo oh? 2013-12-28 15:55:13 -- Scr7`afk is now known as Scr7 2013-12-28 15:55:14 @J so, if your image is cropped, resized and rotate, and you resize it, it will start from the cropped state and resize then rotate 2013-12-28 15:55:40 @J if you do img.graphic = some_other_image, it will do all the transforms again 2013-12-28 15:56:03 Espyo ah, I see now 2013-12-28 15:56:06 Espyo hmm 2013-12-28 15:56:13 Espyo well... I guess chaining would be the word then 2013-12-28 15:56:21 Espyo but it's really not easy to understand what it is right away 2013-12-28 15:56:58 @J 'transformation system with automatic retransforming'? 2013-12-28 15:57:38 Espyo yeah, maybe that would make more sense 2013-12-28 16:01:53 @J did you have a suggestion for 'automatic input normalisation to avoid missing buttons that were pressed too early'? 2013-12-28 16:02:30 Espyo uhm, I did think of something while I read it 2013-12-28 16:02:33 Espyo but it's not quite the same 2013-12-28 16:02:40 Espyo basically, "input buffering" 2013-12-28 16:02:45 Espyo that's a thing in Super Smash Bros. Brawl 2013-12-28 16:02:56 Espyo like, you can't punch while in mid-air 2013-12-28 16:02:59 Espyo to punch, you press A 2013-12-28 16:03:13 Espyo if you jump, and then press A four (I think) frames before touching the ground 2013-12-28 16:03:22 Espyo it'll be saved in a buffer, and when you land, you punch 2013-12-28 16:03:31 @J hmm 2013-12-28 16:03:31 Espyo it's not quite the same concept, but it did remind me of it 2013-12-28 16:03:39 @J seems too high-level for me to implement here 2013-12-28 16:03:56 @J mm... 2013-12-28 16:03:57 Espyo right, like I said, it's not the same thing 2013-12-28 16:04:04 Espyo and it's a Brawl-only thing 2013-12-28 16:04:15 Espyo I think it must've been made to battle the wifi delay issues 2013-12-28 16:04:40 @J maybe there could be a thing like EventHandler.postpone(*events) 2013-12-28 16:05:02 @J like .disable(), but to send them through when they're enabled again 2013-12-28 16:05:05 Espyo http://www.ssbwiki.com/Buffer (more reading) 2013-12-28 16:05:16 @J I've seen it in a few games, I think 2013-12-28 16:05:19 Espyo hmm 2013-12-28 16:05:22 @J though I can't remember any in particular 2013-12-28 16:06:03 Espyo anyway, a name for your thing 2013-12-28 16:06:38 Espyo "handling of premature input is considered normal"? 2013-12-28 16:06:39 Espyo ugh 2013-12-28 16:08:39 @J what 2013-12-28 16:09:15 @J that sounds like an article title 2013-12-28 16:09:43 Espyo haha 2013-12-28 16:12:38 Espyo ok, Notepad++'s regex search can't do negation 2013-12-28 16:12:52 Espyo \{f013\} 4 ^0 doesn't work 2013-12-28 16:12:59 Espyo \{f013\} 4 1 does 2013-12-28 16:13:11 Espyo you sure ^ isn't "start of line"? 2013-12-28 16:16:35 Espyo ok, sublevels 2 and 3 of the Snagret Hole have 隠し床 set to 1 2013-12-28 16:17:03 Espyo as does sublevel 1 of the Hole of Heroes 2013-12-28 16:17:36 Espyo and sublevels 1 and 2 of the Dream Den 2013-12-28 16:18:12 Espyo and finally a ton of sublevels in the Glutton's Kitchen 2013-12-28 16:19:01 Espyo nice time for the wiki to die 2013-12-28 16:39:21 Espyo ok, galleries for the template are a definite no 2013-12-28 16:39:28 Espyo they don't even go inside templates, they're pushed out 2013-12-28 16:39:53 Espyo ...disregard that last part 2013-12-28 16:40:14 Espyo either way, too much padding between them, description text is too big... 2013-12-28 17:40:35 @J ech, got distracted 2013-12-28 17:40:39 @J you need the '[]' 2013-12-28 17:40:46 @J that's a character group 2013-12-28 17:41:08 @J so, '[^aoeu]' means any character but 'a', 'o', 'e', 'u' 2013-12-28 17:41:19 @J '[aoeu]' means 'a', 'o', 'e' or 'u' 2013-12-28 17:42:01 Espyo oh 2013-12-28 17:42:27 Espyo ah 2013-12-28 17:42:32 @J https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Mode_parameter 2013-12-28 17:42:35 Espyo either way, the only values that exist for that parameter are 0 and 1 2013-12-28 17:42:39 @J it's not available yet, but this looks interesting 2013-12-28 17:42:41 Espyo do we have that mode? 2013-12-28 17:42:56 Espyo do we have that "mode" feature, is what I meant 2013-12-28 17:43:06 @J it's 1.22, we have 1.21.3 2013-12-28 17:43:10 @J so no, not AT 2013-12-28 17:43:11 @J M 2013-12-28 17:43:13 Espyo doesn't help much, either way 2013-12-28 17:43:18 Espyo for the infobox thing 2013-12-28 17:43:33 @J packed looks like what you would want 2013-12-28 17:44:30 Espyo you still can't set the background color 2013-12-28 17:44:34 Espyo so they don't look all the same size 2013-12-28 17:44:48 Espyo it was really jarring, specially with the long corridor, way2x2_snow 2013-12-28 17:44:59 Espyo either way, I did it now 2013-12-28 17:45:02 Espyo everything works just fine 2013-12-28 17:50:51 Espyo great, wiki died again 2013-12-28 17:56:42 @J wait, I'm not sure what your problem was 2013-12-28 17:56:57 @J with the background colours 2013-12-28 17:57:21 @J anyway, I've seen some wikis have templates which have numbered parameters like unit1, unit2, unit3, ... 2013-12-28 17:57:34 Espyo oh 2013-12-28 17:57:38 @J there's also a 'variables'/'loops' extension, but we don't have it 2013-12-28 17:57:42 Espyo I was wondering about that 2013-12-28 17:57:48 Espyo either way, I've got it settled now 2013-12-28 17:57:54 @J http://stuff.ikn.org.uk/wiki/Loops_test 2013-12-28 17:57:58 @J that's a test of that stuff 2013-12-28 17:58:27 @J how did you do it? 2013-12-28 17:58:41 Espyo let me just finish it and you'll see 2013-12-28 18:04:19 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 18:09:51 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Emergence_Cave&action=edit http://www.pikminwiki.com/Template:Sublevel_technical http://www.pikminwiki.com/Template:Sublevel_units 2013-12-28 18:11:50 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 18:18:21 Espyo Los_Plagas: it's done 2013-12-28 18:18:22 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Emergence_Cave&action=edit http://www.pikminwiki.com/Template:Sublevel_technical http://www.pikminwiki.com/Template:Sublevel_units 2013-12-28 18:18:41 Los_Plagas Yay 2013-12-28 18:18:46 Los_Plagas Oh, and I saw your edit. 2013-12-28 18:18:53 Los_Plagas And it made me think. 2013-12-28 18:19:01 Los_Plagas Can we call ourselves official at all? 2013-12-28 18:19:24 Los_Plagas Nothing's really official unless Nintendo declares one of the wikis to be the right one. 2013-12-28 18:19:37 Espyo that's right 2013-12-28 18:19:42 Espyo that's part of why it requires more discussion 2013-12-28 18:19:59 Espyo (also, working out, so I'll only be able to reply for like every other 2 minutes) 2013-12-28 18:21:12 Los_Plagas We've been getting pretty serious about Wikia over here for a while, now. Do you think that (with more discussion) we might eventually email Nintendo and have them declare us the official one? 2013-12-28 18:21:27 Los_Plagas Well, /ask/ them; they won't just automatically email back and say yes. 2013-12-28 18:22:29 Los_Plagas If we don't, if they eventually choose one wiki to be official, they'll probably choose the Wikia one; Wikia has a /huge/ reputation, and plus it shows up first in Google. 2013-12-28 18:24:51 Espyo absolutely not 2013-12-28 18:24:54 Espyo for a few reasons 2013-12-28 18:25:07 Espyo first, even though Nintendo used to be fine about fan content, they're going /berserk/ lately 2013-12-28 18:25:23 Espyo if we even bring our wiki to their attention, they might decide that we're small time, and shut us down 2013-12-28 18:25:25 Espyo just because they can 2013-12-28 18:25:44 Espyo not to mention that our latest edits happen to include content ripped directly from in-game files 2013-12-28 18:25:48 Espyo and they're kinda negative on hacking 2013-12-28 18:26:09 Espyo of course they know fan wikis exist, I mean, if they don't know about the likes of Bulbapedia yet, then something's VERY seriously wrong 2013-12-28 18:26:26 Espyo but that doesn't mean they won't shut someone down just because they can 2013-12-28 18:26:32 Espyo specially, like I said, small guys like us 2013-12-28 18:26:41 Espyo secondly, they just acknowledge fans as doing fan stuff 2013-12-28 18:26:51 Espyo they don't care that this group is more dedicated or not 2013-12-28 18:27:02 Espyo so they'll see both, disregard the content, and just notice that wikia has more people 2013-12-28 18:27:05 Espyo and hence, is better 2013-12-28 18:27:16 Espyo increases the chances of, if anything, Pikipedia being shunned 2013-12-28 18:27:46 Espyo thirdly, if they realize what wikia is all about, they might decide to contact wikia staff and force them to change ads, in order to include, for instance, ads to Pikmin merchandise 2013-12-28 18:27:53 Espyo making wikia Nintendo's favorite 2013-12-28 18:28:04 Espyo so as you can see, there are several reasons to not contact them 2013-12-28 18:28:14 Los_Plagas Yes, so like I was saying, Wikia will always be "the best" in public eyes. 2013-12-28 18:28:22 Espyo and also, I really doubt they'll ever choose any wiki to be official 2013-12-28 18:28:33 Espyo not even the Carmageddon staff sees my wiki as official 2013-12-28 18:28:36 Espyo and they're really awesome people 2013-12-28 18:28:52 Espyo almost the opposite of Nintendo, in terms of copyright claims and whatnot 2013-12-28 18:29:02 Espyo so companies really don't do "official" wikis 2013-12-28 18:29:27 Los_Plagas Which brings us back to my point. 2013-12-28 18:29:28 Los_Plagas Anyway 2013-12-28 18:29:47 Los_Plagas Could you imagine any hypothetical way we could call ourselves official 2013-12-28 18:30:02 Los_Plagas And I really don't want to call us official unless we /are/ official. 2013-12-28 18:31:42 Espyo right 2013-12-28 18:31:47 Espyo the thing is, "official" is such a buzzword 2013-12-28 18:31:58 Espyo we're "official" in the sense that we are the official WIKI 2013-12-28 18:32:10 Espyo whereas the one hosted on wikia is not the REAL one 2013-12-28 18:32:12 Espyo we are 2013-12-28 18:32:21 Espyo but we're not "official" in the sense that we are endorsed by Nintendo 2013-12-28 18:32:29 Espyo so there must be another word that isn't "official" 2013-12-28 18:32:32 Espyo in addition, there's another problem 2013-12-28 18:32:40 Espyo we do NOT want to point out any comparison to wikia 2013-12-28 18:32:46 Espyo because we do NOT want to mention wikia 2013-12-28 18:32:55 Los_Plagas 2013-12-28 18:40:17 Los_Plagas Because Google is almost always going to be the way we're found 2013-12-28 18:42:36 Espyo SEO? 2013-12-28 18:42:40 Espyo search engine... 2013-12-28 18:42:42 Espyo overdrive? 2013-12-28 18:42:48 Los_Plagas Optomization. 2013-12-28 18:43:12 Los_Plagas *Optimization 2013-12-28 18:43:35 Los_Plagas Basically a term for getting our wiki to number one on Google. 2013-12-28 18:43:50 @J wouldn't it be better if the whole template title were the tt, not some ? on the ed? 2013-12-28 18:43:52 @J *end 2013-12-28 18:46:18 Espyo huh 2013-12-28 18:46:38 Espyo also, Los_Plagas: our best bet right now is to be linked to, instead of searched 2013-12-28 18:47:17 Los_Plagas Linking actually /helps/ with that 2013-12-28 18:47:23 Espyo oh, I see what you mean now @J 2013-12-28 18:47:33 Espyo try it, let's see how it looks 2013-12-28 18:47:42 Espyo yes, linking helps with stuff like Google 2013-12-28 18:47:46 @J Espyo: http://ikn.org.uk/Game_engine - did I miss anything? 2013-12-28 18:47:48 Espyo but besides Google bombing, there's not much we can do 2013-12-28 18:48:02 Espyo seriously, the only thing we can hope for is that our wiki becomes so high quality that we over take wikia 2013-12-28 18:48:05 @J Espyo: template looks better 2013-12-28 18:48:07 Espyo or alternately, wikia poots and died 2013-12-28 18:48:15 @J stops the [show] overlapping the text, too 2013-12-28 18:48:23 Los_Plagas I think the first option is slightly better. 2013-12-28 18:48:30 Los_Plagas Plus it has more of a chance of happening. 2013-12-28 18:48:47 @J poots? 2013-12-28 18:48:58 Espyo farts 2013-12-28 18:49:14 Espyo huh? the [show] doesn't overlap on my end 2013-12-28 18:49:17 @J hmm 2013-12-28 18:49:31 @J wait, it doesn't, but it gets too close 2013-12-28 18:51:48 Espyo well, fine by me, make it the whole tile 2013-12-28 18:51:58 Espyo yeah, it'd be better for people to come to us because we're better 2013-12-28 18:51:59 @J tile? 2013-12-28 18:52:13 Espyo unfortunately, it's mostly a popularity contest... 2013-12-28 18:52:16 Espyo as with most things in life 2013-12-28 18:52:21 Espyo oops, *title 2013-12-28 18:53:48 Espyo J: maybe starting by pointing out the general features 2013-12-28 18:53:59 Espyo like "works for 2D games, either side view, or top view" 2013-12-28 18:54:07 Espyo and only after, specifying the technical features 2013-12-28 18:54:22 @J ah 2013-12-28 18:54:35 @J I suppose I'm assuming knowledge of Pygame 2013-12-28 18:54:45 @J ...which I didn't even mention 2013-12-28 18:54:48 Espyo haha 2013-12-28 18:54:49 Espyo yeah 2013-12-28 18:56:36 @J okay, done 2013-12-28 18:56:45 @J ...except the link goes nowhere 2013-12-28 18:57:06 @J now it does 2013-12-28 18:57:18 Espyo heh, that's right, it doesn— didn't 2013-12-28 18:59:02 Los_Plagas Wasn't there a Pikipedia Facebook page . . . ? 2013-12-28 18:59:04 Los_Plagas I don't recall. 2013-12-28 18:59:19 Los_Plagas Who owns that thing (if it does exist), anyway? 2013-12-28 18:59:26 Espyo don't think there is one, no 2013-12-28 18:59:30 Espyo though that'd be a nice idea 2013-12-28 19:01:11 Los_Plagas https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pikipedia/171251012917698 2013-12-28 19:01:12 Los_Plagas Found it. 2013-12-28 19:03:04 Espyo youch 2013-12-28 19:03:10 Espyo last update last year 2013-12-28 19:03:16 Espyo well, I use Facebook daily 2013-12-28 19:03:20 Espyo once a day, really, not much more than that 2013-12-28 19:03:26 Espyo but I wouldn't mind being an admin there 2013-12-28 19:03:29 Espyo there's tons to talk about 2013-12-28 19:03:33 Espyo random fun fact 2013-12-28 19:03:35 Espyo *facts 2013-12-28 19:03:44 Espyo activity on the wiki, which is only going to increase in the near future 2013-12-28 19:03:53 Espyo in fact, there's something noteworthy right now 2013-12-28 19:03:56 Espyo the project I'm doing 2013-12-28 19:04:32 <-- Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: So long everyone!) 2013-12-28 19:04:35 Los_Plagas Did you know about this before I mentioned it? Because I'm not sure it endorsed by /us/ . . . 2013-12-28 19:04:41 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Killed (NickServ (GHOST command used by AirMario))) 2013-12-28 19:04:47 Los_Plagas Still, it could be useful if we found whoever owns it 2013-12-28 19:05:01 --> Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 19:05:01 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-28 19:05:04 Los_Plagas And asks them to update it with the stuff we've been doing. 2013-12-28 19:05:11 Espyo could be Porple 2013-12-28 19:05:13 Espyo or Prez 2013-12-28 19:05:26 Los_Plagas Testyo . . . ? 2013-12-28 19:05:27 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 19:05:33 Los_Plagas Anyway, it could be them. 2013-12-28 19:05:51 Espyo I glitched Testyo, had to restart him 2013-12-28 19:06:54 Espyo specifically, if he's kicked and then I tell him to rejoin, he'll think he's already on the channel he was kicked out of 2013-12-28 19:06:59 Espyo chat-wise, Testyo works fine 2013-12-28 19:07:02 Espyo but internally, he's just a mess... 2013-12-28 19:07:58 Los_Plagas If I ever managed to program something, as long as it worked fine I wouldn't care how neat it was 2013-12-28 19:08:00 Los_Plagas Until I updated it. 2013-12-28 19:08:34 Espyo exactly 2013-12-28 19:08:37 Espyo that's the problem 2013-12-28 19:08:43 Espyo recently, I made him not join a channel if he's already there 2013-12-28 19:08:47 Espyo aaaaaand that resulted in this glitch 2013-12-28 19:11:34 Los_Plagas You think the Facebook page could help us at all? 2013-12-28 19:11:48 Espyo if we gather fans, yeah 2013-12-28 19:14:21 Los_Plagas Wikia doesn't have one. 2013-12-28 19:14:38 Los_Plagas The secret to social media . . . 2013-12-28 19:14:58 Los_Plagas Now that I think of it, Wikia's basically a social media in itself . . . 2013-12-28 19:15:07 Los_Plagas *social media site 2013-12-28 19:16:48 Espyo mhm 2013-12-28 19:16:55 Espyo in fact, wikia is trying to become facebook 2013-12-28 19:17:00 Espyo how pathetic 2013-12-28 19:17:11 Espyo everyone's trying to be facebook now, regardless of the damage that causes 2013-12-28 19:17:19 Espyo wikia tried to focus more on being social, and less on content 2013-12-28 19:17:27 Espyo result = it's hated by people who genuinely care about wikis 2013-12-28 19:17:35 Espyo youtube tried to focus more on being social, and less on users 2013-12-28 19:17:44 Espyo result = it's broken to bits and now everybody hates G+ more than ever 2013-12-28 19:20:18 Los_Plagas If G+ hadn't done that, Bob and his army of tanks probably wouldn't be showing up nearly so much. 2013-12-28 19:20:55 Espyo yeah 2013-12-28 19:21:25 @J [18:59:19] Los_Plagas Who owns that thing (if it does exist), anyway? 2013-12-28 19:21:26 Los_Plagas Hmmm 2013-12-28 19:21:30 @J I would guess Porple 2013-12-28 19:21:53 Los_Plagas Maybe we could turn "Bob" against Wikia . . . 2013-12-28 19:21:56 Espyo Testyo: memo Prez would you happen to know who owns the Pikipedia Facebook page? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pikipedia/171251012917698 2013-12-28 19:21:57 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for Prez saying: would you happen to know who owns the Pikipedia Facebook page? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pikipedia/171251012917698. 2013-12-28 19:22:10 Espyo does he log in as "Prez", or "Prezintenden"? 2013-12-28 19:22:18 Los_Plagas Does Prez usually use the alias of "Prez," or Prezintenden-- 2013-12-28 19:22:18 @J varies 2013-12-28 19:22:25 Espyo heh 2013-12-28 19:22:27 Espyo hmm 2013-12-28 19:22:31 Los_Plagas Should probably memo "Prezintenden" too. 2013-12-28 19:22:32 @J but that was created since he became inactive, I think 2013-12-28 19:22:35 Espyo Testyo: Prezintenden is an alias of Prez 2013-12-28 19:22:35 Testyo Done. Now I know that the nickname Prezintenden is an alias of Prez. 2013-12-28 19:22:36 @J so I doubt he knows anything 2013-12-28 19:22:42 Espyo still worth a try 2013-12-28 19:22:58 Los_Plagas Does Porple typically go on the IRC? 2013-12-28 19:23:45 @J no 2013-12-28 19:23:56 @J he only really does hosting; he's more involved in MarioWiki 2013-12-28 19:24:08 @J but he replies quickly to stuff on his talk page 2013-12-28 19:27:20 Los_Plagas That page was pretty weak. 2013-12-28 19:27:35 Los_Plagas Do you think it would be better to start a new one as a Facebook /group/? 2013-12-28 19:28:01 Los_Plagas After all, we are a community, so a group would express that better than a page. 2013-12-28 19:28:05 Espyo hmm 2013-12-28 19:28:15 Espyo but I'm probably the only one who actually has a Facebook page, out of all Pikipedians 2013-12-28 19:28:50 Espyo I'd rather keep that page 2013-12-28 19:28:55 Espyo we could keep the Likes 2013-12-28 19:28:56 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-28 19:29:06 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 19:29:19 Los_Plagas I suppose you're right. 2013-12-28 19:29:28 Los_Plagas We don't have too many users anyway. 2013-12-28 19:30:50 Espyo exactly 2013-12-28 19:31:33 Los_Plagas What's the kind of stuff you'd be planning to ask whoever owns it to post, anyway? 2013-12-28 19:31:43 Los_Plagas Announcements for important things? 2013-12-28 19:32:57 Espyo ownership 2013-12-28 19:33:03 Espyo it's clear the person in charge is bored with it already 2013-12-28 19:33:09 Espyo so they probably wouldn't mind shifting ownership 2013-12-28 19:33:17 Espyo or at least shared ownership 2013-12-28 19:34:02 Los_Plagas Does Facebook have a way to do that? 2013-12-28 19:34:17 Los_Plagas Allow someone to be another admin? 2013-12-28 19:35:08 --> Festivefreak (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 19:35:15 Espyo yep 2013-12-28 19:35:22 Espyo I've seen a few pages having shifted ownership 2013-12-28 19:35:23 Espyo I think 2013-12-28 19:36:03 <-- Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-28 19:36:37 Los_Plagas What if we don't find who owns it? 2013-12-28 19:36:49 Los_Plagas As in, it's not Porple (or Prez) 2013-12-28 19:37:05 @J http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=63466&oldid=62855 2013-12-28 19:37:06 @J hmm 2013-12-28 19:37:09 Los_Plagas Are we going to try to contact them via Facebook, give up the idea, or start another page? 2013-12-28 19:37:15 @J maybe the same guy did it 2013-12-28 19:37:26 @J in which case, chances of contacting him are low 2013-12-28 19:37:50 Los_Plagas . . . It has the exact same posts as the Facebook page. 2013-12-28 19:37:59 Los_Plagas I'd wager it's the same guy. 2013-12-28 19:38:07 @J yeah, and 'Joined Facebook 2013-12-28 19:38:08 @J 14 January 2011' 2013-12-28 19:38:14 Los_Plagas It's Revan! 2013-12-28 19:38:23 @J mhm 2013-12-28 19:38:31 Los_Plagas Very bottom: "Welcome to Pikipedia Twitter. The founder, Revan . . ." 2013-12-28 19:38:34 @J he came back for a little while a couple of years ago 2013-12-28 19:38:42 @J did some things 2013-12-28 19:38:45 @J then vanished again 2013-12-28 19:38:59 Los_Plagas Oh, Dark Lord Revan . . . 2013-12-28 19:40:14 Los_Plagas According to him, "even if I'm not that active [. . .] I still care about this wiki. I don't wanna lose my baby." 2013-12-28 19:40:23 Los_Plagas He might still occasionally check this place. 2013-12-28 19:40:34 Los_Plagas If we message his talk-page, he might see the notification. 2013-12-28 19:41:17 Espyo drat 2013-12-28 19:41:26 Espyo yeah 2013-12-28 19:41:31 Espyo guess we'll have to use his talk page 2013-12-28 19:41:59 Los_Plagas Calling the wiki "his baby" seems to suggest that he really does care. 2013-12-28 19:42:20 Los_Plagas But I suppose that's how a lot of people feel about their new dog up until they give it to the pound. 2013-12-28 19:45:16 Espyo yeah... 2013-12-28 19:47:35 Los_Plagas I have a (little-used) Twitter. His little thing is pretty inactive, but I could message the Pikipedia account if you think it could help. 2013-12-28 19:50:13 Espyo it would help, thanks 2013-12-28 19:50:27 Espyo he should at least be notified, even if he doesn't use it ofte 2013-12-28 19:50:29 Espyo *n 2013-12-28 19:52:07 Los_Plagas Are you looking to take over the Twitter account, too? 2013-12-28 19:54:34 Espyo no, I don't use twitter 2013-12-28 19:54:39 Espyo also "take over" is so harsh... 2013-12-28 19:54:44 Espyo I'm just giving it new life 2013-12-28 19:55:37 Los_Plagas It's basically what you're doing with the Facebook. 2013-12-28 19:55:49 Los_Plagas Take over doesn't have to be all military or anything. 2013-12-28 19:55:53 Espyo hehe 2013-12-28 19:55:55 Espyo I suppose 2013-12-28 19:56:14 Los_Plagas Think about it as taking over a position at a job because the last person quit. 2013-12-28 20:00:08 Los_Plagas If Revan doesn't respond, are you going to give up or make an entirely new page for the wiki? 2013-12-28 20:00:22 Espyo give up 2013-12-28 20:00:39 Espyo it hasn't been important so far, it's not going to start now unless everything points in that direction 2013-12-28 20:02:41 Los_Plagas If he does pass it on to you, though, do you think it'll actually help attract people to the wiki? 2013-12-28 20:04:01 Espyo thanks for actually complaining that I sent you a boolean when you wanted a string, C++ 2013-12-28 20:04:11 Espyo that certainly didn't cause you to crash with a not-really-descriptive error 2013-12-28 20:04:14 Espyo sigh 2013-12-28 20:04:19 Espyo Los_Plagas: it might 2013-12-28 20:04:21 Espyo only time will tell 2013-12-28 20:05:19 Los_Plagas To be honest, I think we're probably the first people to actually look at the page in probably /months/. 2013-12-28 20:08:06 Espyo mhm 2013-12-28 20:08:14 Espyo then again, nobody checks updates by going to the page 2013-12-28 20:08:28 Espyo when somebody likes a page, they get new updates on their main Facebook page 2013-12-28 20:09:37 Los_Plagas So about 22 people get nonexistent updates, assuming they didn't uncheck the "Follow" button when they liked it. 2013-12-28 20:10:38 Espyo right 2013-12-28 20:15:25 Los_Plagas And I doubt anybody was really interested in it anyway. 2013-12-28 20:15:45 Espyo who knows 2013-12-28 20:15:53 Espyo maybe they'll be more interested once I start giving better updates 2013-12-28 20:24:14 Los_Plagas Perhaps. 2013-12-28 20:24:38 Los_Plagas What kind of "better updates" are you planning to post, anyway? 2013-12-28 20:28:42 Espyo random fun facts 2013-12-28 20:28:47 Espyo updates on changes to the wiki 2013-12-28 20:28:55 Espyo updates on Pikmin 3 DLC and the like 2013-12-28 20:29:11 Los_Plagas All those sound good. 2013-12-28 20:29:25 Los_Plagas But give me an example of a "fun fact." 2013-12-28 20:29:50 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Template:Did_you_know&action=edit 2013-12-28 20:30:24 Los_Plagas Ah, the "Did You Know" facts. 2013-12-28 20:30:39 Los_Plagas Do you think we should update those? 2013-12-28 20:32:29 Espyo I added one yesterday (or so) 2013-12-28 20:35:31 Los_Plagas I think we've kind of exhausted the social media topic. I think we should probably move on. 2013-12-28 20:35:55 Los_Plagas Did Pikfan give you any word on when he'd get back from his "hiatus"? I haven't seen him on chat for /ages/. 2013-12-28 20:38:07 Espyo he pops up at times on IRC 2013-12-28 20:38:35 Los_Plagas UGH 2013-12-28 20:38:40 --> Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 20:38:40 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-28 20:38:40 Los_Plagas If he does, I always miss him, 2013-12-28 20:38:44 Espyo Testyo: record PikFan 2013-12-28 20:38:44 Testyo What I know about PikFan is: Recording since 07/08/2013. Last activity on 25/12/2013 16:26 (d/m/y GMT). Total number of words is 32247. Total number of lines is 9252. (3.48541 words/line.) Number game victories: 69. Hangman victories: 30. Scrambled word victories: 323. Last words were: yep, Z + shake, on #Testyo. 2013-12-28 20:38:57 Espyo last here on Christmas 2013-12-28 20:39:22 Los_Plagas Meep 2013-12-28 20:39:29 Los_Plagas According to his page on Pikmin Fanon 2013-12-28 20:39:46 Los_Plagas He's losing interest in Pikmin Fanon Wiki. 2013-12-28 20:39:52 Espyo hm 2013-12-28 20:39:55 Los_Plagas I hope that doesn't apply for the whole Pikmin franchise. 2013-12-28 20:40:05 Espyo no, he's always eager to help on Pikipedia 2013-12-28 20:42:41 Los_Plagas "Status: Okay, so I'm popping in and out, still not nearly as active as I once was. I have full access to the computer now, but... I don't know, it's like I'm losing interest in Pikmin Fanon, as sad as I am to say it... Maybe the inactivity here has taken its toll on me. But don't worry, I'm not going to disappear forever! I'll still be checking in." 2013-12-28 20:43:11 Espyo hm 2013-12-28 20:44:57 Los_Plagas "hm" indeed. 2013-12-28 20:49:29 Los_Plagas Anyway, at least that means his hiatus is over, so if he feels up to it, he'll be able to edit Pikipedia when he wants/ 2013-12-28 20:51:31 Espyo yep 2013-12-28 20:54:40 Los_Plagas I'm curious about this 2013-12-28 20:54:45 Los_Plagas Testyo: record Jimbo Jambo 2013-12-28 20:54:45 Testyo I have no record on the nickname Jimbo Jambo. 2013-12-28 20:54:50 Los_Plagas Testyo: record Jimbo 2013-12-28 20:54:50 Testyo I have no record on the nickname Jimbo. 2013-12-28 20:54:54 Los_Plagas Hmm 2013-12-28 20:54:59 Los_Plagas Testyo: record Pikdude 2013-12-28 20:54:59 Testyo I have no record on the nickname Pikdude. 2013-12-28 20:55:17 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-12-28 20:55:43 Espyo guess it doesn't go back that far 2013-12-28 20:55:48 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-28 20:55:55 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 20:55:58 Los_Plagas Yeh 2013-12-28 20:56:09 Los_Plagas I wasn't really expecting him to be able to find those records 2013-12-28 20:56:23 Los_Plagas Especially as far back as Pikdue 2013-12-28 20:56:29 Los_Plagas *Pikdude 2013-12-28 20:56:33 Los_Plagas Can he do this? 2013-12-28 20:56:38 Los_Plagas Testyo: record Testyo 2013-12-28 20:56:38 Testyo I have no record on the nickname Testyo. 2013-12-28 20:56:48 Los_Plagas . . . 2013-12-28 20:56:58 Espyo no special response to that... yet 2013-12-28 20:57:14 Los_Plagas I sense another easter-egg in the making. 2013-12-28 20:59:47 Espyo mhm 2013-12-28 21:00:27 Los_Plagas I'll tell everyone on the channel about it! 2013-12-28 21:00:28 Los_Plagas . . . 2013-12-28 21:00:42 Los_Plagas So basically, J and I will know about it. 2013-12-28 21:00:49 Espyo heh 2013-12-28 21:00:53 Espyo there's still #Testyo 2013-12-28 21:01:19 Los_Plagas I suppose. 2013-12-28 21:01:33 @J I last saw JJ 19th December 2012 2013-12-28 21:01:45 Los_Plagas Do you think it's kind of sad that more people go on Testyo's channel than the Pikipedia channel? 2013-12-28 21:02:08 Los_Plagas @J: yeah, his very last edit was, I think, right before Christmas; something about my edit to the glitches page . . . 2013-12-28 21:02:27 @J [21:01:45] Los_Plagas Do you think it's kind of sad that more people go on Testyo's channel than thePikipedia channel? 2013-12-28 21:02:30 @J they do? 2013-12-28 21:02:40 Los_Plagas Not all at once 2013-12-28 21:02:58 Los_Plagas But all the users of the Pikipedia channel go there 2013-12-28 21:03:09 Los_Plagas And there are also people who don't go here either. 2013-12-28 21:03:38 Los_Plagas So it's simple: #pikipedia = us, #Testyo = us + other random people. 2013-12-28 21:03:51 @J conclusion: Testyo > Pikipedia? 2013-12-28 21:04:04 Espyo yeah 2013-12-28 21:04:11 Espyo well, people from all around the network go on #Testyo 2013-12-28 21:04:41 Los_Plagas Yes, that's basically it. 2013-12-28 21:06:47 Los_Plagas @J: yesterday, Espyo mentioned that he and you were still working behind the scenes with the issue of Pikipedia's background image. Any progress? 2013-12-28 21:07:17 Espyo working on and off, really 2013-12-28 21:08:41 Espyo ok, Cards Against Humanity works too bloody brilliantly 2013-12-28 21:08:50 Espyo I've had a lot of fun doing one match, on another network 2013-12-28 21:08:58 Espyo we'll play on #Testyo soon 2013-12-28 21:09:45 Los_Plagas cards against humanity? 2013-12-28 21:10:41 Espyo mhm 2013-12-28 21:10:42 Espyo https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/47921869/Permanent/Testyo/Help.html#cah 2013-12-28 21:15:22 Los_Plagas Sounds fun. 2013-12-28 21:20:16 Los_Plagas Something just occurred to me. 2013-12-28 21:20:25 Espyo yeah? 2013-12-28 21:20:41 Los_Plagas Do you think that, in the future, Testyo could become smarter, conversation-wise? 2013-12-28 21:21:13 Los_Plagas Kind of like ALICE in the sense that he's able to reply to simple questions in the manner a human would. 2013-12-28 21:22:09 Espyo heh, not likely 2013-12-28 21:23:44 Los_Plagas Because the Cleverbot-esque way he replies now isn't really realistic, as we don't focus on the kinds of things a human making small talk with Cleverbot would. 2013-12-28 21:24:52 Espyo yeah 2013-12-28 21:24:59 Espyo not to mention Testyo is filled with other stuff 2013-12-28 21:25:05 Espyo adding smartness on top of that... 2013-12-28 21:32:41 @J his intelligence is less surprising if it happens by chance, right? 2013-12-28 21:33:10 Espyo yeah 2013-12-28 21:33:20 @J *more 2013-12-28 21:33:24 @J more surprising 2013-12-28 21:34:26 @J http://ikn.org.uk/ minor redesign; anything obviously gone wrong? 2013-12-28 21:35:00 @J if you search and get no results, the footer overlaps the sidebar badly; not sure how to fix that 2013-12-28 21:36:09 <-- Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-28 21:37:48 Los_Plagas The issue happens on the "About" page, too. 2013-12-28 21:38:04 @J ah, yes 2013-12-28 21:38:08 @J not so badly, though 2013-12-28 21:38:35 Los_Plagas I think it happens on pages that are really short. 2013-12-28 21:38:46 Espyo right, I read it as "more surprising" 2013-12-28 21:38:47 Los_Plagas Should be pretty obvious, but the longer a page is, the more it's pushed down. 2013-12-28 21:39:16 @J yep 2013-12-28 21:39:16 Los_Plagas : his intelligence is less surprising if it happens by chance, right? 2013-12-28 21:39:19 Los_Plagas Well, no 2013-12-28 21:39:23 Los_Plagas Because it's not really intelligence 2013-12-28 21:39:56 Los_Plagas It's charming to see him respond in a way that simulates intelligence, but it wouldn't be /actual/ intelligence unless it would've happened under any circumstance. 2013-12-28 21:39:57 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 21:40:15 Espyo right 2013-12-28 21:40:26 @J yes, of course, I meant 'apparent intelligence' 2013-12-28 21:42:58 Espyo dinner now 2013-12-28 21:43:54 --> Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 21:43:54 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-28 21:43:56 @J I could hack it by having an invisible box floated left with a great enough height and then clear:left on the footer 2013-12-28 21:44:09 @J I would feel pretty bad, though 2013-12-28 21:44:26 Los_Plagas I suppose you could 2013-12-28 21:44:39 Los_Plagas But wouldn't you have to redo the process for every page? 2013-12-28 21:44:48 Los_Plagas (And feel bad about it for every page) 2013-12-28 21:45:15 Los_Plagas And if there's a lot of pages with the issue (AKA short pages), than that might get a bit cumbersome. 2013-12-28 21:46:56 @J no, it's templated 2013-12-28 21:47:10 @J I would just have to edit one file 2013-12-28 21:51:21 @J well, I did it 2013-12-28 21:51:23 @J so ashamed 2013-12-28 21:52:48 Los_Plagas There's no reason to be ashamed for it if there was no other way. 2013-12-28 21:53:02 Los_Plagas Best solution: stick with this and /never ever/ see if there was really another way. 2013-12-28 22:03:29 Espyo hacky hacky hacky 2013-12-28 22:03:35 Espyo I'll make sure to point this down on your permanent record 2013-12-28 22:04:43 @J hey, at least I gave it an appropriate id 2013-12-28 22:07:00 Los_Plagas Yes. 2013-12-28 22:07:02 Los_Plagas Blackmail. 2013-12-28 22:07:39 Los_Plagas "Subject onced used 'hacky hacky hacky' programming to get around an overlapping footer." 2013-12-28 22:07:44 Los_Plagas It'll ruin J's life forever. 2013-12-28 22:07:52 Los_Plagas He'll never get a job after this. 2013-12-28 22:17:48 Espyo yep 2013-12-28 22:18:29 Los_Plagas For sure 2013-12-28 22:18:54 Los_Plagas Though perhaps I'd add DON'T GIVE HIM THE JOB after that. 2013-12-28 23:25:17 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 23:25:17 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-28 23:25:32 @PikFan hi 2013-12-28 23:25:49 Los_Plagas Well, hello, Mr. "I've lost interest in Pikmin Fanon." 2013-12-28 23:25:59 @PikFan so, I've learned lots about Pikmin 3 2013-12-28 23:26:13 Los_Plagas By playing it, you lucky lucky person. 2013-12-28 23:26:20 Espyo hi 2013-12-28 23:26:32 @PikFan hi Los_Plagas 2013-12-28 23:26:42 Los_Plagas Hi! 2013-12-28 23:26:52 @PikFan for instance, 2013-12-28 23:27:21 Los_Plagas Hi! 2013-12-28 23:27:29 @PikFan I learned that Blues don't rescue drowning Pikmin :| 2013-12-28 23:27:31 Los_Plagas Ugh, meant to press up on Testyo's channel. 2013-12-28 23:27:32 Los_Plagas Wut 2013-12-28 23:27:36 Los_Plagas Oh no! 2013-12-28 23:27:41 Los_Plagas How could they get rid of that? 2013-12-28 23:27:51 Los_Plagas That's like, signature Blue Pikmin. 2013-12-28 23:27:58 Los_Plagas Besides breathing in water, of course. 2013-12-28 23:28:00 @PikFan because Nintendo's mean 2013-12-28 23:28:31 Espyo ...what 2013-12-28 23:28:34 Espyo dammit Nintendo 2013-12-28 23:30:13 Los_Plagas I'll have to go in a few minutes, but I'll be back as soon as possible. I haven't talked to you in AGES, Pikfan, so don't log off for a while. 'kay? 'kay. 2013-12-28 23:31:50 @PikFan and also, if Pikmin bring something to the Onion/ship, and the active leader is nearby, they don't join the group 2013-12-28 23:32:04 @PikFan they remain idle 2013-12-28 23:32:56 @PikFan P3 must've had a new dev team... 2013-12-28 23:33:07 Los_Plagas Couldn't you tell just by looking at it 2013-12-28 23:33:15 Los_Plagas *? 2013-12-28 23:33:24 Los_Plagas Everything's just so . . . /glossy/ 2013-12-28 23:33:39 @PikFan that's graphics 2013-12-28 23:33:51 @PikFan because of the Wii U's HD 2013-12-28 23:34:20 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 2013-12-28 23:34:51 @PikFan but yeah, if I were to rate it, it'd be 99/100 2013-12-28 23:35:27 @PikFan the missing point being bad controls 2013-12-28 23:35:31 Los_Plagas Okay, I think I really need to go now. I WILL talk to you later, Pikfan, no matter what, so stay on! OR ELSE . . . I WON'T BE ABLE TO TALK TO YOU! 2013-12-28 23:35:48 @PikFan mmkay 2013-12-28 23:40:13 Espyo so PikFan, did you see my latest edits? 2013-12-28 23:40:20 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: Miiverse, brb) 2013-12-28 23:47:47 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-28 23:47:47 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-28 23:48:44 @PikFan back 2013-12-28 23:54:51 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-28 23:58:56 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@wiwn-umbipe8.dsl.mindspring.com) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-29 00:06:43 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 00:06:43 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-29 00:07:58 @PikFan ok so it'll be a few more days before I'm ready to start dumping information onto the wiki 2013-12-29 00:07:59 <-- Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-29 00:08:08 --> Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 00:08:08 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 00:08:57 <-- Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 00:10:34 @PikFan but when I do, we'll show wikia 2013-12-29 00:12:52 --> Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 00:12:52 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 00:12:59 Espyo hehe yeah 2013-12-29 00:13:11 @PikFan and I'm having a hard time finishing up the Distant Tundra, because of those stupid Bearded Amprats 2013-12-29 00:13:31 @PikFan they keep eating my Pikmin 2013-12-29 00:14:10 @PikFan and I've already lost 10 Pikmin 2013-12-29 00:16:04 Espyo hehe 2013-12-29 00:16:10 Espyo don't go for a perfect run on the first run 2013-12-29 00:16:12 Espyo it ruins the fun 2013-12-29 00:16:58 @PikFan but I already lost 10 Pikmin 2013-12-29 00:17:14 Espyo that's not a lot 2013-12-29 00:17:17 Espyo for a normal playthrough 2013-12-29 00:18:06 @PikFan I guess I'll go play P3 now 2013-12-29 00:18:11 @PikFan bye 2013-12-29 00:18:27 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: Pikmin 3) 2013-12-29 00:45:22 <-- Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-29 00:45:47 --> Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 00:45:47 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 00:48:34 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 00:48:46 Los_Plagas ARGH PikFan left 2013-12-29 00:51:10 Espyo yeah, he's on Pikmin 3 2013-12-29 00:51:44 Los_Plagas I'm sure he's having lots of fun . . . leaving pitiful me in the dust, without Wii U nor Pikmin 3 in sight. . . . 2013-12-29 00:52:15 Los_Plagas Ah, the joys of being young and being able to get almost anything as long as your parents say yes. . . . 2013-12-29 00:56:04 Espyo heh 2013-12-29 00:56:05 Espyo and me 2013-12-29 00:56:12 Espyo no, the joys of having money 2013-12-29 00:56:49 Los_Plagas The definition of money: something you lose once you no longer live with your parents. 2013-12-29 01:00:35 Los_Plagas Definition 2. Something that can be used to buy Pikmin 3. 2013-12-29 01:00:59 Los_Plagas Why couldn't Pikmin 3 be for the Wii?! 2013-12-29 01:01:12 Los_Plagas Why do you have to buy a whole new console just for Pikmin 3? 2013-12-29 01:01:18 Espyo yep 2013-12-29 01:01:23 Espyo oh well 2013-12-29 01:01:26 Espyo at least it's prettier 2013-12-29 01:02:22 Los_Plagas And perhaps better. 2013-12-29 01:02:28 Los_Plagas Besides the Blue Pikmin issue. 2013-12-29 01:02:31 Los_Plagas That was sad. 2013-12-29 01:02:49 Los_Plagas I wonder if the Pikmin have better A.I. overall, though. 2013-12-29 01:02:59 Los_Plagas It would be nice to see some Pikmin that could work by themselves. 2013-12-29 01:04:36 Espyo yeah... 2013-12-29 01:05:20 Espyo they can go back once they grab a piece of bridge, though 2013-12-29 01:05:21 Espyo and grab another 2013-12-29 01:05:41 Los_Plagas Well, they're specifically scripted to do that 2013-12-29 01:06:15 Los_Plagas A true A.I. would be able to do something without the game necessarily forcing it to do so, just giving it some pointers and letting the A.I. do the rest. 2013-12-29 01:06:39 Espyo yeah 2013-12-29 01:06:49 Espyo then again, the whole point of the game is you finding the time to micro-manage everything 2013-12-29 01:07:50 Los_Plagas I saw a Japanese video of one of the boss fights, and I could've sworn the captains talked with real voice-acting . . . 2013-12-29 01:07:52 Los_Plagas Do they? 2013-12-29 01:08:11 Los_Plagas Of course, if it was dialogue and not just gibberish, it was in Japanese? 2013-12-29 01:08:13 Los_Plagas *. 2013-12-29 01:08:23 Los_Plagas But I'd want to hear the English version of that. 2013-12-29 01:10:19 Espyo I think it's Japanese gibberish 2013-12-29 01:10:28 Espyo Japanese lines are the same as English ones 2013-12-29 01:10:31 Espyo game version-wise 2013-12-29 01:12:16 Los_Plagas That's too bad. 2013-12-29 01:12:30 Los_Plagas I would love to see real voice-acting in a Pikmin game. 2013-12-29 01:12:50 Los_Plagas But really, they're so great that voice-acting would just be one cherry on the figurative cake. 2013-12-29 01:15:00 Espyo yeah 2013-12-29 01:15:07 Espyo even simple stuff would be great 2013-12-29 01:18:02 Los_Plagas But anyway, now we have /two/ people in our wiki with Pikmin 3. 2013-12-29 01:18:55 Los_Plagas I think the only reason we're not up to speed on everything in Pikmin 3 is that our user base is so damn small. If none of us buy Pikmin 3, no new users going to suddenly sign up with the game. 2013-12-29 01:19:11 Los_Plagas Unlike Wikia. 2013-12-29 01:19:43 Los_Plagas It's a shame that our main userbase consists of people who moved here from Wikia, not people who joined here because they wanted to contribute to a Pikmin information source. 2013-12-29 01:19:56 Los_Plagas The latter usually goes to Wikia, where their talents are wasted. 2013-12-29 01:20:20 Espyo yeah 2013-12-29 01:22:24 Los_Plagas Meh. 2013-12-29 01:22:32 Los_Plagas Did you implement the new game into Testyo yet? 2013-12-29 01:23:03 Los_Plagas If his code is really as messy as you say it is, I'd recommend tidying up the stuff that makes him run while you're there. 2013-12-29 01:23:44 Espyo I did 2013-12-29 01:24:01 Espyo the general internals are slightly messy 2013-12-29 01:24:05 Los_Plagas The tidying up of code, the game, or both? 2013-12-29 01:24:14 Espyo just general 2013-12-29 01:24:26 Espyo but recently I worked on improving the way games work 2013-12-29 01:24:30 Espyo so making games is super robust 2013-12-29 01:24:35 Espyo anyway, the game IS done 2013-12-29 01:24:38 Espyo I played 5 matches already 2013-12-29 01:24:39 Espyo super fun 2013-12-29 01:24:47 Espyo but I'll show it here tomorrow 2013-12-29 01:25:52 Espyo gotta tweak one or two things 2013-12-29 01:25:56 Espyo besides, I'm Brawling, so... 2013-12-29 01:26:59 Los_Plagas Brawl . . . everyone keeps mentioning it; I'll have to pick it up sooner or later. . . . 2013-12-29 01:28:35 Espyo well, you're better off waiting for Smash 4 now 2013-12-29 01:29:39 Los_Plagas There's a good chance Smash 4 will be on the Wii U, in which case . . . 2013-12-29 01:37:39 Los_Plagas That would be bad. 2013-12-29 01:37:48 Los_Plagas As I'm probably not going to get the Wii U soon. 2013-12-29 01:38:16 Los_Plagas In fact, I'll probably get the Wii U after a few more generations of the Wii. 2013-12-29 01:38:46 Los_Plagas And when Pikmin 3 is old, Pikmin 2 is older, and I'll be able to sell my copy of Pikmin at an antique website. 2013-12-29 01:41:10 Espyo I might get a Wii U soon 2013-12-29 01:42:00 Los_Plagas That's great 2013-12-29 01:42:12 Los_Plagas If you do, you can send me pictures and I'll pretend I'm in them. 2013-12-29 01:44:17 Los_Plagas If you do, though, you'll be able to seriously help our Pikmin 3 stuff, so that's a plus. 2013-12-29 01:44:26 Los_Plagas Maybe you'll even be able to hack it and get an inside look at the code. 2013-12-29 01:45:11 Los_Plagas Of course, I'm assuming you'll get Pikmin 3, too. 2013-12-29 01:45:40 Espyo heh 2013-12-29 01:45:54 Espyo yeah, I'd put aside everything and dedicate myself on the wiki for a full two weeks 2013-12-29 01:46:34 Los_Plagas Tell that to your professor. 2013-12-29 01:47:04 Los_Plagas "I promised Los_Plagas on the chat that I would dedicate myself to the wiki for two weeks, so that's why I'm missing two weeks' worth of assignments!" 2013-12-29 01:50:17 Los_Plagas Best excuse ever. 2013-12-29 01:51:09 Espyo hehe 2013-12-29 01:51:15 Espyo I only have one week of classes left 2013-12-29 01:51:18 Espyo ...hopefully /forever/ 2013-12-29 01:51:24 Espyo well, one week + finals 2013-12-29 01:51:45 Los_Plagas Forever?! As in . . . done with college? 2013-12-29 01:52:50 Espyo forever, yes 2013-12-29 01:52:50 Espyo I only have 3 more subjects 2013-12-29 01:52:50 Espyo and they might end soon 2013-12-29 01:52:50 Espyo if I pass them all 2013-12-29 01:52:52 Espyo but these are the last 3 that got left behind 2013-12-29 01:52:56 Espyo and they got left behind for a reason 2013-12-29 01:53:13 Espyo I still couldn't finish them 2013-12-29 02:07:47 Los_Plagas Woah 2013-12-29 02:07:54 Los_Plagas I still have a long time to go before /that/ 2013-12-29 02:09:10 Espyo good luck 2013-12-29 02:10:02 Los_Plagas Thanks for that 2013-12-29 02:10:06 Los_Plagas But hopefully I won't need it. 2013-12-29 02:10:12 Los_Plagas Good luck on your upcoming finals. 2013-12-29 02:12:31 Los_Plagas Well, actually, I'll be done with college soon as well. 2013-12-29 02:12:44 Los_Plagas I won't be done with my /schooling/ for a while though. 2013-12-29 02:14:11 Los_Plagas So if you're talking about /just/ college, then yeah, I'll be done soon. But as for other forms of learning, such as medical school for instance, then . . . yeah, 2013-12-29 02:17:42 Espyo thanks 2013-12-29 02:17:50 Espyo I was talking about everything 2013-12-29 02:17:54 Espyo I won't be taking a master's degree 2013-12-29 02:17:59 Espyo I'm through with all of this 2013-12-29 02:20:09 Los_Plagas I wish it was that easy for the career path I'm choosing. 2013-12-29 02:21:35 Espyo what area are you on? 2013-12-29 02:24:38 Los_Plagas Area? Does area = fute field of profession? If you're talking about what I think you're talking about, my area would be medical. 2013-12-29 02:24:45 Espyo well, field 2013-12-29 02:24:48 Espyo yeah, "medical" 2013-12-29 02:24:56 Espyo uh, education terms are really hard to translate 2013-12-29 02:27:38 Los_Plagas Yeah, I know. Anyway, let's just treat the term "area" as a general synonym for "field. 2013-12-29 02:27:42 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-29 02:27:51 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 02:27:59 Los_Plagas Mind telling me your particular area? 2013-12-29 02:28:25 Espyo computer engineerin 2013-12-29 02:28:30 Espyo *engineering 2013-12-29 02:29:03 Los_Plagas I suppose your work with Testyo and the game engine should support that. 2013-12-29 02:29:19 Espyo yeah 2013-12-29 02:29:37 Espyo though sadly, about 0% of what I learned in college was actually helpful in making those 2013-12-29 02:29:39 Espyo rounded 2013-12-29 02:30:30 Los_Plagas That could mean one of two things: 1. Your college isn't actually that good, or 2. Testyo and your engine weren't related to what you learned in class. 2013-12-29 02:30:58 Los_Plagas Though I suppose those two exploits could be added to your resume for a job. 2013-12-29 02:32:39 Espyo a little of both 2013-12-29 02:32:45 Espyo the problem is they try to teach us a bit of everything 2013-12-29 02:32:56 Espyo ...which in turn makes us proficient at nothing 2013-12-29 02:33:59 Los_Plagas Hmm 2013-12-29 02:34:40 Los_Plagas Do you think that, if you didn't go to college, you wouldn't be as good at coding as you are now, even marginally; or do you think going to college was really only useful to get a reputation for job purposes? 2013-12-29 02:35:06 Espyo the latter, really 2013-12-29 02:35:15 Espyo I learned most of my coding skills in high school and by myself 2013-12-29 02:35:22 Espyo that's another thing about college, as well 2013-12-29 02:35:26 Espyo they teach us basic programming 2013-12-29 02:35:33 Espyo which I already knew from high school 2013-12-29 02:35:37 Espyo apparently they assume nobody knows 2013-12-29 02:35:45 Espyo but then they also jump into advanced programming 2013-12-29 02:35:48 Espyo it's kinda bizarre 2013-12-29 02:35:51 Espyo poorly made 2013-12-29 02:36:21 Los_Plagas At the same time, I feel kind of sorry for you and your education system yet also want to be you. 2013-12-29 02:36:42 Los_Plagas After all, it's easier to find instructions on how to code online than to find instructions on how to perform advanced surgical procedures. 2013-12-29 02:36:42 Espyo medical must be worse 2013-12-29 02:36:50 Espyo computer is close second, though 2013-12-29 02:36:53 Espyo having to learn /physics/ 2013-12-29 02:37:23 Espyo physics like heat transfer 2013-12-29 02:37:32 Espyo not the good kind of physics, like the ones that would help me make games 2013-12-29 02:38:12 Los_Plagas Heat transfer? Wouldn't that be used for actual computer /building/ rather than coding? Unless your course covers both. 2013-12-29 02:38:21 Espyo exactly 2013-12-29 02:38:25 Espyo and we learn 0% about computer building 2013-12-29 02:40:19 Los_Plagas That's odd. Is there an option to continue into physical computer building once you're finished with this course? The only reason I can imagine for that is that they're teaching you the basics and expect you to learn more in the more specific advanced courses. 2013-12-29 02:40:54 Espyo I'm not sure there is 2013-12-29 02:42:19 Los_Plagas In that case, you're basically learning stuff you're never going to use in real-life. 2013-12-29 02:42:36 Espyo yep 2013-12-29 02:42:37 Espyo sad 2013-12-29 02:42:44 Espyo and 2013-12-29 02:42:51 Espyo unsurprisingly 2013-12-29 02:42:54 Los_Plagas Not in the sense that you're just pretty sure you won't use it, but that you're seriously not going to use it because that's not what the course is for. 2013-12-29 02:42:58 Espyo that's one of the subjects I'm stuck on 2013-12-29 02:43:04 Espyo yeah, exactly 2013-12-29 02:43:45 Espyo if they wanted to teach me it "just because", why didn't they teach me geography, or literature? 2013-12-29 02:45:09 Los_Plagas I read this page: http://www.cambridge.org/us/engineering/author/nellisandklein/ 2013-12-29 02:45:20 Los_Plagas And still have no idea the point of learning heat engineering for coding. 2013-12-29 02:45:51 Los_Plagas And it might be talking about physical engineering anyway. 2013-12-29 02:47:06 Espyo no point whatsoever, really 2013-12-29 02:49:18 Los_Plagas I didn't really think there would be. 2013-12-29 02:49:53 Espyo yeah... 2013-12-29 02:50:14 Los_Plagas Personally, I'd feel horrible if I was in your situation, because I'd be torn between leaving and getting a head-start because I'm not learning any of the good stuff, or stay just for the credentials. 2013-12-29 02:50:59 Espyo that's exactly how I feel 2013-12-29 02:51:03 Los_Plagas Because, I mean, I still really hope you have a great future, but I wouldn't expect you to get a job coding at Apple with just a Bachelor's Degree, unless you're literally the best programmer in the world/ 2013-12-29 02:51:06 Espyo well, not so much any more, because, hey, it's the last week 2013-12-29 02:51:10 Espyo I won't stop now 2013-12-29 02:51:12 Espyo but if I fail... 2013-12-29 02:51:17 Espyo I'll seriously consider leaving 2013-12-29 02:52:11 Espyo yeah, I won't hope to get too too far without a bachelor's either 2013-12-29 02:52:27 Espyo I still hope to be big on a company that can qualify me based on my skills and achievements 2013-12-29 02:52:35 Espyo and not because I passed bloody physics 2013-12-29 02:54:21 Los_Plagas Unfortunately, most companies won't do that. 2013-12-29 02:55:22 Los_Plagas And, let's face it, they're kind of right, because the only way to test your skill is to pay you for a while, and if you suck (which you don't, but some people do) they've lost money. 2013-12-29 02:55:45 Espyo yeah 2013-12-29 02:59:29 Los_Plagas I don't know about the computer engineering education in America, but have you ever considered coming over here? 2013-12-29 02:59:55 Los_Plagas Some people say the US's way is triumph, but others . . . not so much. 2013-12-29 03:00:00 Espyo well, not to study 2013-12-29 03:01:25 Los_Plagas Hmm . . . I'm not so sure about the reliability of a /job/ at the US. Lately, they've been trying to put up a lot of systems to help with unemployment, but there's still a lot of jobless people. 2013-12-29 03:01:35 Espyo everybody's unemployed everywhere 2013-12-29 03:01:39 Espyo though over here, it's as bad as 17% 2013-12-29 03:02:23 Los_Plagas Yeah, the US is 7% 2013-12-29 03:02:28 Espyo wow 2013-12-29 03:02:35 Los_Plagas I know. 2013-12-29 03:02:44 Los_Plagas I think it might be because the US is one of the richer countries. 2013-12-29 03:03:00 Los_Plagas The richer countries probably have less unemployed people. 2013-12-29 03:03:11 Los_Plagas But the economy's suffering, and we still have the huge debt to China. 2013-12-29 03:03:12 Espyo mhm 2013-12-29 03:03:41 Los_Plagas Perhaps Japan. Unemployment rate: 4%. 2013-12-29 03:03:54 Espyo that's insane 2013-12-29 03:04:56 Los_Plagas Wait, wait wait: Qatar's the leader with 0.5 %. That's amazing. 2013-12-29 03:05:08 Espyo ... 2013-12-29 03:05:13 Espyo almost seems impossible 2013-12-29 03:05:23 Los_Plagas Though that might just be because it's tiny. 2013-12-29 03:05:42 Espyo true 2013-12-29 03:09:55 Los_Plagas Based on statistics alone, though, Sealand's probably the way to go. 2013-12-29 03:10:03 Los_Plagas Until you look up the word Sealand. 2013-12-29 03:10:11 Los_Plagas I'm pretty sure Sealand has 0%. 2013-12-29 03:12:42 Espyo heh 2013-12-29 03:13:09 Los_Plagas Sealand's either rich or small 2013-12-29 03:13:17 Los_Plagas It's small if you don't feel up to guessing 2013-12-29 03:13:29 Espyo heh, I imagined 2013-12-29 03:13:59 Los_Plagas Population of . . . *gasp* 27. 2013-12-29 03:15:36 Espyo ._. 2013-12-29 03:18:18 Los_Plagas Yep yep yep 2013-12-29 03:18:36 Los_Plagas And the strange thing is that they have rulers, too . . . kings and queens. . . . 2013-12-29 03:20:19 Espyo wow 2013-12-29 03:20:21 Espyo that is pretty weird 2013-12-29 03:30:29 Los_Plagas Dinner now. Be back in a bit. 2013-12-29 03:31:32 Espyo I have to go now anyway 2013-12-29 03:31:34 Espyo 3:30 here 2013-12-29 03:31:49 Espyo so bye, see you tomorrow 2013-12-29 03:32:29 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-29 03:32:32 <-- Testyo (Testyo@l24-248-52-895.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-29 03:35:35 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-29 03:58:47 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit 2013-12-29 04:05:16 --> Miles_ (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 04:06:24 <-- Miles (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 2013-12-29 04:09:21 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 04:09:40 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 04:32:47 --> Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 04:32:48 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-29 05:40:26 --> Ringtailed_Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 05:40:26 <-- Ringtailed-Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-29 06:04:59 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 06:05:04 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 09:52:23 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 12:20:36 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 12:20:37 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 12:24:52 --> Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 19:14:51 -- Scr7 is now known as Scr7brb 2013-12-29 19:23:54 -- Scr7brb is now known as Scr7 2013-12-29 19:32:04 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 20:02:29 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-29 20:13:39 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 20:13:39 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 20:15:12 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 20:15:35 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 20:15:35 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 20:16:16 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 20:17:01 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 20:17:01 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 20:18:03 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-29 20:18:42 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 20:18:42 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 20:21:49 Espyo Testyo: record Espyo 2013-12-29 20:21:50 Testyo What I know about you is: Recording since 07/08/2013. Last activity on 29/12/2013 12:24 (d/m/y GMT). Total number of words is 87552. Total number of lines is 13831. (6.33013 words/line.) Game victories: hangman: 2. number game: 0. scrambled word: 27. Last words were: #Testyo, on #Testyo. 2013-12-29 20:22:02 Espyo uh... 2013-12-29 20:22:03 Espyo Testyo: record Espyo 2013-12-29 20:22:03 Testyo What I know about you is: Recording since 07/08/2013. Last activity on 29/12/2013 20:22 (d/m/y GMT). Total number of words is 87556. Total number of lines is 13833. (6.3295 words/line.) Game victories: hangman: 2. number game: 0. scrambled word: 27. Last words were: uh..., on #pikipedia. 2013-12-29 20:22:07 Espyo Testyo: record Espyo 2013-12-29 20:22:07 Testyo What I know about you is: Recording since 07/08/2013. Last activity on 29/12/2013 20:22 (d/m/y GMT). Total number of words is 87559. Total number of lines is 13834. (6.32926 words/line.) Game victories: hangman: 2. number game: 0. scrambled word: 27. Last words were: Testyo: record Espyo, on #pikipedia. 2013-12-29 20:28:38 -- BetaMaster is now known as brBetaMaster 2013-12-29 20:30:59 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-29 20:44:49 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 20:44:49 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 20:46:16 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 21:13:18 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 21:13:18 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 21:20:09 --> Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 21:24:18 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-29 21:24:46 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 21:24:46 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 21:27:52 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 21:30:44 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 21:30:44 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 21:30:59 <-- Festivefreak (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: nwehehehe) 2013-12-29 21:34:24 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 21:34:43 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 21:34:43 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 21:35:57 Los_Plagas What's up with Testyo today? 2013-12-29 21:37:15 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-29 21:45:20 <-- Los_Plagas (Mibbit@11-857-94-08.lightspeed.yrlnca.sbcglobal.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-29 21:46:37 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 21:46:37 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 21:51:33 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-29 21:52:03 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 21:52:03 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 22:44:20 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: Later everyone!) 2013-12-29 23:22:51 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 23:22:51 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 23:31:02 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-29 23:41:58 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 23:41:58 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 23:43:18 -- brBetaMaster is now known as BetaMaster 2013-12-29 23:43:36 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 23:44:03 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 23:44:03 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 23:45:22 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-29 23:50:06 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 23:50:06 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-29 23:54:36 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-29 23:55:01 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-29 23:55:02 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-30 00:31:48 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 2013-12-30 00:59:04 --> Festivefreak (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 01:06:19 <-- Ringtailed_Fox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2013-12-30 01:07:26 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-30 01:07:51 --> Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 01:28:43 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-30 01:28:55 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: I'm going too) 2013-12-30 04:03:44 <-- BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 2013-12-30 04:30:14 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 07:15:31 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 2013-12-30 10:10:25 --> Miles (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 10:19:26 <-- Miles_ (Miles@h-47-72-682-095.hsd2.ga.comcast.net) has quit (*.net *.split) 2013-12-30 11:01:21 --> Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 12:17:07 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 12:17:07 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-30 12:22:25 --> Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 12:43:08 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 12:43:43 PikFan . 2013-12-30 12:43:59 Espyo hey 2013-12-30 12:44:04 Espyo I was thinking about you 2013-12-30 12:44:10 PikFan I'm on 3DS, so unsteady connection 2013-12-30 12:44:10 Espyo listen, I need to ask you something about P3 2013-12-30 12:44:19 Espyo https://www.facebook.com/ThatGuyFromPikmin2WhoEatsAnything/posts/530116287085469 2013-12-30 12:44:21 PikFan hmm? 2013-12-30 12:44:28 Espyo does that guy mean DWARF Bulborbs, or mature ones? 2013-12-30 12:44:51 PikFan if I click it, I'll leave... but okay 2013-12-30 12:44:59 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-30 12:46:00 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 12:46:33 PikFan hmmmmmm 2013-12-30 12:47:01 Espyo oh, could've said, I would've just copy-pasted then 2013-12-30 12:47:03 Espyo but meh 2013-12-30 12:47:14 PikFan well Nintendo decided to call Red Bulborbs just "Bulborbs" in this game 2013-12-30 12:47:22 PikFan well Nintendo decided to call Red Bulborbs just "Bulborbs" in this game 2013-12-30 12:47:24 Espyo hm 2013-12-30 12:47:32 Espyo (also you posted that twice) 2013-12-30 12:47:42 PikFan heh 2013-12-30 12:48:13 PikFan that guy was referring to swarming, right? 2013-12-30 12:48:38 Espyo ~yep 2013-12-30 12:48:41 Espyo *-~ 2013-12-30 12:49:08 PikFan then he was likely talking about the mature one 2013-12-30 12:49:49 PikFan and iirc Dwarf Red Bulborbs are called Dwarf Bulborbs 2013-12-30 12:50:13 Espyo right 2013-12-30 12:50:21 Espyo are there any hairy, or oranges, or etc.? 2013-12-30 12:50:31 PikFan anyway, I noticed something 2013-12-30 12:50:57 PikFan yeah, there're Oranges, but no Hairys 2013-12-30 12:51:02 Espyo ah 2013-12-30 12:51:45 PikFan so you can pluck Pikmin sprouts as soon as they hit the ground 2013-12-30 12:52:04 Espyo not sure how to feel about that 2013-12-30 12:52:10 Espyo but yeah, I've been thinking 2013-12-30 12:52:20 Espyo it's clear now that the P3 staff is different from the P2 one 2013-12-30 12:52:25 Espyo so many little things work differently 2013-12-30 12:52:29 Espyo and not necessarily for the best 2013-12-30 12:52:33 Espyo some are better, some are worse 2013-12-30 12:52:49 Espyo but overall, the only thing "Pikmin" about Pikmin 3 is the characters and the general concept 2013-12-30 12:53:01 Espyo gameplay-wise, P3 seems like it's so much different from the rest... 2013-12-30 12:53:16 PikFan yeah; you can't select Pikmin stages, or change the camera's zoom level 2013-12-30 12:54:41 PikFan obviously the staff didn't pay attention to the gameplay mechs in P2 2013-12-30 12:54:42 Espyo ugh 2013-12-30 12:54:59 Espyo or they figured they'd change things to their own accord, regardless of how the gameplay feels 2013-12-30 12:55:29 Espyo Miyamoto said that the Wii U's higher graphic capabilities allowed for the game to be fully zoomed out, and still understandable, something not really possible on P1/2 2013-12-30 12:55:41 Espyo so what does the staff interpret that as? 2013-12-30 12:55:49 Espyo "only have the most zoomed out zoom mode" 2013-12-30 12:55:56 Espyo laziness, in my opinion 2013-12-30 12:56:03 Espyo looks like they cut corners everywhere 2013-12-30 12:56:21 PikFan hmm 2013-12-30 12:56:58 PikFan maybe I should compare the credits of 2 and 3, and spot any differences 2013-12-30 12:58:29 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-30 12:58:43 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 12:59:35 PikFan 3DS is _so_ unreliable 2013-12-30 13:00:29 PikFan anyway, I still thought P3 was great, despite its bad controls 2013-12-30 13:01:22 PikFan and I've hardly used the GamePad to play 2013-12-30 13:01:52 PikFan the whistle button is in such a weird spot 2013-12-30 13:02:23 PikFan it's like... ZR or something 2013-12-30 13:03:28 PikFan either it's overly complicated or I just don't understand the controls on the GamePad yet 2013-12-30 13:04:08 Espyo hm 2013-12-30 13:04:19 Espyo anyway, in more upbeat news... 2013-12-30 13:04:38 Espyo www.pikminwiki.com/Subterranean_Complex say hello to the most well-detailed Subterranean Complex article in the world! 2013-12-30 13:04:46 Espyo wait, let me fix the link so it's clickable 2013-12-30 13:04:49 Espyo http://www.pikminwiki.com/Subterranean_Complex 2013-12-30 13:04:59 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-30 13:08:46 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 13:09:21 PikFan hehehehehehehehe 2013-12-30 13:09:35 PikFan wikia will be so envious 2013-12-30 13:10:39 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-30 13:10:51 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 13:11:25 PikFan gaaaaaaaaaaaaah 2013-12-30 13:11:52 PikFan anyway 2013-12-30 13:11:54 Espyo heh 2013-12-30 13:12:09 Espyo I even know exactly how many enemies spawn in dead ends and everything! 2013-12-30 13:12:42 PikFan so did you rewrite it, and add statistical + technical information? 2013-12-30 13:12:57 PikFan wow 2013-12-30 13:13:10 Espyo yep 2013-12-30 13:13:14 Espyo well, not so much a rewrite 2013-12-30 13:13:21 PikFan you've become omniscient, haven't you? 2013-12-30 13:13:22 Espyo I left the walkthrough bits mostly intact 2013-12-30 13:13:25 Espyo only fixed some typos 2013-12-30 13:13:29 Espyo in terms of Pikmin 2 cave data? yep 2013-12-30 13:13:40 Espyo I'm not the first one, though, but I AM going to add it all to the wiki 2013-12-30 13:13:42 Espyo and that's what matters 2013-12-30 13:14:10 PikFan right 2013-12-30 13:14:11 Espyo it takes like 10 minutes to fill in the info on a single sublevel, though... 2013-12-30 13:14:27 Espyo or it did, yesterday, while I was still trying to figure out why the "enemy max" didn't match, and stuff like that 2013-12-30 13:14:29 PikFan :s 2013-12-30 13:14:41 Espyo other than the enemy max, most other things seem to match up nicely 2013-12-30 13:14:52 Espyo so it's safe to assume the info in the game files matches reality 2013-12-30 13:14:54 PikFan I see 2013-12-30 13:14:56 Espyo got lunch, brb 2013-12-30 13:15:40 PikFan one thing I don't get: why are there so many tiles for sublevel 9? 2013-12-30 13:15:57 PikFan oh, ok 2013-12-30 13:16:41 Espyo (rice is still cooking >_>) 2013-12-30 13:16:50 Espyo it's what's defined in the game's files, really 2013-12-30 13:16:56 PikFan I need to sleep anyway -- it's 5:16 am 2013-12-30 13:16:58 Espyo in practice, only the main arena exists 2013-12-30 13:17:00 Espyo wow 2013-12-30 13:17:15 PikFan I see 2013-12-30 13:17:16 Espyo go then, before you flop dead heh 2013-12-30 13:17:21 Espyo hmm 2013-12-30 13:17:31 Espyo but I should point out the dead ends and corridors aren't used 2013-12-30 13:17:41 PikFan well, good night... or good afternoon 2013-12-30 13:17:44 Espyo night 2013-12-30 13:17:56 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-30 14:52:08 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 14:52:12 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 2013-12-30 15:04:53 --> RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 15:53:44 <-- Festivefreak (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has quit (Quit: nwehehehe) 2013-12-30 16:41:44 @J . 2013-12-30 16:41:58 Espyo hey 2013-12-30 16:42:57 Espyo so here's a tiny factoid I discovered 2013-12-30 16:42:59 Espyo Maybe, just maybe, sublevel 5 of the Hole of Beasts was meant to have a different song, as the line in the music config file for the 5th sublevel is copy-pasted and unchanged from the 4th. 2013-12-30 16:43:58 @J super-tiny 2013-12-30 16:44:23 Espyo mhm 2013-12-30 16:44:29 @J you mean it can leave it out and default to something else? 2013-12-30 16:45:11 Espyo you're asking if it's possible to omit the a sublevel's song on the config file and the game will use a default one? 2013-12-30 16:46:36 @J yeah 2013-12-30 16:46:43 Espyo nope, it's not the case 2013-12-30 16:46:45 @J otherwise how do you know it's copy/pasted? 2013-12-30 16:46:53 Espyo hehe, hang on 2013-12-30 16:47:49 Espyo http://pastebin.com/9nZgWkn6 2013-12-30 16:48:03 Espyo the Japanese there means "sublevel2 2013-12-30 16:48:05 Espyo *" 2013-12-30 16:49:37 @J I don't really see how that implies it was meant to have different music 2013-12-30 16:49:47 Espyo it doesn't 2013-12-30 16:49:54 Espyo hence the "Maybe, just maybe" 2013-12-30 16:50:03 @J but I don't see how it implies it at all 2013-12-30 16:50:13 Espyo Totaka (these files belong to him) was filing in the file, copy-pasting one line at a time 2013-12-30 16:50:33 Espyo and when he got to the last one, MAYBE he was gonna change it, but something could've happened and he forgot, leaving the unaltered copy-pasted line forever 2013-12-30 16:50:40 Espyo it's obvious it's copy-pasted because of the comment 2013-12-30 16:50:50 @J yes 2013-12-30 16:50:58 Espyo but if he were to finalize the decision that sublevel 5 would have that song, he would organize his file 2013-12-30 16:51:04 Espyo I mean, organize the comment 2013-12-30 16:51:06 @J but what would they do where the music was actually meant to be the same? 2013-12-30 16:51:13 @J they would also just copy/paste, right? 2013-12-30 16:51:19 Espyo yes, but fix the comment 2013-12-30 16:51:38 Espyo all other lines that are the same have the comment fixed for the appropriate sublevel 2013-12-30 16:52:04 Espyo http://pastebin.com/cGskNFJT 2013-12-30 16:53:11 @J oh, I see 2013-12-30 16:53:12 @J okay 2013-12-30 16:53:30 Espyo chances it's a mistake are low, but existen 2013-12-30 16:53:31 Espyo *t 2013-12-30 16:53:39 Espyo also, another thing I found out, you can even see on the latest pastebin 2013-12-30 16:53:59 Espyo one of the songs makes reference to glass-type caves... 2013-12-30 16:55:09 Espyo the music configuration files are really hard to understand 2013-12-30 16:55:20 Espyo but that "glass cave" song shares something with the rest sublevel song 2013-12-30 16:55:26 Espyo in that there's a file just for the two of them 2013-12-30 16:55:36 Espyo and supposedly, they're both meant to be streams, not MIDI 2013-12-30 17:25:04 @J (back later, maybe) 2013-12-30 17:29:20 Espyo mhm 2013-12-30 18:01:59 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 18:32:27 <-- Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 2013-12-30 18:33:24 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-30 18:44:20 --> Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 18:46:40 <-- Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has quit (Client Quit) 2013-12-30 18:46:45 --> Espyo (Mibbit@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 18:51:21 --> Prez (Mibbit@q193g081b.dip6.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 19:34:52 Prez "This wiki currently has 713 articles and is still growing! Do not be afraid chosen one for you can go hop in and edit! " 2013-12-30 19:34:54 Prez *cringe* 2013-12-30 20:14:06 -- BetaMaster is now known as MS-DOS 2013-12-30 20:16:51 Espyo quality > quantity 2013-12-30 20:17:01 Espyo wait 2013-12-30 20:17:04 Espyo >chosen one 2013-12-30 20:17:08 Espyo that's... not us, is it? 2013-12-30 20:19:44 --> Testyo (Testyo@z93-363-48-28.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 20:19:44 Testyo Hi everyone! 2013-12-30 20:19:45 Testyo Oh, Prez, you have a memo from Espyo, written on 28/12/2013 19:22 (GMT), saying: would you happen to know who owns the Pikipedia Facebook page? https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pikipedia/171251012917698. 2013-12-30 20:27:16 Espyo also Prez, delete this when you can http://www.pikminwiki.com/index.php?title=Ido1&rcid=31144 2013-12-30 20:34:47 Prez I have absolutely no idea. I don't even have a FB account 2013-12-30 20:35:52 Espyo oh well 2013-12-30 20:36:13 Espyo Los_Plagas seems to have sent Lord Raven a message on twitter asking if it's him 2013-12-30 20:36:21 Espyo because the edit that linked to the facebook page on the main page was made by him 2013-12-30 20:37:27 Prez huh. guess that would make sense. though I'm surprised he's bothering with an FB page when he doesn't even visit the wiki 2013-12-30 20:37:34 Espyo yeah 2013-12-30 20:37:48 Espyo anyway, I use facebook kinda often 2013-12-30 20:37:50 Prez AND considering he would probably get more out of linking to the old site 2013-12-30 20:37:52 Espyo visit my feed once a day 2013-12-30 20:37:58 Espyo so I was thinking of taking over the page 2013-12-30 20:38:01 Espyo give it new life 2013-12-30 20:38:11 Espyo hopefully this will be a way to give Pikipedia as a whole more activity 2013-12-30 20:38:26 Prez worth a try i guess 2013-12-30 20:38:52 Espyo anyway, PikFan got Pikmin 3 2013-12-30 20:38:58 Espyo in a few days he's gonna start adding some info 2013-12-30 20:41:50 Prez yeah I'm at home right now, can't add anything. I think i managed two enemies though before i left hahah 2013-12-30 20:41:52 Prez go me 2013-12-30 20:42:31 Espyo heh, it's ok 2013-12-30 20:42:33 Espyo slow and steady, etc. 2013-12-30 20:42:46 Prez nah I've just been lazy as hell 2013-12-30 20:43:14 Prez in pretty much every aspect of my life this last month 2013-12-30 20:43:59 Espyo meh, we all have lazy months 2013-12-30 20:44:28 Prez well I have to wait until next winter now before i can switch college topics. I'll probably just end up wasting away that time 2013-12-30 20:44:45 Prez so hoping to get SOMETHING done during that time 2013-12-30 20:45:40 Espyo right 2013-12-30 20:45:47 Espyo one whole year left 2013-12-30 20:46:08 Prez well, until like september 2013-12-30 20:46:23 Prez but yeah close enough to a full year 2013-12-30 20:46:33 Espyo oh, right 2013-12-30 20:49:06 Prez love what you're doing with the cave stuff by the way 2013-12-30 20:50:50 Espyo thanks 2013-12-30 20:50:56 Espyo turned out to be a lot better than what I had in mind 2013-12-30 20:51:02 Espyo it's super detailed without being filler 2013-12-30 20:51:11 Espyo and the cave units are actually easy to understand 2013-12-30 20:51:22 Espyo just wish there weren't so many incognitos, though 2013-12-30 20:51:30 Espyo like the max enemies attribute for a floor 2013-12-30 20:51:33 Espyo makes no sense whatsoever 2013-12-30 20:51:36 Espyo max caps too 2013-12-30 20:51:39 Espyo anyway, dinner 2013-12-30 20:51:43 Espyo brb 2013-12-30 21:05:56 Espyo and back 2013-12-30 21:06:17 Prez man that DLC stuff has been out for a while i think 2013-12-30 21:06:26 Prez i really need to buy a wireless router 2013-12-30 21:07:00 Espyo you really do 2013-12-30 21:07:03 Espyo it makes everything easier 2013-12-30 21:07:10 Prez it's 2014 soon and Nintendo still doesn't have consoles with Ethernet inlets, wonderful 2013-12-30 21:07:21 Espyo hehe 2013-12-30 21:08:25 Prez wow so funny story 2013-12-30 21:09:38 Prez a friend of mine started streaming on Twitch, and I watch the SpeedRunsLive guys all day and night, and figured I might give it a try too, worst case i played some games and have an HD card for the wiki 2013-12-30 21:10:32 Espyo I don't get that last bit 2013-12-30 21:10:37 Espyo also, I forgot to do this before: 2013-12-30 21:10:37 Prez So if I had to speedrun something it probably would be sonic 06, so I look up some runs and the first one is of AGDQ and guess who's sitting right next to the runner 2013-12-30 21:10:51 Espyo Testyo: memo PikFan http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/Pikmin_Wiki >Do not be afraid chosen one for you can go hop in and edit! 2013-12-30 21:10:52 Testyo Done. I saved a memo for PikFan saying: http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/Pikmin_Wiki >Do not be afraid chosen one for you can go hop in and edit!. 2013-12-30 21:11:01 Espyo Miles? 2013-12-30 21:11:13 Prez yep 2013-12-30 21:11:16 Espyo hehehe 2013-12-30 21:11:21 Espyo nobody is a stranger to Sonic 06 2013-12-30 21:12:09 Prez I kind of liked it a little bit actually, especially the parts with Silver 2013-12-30 21:12:27 Espyo I never played it, but from what I've seen... 2013-12-30 21:12:41 Espyo there's just no possible comment 2013-12-30 21:12:41 Prez It can be fun if you don't die all the time, but if you play it for the first... well, you'll die. a lot 2013-12-30 21:13:16 Prez I think there should still be a lot of bugs to be found that can be abused 2013-12-30 21:13:17 Espyo 06 sounds like one of those games I'd get JUST to have fun breaking it 2013-12-30 21:13:25 Espyo mhm 2013-12-30 21:18:07 Miles >_> 2013-12-30 21:18:51 Miles 06 will be great this year 2013-12-30 21:18:55 Miles Considering it's now 15 minutes long 2013-12-30 21:19:17 Espyo ah yes, DarkSpinesSonic found a new glitch 2013-12-30 21:19:26 Espyo you talk to someone who starts a mission and die at the same time 2013-12-30 21:19:47 Espyo then you start the mission outside of talking to the person 2013-12-30 21:19:49 Espyo complete it 2013-12-30 21:19:51 Espyo and boom, game complete 2013-12-30 21:20:18 Miles Too bad it's going to be Sonic 2013-12-30 21:20:22 Miles Silver is much better 2013-12-30 21:20:31 Espyo Silver can pull that glitch off faster, can't he? 2013-12-30 21:20:44 Miles Silver's ending is falling into a pit for 30 seconds 2013-12-30 21:20:46 Miles Die 2013-12-30 21:20:48 Miles Credits 2013-12-30 21:20:56 Miles I think Silver is a bit faster but not by much 2013-12-30 21:20:58 Espyo wow, I don't remember seeing that 2013-12-30 21:21:09 Espyo did DSS discover that trick too? 2013-12-30 21:21:42 Miles It's the same glitch 2013-12-30 21:21:58 Miles Just the end result involves falling into nothingness and dying 2013-12-30 21:22:11 Espyo oh 2013-12-30 21:22:38 Prez for someone who never played it you know a lot about it espyo 2013-12-30 21:22:56 Espyo hehe, I've seen two playthroughs of it 2013-12-30 21:23:09 Espyo and I'm subscribed to DSS, Paraxade, and a few others 2013-12-30 21:23:17 Espyo they occasionally post runs and glitches 2013-12-30 21:23:18 Prez ah 2013-12-30 21:23:48 Miles I played it about 2 years ago 2013-12-30 21:23:53 Miles It's certainly a thing 2013-12-30 21:24:44 Espyo 7:10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWgRzJzVOXA 2013-12-30 21:24:51 Espyo all I saw was the normal Silver method 2013-12-30 21:24:56 Espyo never seen him falling for 30 seconds 2013-12-30 21:25:05 Espyo I'll search on youtube 2013-12-30 21:25:53 Prez Think there's a difference between 360 and ps3? 2013-12-30 21:26:52 Espyo I think that glitch works in both 2013-12-30 21:26:55 Espyo it's in the description, maybe 2013-12-30 21:28:50 Miles http://www.twitch.tv/darkspinessonic/c/3073225 2013-12-30 21:29:59 Espyo ...the day twitch works on Firefox... 2013-12-30 21:30:40 Espyo even on Chrome it's taking a while 2013-12-30 21:32:39 Prez yeah, there's addons for that though, if you don't mind even more crap installed for making twitch bearable 2013-12-30 21:32:53 Espyo oh 2013-12-30 21:32:54 Espyo didn't know 2013-12-30 21:32:59 Espyo still, I'd rather open Chrome real quick 2013-12-30 21:44:50 Espyo pfffft 2013-12-30 21:44:54 Espyo Silver's version is the best 2013-12-30 22:03:57 <-- MS-DOS (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: reboot) 2013-12-30 22:06:17 --> BetaMaster (BetaMaster@c-521-44-23-901.hsd6.pa.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 22:11:12 <-- Prez (Mibbit@q193g081b.dip6.t-ipconnect.de) has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client) 2013-12-30 22:13:16 @J is it worth noting on the cave units page that some sublevel configs are such that some of the units they list go unused/ 2013-12-30 22:13:17 @J *? 2013-12-30 22:13:38 @J like, if they only allow 1 unit and some have gates 2013-12-30 22:15:46 Espyo mhm 2013-12-30 22:15:58 Espyo I was thinking that too 2013-12-30 22:16:03 Espyo it's on my ToDo in fact 2013-12-30 22:16:22 --> Festivefreak (NewYokuba@nxg-80-831-876-818.socal.res.rr.com) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 23:16:04 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-30 23:16:04 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-30 23:16:04 Testyo Oh, PikFan, you have a memo from Espyo, written on 30/12/2013 21:10 (GMT), saying: http://pikmin.wikia.com/wiki/Pikmin_Wiki >Do not be afraid chosen one for you can go hop in and edit!. 2013-12-30 23:16:39 @PikFan ...what 2013-12-30 23:16:46 Espyo do not be afraid... 2013-12-30 23:16:48 Espyo chosen one... 2013-12-30 23:16:53 Espyo these people are officially retarded 2013-12-30 23:17:19 Espyo Prez pointed it out 2013-12-30 23:17:23 Espyo and it took me a while to believe it 2013-12-30 23:17:58 @PikFan ...unbelievable 2013-12-30 23:18:11 @PikFan greedy monsters, that's what they are 2013-12-30 23:18:31 @PikFan their wiki is /full/ of bias 2013-12-30 23:18:44 Espyo that intro doesn't even make any /sense/ 2013-12-30 23:19:25 @PikFan it'd make more sense if they got rid of the "chosen one" part 2013-12-30 23:20:01 Espyo yeah!... 2013-12-30 23:20:17 @PikFan well, a minuscule bit more sense 2013-12-30 23:20:48 @PikFan actually it'd make more sense if they ditched it altogether 2013-12-30 23:23:45 @PikFan oh, about P3 2013-12-30 23:23:55 @PikFan remembered how you said there isn't a map? 2013-12-30 23:24:17 @PikFan that it's just the area viewed from above? 2013-12-30 23:24:37 Espyo yeah? 2013-12-30 23:24:55 @PikFan well, there is a map — it's on the GamePad 2013-12-30 23:25:01 Espyo radar-styled? 2013-12-30 23:25:08 @PikFan yeah, kinda 2013-12-30 23:25:14 @PikFan it's got icons and stuff 2013-12-30 23:25:19 Espyo ah 2013-12-30 23:25:44 @PikFan and the icons are realistic 2013-12-30 23:26:02 @PikFan i.e. they look like what they're representing 2013-12-30 23:26:51 Espyo neat 2013-12-30 23:29:29 @PikFan so when you get your hands on P3 you'll be able to get the radar data on the wiki 2013-12-30 23:31:37 Espyo yeah 2013-12-30 23:31:46 @PikFan oh, another thing 2013-12-30 23:31:49 Espyo well, I'll have to crop them 2013-12-30 23:31:59 @PikFan I've started taking statistical info from P3 2013-12-30 23:32:01 Espyo I have the P2 icons because Dolphin actually dumps the pure textures 2013-12-30 23:32:04 Espyo ah, good 2013-12-30 23:33:03 @PikFan and since I've already played through it /incompletely/ once, I should start to make articles 2013-12-30 23:33:15 Espyo yeah 2013-12-30 23:33:16 Espyo good luck 2013-12-30 23:33:23 @PikFan thanks 2013-12-30 23:33:51 @PikFan what about fruits that were treasure in P2? 2013-12-30 23:34:01 Espyo we'll just have both templates 2013-12-30 23:34:02 @PikFan what about fruits that were treasure in P2?? 2013-12-30 23:34:06 @PikFan ...oops 2013-12-30 23:34:10 Espyo treasure at the start of the article, fruit later 2013-12-30 23:34:33 @PikFan (have no idea how I wrote that twice) 2013-12-30 23:35:00 Espyo heh 2013-12-30 23:35:01 @PikFan (maybe the curse from the 3DS followed me here :s ) 2013-12-30 23:35:41 @PikFan so I should write a P3 section on already existing articles? 2013-12-30 23:35:46 Espyo yep 2013-12-30 23:35:49 @PikFan got it 2013-12-30 23:35:52 Espyo or a "as a fruit" section 2013-12-30 23:36:03 Espyo try to make it as complete as possible, of course 2013-12-30 23:36:11 Espyo exact location, how to get there, what to keep in mind before going, etc. 2013-12-30 23:36:16 @PikFan right 2013-12-30 23:36:19 Espyo also describe it and its real world counterpart 2013-12-30 23:36:25 Espyo if you don't know what it is, add a ToDo 2013-12-30 23:36:31 <-- Scr7 (Scr7@plyeqdwogtii.plus.com) has quit (Quit: yaus.) 2013-12-30 23:36:39 @PikFan yeah, I've been trying to figure out what kind of fruit each fruit is 2013-12-30 23:36:42 Espyo it's better to have 80 ToDos than having articles with missing info going unnoticed for years 2013-12-30 23:36:50 Espyo I'm not a fruit expert, so... 2013-12-30 23:36:52 Espyo J is, though 2013-12-30 23:36:57 @PikFan some are obvious, others are not 2013-12-30 23:37:01 @PikFan oh, but 2013-12-30 23:37:12 @PikFan my P3 guide says what kind of fruit the fruits are 2013-12-30 23:37:24 Espyo ah 2013-12-30 23:37:25 @PikFan so I'll be referring to the guide a lot, I'd imagine 2013-12-30 23:37:48 @PikFan well, not referring, but looking at the guide 2013-12-30 23:38:16 @PikFan also Brittany writes notes for the fruit 2013-12-30 23:38:29 Espyo ah yes 2013-12-30 23:38:32 Espyo remember to add those... 2013-12-30 23:38:34 Espyo somewhere...? 2013-12-30 23:38:37 Espyo ask J about how notes work 2013-12-30 23:38:40 @PikFan so we'll have to add a "Brittany's notes" to that template 2013-12-30 23:38:57 @PikFan I think I know how notes work, but I'll ask if I'm unsure 2013-12-30 23:40:50 Espyo right 2013-12-30 23:40:55 @PikFan so what should it be? should it be like "fruit" or "brittany" or something? 2013-12-30 23:40:57 Espyo what about the other 2 captains? don't they save notes? 2013-12-30 23:41:01 Espyo hmm 2013-12-30 23:41:02 @PikFan no 2013-12-30 23:41:07 Espyo probably britanny 2013-12-30 23:41:12 Espyo we have "louie" and such, right? 2013-12-30 23:41:17 @PikFan yeah 2013-12-30 23:41:31 @PikFan *brittany 2013-12-30 23:41:51 Espyo oops 2013-12-30 23:41:59 @PikFan hehe 2013-12-30 23:42:35 @PikFan hmm 2013-12-30 23:42:50 @PikFan are there any other templates I'll have to change in addition to this one? http://www.pikminwiki.com/Template:Notes 2013-12-30 23:44:26 Espyo don't think so 2013-12-30 23:44:32 Espyo remember to add P3 to the icons 2013-12-30 23:44:37 Espyo maybe write a text file with all these steps 2013-12-30 23:44:42 Espyo so you don't skip any of them on accident 2013-12-30 23:44:56 @PikFan ...oh, it's protected 2013-12-30 23:44:59 Espyo oh 2013-12-30 23:45:03 Espyo all the more reasons to ask J then 2013-12-30 23:45:27 @PikFan J, can you add a "brittany" notes to the notes template? 2013-12-30 23:45:49 @PikFan wait, is J on right now, or is he asleep 2013-12-30 23:46:38 @J ? 2013-12-30 23:46:47 @PikFan then you're awake 2013-12-30 23:47:15 @J you need to change template:metadata too 2013-12-30 23:47:47 @PikFan okay, so can you add a new... notes thingy to the notes 2013-12-30 23:47:52 @PikFan oh ok 2013-12-30 23:48:23 Espyo its 11 PM here 2013-12-30 23:48:41 @PikFan *it's 2013-12-30 23:49:11 Espyo the apostrophe didn't go through 2013-12-30 23:49:11 @PikFan I didn't know that 11 was possessive...? 2013-12-30 23:49:20 @PikFan ah, ok 2013-12-30 23:50:01 @J what are the notes called? 2013-12-30 23:50:08 @J I mean, is there an official name? 2013-12-30 23:50:12 @J title when you view them? 2013-12-30 23:50:40 @PikFan Espyo and I agreed on "brittany" 2013-12-30 23:51:05 Espyo isn't the cooking notes "louie"? 2013-12-30 23:51:14 @PikFan yeah 2013-12-30 23:51:22 Espyo so... "brittany" 2013-12-30 23:51:37 @PikFan and then the other thing should be "Brittany's Notes", or something 2013-12-30 23:52:19 @PikFan well, neither of you know how to view the notes 2013-12-30 23:52:20 @J 'or something'? 2013-12-30 23:52:30 @J that's the part I was asking about, the heading displayed on the page 2013-12-30 23:52:36 @PikFan oh 2013-12-30 23:52:48 Espyo if there is none, I say "Brittany's Notes" works fine 2013-12-30 23:53:48 @PikFan if I could edit it then it'd be much easier 2013-12-30 23:54:20 @PikFan kind of hard to explain because I don't know the terms for these kinds of things 2013-12-30 23:54:47 @J I'm not sure what you're saying 2013-12-30 23:54:55 @J all I'm asking is what they're called in-game 2013-12-30 23:55:03 Espyo the title of the notes section on the article, right? 2013-12-30 23:55:06 @J if they don't have a name, we'll use 'Brittany's notes' 2013-12-30 23:55:14 @PikFan let me check 2013-12-31 00:05:03 @PikFan well 2013-12-31 00:05:25 @PikFan on the GamePad, there's an icon with a fruit on if 2013-12-31 00:05:57 @PikFan if you press that, it takes you to a screen called "Fruit File", with icons of all the fruit you've collected up to this point 2013-12-31 00:06:57 @PikFan if you click on a fruit, it shows the name of the fruit, how many of those fruits you've collected, how much juice it's worth, how many Pikmin are needed to carry, and Brittany's notes 2013-12-31 00:07:12 Espyo hmm 2013-12-31 00:09:08 @PikFan so should we call it "Brittany's Fruit File", or "Brittany's notes"? 2013-12-31 00:10:37 @J fruit file seems to be more than just the notes, so I'll use the latter 2013-12-31 00:10:44 @J we can easily change it later, anyway 2013-12-31 00:11:00 @PikFan okay 2013-12-31 00:11:14 @J should work now 2013-12-31 00:19:43 @J got to go, bye 2013-12-31 00:20:00 @PikFan bye 2013-12-31 00:20:04 @PikFan and thank you 2013-12-31 00:20:19 Espyo bye 2013-12-31 00:27:45 @PikFan http://www.pikminwiki.com/Sunseed_Berry 2013-12-31 00:27:59 @PikFan ugh, it looks so... messy 2013-12-31 00:28:44 Espyo more like /broken/ 2013-12-31 00:28:55 Espyo wait, never mind 2013-12-31 00:29:00 Espyo put the P2 infobox on the start of the article 2013-12-31 00:29:56 @PikFan yeah 2013-12-31 00:30:12 @PikFan there's that ugly white space at the top 2013-12-31 00:30:26 @PikFan going to fix that 2013-12-31 00:30:54 @PikFan ...uh-oh 2013-12-31 00:32:06 @PikFan on the section headers for Pikmin 2 and Pikmin 3, the game icons cover the Edit button 2013-12-31 00:32:51 @PikFan and tbh, I don't think they need to be there, since there are already game icons at the top 2013-12-31 00:34:04 Espyo hm 2013-12-31 00:34:09 Espyo yeah... 2013-12-31 00:34:16 Espyo J needs to rewrite the game icon code 2013-12-31 00:34:58 @PikFan for now I'll put both infoboxes above the headers 2013-12-31 00:35:15 @PikFan ...or not 2013-12-31 00:35:20 @PikFan hmmmmmmm 2013-12-31 00:35:26 Espyo ignore the icons for now 2013-12-31 00:58:43 @PikFan just finished adding the info 2013-12-31 01:03:22 Espyo yeah, I see 2013-12-31 01:03:28 Espyo one down, hundreds more to go 2013-12-31 01:03:41 @PikFan no 2013-12-31 01:03:51 @PikFan there's not even a hundred types of fruit 2013-12-31 01:04:08 @PikFan I'm not going to state how many types there are though 2013-12-31 01:04:16 @PikFan because spoilers 2013-12-31 01:04:54 Espyo I meant everything 2013-12-31 01:04:56 Espyo enemies, areas, etc. 2013-12-31 01:05:03 Espyo probably 20 2013-12-31 01:05:13 Espyo anyway, is it really called the Sunseed Berry in P3 as well? 2013-12-31 01:05:14 @PikFan oh 2013-12-31 01:05:20 @PikFan yep 2013-12-31 01:05:44 @PikFan let's see... the Cupid's Grenade and the Disguised Delicacy return as well 2013-12-31 01:06:12 Espyo ah 2013-12-31 01:06:47 @PikFan as does the Insect Condo and Citrus Lump 2013-12-31 01:14:10 Espyo Miles: does SDA have a board where it's possible to discuss submitted runs? 2013-12-31 01:14:36 Espyo 'cause I'm watching the latest Lion King (SNES) run, and it looks to me like the runner doesn't use a shortcut 2013-12-31 01:14:53 Espyo maybe I'm remembering wrong and that path isn't a shortcut, or maybe it's just absent altogether in the SNES version 2013-12-31 01:14:58 Miles Search Older Consoles for a Lion King thread 2013-12-31 01:15:00 Espyo but I'd like to point it out to the runner somehow 2013-12-31 01:15:10 Espyo right, thanks 2013-12-31 01:21:00 Espyo well, now I needed to create an account just to point that out 2013-12-31 01:21:01 Espyo ...nuts 2013-12-31 01:21:23 Espyo hm, I'll try checking if the shortcut exists on SNES tomorrow before I jump to any conclusions 2013-12-31 01:30:46 @PikFan Espyo, remember how that one guy came to #Testyo and you told me to ignore him? 2013-12-31 01:30:58 Espyo yeah, I banned him 2013-12-31 01:30:59 Espyo I... think 2013-12-31 01:31:10 @PikFan he's wreaking havoc in #mwchat 2013-12-31 01:31:14 Espyo eesh 2013-12-31 01:31:21 Espyo I thought he was banned from #mwchat 2013-12-31 01:31:23 Espyo TVTrash, was it? 2013-12-31 01:31:28 @PikFan mhm 2013-12-31 01:31:34 @PikFan yeah, his ban expired 2013-12-31 01:31:36 @PikFan 17:19 TVTrash T 2013-12-31 01:31:38 Espyo ... 2013-12-31 01:31:47 @PikFan 17:19 TVTrash F 2013-12-31 01:31:57 @PikFan 17:19 TVTrash P 2013-12-31 01:32:10 Espyo I know it stirs up rage, and that's what's fun to him 2013-12-31 01:32:11 @PikFan 17:20 TVTrash you suck' 2013-12-31 01:32:17 Espyo but come on, how sad do you have to be to do that all day 2013-12-31 01:32:47 @PikFan there's something very wrong with him, because he said this 2013-12-31 01:32:55 @PikFan 23:18 TVTrash I wish kids shold be allowed to use E-cigs 2013-12-31 01:33:10 Espyo yeah, he's just trying to evoke responses 2013-12-31 01:33:17 Espyo that's why I told you to ignore him last time 2013-12-31 01:34:17 @PikFan I see 2013-12-31 01:34:25 Espyo he quickly lost interest 2013-12-31 01:34:30 Espyo on #mwchat on the other hand, he keeps going 2013-12-31 01:34:32 Espyo he's having fun 2013-12-31 01:34:36 Espyo also why isn't nobody banning him? 2013-12-31 01:34:40 @PikFan also I checked #Testyo's AKICK list; he isn't in there 2013-12-31 01:34:45 @PikFan well an op warned him 2013-12-31 01:34:48 Espyo I mean, the #mwchat mods are ban-happy 2013-12-31 01:34:55 Espyo ... 2013-12-31 01:35:01 Espyo a warning comes in the form of a kick 2013-12-31 01:35:07 Espyo and if he does the same, there's no need to hesitate 2013-12-31 01:35:12 Espyo they ban people for the pettiest of things 2013-12-31 01:35:18 @PikFan no, it was a verbal warning 2013-12-31 01:35:25 @PikFan here, read for yourself 2013-12-31 01:35:30 @PikFan http://mibpaste.com/POKKI3 2013-12-31 01:35:44 Espyo but if it's a proven spammer, who's been banned before, and is showing himself to spam again, they don't ban him? 2013-12-31 01:35:51 Espyo ...did a spider just land near my ear 2013-12-31 01:36:12 @PikFan ...? 2013-12-31 01:36:18 Espyo I felt and heard something 2013-12-31 01:36:22 Espyo shook it off, landed on my chair 2013-12-31 01:36:31 @PikFan what was it 2013-12-31 01:36:36 Espyo didn't understand its shape, but it was squishable 2013-12-31 01:36:46 <-- RingtailedFox (Ringtailed@p57-35-8-400.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving) 2013-12-31 01:36:47 Espyo anyway, I meant that a warning SHOULD come in the form of a kick 2013-12-31 01:36:49 Espyo that's norm in IRC 2013-12-31 01:36:54 Espyo if someone needs a warning, kick them 2013-12-31 01:36:58 Espyo that should make them listen 2013-12-31 01:36:59 @PikFan oh 2013-12-31 01:37:01 @PikFan I see 2013-12-31 01:37:04 Espyo if they keep going, ban them 2013-12-31 01:37:20 Espyo this is an IRC ban, not a death penalty, no need to think so much about banning 2013-12-31 01:37:31 Espyo SPECIALLY when they know he's just there to cause chaos 2013-12-31 01:37:35 @PikFan ...now he 2013-12-31 01:37:43 @PikFan now he's abusing colors 2013-12-31 01:38:06 Espyo all the more reasons for me to consider the #mwchat mods idiots 2013-12-31 01:38:07 Espyo good grief 2013-12-31 01:38:09 @PikFan he keeps using white despite being told not to 2013-12-31 01:39:05 @PikFan 17:38 Anton{Politoed} it would be great if you just settled on a color 2013-12-31 01:39:15 @PikFan (he switched to another color) 2013-12-31 01:41:37 Espyo just BAN HIM already! 2013-12-31 01:41:38 Espyo gaah 2013-12-31 01:41:46 Espyo they're making me rage more than TVTrash ever could alone! 2013-12-31 01:42:03 @PikFan you would make a great op 2013-12-31 01:42:16 <-- PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has quit (Quit: sleep) 2013-12-31 01:42:26 Espyo it's just a matter of banning people who obviously need a ban 2013-12-31 01:42:29 --> PikFan (Mibbit@b-59-471-433-464.hsd9.or.comcast.net) has joined #pikipedia 2013-12-31 01:42:29 -- Mode #pikipedia [+o PikFan] by ChanServ 2013-12-31 01:42:35 Espyo ? 2013-12-31 01:42:35 @PikFan ......... 2013-12-31 01:42:40 @PikFan wrong button 2013-12-31 01:42:42 Espyo heh 2013-12-31 01:42:47 Espyo 01:42 Espyo it's just a matter of banning people who obviously need a ban 2013-12-31 01:42:51 @PikFan I meant to click Pastebin 2013-12-31 01:43:47 @PikFan well great, I've attracted the attention of tvtrash 2013-12-31 01:44:18 @PikFan anyway 2013-12-31 01:44:33 @PikFan http://mibpaste.com/KB4czk 2013-12-31 01:45:29 BetaMaster such a kind young fellow 2013-12-31 01:52:26 Espyo going to bed now